Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 dear Girl I want you to know that I am glad that you came forward with your experience with Dr Gordon and that you had the guts to tell the truth, sometimes it is hard to say things especially when it seems like it might upset someone, the point was that you didn't say anything bad about anyone on this site all you did was tell what happened to you and your experience with this PS and if it upsets anyone here they need to check themselves and why they are upset about it in the first place. We need to watch out for eachother because who else will? e said in a post earlier and I agree, that she speaks highly of her ps Huang cause that is who she went to and had a good experience with I also speak highly of Feng for the same reason, yet if someone has a negative experience with a PS we are not supposed to say it? WHy not? When you think about it it makes no sense, if we can say the good we should also be able to say the bad. Dr Gordon did a good job on Angelika, we alll agree, and she had a good experience with him, you didn't so you should be able to express your concerns and experience about it as well as those good experiences others have shared. I hope this makes sense. I hope that nothing is lost in the translation of what I am trying to say here. Sometimes emails can be difficult to completely get ones opinions expressed through. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Thanks ! I have a good feeling about the PS I'll be seeing next week. He fixed up my friend after she was botched. Also he was so kind to take an hour to talk on the phone with me. How many docs will bother doing that? Not many I imagine. -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Yes it really does matter to me and to everyone else girl, I care about what you have been through and I am here for you, I hope you find the right PS and I admire your stregnth for waiting and not letting them jerk you around. Good for you girl! ----- Original Message ----- From: perlesetlacet@... Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: -Marie Dearest :Thanks for your support and friendship.Your words hit the nail right on the head. I'm glad my experience matters to you -- it means a lot.Take care,-Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi PJ I had saline implants and a breast lift from hell. We'll chat tomorrow. -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi : I think you're awesome too. Thanks. BTW, our e-mail addresses do show up on the posts--at least mine does. Take care All. -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 I am still not sure how to use this posting board. I replied to you but don't know if you got it. How do I get your e-mail address or do I just send it thru this? Did you go thru the same kind of surgeries too? I will talk to you later. I have to leave for now. Will be able to get back on tomorrow. PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 PJ Marie and the rest of us get the emails just like any other email, in other words the posts will be sent to her by emial and as soon as she opens hers she will get your posts. I am not quite sure if the addresses of people show up on the post or not, I think that some do and some don't. I do know that Marie is awesome and will respond to you as soon as she gets on line again. I also want to offer you my support, while I was not butchered, I also suffered health issues and other problems, some of which I can't seem to shake off still, from implants. And of course we all have the common thread that we somehow thought we were doing something good for ourselves by getting them. Sad isn't it? well anyhow I just wanted to say hi to you and let you know i did read your post and was planning on responding, I am just having one of those hard days today. hugs ----- Original Message ----- From: " ronpatgordi4 " <ronpat@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: RE: -Marie > I am still not sure how to use this posting board. I replied to you > but don't know if you got it. > How do I get your e-mail address or do I just send it thru this? > Did you go thru the same kind of surgeries too? I will talk to you > later. I have to leave for now. Will be able to get back on tomorrow. > PJ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Hi Crystal: I'm glad all is well with you. You're right about the guy thing--I guess that will be sort of a "litmus test" when I meet a man. I guess it's best to tell him of my disfigured breast from the beginning thereby avoiding more pain down the road. LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Hi Crystal, Thank you so very much for this message! I have been making statement re this same issue from every angle I can think off, yet no one seems to 'hear' me. I continue to wonder why in the world any of the many marvelous BI ladies I have met over the past 9 years would even give the time of day to any male who is so shallow, for any of this to make a difference. As I stated in a message last night, I am just so very happy to be alive, and with improved health! I also still owe you all my very true " Barbie Doll " & " Trophy Wife " story! Blessings, MM Martha Murdock, Director National Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters " Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices " 4416 Willow Lane Dallas, TX 75244-7537 ----- Original Message ----- From: <CrystalRDH@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: -Marie > Hi -marie, > > I certainly feel for your situation regarding the men issue. I am also > single, not seriously dating and will be turning 31 this Sunday. I will > definitely be ashamed when I have to let some man see my chest, but I also > know that I have to realize that any man worth having will love me warts and > all. I don't want you to think I wasn't concerned with my appearance after > surgery, but I was very ill and I just wanted to say that for me I just > desperately wanted them out. I would look at my chest with disgust and at > times would even have fleeting thoughts of just ripping them out myself. > > I respect everyone's opinions, and realize that we all have different > priorities. I guess I just felt that with Daryl being sick that she would > want to focus on restoring her health first. I am very grateful for the > wealth of info that I have gotten on this site. > > Take Care, > Crystal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Crystal Trust me dear I was just as concerned about my health as I was so ill. But I chose to research before my explant as much as possible because I knew that rushing into it would be a mistake. I wanted my health more than anything but after that I wanted to look normal too, I wanted it all, and what is wrong with that. I think that in all fairness it is safe to say that we all need to decide what we need to do in this situation. I found that Dr Feng had the most years and experience in doing enbloc explants and felt that was the deciding factor, not just that she did wonderful lifts. I needed to get well, and she felt I would get well and that getting the implants out and just being sensible with eating and nutrition would be enough for me. SHe didn't try to sell me any particular plan, just what she was good at, surgery. The rest was common sense, and it worked for me. Others may chose to do things differently and I think that is fine, it is a personaly choice and one we all must make ourselves. Hugs C ----- Original Message ----- From: <CrystalRDH@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: Re: -Marie > Hi -marie, > > I certainly feel for your situation regarding the men issue. I am also > single, not seriously dating and will be turning 31 this Sunday. I will > definitely be ashamed when I have to let some man see my chest, but I also > know that I have to realize that any man worth having will love me warts and > all. I don't want you to think I wasn't concerned with my appearance after > surgery, but I was very ill and I just wanted to say that for me I just > desperately wanted them out. I would look at my chest with disgust and at > times would even have fleeting thoughts of just ripping them out myself. > > I respect everyone's opinions, and realize that we all have different > priorities. I guess I just felt that with Daryl being sick that she would > want to focus on restoring her health first. I am very grateful for the > wealth of info that I have gotten on this site. > > Take Care, > Crystal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 I agree that no man is worth it, and that you want someone to love the real you, that all sounds so good and lovely, but truth is when I look in the mirror I want to like what I see. I may be a bit vain, I admit it, but I enjoy feeling and looking sexy and like fitting into a size 3/4 and looking good. I am 38 years old and don't think I look my age, at all, and I also think I am in better shape than when I was twenty. I don't care so much about what anyone else thinks of me, it is more about what I think of myself, I like to feel good about me! Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. I feel better when I look good, so in the end to me yes, looks do matter, but self esteem and confidence to me comes more from being healthy and fit, than from fitting into a certain image, being strong, muscular and firm,being emotionally and spiritually strong and being a capable woman all those things turn a mans head, more than big fake breasts! ----- Original Message ----- From: " MARTHA " <MAM-NSIF@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: -Marie > Hi Crystal, > > Thank you so very much for this message! I have been making statement re > this same issue from every angle I can think off, yet no one seems to 'hear' > me. I continue to wonder why in the world any of the many marvelous BI > ladies I have met over the past 9 years would even give the time of day to > any male who is so shallow, for any of this to make a difference. As I > stated in a message last night, I am just so very happy to be alive, and > with improved health! > > I also still owe you all my very true " Barbie Doll " & " Trophy Wife " story! > > Blessings, > MM > Martha Murdock, Director > National Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters > " Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices " > 4416 Willow Lane > Dallas, TX 75244-7537 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CrystalRDH@...> > < > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: -Marie > > > > Hi -marie, > > > > I certainly feel for your situation regarding the men issue. I am also > > single, not seriously dating and will be turning 31 this Sunday. I will > > definitely be ashamed when I have to let some man see my chest, but I also > > know that I have to realize that any man worth having will love me warts > and > > all. I don't want you to think I wasn't concerned with my appearance > after > > surgery, but I was very ill and I just wanted to say that for me I just > > desperately wanted them out. I would look at my chest with disgust and at > > times would even have fleeting thoughts of just ripping them out myself. > > > > I respect everyone's opinions, and realize that we all have different > > priorities. I guess I just felt that with Daryl being sick that she would > > want to focus on restoring her health first. I am very grateful for the > > wealth of info that I have gotten on this site. > > > > Take Care, > > Crystal > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Thanks sweetie! ----- Original Message ----- From: perlesetlacet@... Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Re: -Marie :You're right--you don't look your age--much younger! Besides, 38 is far from old.LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Hi -Marie, That is terrible that somebody has the audacity to make such ignorant and hurtful comments. They don't know what it has been like for you. Maybe if she was in your shoes she would quickly change her tune. As far as exhibitionist, that is uncalled for. That is what this site is for to post and let each other know how we feel and if we have something we want to share that is hurting is we should be able to do that too without anyone critisizing. I hope you feel better. Ari > Hi e: > Are you still online? I tried to call you earlier but your line was busy, > it's getting late so I'll call you tomorrow. > > Thank you for your kind words. Yes, it's no joke having such hurtful things > said to you by a supposed fellow " support " member. Being refereed to as an > " exhibitionist " was not nice either, but if making my feelings know makes me > one, then so be it. Also, I need to tell you that this individual has said > you're an exhibitionist on this site too--that was commented to me via > e-mail. That is rather unfortunate but I thought you should be warned. I will > e-mail you privately as I wish not to disclose any name publicly unless it > happens again. > > It's regretful in one's time of need to have issues brought up that have no > relevance whatsoever in PS or my suffering as a result of having had BI. What > was the worst slap in the face was being told I don't care about women > here--that's not true! While I do kick up dust and shake things up here and > there, there is no person I wouldn't help on this site. Not one. For this > arrogant person to say I said particular things she should at least get the > info straight first. > > As for my father, hopefully things might work out down the road-- you never > know--though I won't hold my breath. I really don't feel " wrong. " After all I > never lied to him, I just never told him what was going on because I was not > close to him or felt the need to do so as he's not really a big part of my > life. I didn't think it was his or anyone's business. I kept the BI thing > from LOTS of folks out of sheer embarrassment. I guess I can see the > irresponsible part of it though, if it didn't have the harshness to go with > it I'd be OK with it. > > Are your folks mad at you for getting implants? How did they react? Did they > blame you for the problems that went with it? > > Take care, > -Marie AKA " exhibitionist " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Dear : Hi. You're a great friend. BTW, send me a link about the Mephisto's. I bought another pair of Birkies! What can I say--a little shopping is good for the soul! hehe. I'll talk to you later. Hugs, -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 e: Thank you for your concern and support in this matter. Hopefully things will be rectified. I'm sorry that hurtful the thing was said about you too. Not to worry though, you're a treasured member here who has helped many--you also bring with you a wealth of information for all of us to learn. Hugs, LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Ari: Hi. Thanks for your kindness. BTW, how are you doing? Are you still going to be explanted in Jan? Are you in Conn. now? Take care, -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Hi -Marie, I'm doing ok. I hope to get a doctor that can address my symptoms correctly that way my insurance would possibly pay for my explantation. Not to mention the weight of my breasts is hurting my back so badly. I'm in Conn now, it is a beauty here in the fall. Thanks > Ari: > Hi. Thanks for your kindness. BTW, how are you doing? Are you still going to > be explanted in Jan? Are you in Conn. now? > > Take care, > -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 LM, I sent you an email last night as I'm just shocked about what was said about you. However, I don't think it came through to the group--must be this damn computer!! I'll resend it if it doesn't come through. Anyway, I'm trying to catch up on all the emails I missed while my computer was out, and the one you rec'd just floors me. I am shocked that someone would say those things about you! You have been a valuable member for months now; and have provided support, suggestions, education, and advice whenever needed. You are an outspoken person--so am I, and everyone on this group knows that. But does that make us bad? I DON'T THINK SO!! Whomever said this must be intimidated by outgoing, outspoken people, who aren't afraid to speak their minds. And we are simply providing education to women on this support group who need it dearly. I applaud your strong will and your perserverance. As for the comments that were made about your father----where the hell does all that fit in in the grand scheme of things? I don't think it does. Your personal life is your personal life---no one elses, and no one else has the right to invade it like this person apparently did. It has no relevance to the implant issue unless you choose to make it relevant to the implant issue. But to attack you on a personal level like that is uncalled for, and I sincerely hope that you will provide the name of this individual to and Patty so they can deal with it appropriately. This group is a support group, and while the main topic is implants, there are other topics that can and do come up. I feel that most women on here are close knit, and we have a close bond with each other because of our personal hell we've all been through. But we also have lots of things in common, and as a group, we like to share them. If one of us has issues that are separate from implants, then we should feel comfortable asking others for their support, opininions, and guidance. We shouldn't feel ashamed, guilty, or made to feel like we've stirred up the pot. And if every once in a while, things do get stirred up, so be it. We roll with the punches, but most importantly, respect our different views, attitudes, feelings, and opinions. We may not like what someone is saying or has to say, but we respect it. Period. As for this person telling me I'm an exhibitionist---well, I could (and do) have a few choice words for her. Of course I'm the person that doesn't take things lying down. If she has something to say about me, then she can email me privately and tell me, as I sure would like to hear them. And I sure would like to be given the chance to respond. So, whoever wrote those ugly, hateful words to LM, if you're reading this, come take me on as well, because I'm waiting. You have my private email. To answer your question LM, my parents were pissed that I got implants. My mom kept telling me I was making a bad decision and why would I want to do something like that. Of course I never listened, I had a one track mind, and was going to do what I was going to do. After I got them, I was so excited, and of course my mom did not partake in that excitement, still told me that she couldn't figure out why I got them. Then I started getting sick, and when I finally made the connection to implants, she really had no comment. But the more sick I got, and the more convinced I was, I think she started agreeing. However, about 4 months after explant, she told me that if implants made women so sick, why were they still implanting? Of course trying to tell her about the political BS that goes on, and the women who will stop at nothing to look good, fell on deaf ears. She was convinced that I was making up my illnessess, and that there was no way implants could be causing all my problems. To this day, she doesn't believe. She (in her warped mind) really feels that if implants were dangerous, doctors wouldn't be placing them and they wouldn't be available. She will admit that my health went downhill after the implants, but that's all she'll admit. She still thinks I'm lying about all my problems. Nice f**** parents, right? Anyway, LM, continue to do what you do on this group, and that is help and support women who need it, not to mention be a friend to many of us. I read all your posts and listen to what you have to say. And since we're both considered "exhibitionists", then so be it. e, aka "the exhibitionist" ----- Original Message ----- From: perlesetlacet@... Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:40 AM Subject: Re: -Marie Hi e:Are you still online? I tried to call you earlier but your line was busy, it's getting late so I'll call you tomorrow.Thank you for your kind words. Yes, it's no joke having such hurtful things said to you by a supposed fellow "support" member. Being refereed to as an "exhibitionist" was not nice either, but if making my feelings know makes me one, then so be it. Also, I need to tell you that this individual has said you're an exhibitionist on this site too--that was commented to me via e-mail. That is rather unfortunate but I thought you should be warned. I will e-mail you privately as I wish not to disclose any name publicly unless it happens again. It's regretful in one's time of need to have issues brought up that have no relevance whatsoever in PS or my suffering as a result of having had BI. What was the worst slap in the face was being told I don't care about women here--that's not true! While I do kick up dust and shake things up here and there, there is no person I wouldn't help on this site. Not one. For this arrogant person to say I said particular things she should at least get the info straight first.As for my father, hopefully things might work out down the road--you never know--though I won't hold my breath. I really don't feel "wrong." After all I never lied to him, I just never told him what was going on because I was not close to him or felt the need to do so as he's not really a big part of my life. I didn't think it was his or anyone's business. I kept the BI thing from LOTS of folks out of sheer embarrassment. I guess I can see the irresponsible part of it though, if it didn't have the harshness to go with it I'd be OK with it.Are your folks mad at you for getting implants? How did they react? Did they blame you for the problems that went with it?Take care,-Marie AKA "exhibitionist" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 There a few good Mephisto sites I can send you. one of them is http://www.mephistonextday.com/showshoes.cfm?cat=women%27s%20sandals%20and%20clogs ----- Original Message ----- From: perlesetlacet@... Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: -Marie Dear :Hi. You're a great friend. BTW, send me a link about the Mephisto's. I bought another pair of Birkies! What can I say--a little shopping is good for the soul! hehe.I'll talk to you later.Hugs,-Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Here is another one, this one has lots of good closeouts http://www.mepcomfort.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: perlesetlacet@... Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: -Marie Dear :Hi. You're a great friend. BTW, send me a link about the Mephisto's. I bought another pair of Birkies! What can I say--a little shopping is good for the soul! hehe.I'll talk to you later.Hugs,-Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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