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Thanks so much, and everyone. I've only known you all for a short time,

but I feel like it's been forever. Don't know what I would have done or if I

would have survived long enough to get him to 's without you all, you've

been lifesavers!!!!

Most likely we will do an " intervention " type situation to get him there, the

more I think about it the more I'm leaning towards doing it the day we are

planning to leave. His behavior is so unpredictable right now that I don't want

to take any chances by doing it even the day before.

:)

> HOORAY, HOORAY!!! Hang in there with getting him there. It will all be worth

it. And some day, he'll thank you!

>

> ((hugs))

>

>

>

> >

> > OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked! I am

so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

> >

> > Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as he

does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely freak out

big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i can't even imagine

how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but somehow we'll do it.

> >

> > I'll keep you all posted.....

> > :)

> >

>

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SO happy for you!  Is there any way he can take a tranquilizer or something to

that effect on the day of travel?  Wow, this is such wonderful news!!

in WA

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Subject: Re: Re: Just heard from :)!!!!

Thanks so much, and everyone. I've only known you all for a short time,

but I feel like it's been forever. Don't know what I would have done or if I

would have survived long enough to get him to 's without you all, you've

been lifesavers!!!!

Most likely we will do an " intervention " type situation to get him there, the

more I think about it the more I'm leaning towards doing it the day we are

planning to leave. His behavior is so unpredictable right now that I don't want

to take any chances by doing it even the day before.

:)

> HOORAY, HOORAY!!! Hang in there with getting him there. It will all be worth

it. And some day, he'll thank you!

>

> ((hugs))

>

>

>

> >

> > OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked! I am

so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

> >

> > Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as he

does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely freak out

big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i can't even imagine

how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but somehow we'll do it.

> >

> > I'll keep you all posted.....

> > :)

> >

>

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Great news!!! Welcome to Wisconsin, home of the cheese heads, Green Bay

Packers and " you bet " !!! We are having a warm spell, so you are in luck.

> **

>

>

> SO happy for you! Is there any way he can take a tranquilizer or

> something to that effect on the day of travel? Wow, this is such wonderful

> news!!

> in WA

>

>

>

> To:

> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:37 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Just heard from :)!!!!

>

>

> Thanks so much, and everyone. I've only known you all for a short

> time, but I feel like it's been forever. Don't know what I would have done

> or if I would have survived long enough to get him to 's without you

> all, you've been lifesavers!!!!

>

> Most likely we will do an " intervention " type situation to get him there,

> the more I think about it the more I'm leaning towards doing it the day we

> are planning to leave. His behavior is so unpredictable right now that I

> don't want to take any chances by doing it even the day before.

>

> :)

>

> > HOORAY, HOORAY!!! Hang in there with getting him there. It will all be

> worth it. And some day, he'll thank you!

> >

> > ((hugs))

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

> Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked!

> I am so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

> > >

> > > Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as

> he does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely

> freak out big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i

> can't even imagine how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but

> somehow we'll do it.

> > >

> > > I'll keep you all posted.....

> > > :)

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

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Thanks so much, ! Great to hear about the warm spell.

And thanks also, ! Yes, definitely planning to give him some ativan or

anti-anxiety meds the day of travel.

> Great news!!! Welcome to Wisconsin, home of the cheese heads, Green Bay

> Packers and " you bet " !!! We are having a warm spell, so you are in luck.

>

>

>

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> SO happy for you! Is there any way he can take a tranquilizer or

>> something to that effect on the day of travel? Wow, this is such wonderful

>> news!!

>> in WA

>>

>>

>>

>> To:

>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:37 AM

>> Subject: Re: Re: Just heard from :)!!!!

>>

>>

>> Thanks so much, and everyone. I've only known you all for a short

>> time, but I feel like it's been forever. Don't know what I would have done

>> or if I would have survived long enough to get him to 's without you

>> all, you've been lifesavers!!!!

>>

>> Most likely we will do an " intervention " type situation to get him there,

>> the more I think about it the more I'm leaning towards doing it the day we

>> are planning to leave. His behavior is so unpredictable right now that I

>> don't want to take any chances by doing it even the day before.

>>

>> :)

>>

>>> HOORAY, HOORAY!!! Hang in there with getting him there. It will all be

>> worth it. And some day, he'll thank you!

>>>

>>> ((hugs))

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

>> Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked!

>> I am so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

>>>>

>>>> Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as

>> he does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely

>> freak out big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i

>> can't even imagine how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but

>> somehow we'll do it.

>>>>

>>>> I'll keep you all posted.....

>>>> :)

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

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Thanks, . I was just sitting here thinking that everything happens for a

reason. I realized that had 's admitted my son at the 10-week mark, as they

originally estimated, then the behaviors that have come out since then may not

have emerged at that point, and therefore he would have presented much

differently upon being admitted. The difference from 2 months ago to now is

astounding! While it's been beyond a nightmare to deal with, I really think this

all played out the way it did for a reason.

> There is now light at the end of the tunnel!

>

>

> >

> > OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked! I am

so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

> >

> > Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as he

does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely freak out

big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i can't even imagine

how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but somehow we'll do it.

> >

> > I'll keep you all posted.....

> > :)

> >

>

>

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,

Have you typed out what you want the people at to know? I'm sure you'll

end up telling the story to various people, but things can get lost in the

telling. Maybe you've had to fill out an account of your son's history and his

increasingly alarming behaviors. The staff might put more emphasis on

interviewing your son, since he's an older kid. If you want the situation

presented accurately from your perspective, I'd recommend typing it out and

making copies so you can give a copy to whichever staff members you feel should

see it. Maybe a brief summary and then more details under bolded headings for

easy reading.

When my son was hospitalized 3 years ago, I borrowed more and more paper from

the admissions desk so I could write out what I wanted them to know. I tried to

use my best handwriting, but it sure would have been better typed.

And speaking of my son's hospitalization 3 years ago, some encouragement for

you: I could never have imagined then that he'd be in college now. When he

started college in this past fall, he'd call me almost daily for OCD

reassurance. He has continued weekly phone sessions with his CBT-ERP

psychologist. Last month, he went 14 days in a row without calling me in

distress. Then a relatively brief distress call, and that was 10 days ago!

As I think I recommended to you before, try not to figure out when and how he'll

get better--that can be way too discouraging and overwhelming (which serves no

one). Just keep taking the leaps of faith that he will get better even if you

don't know when or how.

> Thanks, . I was just sitting here thinking that everything happens for a

reason. I realized that had 's admitted my son at the 10-week mark, as they

originally estimated, then the behaviors that have come out since then may not

have emerged at that point, and therefore he would have presented much

differently upon being admitted. The difference from 2 months ago to now is

astounding! While it's been beyond a nightmare to deal with, I really think this

all played out the way it did for a reason.

>

>

>

>> There is now light at the end of the tunnel!

>>

>>

>>>

>>> OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked! I am

so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

>>>

>>> Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as he

does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely freak out

big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i can't even imagine

how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but somehow we'll do it.

>>>

>>> I'll keep you all posted.....

>>> :)

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

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Thanks so much, . That is wonderful news on your son's progress, so glad to

hear that!

I actually do have everything typed out regarding my son's history, and since

December I've been keeping an almost daily log of everything going on with him,

so I will pull things from that and organize it into something they can glance

at to get information. I'd be in MAJOR trouble if they relied on talking to my

son to get information as not only does he not think there is much wrong, but,

for example, when I held up a glass that he had peed in and left on the kitchen

counter, he looked right at it and repeatedly insisted it was water!

:)

> ,

>

> Have you typed out what you want the people at to know? I'm sure you'll

end up telling the story to various people, but things can get lost in the

telling. Maybe you've had to fill out an account of your son's history and his

increasingly alarming behaviors. The staff might put more emphasis on

interviewing your son, since he's an older kid. If you want the situation

presented accurately from your perspective, I'd recommend typing it out and

making copies so you can give a copy to whichever staff members you feel should

see it. Maybe a brief summary and then more details under bolded headings for

easy reading.

>

> When my son was hospitalized 3 years ago, I borrowed more and more paper from

the admissions desk so I could write out what I wanted them to know. I tried to

use my best handwriting, but it sure would have been better typed.

>

> And speaking of my son's hospitalization 3 years ago, some encouragement for

you: I could never have imagined then that he'd be in college now. When he

started college in this past fall, he'd call me almost daily for OCD

reassurance. He has continued weekly phone sessions with his CBT-ERP

psychologist. Last month, he went 14 days in a row without calling me in

distress. Then a relatively brief distress call, and that was 10 days ago!

>

> As I think I recommended to you before, try not to figure out when and how

he'll get better--that can be way too discouraging and overwhelming (which

serves no one). Just keep taking the leaps of faith that he will get better even

if you don't know when or how.

>

>

>

>

>

> > Thanks, . I was just sitting here thinking that everything happens for a

reason. I realized that had 's admitted my son at the 10-week mark, as they

originally estimated, then the behaviors that have come out since then may not

have emerged at that point, and therefore he would have presented much

differently upon being admitted. The difference from 2 months ago to now is

astounding! While it's been beyond a nightmare to deal with, I really think this

all played out the way it did for a reason.

> >

> >

> >

> >> There is now light at the end of the tunnel!

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked! I am

so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

> >>>

> >>> Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as he

does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely freak out

big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i can't even imagine

how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but somehow we'll do it.

> >>>

> >>> I'll keep you all posted.....

> >>> :)

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks so much, Melssa!

Our flight leaves Tuesday at 6pm, so the plan is I'm taking him for an 11am

appt. that day to his MD who will be the one to do the " intervention. " He's very

fond of his MD and we felt he was the best choice to introduce the situation to

my son, especially since it's coming from a medical perspective as opposed to

psychiatric. My son is in such severe denial he doesn't really feel much is

wrong or that he really needs any help. But the fact is that he's lost 18 lbs.

and grown an inch in the past 2 months, among other things, so at this point it

really is a medical necessity.

We were just there last week and the doc told him in a very gentle fashion that

everyone is really worried about him, and in so many words, he needs to get

help. My son sort of just sloughed it off, but I think it planted a good seed

for what is coming on Tuesday. By the time we leave the MD on Tuesday, we'll

just have a few hours before heading to the airport, it will probably be the

longest few hours of my life!!!

> I am so happy for you. I hope and pray that you will be able to get him there

without too much difficulty.

>

>

> >

> > OMG, I just received an email that my son can FINALLY be admitted next

Tuesday or Wednesday. All of your good thoughts prayers and support worked! I am

so beyond relieved I can not begin to describe!

> >

> > Now comes the very difficult task of getting my son there willingly as he

does not really think there is much of a problem and will completely freak out

big time about going. It will not be a pretty situation and i can't even imagine

how we'll get him on the plane and to Wisconsin, but somehow we'll do it.

> >

> > I'll keep you all posted.....

> > :)

> >

>

>

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Thanks for your suggestions. I've arranged with the doctor to get ativan,

definitely will need something to sedate him. He's not a big kid, however I'm a

pretty small gal so I will definitely need someone on hand just in case. He

hasn't displayed any type of violent or physical behavior and has never had

those tendencies, however he's been SO defiant lately with just about everything

that I am not anticipating this will go smoothly.

I'm sure that I won't be sleeping much Monday night, we leave on Tuesday.

> A couple of thoughts on managing those few hours:

>

> 1. Have your doctor give you something to sedate him ( a couple mg of ativan

or something like that or maybe something stronger )- talk about it ahead of

time with the doctor so that you can pick it up BEFORE you go and not have to

worry about going to a pharmacy to get it after the intervention.

>

> 2. If he is a big kid who is strong, you might want to consider extra people,

strong men at least 2-3 to have around for the few hours needed to get him on

the plane in case he is physically aggressive. Hopefully you won't need them but

just in case…. Best if they are people he trusts.

>

> Good luck. I am so glad for you and hope it helps him quickly

>

>

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Thanks for your suggestions. I've arranged with the doctor to get ativan,

definitely will need something to sedate him. He's not a big kid, however I'm a

pretty small gal so I will definitely need someone on hand just in case. He

hasn't displayed any type of violent or physical behavior and has never had

those tendencies, however he's been SO defiant lately with just about everything

that I am not anticipating this will go smoothly.

I'm sure that I won't be sleeping much Monday night, we leave on Tuesday.

> A couple of thoughts on managing those few hours:

>

> 1. Have your doctor give you something to sedate him ( a couple mg of ativan

or something like that or maybe something stronger )- talk about it ahead of

time with the doctor so that you can pick it up BEFORE you go and not have to

worry about going to a pharmacy to get it after the intervention.

>

> 2. If he is a big kid who is strong, you might want to consider extra people,

strong men at least 2-3 to have around for the few hours needed to get him on

the plane in case he is physically aggressive. Hopefully you won't need them but

just in case…. Best if they are people he trusts.

>

> Good luck. I am so glad for you and hope it helps him quickly

>

>

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> You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by

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list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, and Barb Nesrallah. You may

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Has your son taken Ativan before? If not, you might want to talk to the doctor

about trying it sometime between now and the day of departure. Just in case it

has the opposite effect. And find out how much you can give how often.

> Thanks for your suggestions. I've arranged with the doctor to get ativan,

definitely will need something to sedate him. He's not a big kid, however I'm a

pretty small gal so I will definitely need someone on hand just in case. He

hasn't displayed any type of violent or physical behavior and has never had

those tendencies, however he's been SO defiant lately with just about everything

that I am not anticipating this will go smoothly.

>

> I'm sure that I won't be sleeping much Monday night, we leave on Tuesday.

>

>

>

>> A couple of thoughts on managing those few hours:

>>

>> 1. Have your doctor give you something to sedate him ( a couple mg of ativan

or something like that or maybe something stronger )- talk about it ahead of

time with the doctor so that you can pick it up BEFORE you go and not have to

worry about going to a pharmacy to get it after the intervention.

>>

>> 2. If he is a big kid who is strong, you might want to consider extra people,

strong men at least 2-3 to have around for the few hours needed to get him on

the plane in case he is physically aggressive. Hopefully you won't need them but

just in case…. Best if they are people he trusts.

>>

>> Good luck. I am so glad for you and hope it helps him quickly

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>> Our list archives feature may be accessed at:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling

>> down to the archives calendar .

>> Our links may be accessed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links .

>> Our files may be accessed at

>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files .

>> Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), and

Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org )

>> You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by

inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the

list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, and Barb Nesrallah. You may

contact the moderators at -owner .

>>

>> OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ .

>> Our group and related groups are listed at

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>>

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Has your son taken Ativan before? If not, you might want to talk to the doctor

about trying it sometime between now and the day of departure. Just in case it

has the opposite effect. And find out how much you can give how often.

> Thanks for your suggestions. I've arranged with the doctor to get ativan,

definitely will need something to sedate him. He's not a big kid, however I'm a

pretty small gal so I will definitely need someone on hand just in case. He

hasn't displayed any type of violent or physical behavior and has never had

those tendencies, however he's been SO defiant lately with just about everything

that I am not anticipating this will go smoothly.

>

> I'm sure that I won't be sleeping much Monday night, we leave on Tuesday.

>

>

>

>> A couple of thoughts on managing those few hours:

>>

>> 1. Have your doctor give you something to sedate him ( a couple mg of ativan

or something like that or maybe something stronger )- talk about it ahead of

time with the doctor so that you can pick it up BEFORE you go and not have to

worry about going to a pharmacy to get it after the intervention.

>>

>> 2. If he is a big kid who is strong, you might want to consider extra people,

strong men at least 2-3 to have around for the few hours needed to get him on

the plane in case he is physically aggressive. Hopefully you won't need them but

just in case…. Best if they are people he trusts.

>>

>> Good luck. I am so glad for you and hope it helps him quickly

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>> Our list archives feature may be accessed at:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling

>> down to the archives calendar .

>> Our links may be accessed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links .

>> Our files may be accessed at

>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files .

>> Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), and

Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org )

>> You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by

inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the

list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, and Barb Nesrallah. You may

contact the moderators at -owner .

>>

>> OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at

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>> Our group and related groups are listed at

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Oh, and I'm sure you've thought of this already, but... Does he have some kind

of hand-held video-game thing or a little DVD player? If he likes video-games

or movies or whatever, you could get a new game or movie for a distraction

before and during the airplane.

> Has your son taken Ativan before? If not, you might want to talk to the

doctor about trying it sometime between now and the day of departure. Just in

case it has the opposite effect. And find out how much you can give how often.

>

>

>

>

>

>> Thanks for your suggestions. I've arranged with the doctor to get ativan,

definitely will need something to sedate him. He's not a big kid, however I'm a

pretty small gal so I will definitely need someone on hand just in case. He

hasn't displayed any type of violent or physical behavior and has never had

those tendencies, however he's been SO defiant lately with just about everything

that I am not anticipating this will go smoothly.

>>

>> I'm sure that I won't be sleeping much Monday night, we leave on Tuesday.

>>

>>

>>

>>> A couple of thoughts on managing those few hours:

>>>

>>> 1. Have your doctor give you something to sedate him ( a couple mg of

ativan or something like that or maybe something stronger )- talk about it ahead

of time with the doctor so that you can pick it up BEFORE you go and not have to

worry about going to a pharmacy to get it after the intervention.

>>>

>>> 2. If he is a big kid who is strong, you might want to consider extra

people, strong men at least 2-3 to have around for the few hours needed to get

him on the plane in case he is physically aggressive. Hopefully you won't need

them but just in case…. Best if they are people he trusts.

>>>

>>> Good luck. I am so glad for you and hope it helps him quickly

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> Our list archives feature may be accessed at:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling

>>> down to the archives calendar .

>>> Our links may be accessed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links .

>>> Our files may be accessed at

>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files .

>>> Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ),

and Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org )

>>> You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by

inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the

list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, and Barb Nesrallah. You may

contact the moderators at -owner .

>>>

>>> OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ .

>>> Our group and related groups are listed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links .

>>>

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Oh, and I'm sure you've thought of this already, but... Does he have some kind

of hand-held video-game thing or a little DVD player? If he likes video-games

or movies or whatever, you could get a new game or movie for a distraction

before and during the airplane.

> Has your son taken Ativan before? If not, you might want to talk to the

doctor about trying it sometime between now and the day of departure. Just in

case it has the opposite effect. And find out how much you can give how often.

>

>

>

>

>

>> Thanks for your suggestions. I've arranged with the doctor to get ativan,

definitely will need something to sedate him. He's not a big kid, however I'm a

pretty small gal so I will definitely need someone on hand just in case. He

hasn't displayed any type of violent or physical behavior and has never had

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I absolutely agree with this. My dd was in an intensive inpatient program for 60

days. In her program we weren't able to contact the kids for the first 72 hours

at all. We were able to have 24 hour access to the nurses. After that, phone

calls were earned and became more frequent as privileges were earned. They were

always scheduled in advance though so we knew when the calls were coming. Her

facility felt this was the best way to allow them to fully be involved in the

program. (I know is much more liberal with calls then my dd's place, but

you may still want to limit it, like the other poster mentioned.) We also had

weekly family therapy over the phone, which worked amazingly well, since most of

the patients were not from the area. I hope everything goes well! I am so happy

for you and him that he will finally be going and hope it will be a great thing

for him! Stormy

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> Every child is different but if we could do one thing differently it would be

to NOT promise frequent (nightly) phone calls. Those turned into daily

reassurance-seeking and were more to comfort us than him. In retrospect they

really hurt his progress.

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I absolutely agree with this. My dd was in an intensive inpatient program for 60

days. In her program we weren't able to contact the kids for the first 72 hours

at all. We were able to have 24 hour access to the nurses. After that, phone

calls were earned and became more frequent as privileges were earned. They were

always scheduled in advance though so we knew when the calls were coming. Her

facility felt this was the best way to allow them to fully be involved in the

program. (I know is much more liberal with calls then my dd's place, but

you may still want to limit it, like the other poster mentioned.) We also had

weekly family therapy over the phone, which worked amazingly well, since most of

the patients were not from the area. I hope everything goes well! I am so happy

for you and him that he will finally be going and hope it will be a great thing

for him! Stormy

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On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:02 PM, " ocdparentmichigan "

wrote:

> Every child is different but if we could do one thing differently it would be

to NOT promise frequent (nightly) phone calls. Those turned into daily

reassurance-seeking and were more to comfort us than him. In retrospect they

really hurt his progress.

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Thanks, Stormy and Todd, these are very important points to consider and I'm so

glad you brought it up.

It will be SO hard to not speak with my son daily, but I can definitely see

where this could impede his progress and I rather defer to 's staff for

their recommendations based on their observations and assessments as they get to

know my son.

> I absolutely agree with this. My dd was in an intensive inpatient program for

60 days. In her program we weren't able to contact the kids for the first 72

hours at all. We were able to have 24 hour access to the nurses. After that,

phone calls were earned and became more frequent as privileges were earned. They

were always scheduled in advance though so we knew when the calls were coming.

Her facility felt this was the best way to allow them to fully be involved in

the program. (I know is much more liberal with calls then my dd's place,

but you may still want to limit it, like the other poster mentioned.) We also

had weekly family therapy over the phone, which worked amazingly well, since

most of the patients were not from the area. I hope everything goes well! I am

so happy for you and him that he will finally be going and hope it will be a

great thing for him! Stormy

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:02 PM, " ocdparentmichigan "

wrote:

>

> > Every child is different but if we could do one thing differently it would

be to NOT promise frequent (nightly) phone calls. Those turned into daily

reassurance-seeking and were more to comfort us than him. In retrospect they

really hurt his progress.

>

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Thanks, Stormy and Todd, these are very important points to consider and I'm so

glad you brought it up.

It will be SO hard to not speak with my son daily, but I can definitely see

where this could impede his progress and I rather defer to 's staff for

their recommendations based on their observations and assessments as they get to

know my son.

> I absolutely agree with this. My dd was in an intensive inpatient program for

60 days. In her program we weren't able to contact the kids for the first 72

hours at all. We were able to have 24 hour access to the nurses. After that,

phone calls were earned and became more frequent as privileges were earned. They

were always scheduled in advance though so we knew when the calls were coming.

Her facility felt this was the best way to allow them to fully be involved in

the program. (I know is much more liberal with calls then my dd's place,

but you may still want to limit it, like the other poster mentioned.) We also

had weekly family therapy over the phone, which worked amazingly well, since

most of the patients were not from the area. I hope everything goes well! I am

so happy for you and him that he will finally be going and hope it will be a

great thing for him! Stormy

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:02 PM, " ocdparentmichigan "

wrote:

>

> > Every child is different but if we could do one thing differently it would

be to NOT promise frequent (nightly) phone calls. Those turned into daily

reassurance-seeking and were more to comfort us than him. In retrospect they

really hurt his progress.

>

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I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that doesn't limit calls. I am

very thankful my dd's place did because I definitely think it was to her

benefit, and I didn't look like the bad guy having to do it. Like I said, I

talked to her a few days a week for i think 15 minutes a time and her providers

frequently so I felt like I was very much in the loop with what was going on.

One thing I want to mention is that my dd's providers told me to make sure I do

for myself while she was gone. They would be taking very good care of her and I

should focus on taking time for me while she was gone. Good luck Tuesday! I hope

everything goes smoothly. Stormy

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> It will be SO hard to not speak with my son daily, but I can definitely see

where this could impede his progress and I rather defer to 's staff for

their recommendations based on their observations and assessments as they get to

know my son.

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Thanks, Stormy, I believe you are right about the calls from what I understand.

I agree with you that it would be better if they did limit calls for everyone's

sake.

Taking care of me? I wouldn't even know where to begin to do that it's been SO

long since I've not been knee-deep 24/7 with my son's situation, among other

things. I think it's going to be a huge shock to my mind and body when I return

back home to a childless house. Thank God I have my 2 fur " kids " (dogs) here to

come home to, but I will still miss my son terribly, even despite he hell it's

been with him lately.

> I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that doesn't limit calls. I

am very thankful my dd's place did because I definitely think it was to her

benefit, and I didn't look like the bad guy having to do it. Like I said, I

talked to her a few days a week for i think 15 minutes a time and her providers

frequently so I felt like I was very much in the loop with what was going on.

One thing I want to mention is that my dd's providers told me to make sure I do

for myself while she was gone. They would be taking very good care of her and I

should focus on taking time for me while she was gone. Good luck Tuesday! I hope

everything goes smoothly. Stormy

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

>

> > It will be SO hard to not speak with my son daily, but I can definitely see

where this could impede his progress and I rather defer to 's staff for

their recommendations based on their observations and assessments as they get to

know my son.

>

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, I think all of us that have had kids who are so seriously ill to require

this type of treatment have lost ourselves within the process. My dd was

seriously ill for 3 years before she went and wasn't able to attend school most

of that time. I think it is typical for the mom's in this situation to be

involved 24/7. I returned to a childless home too. It gets easier as the time

goes on while they away, especially once you hear that they are getting better.

I think we are able to help our kids better when they return home if we take

care of ourselves while they are away. I understand how hard it is after having

been through it. I missed my dd terribly but also found that I welcomed the

break more than I had thought I would be able to before I dropped her off. Her

therapists told me it was very typical in our situation to feel relief too, even

if you weren't expecting to feel it. Stormy

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> Taking care of me? I wouldn't even know where to begin to do that it's been SO

long since I've not been knee-deep 24/7 with my son's situation, among other

things. I think it's going to be a huge shock to my mind and body when I return

back home to a childless house. Thank God I have my 2 fur " kids " (dogs) here to

come home to, but I will still miss my son terribly, even despite he hell it's

been with him lately.

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, I think all of us that have had kids who are so seriously ill to require

this type of treatment have lost ourselves within the process. My dd was

seriously ill for 3 years before she went and wasn't able to attend school most

of that time. I think it is typical for the mom's in this situation to be

involved 24/7. I returned to a childless home too. It gets easier as the time

goes on while they away, especially once you hear that they are getting better.

I think we are able to help our kids better when they return home if we take

care of ourselves while they are away. I understand how hard it is after having

been through it. I missed my dd terribly but also found that I welcomed the

break more than I had thought I would be able to before I dropped her off. Her

therapists told me it was very typical in our situation to feel relief too, even

if you weren't expecting to feel it. Stormy

Sent from my iPad

> Taking care of me? I wouldn't even know where to begin to do that it's been SO

long since I've not been knee-deep 24/7 with my son's situation, among other

things. I think it's going to be a huge shock to my mind and body when I return

back home to a childless house. Thank God I have my 2 fur " kids " (dogs) here to

come home to, but I will still miss my son terribly, even despite he hell it's

been with him lately.

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Thanks SO much Judy for all the great info! How funny about the Goodwill store,

I will definitely be hitting that up! I took your suggestion and reserved a room

at the Staybridge Suites, what a great deal!

That's good to know about the phone hours, I tried finding a Tracfone with no

camera, but no luck, so I got a " go phone " by AT & T, which seems fine.

These next few days are going to be so scary and stressful, I just pray that we

all come out of it in one piece!

I have a funny feeling that my son knows he is going. A few months ago, his

psychiatrist slipped up during a session with him and mentioned that he was on

the 's wait list. I found this out on the ride home when my son brought it

up, so I just sloughed it off and didn't say much about it and he didn't

question any further and never brought it up again. This is VERY unusual for

him, even in the state he is in now.

The other day from 's called while I was driving in the car with my

son. I didn't say much back to her because he was there, but I said " okay,

, thanks, I hope it all goes smoothly. " Now, my son would normally have

given me the 3rd degree... who's , what does she want, what were you

talking about, etc., He did not say one word at all.

So we'll see how it all goes tomorrow. I'll try to post to the list as soon as

I'm able with an update.

:)

> My daughter is at now. The actual telephone times (they have a written

schedule that lists more times, but we have never been able to talk to her

during the other times listed) are from 7:30 - 9:00 pm, and you can purchase a

cell phone (recommended) for your son from Wallmart (a tracfone) that is

inexpensive and DOES NOT have access to the internet. They will give him the

telephone if he requests it during the phoning hours. I have found the evening

calls useful because my daughter will share things with me about her disease

that she will not share with her therapy team, and I will pass it on. This is

not the best: it would be better if she trusted her team more, but it is the way

it is. On a good night we will talk for 30 seconds because she wants to go to

watch American Idol with the other teens! I think it is a comfort to know that

she CAN call, even if she doesn't want to talk long.

>

> They will limit visits for the first couple of weeks, and many of the teens

come from far away so if you are unable to visit frequently, your son will not

be alone.

>

> Things to do:

> The Goodwill in Oconomowoc is the BEST.

>

> The Kmart is convenient for buying shampoo and other things he might like.

> Milwaukee has the best art museum.

> Madison has an awesome street from the Capitol to the University of Wisconsin

where there are little stores and coffee shops.

> Downtown Oconomowoc is adorable and there is a great comic book shop that your

son might like. Really great ice cream store, too, that sells gelato.

>

> Yes, take some time to spoil yourself. You'll need the energy for when he

returns home!

>

> Take care!

>

> Judy

>

>

>

>

> Judy Hawkinson

> judyhawkinson@...

>

> cell:

>

>

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,

Keep in mind tomorrow that there are lots and lots of us all around the country

keeping our fingers crossed for a smooth trip and thinking of you.

> Thanks SO much Judy for all the great info! How funny about the Goodwill

store, I will definitely be hitting that up! I took your suggestion and reserved

a room at the Staybridge Suites, what a great deal!

> That's good to know about the phone hours, I tried finding a Tracfone with no

camera, but no luck, so I got a " go phone " by AT & T, which seems fine.

>

> These next few days are going to be so scary and stressful, I just pray that

we all come out of it in one piece!

>

> I have a funny feeling that my son knows he is going. A few months ago, his

psychiatrist slipped up during a session with him and mentioned that he was on

the 's wait list. I found this out on the ride home when my son brought it

up, so I just sloughed it off and didn't say much about it and he didn't

question any further and never brought it up again. This is VERY unusual for

him, even in the state he is in now.

>

> The other day from 's called while I was driving in the car with my

son. I didn't say much back to her because he was there, but I said " okay,

, thanks, I hope it all goes smoothly. " Now, my son would normally have

given me the 3rd degree... who's , what does she want, what were you

talking about, etc., He did not say one word at all.

>

> So we'll see how it all goes tomorrow. I'll try to post to the list as soon as

I'm able with an update.

>

> :)

>

>> My daughter is at now. The actual telephone times (they have a

written schedule that lists more times, but we have never been able to talk to

her during the other times listed) are from 7:30 - 9:00 pm, and you can purchase

a cell phone (recommended) for your son from Wallmart (a tracfone) that is

inexpensive and DOES NOT have access to the internet. They will give him the

telephone if he requests it during the phoning hours. I have found the evening

calls useful because my daughter will share things with me about her disease

that she will not share with her therapy team, and I will pass it on. This is

not the best: it would be better if she trusted her team more, but it is the way

it is. On a good night we will talk for 30 seconds because she wants to go to

watch American Idol with the other teens! I think it is a comfort to know that

she CAN call, even if she doesn't want to talk long.

>>

>> They will limit visits for the first couple of weeks, and many of the teens

come from far away so if you are unable to visit frequently, your son will not

be alone.

>>

>> Things to do:

>> The Goodwill in Oconomowoc is the BEST.

>>

>> The Kmart is convenient for buying shampoo and other things he might like.

>> Milwaukee has the best art museum.

>> Madison has an awesome street from the Capitol to the University of Wisconsin

where there are little stores and coffee shops.

>> Downtown Oconomowoc is adorable and there is a great comic book shop that

your son might like. Really great ice cream store, too, that sells gelato.

>>

>> Yes, take some time to spoil yourself. You'll need the energy for when he

returns home!

>>

>> Take care!

>>

>> Judy

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Judy Hawkinson

>> judyhawkinson@...

>>

>> cell:

>>

>>

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,

Keep in mind tomorrow that there are lots and lots of us all around the country

keeping our fingers crossed for a smooth trip and thinking of you.

> Thanks SO much Judy for all the great info! How funny about the Goodwill

store, I will definitely be hitting that up! I took your suggestion and reserved

a room at the Staybridge Suites, what a great deal!

> That's good to know about the phone hours, I tried finding a Tracfone with no

camera, but no luck, so I got a " go phone " by AT & T, which seems fine.

>

> These next few days are going to be so scary and stressful, I just pray that

we all come out of it in one piece!

>

> I have a funny feeling that my son knows he is going. A few months ago, his

psychiatrist slipped up during a session with him and mentioned that he was on

the 's wait list. I found this out on the ride home when my son brought it

up, so I just sloughed it off and didn't say much about it and he didn't

question any further and never brought it up again. This is VERY unusual for

him, even in the state he is in now.

>

> The other day from 's called while I was driving in the car with my

son. I didn't say much back to her because he was there, but I said " okay,

, thanks, I hope it all goes smoothly. " Now, my son would normally have

given me the 3rd degree... who's , what does she want, what were you

talking about, etc., He did not say one word at all.

>

> So we'll see how it all goes tomorrow. I'll try to post to the list as soon as

I'm able with an update.

>

> :)

>

>> My daughter is at now. The actual telephone times (they have a

written schedule that lists more times, but we have never been able to talk to

her during the other times listed) are from 7:30 - 9:00 pm, and you can purchase

a cell phone (recommended) for your son from Wallmart (a tracfone) that is

inexpensive and DOES NOT have access to the internet. They will give him the

telephone if he requests it during the phoning hours. I have found the evening

calls useful because my daughter will share things with me about her disease

that she will not share with her therapy team, and I will pass it on. This is

not the best: it would be better if she trusted her team more, but it is the way

it is. On a good night we will talk for 30 seconds because she wants to go to

watch American Idol with the other teens! I think it is a comfort to know that

she CAN call, even if she doesn't want to talk long.

>>

>> They will limit visits for the first couple of weeks, and many of the teens

come from far away so if you are unable to visit frequently, your son will not

be alone.

>>

>> Things to do:

>> The Goodwill in Oconomowoc is the BEST.

>>

>> The Kmart is convenient for buying shampoo and other things he might like.

>> Milwaukee has the best art museum.

>> Madison has an awesome street from the Capitol to the University of Wisconsin

where there are little stores and coffee shops.

>> Downtown Oconomowoc is adorable and there is a great comic book shop that

your son might like. Really great ice cream store, too, that sells gelato.

>>

>> Yes, take some time to spoil yourself. You'll need the energy for when he

returns home!

>>

>> Take care!

>>

>> Judy

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Judy Hawkinson

>> judyhawkinson@...

>>

>> cell:

>>

>>

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