Re: Will It Ever Stop?

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Would she be open to joining a support group? If this is at all a possibility,

it may  be useful for her to relate to others with the same condition. just a

thought.

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To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:57 PM

Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

 

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on to

other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years ago.

Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

[Guest guest]

Would she be open to joining a support group? If this is at all a possibility,

it may  be useful for her to relate to others with the same condition. just a

thought.

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:57 PM

Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

 

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on to

other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years ago.

Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

[Guest guest]

WHat makes her happy? does she know? do some very deep soul searching with

her and find what makes her happy if at all possible. Sounds to me as

though there is a lot suppressed in her spirit. Not uncommon and not anyone's

fault. I KNow my child has been through it and driven me insane! BUt find

something that frees her spirit, and brings JOY. whatever that may be..

school and outer success are what this society pushes at a very serious cost to

our spirit and soul! I had very severe ocd for years and I feel that ocd is

a lot about stuck energy. but a serious amount of energy in the soup and

body that needs to be released and move. I know this isn't western

medicine's idea, but I don;t think psychiatry has spiritual answers, just brian

chemistry which is fine to a point, but then it doesn't address very deep

questions.

In a message dated 2/15/2012 12:14:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lesliefellman@... writes:

Would she be open to joining a support group? If this is at all a

possibility, it may be useful for her to relate to others with the same

condition.

just a thought.

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From: fundudefundad <_fd_moore@..._ (mailto:fd_moore@...) >

To: _ _

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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:57 PM

Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have

changed, but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone

on to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7

years ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many,

many other areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait

from her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private

and very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself

(FINALLY (we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing

that goes wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates

the school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose,

on the Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid -

knew it wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was

angry at her anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made

her sick as a dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER

getting IV fluids and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really

good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on

just how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one

this weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great

responsibility, and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life.

She

has decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for

5 years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5

years of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control).

She revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the

compulsive behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive

thoughts about a lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety,

plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us

for so long. But now she's much more open about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better

(but at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But

you all know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult,

and in college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment,

she sees potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell

them she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her

intent, they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and

knew

she screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm

based questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for

24 or 48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain

we've not felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to

convince them she wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her

anxiety,

and we've been fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from

the fact that our daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the

Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh

life is so full of memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us

luck. Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

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Yes she has an outlet - she loves to sing and loves to be on stage. Which is

one of the reasons she hates her school. There isnt an avenue for that. Shes

a free spirit stuck in a place where there are curfews and restrictions and the

" if your not like us you arent a Christian " mindset and that only makes it

worse. Its a square peg in a round hole.

Because of where she is and her negative experiences she doesnt want help from

the school. Off campus regularity (support group) is not practical.

She chose the school which surprised us all. But shes experiencing life now and

is finding it not as easy as she thought it would be. So pile on anxiety and

ocd and its.a toxic mix

>

> Would she be open to joining a support group? If this is at all a possibility,

it may  be useful for her to relate to others with the same condition. just a

thought.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes she has an outlet - she loves to sing and loves to be on stage. Which is

one of the reasons she hates her school. There isnt an avenue for that. Shes

a free spirit stuck in a place where there are curfews and restrictions and the

" if your not like us you arent a Christian " mindset and that only makes it

worse. Its a square peg in a round hole.

Because of where she is and her negative experiences she doesnt want help from

the school. Off campus regularity (support group) is not practical.

She chose the school which surprised us all. But shes experiencing life now and

is finding it not as easy as she thought it would be. So pile on anxiety and

ocd and its.a toxic mix

>

> Would she be open to joining a support group? If this is at all a possibility,

it may  be useful for her to relate to others with the same condition. just a

thought.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes she has an outlet - she loves to sing and loves to be on stage. Which is

one of the reasons she hates her school. There isnt an avenue for that. Shes

a free spirit stuck in a place where there are curfews and restrictions and the

" if your not like us you arent a Christian " mindset and that only makes it

worse. Its a square peg in a round hole.

Because of where she is and her negative experiences she doesnt want help from

the school. Off campus regularity (support group) is not practical.

She chose the school which surprised us all. But shes experiencing life now and

is finding it not as easy as she thought it would be. So pile on anxiety and

ocd and its.a toxic mix

>

> Would she be open to joining a support group? If this is at all a possibility,

it may  be useful for her to relate to others with the same condition. just a

thought.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes she has an outlet - she loves to sing and loves to be on stage. Which is

one of the reasons she hates her school. There isnt an avenue for that. Shes

a free spirit stuck in a place where there are curfews and restrictions and the

" if your not like us you arent a Christian " mindset and that only makes it

worse. Its a square peg in a round hole.

Because of where she is and her negative experiences she doesnt want help from

the school. Off campus regularity (support group) is not practical.

She chose the school which surprised us all. But shes experiencing life now and

is finding it not as easy as she thought it would be. So pile on anxiety and

ocd and its.a toxic mix

>

> Would she be open to joining a support group? If this is at all a possibility,

it may  be useful for her to relate to others with the same condition. just a

thought.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't really have any good advice, but I just want to let you know that my

heart goes out to you and what you are going through. My sister who was

diagnosed with OCD and bipolar disorder many years ago overdosed once. I don't

think she was trying to end it either. She was hospitalized for about a month

afterward. I don't know that the hospitilization helped or hurt her. About

four or five years later though, she made a turn-around on her own. She

actually had a baby and I think that is what did it for her. I guess she just

needed to feel like she had a purpose or something.

>

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug and

support!  We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress.  Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety.  Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard.  That managing OCD and anxiety is

a lifetime of " maintenance " .  Whether that be therapy or managing medications,

etc.  The start of college is something you and she should be proud of.  But

with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and anxiety.   Sometimes

we have to be " forced " into making a decision or acknowledging that we need

extra help (medication, therapy).  I think she's made a big step in

acknowledging this and opening up!  She may be fragile right now, but this

may be the start of  something so much better

for her!  I am here if you need to talk!!

 

Christie

 

To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

 

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on to

other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years ago.

Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

[Guest guest]

I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug and

support!  We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress.  Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety.  Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard.  That managing OCD and anxiety is

a lifetime of " maintenance " .  Whether that be therapy or managing medications,

etc.  The start of college is something you and she should be proud of.  But

with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and anxiety.   Sometimes

we have to be " forced " into making a decision or acknowledging that we need

extra help (medication, therapy).  I think she's made a big step in

acknowledging this and opening up!  She may be fragile right now, but this

may be the start of  something so much better

for her!  I am here if you need to talk!!

 

Christie

 

To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

 

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on to

other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years ago.

Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

[Guest guest]

Thank you, it's much appreciated. Even without the anxiety and OCD, she's a

very complicated person. She's rebellious and wants to be independent, but she

is immature and sees the world through rose colored glasses. I've always

advocated to get her out of the house and on her own so she can learn for

herself that it's no so bad at home and she's in full charge of her own choices

and can't blame us anymore. She has always been defiant, for reasons she admits

she doesn't even know. So through the anxiety, OCD, ODD, bi-polar like symtoms

shes gone through, she's needed a lot of help. But because of her rebellious

and independent spirit, she didn't want it.

Being on her own (as far as being in college anyway) has been an awakening for

her. Fortunately, she's learning from it. Unfortunately she has all these

mental health issues that make it very, very hard. She is having a hard time

dealing with the pressures we knew would be there, but she refused to accept

would be there. On one hand we know she needs to learn how the world works, and

she needs to do this. But in doing so, her demons are hitting her hard. So many

mixed emotions...

> >

> > It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have

changed, but I haven't left.

> > Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> > Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait

from her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> > Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private

and very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> > She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> > Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on

just how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

> > So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> > Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell

them she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

> > So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, it's much appreciated. Even without the anxiety and OCD, she's a

very complicated person. She's rebellious and wants to be independent, but she

is immature and sees the world through rose colored glasses. I've always

advocated to get her out of the house and on her own so she can learn for

herself that it's no so bad at home and she's in full charge of her own choices

and can't blame us anymore. She has always been defiant, for reasons she admits

she doesn't even know. So through the anxiety, OCD, ODD, bi-polar like symtoms

shes gone through, she's needed a lot of help. But because of her rebellious

and independent spirit, she didn't want it.

Being on her own (as far as being in college anyway) has been an awakening for

her. Fortunately, she's learning from it. Unfortunately she has all these

mental health issues that make it very, very hard. She is having a hard time

dealing with the pressures we knew would be there, but she refused to accept

would be there. On one hand we know she needs to learn how the world works, and

she needs to do this. But in doing so, her demons are hitting her hard. So many

mixed emotions...

> >

> > It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have

changed, but I haven't left.

> > Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> > Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait

from her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> > Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private

and very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> > She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> > Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on

just how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has

decided, on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a

breakthrough, and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5

years). She said more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years

of " parental mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She

revealed that her OCD is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive

behaviors so much that we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a

lot of things, like how to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive

thoughts about the anxiety. Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But

now she's much more open about it.

> > So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> > Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell

them she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to

" monitor " you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent,

they don't know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she

screwed up). Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based

questions, and advise that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or

48 hours " if they think it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not

felt, and man we've been through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she

wasn't suicidal, but impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been

fighting it for a long time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our

daughter was taking drug tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and

getting IV fluids to flush the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of

memories...

> > So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Christie - you are firing on all cylinders and are spot on with

everything you said! Like your son, and you put it in better words than I

could, she has obsessive thoughts about hurting herself. When the therapist in

the ER asked her how often she thinks about doing what she did (OD), her

response was " all the time, every waking minute of every day " . We were totally

shocked and alarmed. But I believe, now that you've articulated it better, it's

really an obsessive/OCD thought she can't get out of her head. She could have

acted on this a LONG time ago, but she hasn't, until now. And now she knows

what it's like, she said she doesn't ever want go through it again. So maybe it

was an experiment to satisfy the curiosity of her obsessive thoughts?

In a weird twist, she knew exactly what she was doing and what would happen.

She knew we had other meds in the house - like Xanax, which she's also taken.

The therapist was concerned and said she could die if she overdosed on Xanax.

Later at home, I asked her about it - if we had more Xanax in the house (we only

had two small dose pills) would she have taken a handful of them instead of or

in addition to the Zoloft? She said, " Daddy, I've researched all this, I know a

lot about these drugs. I knew I could die on Xanax, so no, I would not have

taken them. I knew if I overdosed on Zoloft it wouldn't kill me, but could just

make me really sick. I took the Xanax you had in the dose that was prescribed

for me. I just took two of them, but the dosage wasn't more than what I was

prescribed " . So it's like giving into a tempatation which you know is bad and

maybe dangerous, but it won't kill you, so you give it a shot. Smart or dumb?

DOing a dumb thing smartly? Like shooting yourself in the foot, just to feel

what it's like. Stupid but not lethal. So now that she knows, where will she go

from here? Only OCD knows...

>

> I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug and

support!  We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress.  Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety.  Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard.  That managing OCD and anxiety is

a lifetime of " maintenance " .  Whether that be therapy or managing medications,

etc.  The start of college is something you and she should be proud of.  But

with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and anxiety.   Sometimes

we have to be " forced " into making a decision or acknowledging that we need

extra help (medication, therapy).  I think she's made a big step in

acknowledging this and opening up!  She may be fragile right now, but this

may be the start of  something so much better

> for her!  I am here if you need to talk!!

>  

> Christie

>  

>

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Christie - you are firing on all cylinders and are spot on with

everything you said! Like your son, and you put it in better words than I

could, she has obsessive thoughts about hurting herself. When the therapist in

the ER asked her how often she thinks about doing what she did (OD), her

response was " all the time, every waking minute of every day " . We were totally

shocked and alarmed. But I believe, now that you've articulated it better, it's

really an obsessive/OCD thought she can't get out of her head. She could have

acted on this a LONG time ago, but she hasn't, until now. And now she knows

what it's like, she said she doesn't ever want go through it again. So maybe it

was an experiment to satisfy the curiosity of her obsessive thoughts?

In a weird twist, she knew exactly what she was doing and what would happen.

She knew we had other meds in the house - like Xanax, which she's also taken.

The therapist was concerned and said she could die if she overdosed on Xanax.

Later at home, I asked her about it - if we had more Xanax in the house (we only

had two small dose pills) would she have taken a handful of them instead of or

in addition to the Zoloft? She said, " Daddy, I've researched all this, I know a

lot about these drugs. I knew I could die on Xanax, so no, I would not have

taken them. I knew if I overdosed on Zoloft it wouldn't kill me, but could just

make me really sick. I took the Xanax you had in the dose that was prescribed

for me. I just took two of them, but the dosage wasn't more than what I was

prescribed " . So it's like giving into a tempatation which you know is bad and

maybe dangerous, but it won't kill you, so you give it a shot. Smart or dumb?

DOing a dumb thing smartly? Like shooting yourself in the foot, just to feel

what it's like. Stupid but not lethal. So now that she knows, where will she go

from here? Only OCD knows...

>

> I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug and

support!  We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress.  Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety.  Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard.  That managing OCD and anxiety is

a lifetime of " maintenance " .  Whether that be therapy or managing medications,

etc.  The start of college is something you and she should be proud of.  But

with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and anxiety.   Sometimes

we have to be " forced " into making a decision or acknowledging that we need

extra help (medication, therapy).  I think she's made a big step in

acknowledging this and opening up!  She may be fragile right now, but this

may be the start of  something so much better

> for her!  I am here if you need to talk!!

>  

> Christie

>  

>

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One thing I've learned from my OCD obsessions is that they mean " nothing " .... 

I tell my son this.  The thoughts mean " nothing " .  All they are are

thoughts.  Because we have OCD, when we get these " thoughts " it causes a fight

or flight feeling of anxiety or " why did I just think that? "   The more we fight

the thought or wonder why we are thinking them, the more persistent the thoughts

are.  What I've learned on myself and what I tell my son is to let the thoughts

go thru you.  Accept them as no big deal.  They mean nothing!!  When my son

was hospitalized two years ago, he told us " that he didn't want to hurt

himself " .  We took it as, Oh My Gosh, he's sucidal.  Well -- I believe now

what was really happening were obsessive thoughts that he was afraid of.  He

was trying to control his thoughts and the more he tried to control them, the

stronger they became.  Your daughter was crying for help and help has now found

her.  She is accepting that

she needs help.  I think medication helps " lesson " the obsessive thoughts. 

Therapy for me and my son helps " explain " and " accept " it.  Always here to

talk!

 

Christie

 

To:

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: Will It Ever Stop?

 

Thanks Christie - you are firing on all cylinders and are spot on with

everything you said! Like your son, and you put it in better words than I could,

she has obsessive thoughts about hurting herself. When the therapist in the ER

asked her how often she thinks about doing what she did (OD), her response was

" all the time, every waking minute of every day " . We were totally shocked and

alarmed. But I believe, now that you've articulated it better, it's really an

obsessive/OCD thought she can't get out of her head. She could have acted on

this a LONG time ago, but she hasn't, until now. And now she knows what it's

like, she said she doesn't ever want go through it again. So maybe it was an

experiment to satisfy the curiosity of her obsessive thoughts?

In a weird twist, she knew exactly what she was doing and what would happen. She

knew we had other meds in the house - like Xanax, which she's also taken. The

therapist was concerned and said she could die if she overdosed on Xanax. Later

at home, I asked her about it - if we had more Xanax in the house (we only had

two small dose pills) would she have taken a handful of them instead of or in

addition to the Zoloft? She said, " Daddy, I've researched all this, I know a lot

about these drugs. I knew I could die on Xanax, so no, I would not have taken

them. I knew if I overdosed on Zoloft it wouldn't kill me, but could just make

me really sick. I took the Xanax you had in the dose that was prescribed for me.

I just took two of them, but the dosage wasn't more than what I was prescribed " .

So it's like giving into a tempatation which you know is bad and maybe

dangerous, but it won't kill you, so you give it a shot. Smart or dumb? DOing a

dumb thing smartly?

Like shooting yourself in the foot, just to feel what it's like. Stupid but not

lethal. So now that she knows, where will she go from here? Only OCD knows...

>

> I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug and

support!  We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress.  Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety.  Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard.  That managing OCD and anxiety

is a lifetime of " maintenance " .  Whether that be therapy or managing

medications, etc.  The start of college is something you and she should be

proud of.  But with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and

anxiety.   Sometimes we have to be " forced " into making a decision or

acknowledging that we need extra help (medication, therapy).  I think she's

made a big step in acknowledging this and opening up!  She may be fragile

right now, but this may be the

start of  something so much better

> for her!  I am here if you need to talk!!

>  

> Christie

>  

>

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One thing I've learned from my OCD obsessions is that they mean " nothing " .... 

I tell my son this.  The thoughts mean " nothing " .  All they are are

thoughts.  Because we have OCD, when we get these " thoughts " it causes a fight

or flight feeling of anxiety or " why did I just think that? "   The more we fight

the thought or wonder why we are thinking them, the more persistent the thoughts

are.  What I've learned on myself and what I tell my son is to let the thoughts

go thru you.  Accept them as no big deal.  They mean nothing!!  When my son

was hospitalized two years ago, he told us " that he didn't want to hurt

himself " .  We took it as, Oh My Gosh, he's sucidal.  Well -- I believe now

what was really happening were obsessive thoughts that he was afraid of.  He

was trying to control his thoughts and the more he tried to control them, the

stronger they became.  Your daughter was crying for help and help has now found

her.  She is accepting that

she needs help.  I think medication helps " lesson " the obsessive thoughts. 

Therapy for me and my son helps " explain " and " accept " it.  Always here to

talk!

 

Christie

 

To:

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: Will It Ever Stop?

 

Thanks Christie - you are firing on all cylinders and are spot on with

everything you said! Like your son, and you put it in better words than I could,

she has obsessive thoughts about hurting herself. When the therapist in the ER

asked her how often she thinks about doing what she did (OD), her response was

" all the time, every waking minute of every day " . We were totally shocked and

alarmed. But I believe, now that you've articulated it better, it's really an

obsessive/OCD thought she can't get out of her head. She could have acted on

this a LONG time ago, but she hasn't, until now. And now she knows what it's

like, she said she doesn't ever want go through it again. So maybe it was an

experiment to satisfy the curiosity of her obsessive thoughts?

In a weird twist, she knew exactly what she was doing and what would happen. She

knew we had other meds in the house - like Xanax, which she's also taken. The

therapist was concerned and said she could die if she overdosed on Xanax. Later

at home, I asked her about it - if we had more Xanax in the house (we only had

two small dose pills) would she have taken a handful of them instead of or in

addition to the Zoloft? She said, " Daddy, I've researched all this, I know a lot

about these drugs. I knew I could die on Xanax, so no, I would not have taken

them. I knew if I overdosed on Zoloft it wouldn't kill me, but could just make

me really sick. I took the Xanax you had in the dose that was prescribed for me.

I just took two of them, but the dosage wasn't more than what I was prescribed " .

So it's like giving into a tempatation which you know is bad and maybe

dangerous, but it won't kill you, so you give it a shot. Smart or dumb? DOing a

dumb thing smartly?

Like shooting yourself in the foot, just to feel what it's like. Stupid but not

lethal. So now that she knows, where will she go from here? Only OCD knows...

>

> I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug and

support!  We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress.  Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety.  Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard.  That managing OCD and anxiety

is a lifetime of " maintenance " .  Whether that be therapy or managing

medications, etc.  The start of college is something you and she should be

proud of.  But with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and

anxiety.   Sometimes we have to be " forced " into making a decision or

acknowledging that we need extra help (medication, therapy).  I think she's

made a big step in acknowledging this and opening up!  She may be fragile

right now, but this may be the

start of  something so much better

> for her!  I am here if you need to talk!!

>  

> Christie

>  

>

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>  

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, no sage advice, but am happy she is willing to try therapy/meds now. Is she

gonna stick with the current college, what with being so unhappy there?

Certainly not the first student to switch schools or move to one closer home.

I recall how difficult it's been for her (and you/mom) over the years, but

hopeful this " incident " will provide some growth, turnaround for her, and that

maybe a new medication will help more...though you did say she'd stopped the

Zoloft, was it helping any at all when she did continue to take it?

>

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's

[Guest guest]

hi brian i have gonne through so much with my son who had ocd...and from my

experience if you stand up to her and dont give in, ocd will stop but you have

to do anything the oppositte she says or does, my one never had therapy or

medicine cos he refused but the ocd is gonne, however sometimes he is still not

sure and ask for reassurence from me but i dont give it, i refuse to answer his

question.. he had very bad ocd and he was sectioned 2 times but i personally

think that ocd is caused and it happens to children who are very dependent on

the parents, its a way that the ocd people want to do things or act but they

have to brake the circle and to do this it is so hard for them, thats why they

need help by the people who they live with by saying no to them and stand up, i

know its hard but i had no other way and personally think its the best thing to

do. i dont think medicine or therapy works..it didnt for my son, u have to see

the side effects as well...she can do it and everybody can, but please parents

say NO to OCD, by not accepting it, and if it comes to the worst part of calling

911 do it, dont feel guilty the quicker u stand up to OCD, the sooner it goes

away or otherwise it will never go away, never...IT might seem nasty sayng this

but PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR CHILD, ITS THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT

OCD...no matter how aggresive they get just do it, and soon you will see the

difference, dont show to them that you feel guilty and sorry and upset just

pretend there is nothing wrong and assure them that they can overcome it, but

they have to do it themselves not you, be tough and dont feel sorry...They have

to learn the tough way, if you are soft it wont help them at all... all the best

to everyone

To:

From: bcwallin@...

Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:22:39 -0800

Subject: Re: Will It Ever Stop?

I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug and

support! We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress. Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety. Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard. That managing OCD and anxiety is

a lifetime of " maintenance " . Whether that be therapy or managing medications,

etc. The start of college is something you and she should be proud of. But

with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and anxiety. Sometimes we

have to be " forced " into making a decision or acknowledging that we need extra

help (medication, therapy). I think she's made a big step in acknowledging this

and opening up! She may be fragile right now, but this may be the start of

something so much better

for her! I am here if you need to talk!!

Christie

To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on to

other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years ago.

Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

[Guest guest]

, I saw this post and it looks like it was from Feb. How is your daughter

doing? My OCD son's personality is not like your daughter's but I have been

dealing with another 22 r. old son with BP, psychotic break in Dec.2011, phosp

in another state, home in IOP, and now home til he goes back in the fall to

finish a few courses.

It is hard when they are " adults " legally but obviously not mature enough to

handle all the stresses that comes with moving out and going away to college. My

son was put in ER, phosp on 72 hr. hold and then another 2 week hold b/c of

safety. I was so thankful that this was in place b/c he had no insight and

thought it was all a mistake, on my part. It does sound like your daughter has

the insight to know she needs help. That is a huge step in the right direction.

The overdose sounds like a call for help and you responded appropriately. Did

your daughter end up on medical leave from school? We have been working closely

with his college's health center and my son has signed up with disability

resources for when he goes back. Even though she may be angry and blaming, etc.

you still have to be firm and make sure things are in place for her. It sounds

like high anxiety to me so she could learn to manage her life there at school.

We have learned that it is def. harder with a child that is more resistent and

an " adult " . You want to help but are limited in alot of ways. I am planning to

attend the NAMI family to family class in Sept. to see how other parents deal

with the young adult. In our case it is the BP. Let us know how she is doing.

in WI-55 PT in schools

roy-Anxiety/depression/OCD, ADD. 504 in schools.

ds-22. BP 1, psychotic break 12/11. Medical leave from college.

>

>

> hi brian i have gonne through so much with my son who had ocd...and from my

experience if you stand up to her and dont give in, ocd will stop but you have

to do anything the oppositte she says or does, my one never had therapy or

medicine cos he refused but the ocd is gonne, however sometimes he is still not

sure and ask for reassurence from me but i dont give it, i refuse to answer his

question.. he had very bad ocd and he was sectioned 2 times but i personally

think that ocd is caused and it happens to children who are very dependent on

the parents, its a way that the ocd people want to do things or act but they

have to brake the circle and to do this it is so hard for them, thats why they

need help by the people who they live with by saying no to them and stand up, i

know its hard but i had no other way and personally think its the best thing to

do. i dont think medicine or therapy works..it didnt for my son, u have to see

the side effects as well...she can do it and everybody can, but please parents

say NO to OCD, by not accepting it, and if it comes to the worst part of calling

911 do it, dont feel guilty the quicker u stand up to OCD, the sooner it goes

away or otherwise it will never go away, never...IT might seem nasty sayng this

but PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR CHILD, ITS THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT

OCD...no matter how aggresive they get just do it, and soon you will see the

difference, dont show to them that you feel guilty and sorry and upset just

pretend there is nothing wrong and assure them that they can overcome it, but

they have to do it themselves not you, be tough and dont feel sorry...They have

to learn the tough way, if you are soft it wont help them at all... all the best

to everyone

> To:

> From: bcwallin@...

> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:22:39 -0800

> Subject: Re: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug

and support! We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress. Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety. Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard. That managing OCD and anxiety is

a lifetime of " maintenance " . Whether that be therapy or managing medications,

etc. The start of college is something you and she should be proud of. But

with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and anxiety. Sometimes we

have to be " forced " into making a decision or acknowledging that we need extra

help (medication, therapy). I think she's made a big step in acknowledging this

and opening up! She may be fragile right now, but this may be the start of

something so much better

>

> for her! I am here if you need to talk!!

>

>

>

> Christie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To:

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

>

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>

>

>

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

>

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

>

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

>

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

>

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

>

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

>

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

>

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

>

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I saw this post and it looks like it was from Feb. How is your daughter

doing? My OCD son's personality is not like your daughter's but I have been

dealing with another 22 r. old son with BP, psychotic break in Dec.2011, phosp

in another state, home in IOP, and now home til he goes back in the fall to

finish a few courses.

It is hard when they are " adults " legally but obviously not mature enough to

handle all the stresses that comes with moving out and going away to college. My

son was put in ER, phosp on 72 hr. hold and then another 2 week hold b/c of

safety. I was so thankful that this was in place b/c he had no insight and

thought it was all a mistake, on my part. It does sound like your daughter has

the insight to know she needs help. That is a huge step in the right direction.

The overdose sounds like a call for help and you responded appropriately. Did

your daughter end up on medical leave from school? We have been working closely

with his college's health center and my son has signed up with disability

resources for when he goes back. Even though she may be angry and blaming, etc.

you still have to be firm and make sure things are in place for her. It sounds

like high anxiety to me so she could learn to manage her life there at school.

We have learned that it is def. harder with a child that is more resistent and

an " adult " . You want to help but are limited in alot of ways. I am planning to

attend the NAMI family to family class in Sept. to see how other parents deal

with the young adult. In our case it is the BP. Let us know how she is doing.

in WI-55 PT in schools

roy-Anxiety/depression/OCD, ADD. 504 in schools.

ds-22. BP 1, psychotic break 12/11. Medical leave from college.

>

>

> hi brian i have gonne through so much with my son who had ocd...and from my

experience if you stand up to her and dont give in, ocd will stop but you have

to do anything the oppositte she says or does, my one never had therapy or

medicine cos he refused but the ocd is gonne, however sometimes he is still not

sure and ask for reassurence from me but i dont give it, i refuse to answer his

question.. he had very bad ocd and he was sectioned 2 times but i personally

think that ocd is caused and it happens to children who are very dependent on

the parents, its a way that the ocd people want to do things or act but they

have to brake the circle and to do this it is so hard for them, thats why they

need help by the people who they live with by saying no to them and stand up, i

know its hard but i had no other way and personally think its the best thing to

do. i dont think medicine or therapy works..it didnt for my son, u have to see

the side effects as well...she can do it and everybody can, but please parents

say NO to OCD, by not accepting it, and if it comes to the worst part of calling

911 do it, dont feel guilty the quicker u stand up to OCD, the sooner it goes

away or otherwise it will never go away, never...IT might seem nasty sayng this

but PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR CHILD, ITS THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT

OCD...no matter how aggresive they get just do it, and soon you will see the

difference, dont show to them that you feel guilty and sorry and upset just

pretend there is nothing wrong and assure them that they can overcome it, but

they have to do it themselves not you, be tough and dont feel sorry...They have

to learn the tough way, if you are soft it wont help them at all... all the best

to everyone

> To:

> From: bcwallin@...

> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:22:39 -0800

> Subject: Re: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

>

>

> I don't have much advice for you -- but wanted to give you a cyber hug

and support! We are finding out that our 14 year old son's OCD and anxiety

definately worsen with stress. Like your daughter, he also doesn't have much

compulsions that we know of -- just the obsessive thoughts of hurting himself

and severe anxiety. Maybe by explaining to your daughter that change,

especially for us OCDers, is especially hard. That managing OCD and anxiety is

a lifetime of " maintenance " . Whether that be therapy or managing medications,

etc. The start of college is something you and she should be proud of. But

with that comes extra stress that comes out in OCD and anxiety. Sometimes we

have to be " forced " into making a decision or acknowledging that we need extra

help (medication, therapy). I think she's made a big step in acknowledging this

and opening up! She may be fragile right now, but this may be the start of

something so much better

>

> for her! I am here if you need to talk!!

>

>

>

> Christie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To:

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:57 PM

>

> Subject: Will It Ever Stop?

>

>

>

>

>

> It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

>

> Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on

to other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years

ago. Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

>

> Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

>

> Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

>

> She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

>

> Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

>

> So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

>

> Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

>

> So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

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[Guest guest]

Alida, I am so glad that your son is doing well. On the other hand, the

information that you have provided below is the opposite of the guidelines put

out by the top minds studying and treating OCD. OCD is NOT due to a child being

too dependent on a parent, but rather is a neurobiological disorder often passed

down genetically and this disorder causes the child to be so frightened or

overwhelmed that the child may become dependent as a result. ERP therapy, often

with specific medication that works for OCD, helps the majority of those with

OCD and is the recommended treatment. I have basically done very well despite

severe OCD and I have twins who inherited my OCD, but are doing well. In my

opinion, to tell parents to just say no to any OCD signs and symptoms, without

the child being given an understanding that he she has a biological disorder for

which there is specific treatment, is akin to telling a parent of a blind teen

to tell him to cross a street without teaching the child how to use a cane or

providing a seeing eye dog to enable the child to do it in a fashion that

reduces the terror and teaches the child how. Just as a child doesn't decide

one day to have OCD, OCD is not eliminated by demanding it's absence. If it

were that simple, then believe me few adults would have OCD. OCD is a

terrifying disorder that makes people feel stuck, helpless, hopeless, and unable

to function. With the help of a good therapist well-versed about OCD and its

treatment, the child will identify his fears, order them in how difficult they

are to face, and then slowly work their way up the ladder tackling these

fears/obsessions one by one. For me and my children, and from what I hear is

true for the majority of those with OCD, medication is necessary to lower our

belief in our fears so that we are able to allow ourselves to comply with the

treatment that we so desperately want and need. Empathy, positive feed back,

and sometimes understanding when it isn't time to push are all part of the

treatment. It is vital to our children's self-esteem that we preserve their

dignity while helping them to deal with their disorder through the best known

treatments available.

Will It Ever Stop?

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on to

other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years ago.

Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

[Guest guest]

Alida, I am so glad that your son is doing well. On the other hand, the

information that you have provided below is the opposite of the guidelines put

out by the top minds studying and treating OCD. OCD is NOT due to a child being

too dependent on a parent, but rather is a neurobiological disorder often passed

down genetically and this disorder causes the child to be so frightened or

overwhelmed that the child may become dependent as a result. ERP therapy, often

with specific medication that works for OCD, helps the majority of those with

OCD and is the recommended treatment. I have basically done very well despite

severe OCD and I have twins who inherited my OCD, but are doing well. In my

opinion, to tell parents to just say no to any OCD signs and symptoms, without

the child being given an understanding that he she has a biological disorder for

which there is specific treatment, is akin to telling a parent of a blind teen

to tell him to cross a street without teaching the child how to use a cane or

providing a seeing eye dog to enable the child to do it in a fashion that

reduces the terror and teaches the child how. Just as a child doesn't decide

one day to have OCD, OCD is not eliminated by demanding it's absence. If it

were that simple, then believe me few adults would have OCD. OCD is a

terrifying disorder that makes people feel stuck, helpless, hopeless, and unable

to function. With the help of a good therapist well-versed about OCD and its

treatment, the child will identify his fears, order them in how difficult they

are to face, and then slowly work their way up the ladder tackling these

fears/obsessions one by one. For me and my children, and from what I hear is

true for the majority of those with OCD, medication is necessary to lower our

belief in our fears so that we are able to allow ourselves to comply with the

treatment that we so desperately want and need. Empathy, positive feed back,

and sometimes understanding when it isn't time to push are all part of the

treatment. It is vital to our children's self-esteem that we preserve their

dignity while helping them to deal with their disorder through the best known

treatments available.

Will It Ever Stop?

It's been a couple of years since I've been here and boy things have changed,

but I haven't left.

Short story, and most on here who used to see my posts have probably gone on to

other pastures. Our daughter was diagnosed with OCD in 6th grade - 7 years ago.

Over the years it has morphed (whack-a-mole syndrome) into many, many other

areas.

Going through her teen years, she hated taking the meds (gets that trait from

her mom) and refused to participate in therapy. She's seen multiple

psychiatrists, has been on multiple meds (Prozac, Abilify, Zoloft) and we've

been through more counselors than I can remember.

Now she's 18 and in a college she chose, which she now hates (it's private and

very strict). She bagged the meds ( " I'm a big girl now... " ). Life &

responsibility on her own. College - big eye opener to an immature and

rebellious teen. It's not the utopian society she envisioned in her dreams.

Yeah, now she has to live with people she may not like that much, she still has

to work, and she can't blame her issues on anyone other than herself (FINALLY

(we) her parents get a respite from being responsible for every thing that goes

wrong).

She came home this weekend for R & R - not missing us mind you, just hates the

school and misses the comforts of home. And this is where it gets " fun " .

Saturday night, anxiety and OCD in full gear - she overdosed, on purpose, on the

Zoloft that she quit taking a couple of months earlier. Smart kid - knew it

wouldn't kill her (she's researched all the meds), but she was angry at her

anxiety and desperate, and in the spur of the moment, OD'd. Made her sick as a

dog, and 12 hours later (she hid it from us) we were in the ER getting IV fluids

and talking to a counselor, who turned out to be really good.

Good things - breakthroughs during Christmas break with us shed light on just

how miserable she is at school and with her anxiety, and another one this

weekend in the ER. She realized with great freedom comes great responsibility,

and it's hard. But shes hated living this way all of her life. She has decided,

on her own, that meds and therapy might be worth a shot. Yes, a breakthrough,

and she's done it on her own (same thing we tried to do for 5 years). She said

more to the counselor in the ER than she shared in all 5 years of " parental

mandated " therapy combined (where we were in control). She revealed that her OCD

is still definitely there and strong. Not the compulsive behaviors so much that

we knew 6 years ago, but the obsessive thoughts about a lot of things, like how

to deal with this anxiety. Anxiety, plus obsessive thoughts about the anxiety.

Wow, she withheld so much from us for so long. But now she's much more open

about it.

So, why am I writing? Not sure. Yeah, good stuff - some of it. But, she

overdosed, and is in a very fragile state right now. Anxiety always there,

unhappy at school, no meds, no therapist, low confidence in getting better (but

at least she's now open to it). If she can hang on we'll get there. But you all

know, finding good help is hard. Plus she's now legally an adult, and in

college, so we need new docs in far away places. In a good moment, she sees

potential. But OCD thoughts come soon, and all bets are off.

Do you know how hard it is to sit in an ER and listen to your child tell them

she did it on purpose? And then have someone come sit with you just to " monitor "

you (aka suicide watch)? Even though ending it was not her intent, they don't

know that (she went because she wanted to feel better and knew she screwed up).

Then we have to listen to them ask suicide/self harm based questions, and advise

that they can legally suggest she stay in here for 24 or 48 hours " if they think

it's best. God that's another type of pain we've not felt, and man we've been

through a lot. She/we did manage to convince them she wasn't suicidal, but

impulsive and obsessive about her anxiety, and we've been fighting it for a long

time. But we couldn't get away from the fact that our daughter was taking drug

tests (only positive on the Zoloft - thank God) and getting IV fluids to flush

the overdoes of meds. Oh life is so full of memories...

So we're searching for new docs in far away places, and ASAP. Wish us luck.

Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post!

[Guest guest]

Thanks jordana for shedding some light on this. Means even more since you have

been dealing with this your whole life. My mind was really going on the " too

dependent " part since I have gotten that message from teachers and other parents

during Roy's life. Also, I couldn't get past the fact that I have had

anxiety/depression my whole life, along with constant ruminating thoughts, and

my parents did not allow dependancy. Hereditary played pretty strong in my

present family with 3 of my kids needing anxiety/depression meds and 1 BP from

my dh. Anyway, I am glad you stepped up and shared accurate info.

in WI

Roy-17. Anxiety/depression/OCD. ADD. Prozac, Busbar, adderall.

>

> Alida, I am so glad that your son is doing well. On the other hand, the

information that you have provided below is the opposite of

[Guest guest]

, it is really easy to misunderstand OCD. Many years ago when I first

graduated college, I was overwhelmed completely by my OCD and unable to function

much at all. There was little understanding of OCD and no medication available.

Someone referred me to a psychologist who supposedly specialized in young

adults, and I drove into NYC, a particularly grueling thing for me back then

with my contamination fears to see him. When the consultation was finished he

wanted to hand me a card with the next appointment on it, and I didn't want to

take it. He rudely pronounced that this showed that I don't want

responsibility. I, too politely given how off that view was, explained, that I

had no problem with taking responsibility for getting to another appointment,

but I had contamination fears that made me not want to touch the card because of

the high level of anxiety it would provoke. It is so easy to misunderstand OCD

unless you have treated a lot of people with it, or have it yourself or your

kids have it and you educated yourself. Truthfully, while I was overly attached

to my parents, my personality is anything BUT dependent, as can be evidenced by

my being a single mom of twins. I conceived and have been raising them on my

own while working as a special ed teacher.

Re: Will It Ever Stop?

Thanks jordana for shedding some light on this. Means even more since you have

been dealing with this your whole life. My mind was really going on the " too

dependent " part since I have gotten that message from teachers and other parents

during Roy's life. Also, I couldn't get past the fact that I have had

anxiety/depression my whole life, along with constant ruminating thoughts, and

my parents did not allow dependancy. Hereditary played pretty strong in my

present family with 3 of my kids needing anxiety/depression meds and 1 BP from

my dh. Anyway, I am glad you stepped up and shared accurate info.

in WI

Roy-17. Anxiety/depression/OCD. ADD. Prozac, Busbar, adderall.

>

> Alida, I am so glad that your son is doing well. On the other hand, the

information that you have provided below is the opposite of

[Guest guest]

Yes, very misunderstood. Even at a recent family function (Roy was other table)

where everyone knows Roy is constantly struggling, an adult made a comment about

the dog being OCD and of course, laughter following. In my usual conversation

stopping manner, I told them that it is a very difficult and debilitating

condition.

Roy gets really tired of people saying they have OCD and laughing because of

something they do. Seems like people with mental illness are fair game for

ignorance and cruelty. Bad with my son with BP, who people want to stay away

from b/c he is so " weird " and they might catch it or something. Lucky they have

me on their team b/c I don't stand for it. in WI

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> > Alida, I am so glad that your son is doing well. On the other hand, the

information that you have provided below is the opposite of

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