Guest guest Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Hi. My little girl was diagnosed with ADD and OCD this year (ADD by a medical doctor and OCD by a therapist). Our school's child study team met and we wrote down accomodations for this school year... I made visual schedule for the teacher, the therapist gave suggestions that were followed, and the teacher is an awesome lady who learned to read my daughter's signs. NOW it is the end of the year and I am extremely anxious about next year. Next year there will be more standardized testing and changing classes. I think my daughter needs a 504. This seems to be a bad word in my district....I am putting on the gloves though and will fight this for her. My question for you guys... the director of special ed told me that OCD was not a disability but was more of a conduct disorder and would not qualify for a 504. I would have to show/argue that the ADD was the problem.... AS yall know the co-morbidity of both is the real problem, but the OCD is more seriously affecting her performance....SO How did you guys get a 504? Did you face opposition??? I need any and all advice. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi I am extremely familiar with 504 as that what I do as a spec Ed coordinator in a district. You can get a 504 with a medical diagnosis. Then how that diagnosis adversely effects or impairs his learning Sent from my iPhone > Hi. My little girl was diagnosed with ADD and OCD this year (ADD by a medical doctor and OCD by a therapist). Our school's child study team met and we wrote down accomodations for this school year... I made visual schedule for the teacher, the therapist gave suggestions that were followed, and the teacher is an awesome lady who learned to read my daughter's signs. NOW it is the end of the year and I am extremely anxious about next year. Next year there will be more standardized testing and changing classes. I think my daughter needs a 504. This seems to be a bad word in my district....I am putting on the gloves though and will fight this for her. > My question for you guys... the director of special ed told me that OCD was not a disability but was more of a conduct disorder and would not qualify for a 504. I would have to show/argue that the ADD was the problem.... AS yall know the co-morbidity of both is the real problem, but the OCD is more seriously affecting her performance....SO How did you guys get a 504? Did you face opposition??? I need any and all advice. > > Thanks, > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > Charlize Theron's racy body-hugging dress > Privacy Policy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Exactly correct - its IS INDEED a medical condition. The Child MD can easiy write a letter - it should be fairly straightforward. It's surprising to me that a Director of Special Ed - wouldn't understand that...CONDUCT DISORDER....Wow...he needs to be educated... I'd be happy to send him lots of research! > > Hi. My little girl was diagnosed with ADD and OCD this year (ADD by a medical doctor and OCD by a therapist). Our school's child study team met and we wrote down accomodations for this school year... I made visual schedule for the teacher, the therapist gave suggestions that were followed, and the teacher is an awesome lady who learned to read my daughter's signs. NOW it is the end of the year and I am extremely anxious about next year. Next year there will be more standardized testing and changing classes. I think my daughter needs a 504. This seems to be a bad word in my district....I am putting on the gloves though and will fight this for her. > My question for you guys... the director of special ed told me that OCD was not a disability but was more of a conduct disorder and would not qualify for a 504. I would have to show/argue that the ADD was the problem.... AS yall know the co-morbidity of both is the real problem, but the OCD is more seriously affecting her performance....SO How did you guys get a 504? Did you face opposition??? I need any and all advice. > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Our son has a diagnosis of OCD- starting in 1st grade. He is now is 3rd grade. We began using a 504 plan last year and I do recommend it. Any parent can request the school district hold a meeting to determine eligibility. It has been a wonderful process for our family, and provide accommodations for students who do not qualify for special education services. My thoughts for other parents to consider- 1. You can invite outside resource persons. We invited our private social worker, since he gave the initial diagnosis. We did not want to be sitting in the meeting with the group challenging his diagnosis. This gave us credibility. The second year we also invited our private OT. It costs us to pay for these people to attend the meeting, but this is a worthwhile investment. I believe that school personnel are more cooperative when discussing a child in front of outside professionals- everyone is on their best behavior. Also, both my husband and I attend these meetings. It helps to bring advocates rather than try to navigate this alone. 2. We have an in school social worker. You can get social work without a 504 plan- in our district you just make a request and sign a permission form. The school social worker is an outstanding in-school advocate for our son. They help with teacher placement, and can talk to teachers on behalf of our child. Build a team- the more people working together to support you, the better! 3. Our experience has shown us that building a team and having regular meetings- at least once a year- has made an enormous difference. The classroom teacher has permission to call the private social worker or OT to get suggestions. The 504 plan gives you some protection if the teachers change from year to year and new faces are less accommodating. We don't have huge accommodations listed on the 504, but it does allow for special support during transitions, for time getting his questions and concerns resolved, and check lists on his desk at school, as well as special consideration for who he will be placed with in each year's homeroom- which is the BEST ACCOMMODATION EVER!!!! 4. Teachers treat a kid differently if they understand the bigger picture- rather than getting irritated, they are concerned and supportive. Hope this is helpful, good luck. Tara- Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 , look in our FILES section for school related info. We have a " OCD and School Personnel " type document. We also have a document from Dr. that is talking about keeping a 504 Plan in place for a child with OCD due to the waxing & waning of OCD (i.e., may not always need to use 504 accommodations if OCD has " waned " ). Also Dr. has a great book out about OCD and school: http://ocdhandbook.com/bookoverview/ That said, that director of special ed needs an education! The child can have a 504 or an IEP, depending on his/her needs and how OCD is affecting their education and school environment. We were fine with a 504 Plan, there weren't any services under " special ed " that we needed for . (Special Ed services come under an IEP). School have differed under what category they put a child with OCD, some use the Other Health Impaired (OHI) in the IEP, but I've seen them fall under others. OCD is a mental illness and that does fall under 504's and IEPs. Here's a portion of a document about 504's: 12. What is a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits a major life activity? .......or any mental or psychological disorder, such as mental retardation, organic brain syndrome, emotional or mental illness, and specific learning disabilities. The regulatory provision does not set forth an exhaustive list of specific diseases and conditions that may constitute physical or mental impairments because of the difficulty of ensuring the comprehensiveness of such a list. http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html Heck, conduct disorder qualifies for either. I'd go over that director's head and call and ask the school district's special ed or 504 Coordinator. You'll need to point our ways that either/both ADD, OCD affect her at school or even at home with schoolwork, perhaps some ideas on what you feel she needs for any modifications, accommodations. Sometimes I didn't have an idea for either, just at a meeting would state the problem and ask for some ideas. Quick thoughts, keep us updated! > > Hi. My little girl was diagnosed with ADD and OCD this year (ADD by a medical doctor and OCD by a therapist). Our school's child study team met and we wrote down accomodations for this school year... I made visual schedule for the teacher, the therapist gave suggestions that were followed, and the teacher is an awesome lady who learned to read my daughter's signs. NOW it is the end of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Tara, wonderful suggestions. Glad it has worked out so well with you, though you & dad certainly put in the effort/time to make it so. Heck, depending on where you live, even that doesn't help always, as we can tell from the years of school discussions in this group. You may have others ready to pack up & move to your school district, lol. I also liked the special consideration given for future teachers, used to do a letter to the principal (and cc the other school personnel) asking for that at the end of each school year. (should have thought to put it in the Plan!) Felt that would give me some " ammo " if he was in a group that wasn't supportive of his needs. I had a 504 meeting at the start of each semester also, to go over the Plan with the new teachers. > > Our son has a diagnosis of OCD- starting in 1st grade. He is now is 3rd grade. We began using a 504 plan last year and I do recommend it. Any parent can request the school district hold a meeting to determine eligibility. It has been a wonderful process for our family, and provide accommodations for students who do not qualify for special education services. My thoughts for other parents to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 A school is required to write a 504 plan for a child with OCD is the OCD is affecting his/ her ability to learn. Re: 504 Request--Please help > Hi. My little girl was diagnosed with ADD and OCD this year (ADD by a medical doctor and OCD by a therapist). Our school's child study team met and we wrote down accomodations for this school year... I made visual schedule for the teacher, the therapist gave suggestions that were followed, and the teacher is an awesome lady who learned to read my daughter's signs. NOW it is the end of the year and I am extremely anxious about next year. Next year there will be more standardized testing and changing classes. I think my daughter needs a 504. This seems to be a bad word in my district.... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Yes, as a special educator of umpteen years, I am horrified to hear that the director of Special Ed is so ill-informed. OCD is NOT related to conduct disorder. It is a neurobiological disorder for which evidence is strong has a genetic component. I, too, would be happy to help you put together info to " educate " this uninformed educator. Re: 504 Request--Please help Exactly correct - its IS INDEED a medical condition. The Child MD can easiy write a letter - it should be fairly straightforward. It's surprising to me that a Director of Special Ed - wouldn't understand that...CONDUCT DISORDER....Wow...he needs to be educated... I'd be happy to send him lots of research! > > Hi. My little girl was diagnosed with ADD and OCD this year (ADD by a medical doctor and OCD by a therapist). Our school's child study team met and we wrote down accomodations for this school year... I made visual schedule for the teacher, the therapist gave suggestions that were followed, and the teacher is an awesome lady who learned to read my daughter's signs. NOW it is the end of the year and I am extremely anxious about next year. Next year there will be more standardized testing and changing classes. I think my daughter needs a 504. This seems to be a bad word in my district....I am putting on the gloves though and will fight this for her. > My question for you guys... the director of special ed told me that OCD was not a disability but was more of a conduct disorder and would not qualify for a 504. I would have to show/argue that the ADD was the problem.... AS yall know the co-morbidity of both is the real problem, but the OCD is more seriously affecting her performance....SO How did you guys get a 504? Did you face opposition??? I need any and all advice. > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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