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Hi ,

I am so sorry about your awful experience with this therapist! I'm glad you

realize that she is not going to help your son. We had started out with a bad

therapist also, who tried to blame me for some of my son's behaviors. She was

spending more time talking alone with me rather than talking with my son. When

I asked her when she was going to start ERP, she told me that talking with my

son about his thoughts WAS exposing him to the anxiety that went along with his

thoughts. I think that was our last appointment with her. It's amazing how a

therapist can say that they know how to treat OCD, etc, but they really don't.

I read everything I could find that was about OCD and intrusive thoughts. I

worked with my son on my own. I put him on inositol, which helped tremendously.

He did very well for a long while, but then the OCD started to flair up again.

My husband and I decided that we didn't want to waste time and money with a bad

therapist again. We're also in NJ, and I got a list from my insurance of

therapists that treat children with OCD. I called almost every one of them and

interviewed them over the phone. One didn't work with children; one wasn't

taking any new patients; one admitted to not being familiar with ERP; one said

they would only talk to me and not my son; one had a 6 month wait, etc. Every

call was a dead end.

I was so upset, feeling like there was no one that could help him. We decided

that we would do whatever it takes to get him GOOD help. I found someone from

the ocfoundation website and did a phone interview, and I had hope. No, she

doesn't accept any insurance. Yes, she's $175 a session. But wow, she is worth

every penny. We have a home equity line of credit, so we dipped into that to

pay her, and then submitted the bills to insurance to get a little of it

reimbursed. My son is fine again. He started middle school with absolutely no

problems. He was fine last month when I had to go into the hospital for major

surgery (one of his prior biggest fears).

Your son is still so young and could benefit tremendously from getting the right

help now. If you can find a way, it will be so worth it. I know my son could

(and most likely will) have future flair ups, but now I'm not so worried about

it, because we have someone who will be there for us to help him through it.

Best of luck to you. Hang in there, it will get better.

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Thanks ! You did provide the therapist name in a previous post, I did

contact her but she didn't take children as young as my son. She referred me to

http://www.stressandanxiety.com

I have left a message for them and fingers crossed they don't take 3-4 months to

get me in and will see my 6 year old.

Does anyone have experience with this place? It is located in East Brunswick,

NJ.

Thanks!

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I am so sorry about your awful experience with this therapist! I'm glad you

realize that she is not going to help your son. We had started out with a bad

therapist also, who tried to blame me for some of my son's behaviors. She was

spending more time talking alone with me rather than talking with my son. When

I asked her when she was going to start ERP, she told me that talking with my

son about his thoughts WAS exposing him to the anxiety that went along with his

thoughts. I think that was our last appointment with her. It's amazing how a

therapist can say that they know how to treat OCD, etc, but they really don't.

>

> I read everything I could find that was about OCD and intrusive thoughts. I

worked with my son on my own. I put him on inositol, which helped tremendously.

He did very well for a long while, but then the OCD started to flair up again.

My husband and I decided that we didn't want to waste time and money with a bad

therapist again. We're also in NJ, and I got a list from my insurance of

therapists that treat children with OCD. I called almost every one of them and

interviewed them over the phone. One didn't work with children; one wasn't

taking any new patients; one admitted to not being familiar with ERP; one said

they would only talk to me and not my son; one had a 6 month wait, etc. Every

call was a dead end.

>

> I was so upset, feeling like there was no one that could help him. We decided

that we would do whatever it takes to get him GOOD help. I found someone from

the ocfoundation website and did a phone interview, and I had hope. No, she

doesn't accept any insurance. Yes, she's $175 a session. But wow, she is worth

every penny. We have a home equity line of credit, so we dipped into that to

pay her, and then submitted the bills to insurance to get a little of it

reimbursed. My son is fine again. He started middle school with absolutely no

problems. He was fine last month when I had to go into the hospital for major

surgery (one of his prior biggest fears).

>

> Your son is still so young and could benefit tremendously from getting the

right help now. If you can find a way, it will be so worth it. I know my son

could (and most likely will) have future flair ups, but now I'm not so worried

about it, because we have someone who will be there for us to help him through

it.

>

> Best of luck to you. Hang in there, it will get better.

>

>

>

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Wow, , your email broke my heart...and made me pissed as hell about your

so-called therapist! I mean, what is this the middle ages? It honestly boggles

my mind that in this day and age therapists don't understand that OCD is a

neurological condition--not an indication of " bad parenting " . Did she actually

use the word " psychopath " ? If so, I'd write a letter of complaint to your

state's medical licensing board. That therapist's behavior was beyond

ignorant--it was downright unethical.

 

My 12-year-old daughter with OCD has been receiving weekly CBT for the past year

with excellent results. Though she was diagnosed at 11, there were definitely

signs by age 7. Like your son, she has intrusive thoughts which frighten and

disturb her. Though her psychologist gives my husband and I some pointers from

time to time, she is always 100% supportive of and empathetic to us--never

blames or criticizes us, or our daughter. And during rough spells, she's my

daughter's lifeline--my daughter is able to call/text/email her anytime, even in

the middle of the night.

 

Good for you for ditching that shoddy therapist! Obviously she was on some power

trip, how she scolded you for watching the DVD without her permission. We

started off with a bad one too: when my daugher was 9 she saw a social worker

who tried to extract information from my daughter with leading questions,

assuming the OCD was caused by some dark secret my child was hiding. My daughter

hated going to see this woman as she felt interrogated and put on the

spot. So after a few sessions of that, I finally educated myself on OCD, and

how it is a neurobiological brain malfunction. That the instusive thoughts

aren't an indication of being a " psychopath " --they're just scary thoughts that

get stuck in an OCD brain. Has your son read " What to do when your brain gets

stuck " ? Might be helpful. Have you read Tamar Chansky's book, " Freeing Your

Child From OCD " ? If not, I highly recommend it!

 

I'm sure you'll find a good therapist for your son--you're on the right path.

Best of luck & take care!

 

Jen (Chicago, IL)

________________________________

To:

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:44 AM

Subject: Therapist Update

 

Hello,

I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss using a

different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she diagnosed

with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I needed a

new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I could have

been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program without her

permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to her about

that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has been

afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is like

what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a different

kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him to stand up

for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to hurt the

other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble. He was

always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing people

all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because he was

afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this diagnoses

of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this intrusive

thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue where she

would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to our last

session where she

got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to where he sat. That is the

only time I could say that he gave her any type of hard time. I have never

spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive thoughts and what affect they

were having on him.

Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with her,

is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting to

him to keep thinking about this stuff.

Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a family

session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked her how

she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could help

him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did God

make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to figure

out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist, seems that

NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4 months.

Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without insurance

help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money for 45

minutes?

Sad and confused

(NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

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Run fast away from that therapist. She knows nothing about OCD. You need a

specialist in very young children with OCD. This can be very hard to find

especially if you live in a rural or smaller area. Consider intensive

outpatient treatment at a pediatric OCD center or enroll in a scype therapy

study with a pediatric OCD center where they see a lot of young children with

OCD. My son was dx at age 3 ( now 15) and my biggest regret is that we did not

go WAY out of our way to find expert help early- we made do with what we had in

the area and wasted years of his life and got us all completely exhausted and

despondent. Expert help makes all the difference in the world.

If you are interviewing therapists, ask them what technique they use for OCD.

If they say anything except CBT/ ERP ( Cognitive Behavioral Therapy/ Exposure

Response prevention) then hang up and don't schedule an appointment.

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I know you are probably tired of hearing this but " Hang in There " . There is

hope! I sure wish that you lived in NC. We go to Duke which is an hour and 15

minutes away to a clinic that specializes in child behavioral health and I have

to pay out of pocket for insurance reasons but it is so worth it. And even out

of pocket I pay $70 per session usually, unless we have to discuss a medication.

Admittedly though, I felt totally overwhelmed even with this when we started,

but now it just seems like it is like any other bill that I have to pay and my

child had a great appointment yesterday. We started in September and things

have improved remarkably. She is no longer even on an SSRI.

I now know why therapists got stuck with the name " quacks " . Because there are a

lot of them out there that don't know what the heck they are doing and that are

loonier than any of their patients will ever be. Sounds like you got one of

those " quacks " . I pray that you will find good help soon. In the meantime, if

you can find the time to read " Brain Lock " , maybe it would help you to

understand what is going on with him a little more. I know this isn't much, but

I hope it helps. I am also on the OCDTribe forum. Most of the people on that

forum have OCD themselves and I have found some of their input to be helpful.

>

> Hello,

>

> I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss using

a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

>

> Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

>

> We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program without

her permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to her

about that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

>

> She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has been

afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is like

what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a different

kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him to stand

up for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to hurt the

other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble. He was

always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing

people all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because

he was afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this

diagnoses of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this

intrusive thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue

where she would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to

our last session where she got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to

where he sat. That is the only time I could say that he gave her any type of

hard time. I have never spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive

thoughts and what affect they were having on him.

>

> Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with her,

is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting to

him to keep thinking about this stuff.

>

> Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a family

session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked her how

she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

>

> I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could

help him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did

God make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

>

> I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to figure

out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist, seems that

NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4 months.

Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without insurance

help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money for 45

minutes?

>

> Sad and confused

>

>

> (NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

>

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Wow, that therapist! Just think of those poor people who continue to see her!

Sigh, she is so inexperienced/ignorant about OCD. Have you seen this yet:

http://www.njocf.org/professional-directory.html

There's a Support Group list/link to the left of the above page.

Guess you did a search for therapists at the OCD Foundation website?

Oh, I'd have been crying too once the shock wore off! I know it feels like

wasted time and so it's back to being more overwhelming. (((hugs))) You all

can read and try to work on things on your own until then. Children's books may

help him get some comfort, sharing with him what you learn about OCD.... A

worry box helps some children (or a " thought " box), writing it down and putting

it in the box (can decorate one, create one...) and sometimes that helps enough;

but scheduling a time or two each day to reach in and pick out a few

worries/thoughts to read (if they have the HAVE TO TELL MOM type/confessions)

also has helped some, limiting how many they share over time....

Quick thoughts,

>

> Hello,

>

> I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss using

a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

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I am so sorry that you are going through this. What a quack!!!! Have you tried

calling the director of the OC Foundation for a possible more personal referral

for your son? Also, you could try writing to Dr. Jenike of the OCD list to see

if he knows of anyone near you who is good. Have you tried one of the major

teaching hospitals? I take my kids to the kids' anxiety center of a major

hospital's psychiatric place near me.

Therapist Update

Hello,

I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss using a

different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she diagnosed

with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I needed a

new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I could have

been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program without her

permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to her about

that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has been

afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is like

what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a different

kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him to stand

up for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to hurt the

other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble. He was

always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing

people all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because

he was afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this

diagnoses of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this

intrusive thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue

where she would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to

our last session where she got in to a pow er struggle with my son in regards to

where he sat. That is the only time I could say that he gave her any type of

hard time. I have never spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive

thoughts and what affect they were having on him.

Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with her,

is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting to

him to keep thinking about this stuff.

Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a family

session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked her how

she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could help

him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did God

make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to figure

out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist, seems that

NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4 months.

Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without insurance

help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money for 45

minutes?

Sad and confused

(NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

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I just looked at that website and it looks terrific! I love that Dr. Jenike

endorsed a book there because Dr. J is the doctor I most respect with regard to

OCD treatment. He is on the OCD yahoo group if you want to email him there. I

also like that they have taken the OCD training from the OC Foundation so they

must know about the best way to treat OCD.

Re: Therapist Update

Thanks ! You did provide the therapist name in a previous post, I did

contact her but she didn't take children as young as my son. She referred me to

http://www.stressandanxiety.com

I have left a message for them and fingers crossed they don't take 3-4 months to

get me in and will see my 6 year old.

Does anyone have experience with this place? It is located in East Brunswick,

NJ.

Thanks!

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I am so sorry about your awful experience with this therapist! I'm glad you

realize that she is not going to help your son. We had started out with a bad

therapist also, who tried to blame me for some of my son's behaviors. She was

spending more time talking alone with me rather than talking with my son. When

I asked her when she was going to start ERP, she told me that talking with my

son about his thoughts WAS exposing him to the anxiety that went along with his

thoughts. I think that was our last appointment with her. It's amazing how a

therapist can say that they know how to treat OCD, etc, but they really don't.

>

> I read everything I could find that was about OCD and intrusive thoughts. I

worked with my son on my own. I put him on inositol, which helped tremendously.

He did very well for a long while, but then the OCD started to flair up again.

My husband and I decided that we didn't want to waste time and money with a bad

therapist again. We're also in NJ, and I got a list from my insurance of

therapists that treat children with OCD. I called almost every one of them and

interviewed them over the phone. One didn't work with children; one wasn't

taking any new patients; one admitted to not being familiar with ERP; one said

they would only talk to me and not my son; one had a 6 month wait, etc. Every

call was a dead end.

>

> I was so upset, feeling like there was no one that could help him. We decided

that we would do whatever it takes to get him GOOD help. I found someone from

the ocfoundation website and did a phone interview, and I had hope. No, she

doesn't accept any insurance. Yes, she's $175 a session. But wow, she is worth

every penny. We have a home equity line of credit, so we dipped into that to

pay her, and then submitted the bills to insurance to get a little of it

reimbursed. My son is fine again. He started middle school with absolutely no

problems. He was fine last month when I had to go into the hospital for major

surgery (one of his prior biggest fears).

>

> Your son is still so young and could benefit tremendously from getting the

right help now. If you can find a way, it will be so worth it. I know my son

could (and most likely will) have future flair ups, but now I'm not so worried

about it, because we have someone who will be there for us to help him through

it.

>

> Best of luck to you. Hang in there, it will get better.

>

>

>

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Jen's response reminded me of something that happened to us earlier. We also

had a bad therapist who was listed under my insurance provider as specializing

in CBT. She ended up giving us the run around and pawning us off to another

person (who I am not even sure was a licensed therapist) in her group. When I

asked this person if she could administer CBT therapy she didn't know what it

was. I was so angry and ticked off and I felt that I was put on the spot.

So when I left, I wrote them a letter explaining to them how unprofessional

their treatment was and how I had clearly explained the therapy we were seeking

when I made the initial appointment (which by the way I had requested over email

so I had it in writing). I requested a refund for the two appointments that we

attended.

The therapist wrote me a letter back defending their actions but they gave me my

refund. Maybe you should do something like that. I know it won't replace the

time that has been wasted, but maybe just maybe you could get your money back.

Threaten to go to the medical board and you will probably get a refund.

>

> Wow, , your email broke my heart...and made me pissed as hell about your

so-called therapist! I mean, what is this the middle ages? It honestly boggles

my mind that in this day and age therapists don't understand that OCD is a

neurological condition--not an indication of " bad parenting " . Did she actually

use the word " psychopath " ? If so, I'd write a letter of complaint to your

state's medical licensing board. That therapist's behavior was beyond

ignorant--it was downright unethical.

>  

> My 12-year-old daughter with OCD has been receiving weekly CBT for the past

year with excellent results. Though she was diagnosed at 11, there were

definitely signs by age 7. Like your son, she has intrusive thoughts which

frighten and disturb her. Though her psychologist gives my husband and I some

pointers from time to time, she is always 100% supportive of and empathetic to

us--never blames or criticizes us, or our daughter. And during rough spells,

she's my daughter's lifeline--my daughter is able to call/text/email her

anytime, even in the middle of the night.

>  

> Good for you for ditching that shoddy therapist! Obviously she was on some

power trip, how she scolded you for watching the DVD without her permission. We

started off with a bad one too: when my daugher was 9 she saw a social worker

who tried to extract information from my daughter with leading questions,

assuming the OCD was caused by some dark secret my child was hiding. My daughter

hated going to see this woman as she felt interrogated and put on the

spot. So after a few sessions of that, I finally educated myself on OCD, and

how it is a neurobiological brain malfunction. That the instusive thoughts

aren't an indication of being a " psychopath " --they're just scary thoughts that

get stuck in an OCD brain. Has your son read " What to do when your brain gets

stuck " ? Might be helpful. Have you read Tamar Chansky's book, " Freeing Your

Child From OCD " ? If not, I highly recommend it!

>  

> I'm sure you'll find a good therapist for your son--you're on the right path.

Best of luck & take care!

>  

> Jen (Chicago, IL)

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:44 AM

> Subject: Therapist Update

>

>

>  

> Hello,

>

> I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss using

a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

>

> Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

>

> We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program without

her permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to her

about that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

>

> She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has been

afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is like

what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a different

kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him to stand up

for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to hurt the

other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble. He was

always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing people

all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because he was

afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this diagnoses

of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this intrusive

thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue where she

would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to our last

session where she

> got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to where he sat. That is

the only time I could say that he gave her any type of hard time. I have never

spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive thoughts and what affect they

were having on him.

>

> Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with her,

is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting to

him to keep thinking about this stuff.

>

> Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a family

session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked her how

she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

>

> I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could

help him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did

God make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

>

> I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to figure

out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist, seems that

NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4 months.

Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without insurance

help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money for 45

minutes?

>

> Sad and confused

>

>

> (NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

>

>

>

>

>

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I agree with . Writing the letter will give you an outlet for your

anger/frustrations/hurt. I personally went through something with a

psychologist, who temporarily lost his license and charged with a crime. Still

with all of my work, he later did the same crime with another woman before he

lost his license for good. I did not get a response initially from the clinic so

I wrote a letter, copied it to all of the doctors on the board and delivered

them to the clinic. They did meet with us. It still took about 6 months before

they removed him from the clinic. I went to several therapists for help on

trying to get this reported to the licensing board. I also went to the police

and had to file a report. I didn't realize that there are so many incompetent

therapists/psychologists out there wreaking havoc on people's lives. Also, I

found help in unlikely places( support services in the community). I have to say

it takes a lot of energy out of you, so you have to decide how much energy you

have for you, your family, and righting a wrong.

> >

> > Wow, , your email broke my heart...and made me pissed as hell about

your so-called therapist! I mean, what is this the middle ages? It honestly

boggles my mind that in this day and age therapists don't understand that OCD is

a neurological condition--not an indication of " bad parenting " . Did she actually

use the word " psychopath " ? If so, I'd write a letter of complaint to your

state's medical licensing board. That therapist's behavior was beyond

ignorant--it was downright unethical.

> >  

> > My 12-year-old daughter with OCD has been receiving weekly CBT for the past

year with excellent results. Though she was diagnosed at 11, there were

definitely signs by age 7. Like your son, she has intrusive thoughts which

frighten and disturb her. Though her psychologist gives my husband and I some

pointers from time to time, she is always 100% supportive of and empathetic to

us--never blames or criticizes us, or our daughter. And during rough spells,

she's my daughter's lifeline--my daughter is able to call/text/email her

anytime, even in the middle of the night.

> >  

> > Good for you for ditching that shoddy therapist! Obviously she was on some

power trip, how she scolded you for watching the DVD without her permission. We

started off with a bad one too: when my daugher was 9 she saw a social worker

who tried to extract information from my daughter with leading questions,

assuming the OCD was caused by some dark secret my child was hiding. My daughter

hated going to see this woman as she felt interrogated and put on the

spot. So after a few sessions of that, I finally educated myself on OCD, and

how it is a neurobiological brain malfunction. That the instusive thoughts

aren't an indication of being a " psychopath " --they're just scary thoughts that

get stuck in an OCD brain. Has your son read " What to do when your brain gets

stuck " ? Might be helpful. Have you read Tamar Chansky's book, " Freeing Your

Child From OCD " ? If not, I highly recommend it!

> >  

> > I'm sure you'll find a good therapist for your son--you're on the right

path. Best of luck & take care!

> >  

> > Jen (Chicago, IL)

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: tibfoxx <kellytib@>

> > To:

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:44 AM

> > Subject: Therapist Update

> >

> >

> >  

> > Hello,

> >

> > I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss

using a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

> >

> > Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

> >

> > We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program without

her permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to her

about that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

> >

> > She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has

been afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is

like what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a

different kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him

to stand up for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to

hurt the other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble.

He was always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing

people all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because

he was afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this

diagnoses of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this

intrusive thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue

where she would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to

our last session where she

> > got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to where he sat. That is

the only time I could say that he gave her any type of hard time. I have never

spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive thoughts and what affect they

were having on him.

> >

> > Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with

her, is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting

to him to keep thinking about this stuff.

> >

> > Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a family

session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked her how

she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

> >

> > I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could

help him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did

God make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

> >

> > I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to

figure out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist,

seems that NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4

months. Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without

insurance help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money

for 45 minutes?

> >

> > Sad and confused

> >

> >

> > (NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you all so much for the support. Besides that the fact it breaks my heart

that my son has OCD, it scares me how people who don't know anything about this

disease could totally misunderstand him. Even a therapist who should know

better, thought the worst of my son.

I am his mother, trying hard to educate myself and my family about morbid

intrusive thoughts, and there are times that I still ask.. how could he be

thinking this stuff all day, he is only 6. I saw the look of shock and horror

when I had a family meeting and I shared with them what he was going through.

The sheer disbelief that their grandchild and nephew could think these awful

things was almost too much to bear. It wouldn't be easier if it was a different

form of OCD, but I think he would get more understanding and compassion.

But on the bright side, I did get an appointment with the Stress and Anxiety for

next Tuesday. Dr. Weg called me last night and we spoke about what my son

was dealing with. He assigned us to Haines, who I spoke with today. I

feel since she attended the program sponsored by the OCD foundation, I must be

in better hands. Hopeful that she can help my guy so he can have some peach

with himself.

Question, what type of CBT do they use for morbid intrusive thoughts? I know I

have seen many posts about children/teens that have these. Just curious so I

can be prepared. I was so excited to talk to Haines today, that I totally

forgot to ask that question.

Thanks again!

> > >

> > > Wow, , your email broke my heart...and made me pissed as hell about

your so-called therapist! I mean, what is this the middle ages? It honestly

boggles my mind that in this day and age therapists don't understand that OCD is

a neurological condition--not an indication of " bad parenting " . Did she actually

use the word " psychopath " ? If so, I'd write a letter of complaint to your

state's medical licensing board. That therapist's behavior was beyond

ignorant--it was downright unethical.

> > >  

> > > My 12-year-old daughter with OCD has been receiving weekly CBT for the

past year with excellent results. Though she was diagnosed at 11, there were

definitely signs by age 7. Like your son, she has intrusive thoughts which

frighten and disturb her. Though her psychologist gives my husband and I some

pointers from time to time, she is always 100% supportive of and empathetic to

us--never blames or criticizes us, or our daughter. And during rough spells,

she's my daughter's lifeline--my daughter is able to call/text/email her

anytime, even in the middle of the night.

> > >  

> > > Good for you for ditching that shoddy therapist! Obviously she was on some

power trip, how she scolded you for watching the DVD without her permission. We

started off with a bad one too: when my daugher was 9 she saw a social worker

who tried to extract information from my daughter with leading questions,

assuming the OCD was caused by some dark secret my child was hiding. My daughter

hated going to see this woman as she felt interrogated and put on the

spot. So after a few sessions of that, I finally educated myself on OCD, and

how it is a neurobiological brain malfunction. That the instusive thoughts

aren't an indication of being a " psychopath " --they're just scary thoughts that

get stuck in an OCD brain. Has your son read " What to do when your brain gets

stuck " ? Might be helpful. Have you read Tamar Chansky's book, " Freeing Your

Child From OCD " ? If not, I highly recommend it!

> > >  

> > > I'm sure you'll find a good therapist for your son--you're on the right

path. Best of luck & take care!

> > >  

> > > Jen (Chicago, IL)

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: tibfoxx <kellytib@>

> > > To:

> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:44 AM

> > > Subject: Therapist Update

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss

using a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

> > >

> > > Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

> > >

> > > We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program

without her permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to

her about that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

> > >

> > > She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has

been afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is

like what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a

different kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him

to stand up for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to

hurt the other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble.

He was always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing

people all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because

he was afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this

diagnoses of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this

intrusive thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue

where she would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to

our last session where she

> > > got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to where he sat. That

is the only time I could say that he gave her any type of hard time. I have

never spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive thoughts and what affect

they were having on him.

> > >

> > > Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with

her, is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting

to him to keep thinking about this stuff.

> > >

> > > Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a

family session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked

her how she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

> > >

> > > I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could

help him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did

God make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

> > >

> > > I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to

figure out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist,

seems that NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4

months. Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without

insurance help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money

for 45 minutes?

> > >

> > > Sad and confused

> > >

> > >

> > > (NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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, that's wonderful that you got an appointment so soon AND I'm expecting to

hear wonderful things about Ms. Haines/therapist! YAY!

As to educating yourself and difficulty finding help - I worked at our county

mental health center (office staff) for years, we are sorta rural. Anyway, they

had no one trained to really treat OCD, wasn't a need for it. In other words,

didn't get enough people diagnosed with it to bother sending anyone to training

on it (always watching that budget).

They got the basics of the " how to. " CBT is used for more than OCD, that is why

we have to make sure they grasp OCD and that they are experienced and CBT is

*specific* to OCD, as CBT is used for depression and other illnesses too.

Really I ended up knowing more about how to treat OCD than anyone there. Not

that they asked me anything, LOL, but I felt like an expert after a while as I

learned more and dealt with my son.

As to how they might work on the thoughts, here is a link to a newsletter Dr.

Chansky had that may help:

http://www.worrywisekids.org/newsletter/08_06_print.html

>

> Thank you all so much for the support. Besides that the fact it breaks my

heart that my son has OCD, it scares me how people who don't know anything about

this disease could totally misunderstand him. Even a therapist who should know

better, thought the worst of my son.

>

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Amy has intrusive/morbid thoughts too. She has had them for over five years

now, and I didn't even realize it was OCD until she started her rituals (mostly

hand-washing). Like the article that posted, her doctor has told her to

try to recognize that is OCD being bossy and to say that is just the OCD

talking. She has taught her some techniques to help get her through it like

breathing exercises and there is one where she closes her eyes and imagines warm

water flowing over her from her head to her toes. She is doing exposures also,

like going into the bathroom and touching things and not being allowed to wash

her hands. Part of hers though is sexual in nature and she absolutely refuses

to talk about it. At some point though, we are going to have to talk about it.

We are just not there yet. I will tell you though that she has come a long way

already...since September. She still has intrusive thoughts and probably always

will, but she is starting to manage them without rituals and without me helping

her. She is also off of her SSRI now.

As for that feeling, about, " why is my kid thinking these things? " I think we

all feel that from time to time. I know I do. Although, I have some intrusive

thoughts myself just maybe not to this degree. I also know what you mean about

that look you get when you tell your close family members. I think there just

isn't enough education about OCD. I am seriously thinking of using my facebook

and blog to try to educate people about OCD. I just haven't decided how

personal to get about it, because if I do, then I am exposing Amy and I need to

make sure that if I do that, that she is okay with it.

> > > >

> > > > Wow, , your email broke my heart...and made me pissed as hell about

your so-called therapist! I mean, what is this the middle ages? It honestly

boggles my mind that in this day and age therapists don't understand that OCD is

a neurological condition--not an indication of " bad parenting " . Did she actually

use the word " psychopath " ? If so, I'd write a letter of complaint to your

state's medical licensing board. That therapist's behavior was beyond

ignorant--it was downright unethical.

> > > >  

> > > > My 12-year-old daughter with OCD has been receiving weekly CBT for the

past year with excellent results. Though she was diagnosed at 11, there were

definitely signs by age 7. Like your son, she has intrusive thoughts which

frighten and disturb her. Though her psychologist gives my husband and I some

pointers from time to time, she is always 100% supportive of and empathetic to

us--never blames or criticizes us, or our daughter. And during rough spells,

she's my daughter's lifeline--my daughter is able to call/text/email her

anytime, even in the middle of the night.

> > > >  

> > > > Good for you for ditching that shoddy therapist! Obviously she was on

some power trip, how she scolded you for watching the DVD without her

permission. We started off with a bad one too: when my daugher was 9 she saw a

social worker who tried to extract information from my daughter with leading

questions, assuming the OCD was caused by some dark secret my child was hiding.

My daughter hated going to see this woman as she felt interrogated and put on

the spot. So after a few sessions of that, I finally educated myself on OCD,

and how it is a neurobiological brain malfunction. That the instusive thoughts

aren't an indication of being a " psychopath " --they're just scary thoughts that

get stuck in an OCD brain. Has your son read " What to do when your brain gets

stuck " ? Might be helpful. Have you read Tamar Chansky's book, " Freeing Your

Child From OCD " ? If not, I highly recommend it!

> > > >  

> > > > I'm sure you'll find a good therapist for your son--you're on the right

path. Best of luck & take care!

> > > >  

> > > > Jen (Chicago, IL)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: tibfoxx <kellytib@>

> > > > To:

> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:44 AM

> > > > Subject: Therapist Update

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss

using a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

> > > >

> > > > Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

> > > >

> > > > We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program

without her permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to

her about that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

> > > >

> > > > She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath,

has been afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband

is like what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a

different kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him

to stand up for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to

hurt the other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble.

He was always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing

people all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because

he was afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this

diagnoses of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this

intrusive thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue

where she would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to

our last session where she

> > > > got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to where he sat. That

is the only time I could say that he gave her any type of hard time. I have

never spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive thoughts and what affect

they were having on him.

> > > >

> > > > Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through

with her, is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very

upsetting to him to keep thinking about this stuff.

> > > >

> > > > Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a

family session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked

her how she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

> > > >

> > > > I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist

could help him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said

Why did God make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know

why he can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing

back his OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he

is going to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

> > > >

> > > > I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to

figure out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist,

seems that NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4

months. Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without

insurance help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money

for 45 minutes?

> > > >

> > > > Sad and confused

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > (NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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A lesson learned....when something doesn't seem or feel right, RUN! You are in

tune with your son, you know what seems plausible even though you're not a

therapist. I know that when symptoms peak, you feel scared and in need of

direction, but don't let that interfere with your intuition.

If your therapist can't get beyond the fact that you started without her, it's

time for someone different. Rest assured there will be many bumps in the road

and if you get chastised for everything, it'll be hard to develop a working

relationship. Don't be afraid to speak up and assert your intuitions. You will

learn things along the way by simply going through the process/system that will

help you make good decisions. know one knows your child as you do

Bonnie

>

> Hello,

>

> I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss using

a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

>

> Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

>

> We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program without

her permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to her

about that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

>

> She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has been

afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is like

what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a different

kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him to stand

up for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to hurt the

other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble. He was

always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing

people all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because

he was afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this

diagnoses of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this

intrusive thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue

where she would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to

our last session where she got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to

where he sat. That is the only time I could say that he gave her any type of

hard time. I have never spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive

thoughts and what affect they were having on him.

>

> Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with her,

is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting to

him to keep thinking about this stuff.

>

> Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a family

session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked her how

she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

>

> I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could

help him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did

God make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

>

> I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to figure

out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist, seems that

NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4 months.

Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without insurance

help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money for 45

minutes?

>

> Sad and confused

>

>

> (NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

>

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A lesson learned....when something doesn't seem or feel right, RUN! You are in

tune with your son, you know what seems plausible even though you're not a

therapist. I know that when symptoms peak, you feel scared and in need of

direction, but don't let that interfere with your intuition.

If your therapist can't get beyond the fact that you started without her, it's

time for someone different. Rest assured there will be many bumps in the road

and if you get chastised for everything, it'll be hard to develop a working

relationship. Don't be afraid to speak up and assert your intuitions. You will

learn things along the way by simply going through the process/system that will

help you make good decisions. know one knows your child as you do

Bonnie

>

> Hello,

>

> I had posted that my therapist wanted to see my husband and I to discuss using

a different technique to discipline our son, aged 6, who at the time she

diagnosed with OCD (intrusive thoughts). I was truly confused why she thought I

needed a new system, since we NEVER discussed what system our house used. I

could have been using 123 Magic all along and she wouldn't have known.

>

> Well... my husband and I watched the movie she requested. Found the DVD

insightful and figured it was interesting enough for us to try. Actually turns

out, I like it.

>

> We go to the therapist, she reprimanded me for starting the program without

her permission..ok.. didn't realize I needed her permission. We talk to her

about that. Then I ask, OK--now what are you going to do to help my son?

>

> She then proceeds to tell my husband and I that my son is psychopath, has been

afraid of himself and his anger issues since an early age. My husband is like

what? Our son is totally different since this all started, he is a different

kid. In years past he would get picked on, my husband would tell him to stand

up for himself and our sweet boy would tell us that he didn't want to hurt the

other kids feelings, or he didn't want to get the other kid in trouble. He was

always kind, a very sweet kid. Now, he sits around thinking about killing

people all day. She says, he was always so thoughtful and nice to others because

he was afraid to unleash his inner hate and rage... SAY WHAT? She makes this

diagnoses of my son after seeing him 3x's. We have only ever talked about this

intrusive thoughts, I have been in this therapy appointments and I have no clue

where she would come up with that diagnoses. I had a previous post in regards to

our last session where she got in to a power struggle with my son in regards to

where he sat. That is the only time I could say that he gave her any type of

hard time. I have never spoken to her at about anything but his intrusive

thoughts and what affect they were having on him.

>

> Again asked her, although I knew at this point I was totally through with her,

is there anyway she can help my son with his thoughts. It is very upsetting to

him to keep thinking about this stuff.

>

> Her response, well come back in a month as a family and we'll have a family

session about setting limits and rules in your house. My husband asked her how

she knows what are rules are, and why she decided that we need help with

that...and how was that going to help our son... her response was basically..

well you couldn't have raised a child like this unless there was a break down in

the household.

>

> I left crying.. just wasted 2 months trying to see if this therapist could

help him. Back to square 1, my son yesterday just looked at me and said Why did

God make him this way? He just wants to be back to normal, wants to know why he

can't he stop thinking about these things. Talked to him about bossing back his

OCD and just hugged him and told him that he is a good boy and that he is going

to get through this that I love him. Really, what else can I do?

>

> I am really just venting... up another night with insomnia.. trying to figure

out what I can do to help my child. Spent all day calling therapist, seems that

NJ is in the need of therapist who can see children sooner then 3-4 months.

Trying to figure out how my husband I can pay for therapy without insurance

help.. costs about 150-200 a pop in NJ. Who is worth that much money for 45

minutes?

>

> Sad and confused

>

>

> (NJ-6 year old son with OCD)

>

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