Re: Re: don't know what to do about school and excessive talking

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What is cbt ?

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On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:34 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

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> She has been on Prozac for almost 3 months and Vyvanse for almost 5 years.

, does the Risperidone help as much as Prozac did? Her psychiatrist

mentioned taking her off Prozac once we get further in her exposure therapy. She

hasn't actually had exposure yet. She has been mostly discussing her bad

thoughts because the bad thoughts were the biggest component for her. She plans

to start exposure next week.

>

> I posted the earlier message prior to her CBT appointment. When I got there I

talked to the psychiatrist about it. Right now, she can not pinpoint if the

talking is due to the prozac, the ADHD, amped-up anxiety, or if it just her

misbehaving.

>

> So I made an appointment with the teachers for a parent-teacher conference

tomorrow to discuss the issues in detail and I am going to go back next week and

talk to the psychiatrist about it. She feels like if we have more input from the

teachers she might know if she needs to adjust her medication.

>

> Hopefully, if I can talk to the teachers in person and fully explain her

situation, it will help them to understand a little more. I might ask them to

put her chair by the teachers desk also.

>

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> > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday. She is

also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for ADHD.

> > >

> > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her OCD.

HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > >

> > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has escalated

in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are complaining. He

said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told him that I don't

know either.

> > >

> > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist today

for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds. I

put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the psychiatrist

about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but I don't want

her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch 22.

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I thought they were two different things anyone have any tips on homework and

erasing and ways to keep sane during that process ?

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On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:18 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

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> cbt is cognitive behavior therapy (other people call it exposure and response

therapy or ert) basically the same thing.

>

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> > > > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday. She

is also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for ADHD.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her

OCD. HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > > > >

> > > > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has

escalated in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are

complaining. He said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told

him that I don't know either.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist

today for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds.

I put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the

psychiatrist about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but

I don't want her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch

22.

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[Guest guest]

How fast do u move into exposure therapy once u find a psychologist ? I feel

like that process needs to speed up? Is there any harm

In moving too slow or fast? If so which one is worse ?

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On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:34 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

>

> She has been on Prozac for almost 3 months and Vyvanse for almost 5 years.

, does the Risperidone help as much as Prozac did? Her psychiatrist

mentioned taking her off Prozac once we get further in her exposure therapy. She

hasn't actually had exposure yet. She has been mostly discussing her bad

thoughts because the bad thoughts were the biggest component for her. She plans

to start exposure next week.

>

> I posted the earlier message prior to her CBT appointment. When I got there I

talked to the psychiatrist about it. Right now, she can not pinpoint if the

talking is due to the prozac, the ADHD, amped-up anxiety, or if it just her

misbehaving.

>

> So I made an appointment with the teachers for a parent-teacher conference

tomorrow to discuss the issues in detail and I am going to go back next week and

talk to the psychiatrist about it. She feels like if we have more input from the

teachers she might know if she needs to adjust her medication.

>

> Hopefully, if I can talk to the teachers in person and fully explain her

situation, it will help them to understand a little more. I might ask them to

put her chair by the teachers desk also.

>

>

> > >

> > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday. She is

also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for ADHD.

> > >

> > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her OCD.

HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > >

> > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has escalated

in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are complaining. He

said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told him that I don't

know either.

> > >

> > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist today

for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds. I

put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the psychiatrist

about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but I don't want

her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch 22.

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son 14,said when he had that erasing problem to stop + look at it talk to

himself logically and move on. How old is your child?

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Re: Re: don't know what to do about school and

excessive talking

I thought they were two different things anyone have any tips on homework and

erasing and ways to keep sane during that process ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:18 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

>

> cbt is cognitive behavior therapy (other people call it exposure and response

therapy or ert) basically the same thing.

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday. She

is also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for ADHD.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her

OCD. HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > > > >

> > > > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has

escalated in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are

complaining. He said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told

him that I don't know either.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist

today for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds.

I put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the

psychiatrist about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but

I don't want her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch

22.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 6 yrs old it has been so hard to watch I can't move her along no

matter what I try

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> My son 14,said when he had that erasing problem to stop + look at it talk to

himself logically and move on. How old is your child?

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Re: don't know what to do about school and

> excessive talking

>

> I thought they were two different things anyone have any tips on homework and

erasing and ways to keep sane during that process ?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:18 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

>

> >

> > cbt is cognitive behavior therapy (other people call it exposure and

response therapy or ert) basically the same thing.

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday.

She is also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for

ADHD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her

OCD. HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has

escalated in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are

complaining. He said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told

him that I don't know either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist

today for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds.

I put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the

psychiatrist about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but

I don't want her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch

22.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

How does he talk logic to it? Help!

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> My son 14,said when he had that erasing problem to stop + look at it talk to

himself logically and move on. How old is your child?

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Re: don't know what to do about school and

> excessive talking

>

> I thought they were two different things anyone have any tips on homework and

erasing and ways to keep sane during that process ?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:18 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

>

> >

> > cbt is cognitive behavior therapy (other people call it exposure and

response therapy or ert) basically the same thing.

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday.

She is also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for

ADHD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her

OCD. HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has

escalated in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are

complaining. He said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told

him that I don't know either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist

today for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds.

I put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the

psychiatrist about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but

I don't want her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch

22.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Anyone else have suggestions or tools to

Use with 6 yr old and erasing ?

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> My son 14,said when he had that erasing problem to stop + look at it talk to

himself logically and move on. How old is your child?

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Re: don't know what to do about school and

> excessive talking

>

> I thought they were two different things anyone have any tips on homework and

erasing and ways to keep sane during that process ?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:18 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

>

> >

> > cbt is cognitive behavior therapy (other people call it exposure and

response therapy or ert) basically the same thing.

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday.

She is also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for

ADHD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her

OCD. HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has

escalated in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are

complaining. He said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told

him that I don't know either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist

today for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds.

I put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the

psychiatrist about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but

I don't want her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch

22.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Respiridone is a heavy duty medication with significant and possibly serious

side effects. It is associated with significant weight gain. It is actually an

atypical antipsychotic. Dr. Jenike who is head of the OCFoundations Scientific

Advisory Board has said that it can actually make OCD worse when given alone

without an OCD med like one of the SSRI's. Not all OCD meds are activating.

You might want to seek a consult with a psychiatrist/psychopharmacologist who is

very experienced with treating childhood OCD.

Re: don't know what to do about school and excessive

talking

I'm been following this group for the past few months but wanted to respond to

your post because we just went through the exact same thing. My 10 dd has OCD

and ADHD and is currently in CBT (which has been very effective). Not too long

ago, we started her on Prozac and within a week or two her ADHD was out of

control. She currently takes 10mg of Focalin XR for her ADHD. I couldn't take

it at home and the teachers couldn't take it at school. Her psychiatrist said

that it had activated her and prescribed Risperidone to counteract the Prozac

which it did almost immediately. So now we are using the Risperidone instead of

the Prozac.

>

> My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday. She is

also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for ADHD.

>

> Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her OCD.

HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

>

> Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has escalated in

the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are complaining. He

said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told him that I

don't know either.

>

> I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist today for

the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds. I put in

a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the psychiatrist about

it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but I don't want her

to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch 22.

>

[Guest guest]

I think age was the factor my son was 12 at the time. We would also walk away,

take a break. Maybe in her handwtiting at a good time have her write out on

index cards 1 per card alphabet + numbers 1-10 and if she thinks these are

exceptable she can use them to compare to her work,hence not erase.

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Re: Re: don't know what to do about school and

> excessive talking

>

> I thought they were two different things anyone have any tips on homework and

erasing and ways to keep sane during that process ?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:18 PM, " melissaandamy "

wrote:

>

> >

> > cbt is cognitive behavior therapy (other people call it exposure and

response therapy or ert) basically the same thing.

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My 12 year old dd is currently in CBT. We are going every Tuesday.

She is also on Prozac 10mg. Along with the prozac, she takes Vyvanse 30mg for

ADHD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since she has been on Prozac it has helped her tremendously with her

OCD. HOWEVER, her ADHD seems to be getting out of control.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Her teacher called me today complaining. He said her talking has

escalated in the past two weeks to the point that all of her teachers are

complaining. He said he doesn't know how much of this is in her control. I told

him that I don't know either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know what to do or who to call. We go to her psychiatrist

today for the CBT, but her pediatrician is the one who prescribes her ADHD meds.

I put in a call to the pediatrician, but I was thinking of asking the

psychiatrist about it today. I don't want to make things worse with the OCD, but

I don't want her to continue getting in trouble at school. This is such a catch

22.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Chris!! Any feedback helps. I'll try it:)

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> At that age even without OCD, they can want it to look perfect when they

right. Went through that with my non-OCD sons also. As for the erasing, is she

getting in tears over it all? Can you tell her only 1 erase for any letter?

>

> I actually didn't find a " cure " for this with my other sons, just encouraged

them that it didn't have to be perfect, just erase a letter once, they were

doing their best.... Luckily they got past it at some point. Wish I had a

solution for you. Limiting the number of times she can erase a letter (only one

more try...) might work, worth a try!

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> > > My son 14,said when he had that erasing problem to stop + look at it talk

to himself logically and move on. How old is your child?

> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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