Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 He blows up rather quickly, and gets frustrated with himself when he sees himself doing this behavior he can't stop. It's difficult to get him to a calm point. I feel like perhaps the therapist isn't trained to handle OCD, but he gets along with her so well. I'm not even sure if she's talking about the boss back technique during sessions. He was taking liquids, but now he says he won't do it. I feel like he has so much control in this situation, and we don't have any. Re: Starting Over? Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 - I know exactly what you mean about feeling you don't have any control - one of my mentors told me, " You have to show him YOU have control so that he can get some control. That means, be mean! Let him know the OCD doesn't scare you and you're not going to give in to it, even if he feels he must. " The ian Brothers Medical Center in Chicago might be able to give you some guidance - they have OCD specialists who treat adolescents - I would take my son there in a minute if I lived as close as you do. This is from their website: Free Confidential Assessment & Referrals A counselor is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and we are committed to prompt attention. Please call us at 1-. Re: Starting Over? Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I have heard about ian Brothers. I wonder if they could refer me to a specialist who is closer to my home. It seems that north and northwest of the city is a better place to find good therapists. For some reason, west is very limited in terms of experienced professionals. I have to not be afraid of this, and to know that we'll manage somehow. I attended a workshop by a man named Kirk (of Celebrate Calm) and he can't stress enough that parents have to rid themselves of their own anxiety if they are to help their children. I also like the idea of compounding. Ultimately, I want my son to learn to swallow pills, but at the outset, I just want him to get the medicine he needs. Thanks! Re: Starting Over? Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting Sent from my iPhone > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > Libertarians field choice for president > Privacy Policy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Lots of issues here. My 17 yr. old son, diag. since 7, has OCD/anxiety/depression/ADHD. The anxiety around transitions, as I call them, has been around a long time for Roy. With my kids at work, transitions are always a challenge. With time, rituals developed around the transitions, for Roy. Would have to open and close car door several times before going in, for ex. Therapist said can only tackle one at time and also for me not to call attention to it. I ignore best I can b/c he is very self-absorbed in trying to fight back the OCD. The med. issue is tricky. Roy really likes his pdoc so will do what he recommends. He explains everything to him in detail, down to the research and how it will help him. He always asks him how he wants to proceed with the meds and makes him feel like he is making choices for his treatment. He did get frustrated when we couldn't get the right mix at first. We had success with Prozac but we needed to move up on the dose when his rituals kicked in so badly. We are at 50 mg. and also added Busbar. He also has the Adderall for the ADHD. It is alarming to keep going up on the dosage but it was the only way he could have some peace. When he was having extreme anxiety/panic, I was told to give him the med. at the start of the attack. He did not want to take the Lorazapam and there was some resistance. But I told him before, that I would be giving it to him and he needed to take it. Again emphasized that his pdoc and nurses said he should. The ADHD could also be playing into the resistance. It is hard to know what goes through their minds and how they process information. > > I haven't posted here in a while. I first came to this group a couple of months after my 7-year-old son was diagnosed with OCD and ADHD. We were having a lot of trouble getting him to take medication, and made several doctor/therapist changes over the course of the past nine months. > > Upon the advice of one psychiatrist, we attempted to get at his repetitive behavior issues using therapy alone. It was on a trial basis, to see how he responded. At first, he seemed to do well, and the therapist did not see any consistent behaviors from week to week. I noticed he was better at home, as well, after we were able to provide more stability and structure in the family. > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > We're going to go back to the psychiatrist, because we all feel that medication is what he really needs. In the past, we tried liquid Sertraline (because he wouldn't swallow a pill), but that didn't seem to work after about three months on the drug. (Also, when I was on Zoloft/Sertraline, it didn't seem to work for me and I'd heard there may be genetic factors at play when determining whether or not a medication will be effective.) > > I'm extremely anxious about " making " him take medicine because he has such trouble taking it. The therapeutic community has suggested that we treat this behaviorally: if he doesn't take his medicine, he loses privileges. I'm afraid that's not going to work. I suffer from anxiety, myself, so it's no wonder I'm freaking out about this new tough love stance we're going to have to take. > > Any advice from parents who children are opposed to taking meds? I'm not sure what the doctor will prescribe. Perhaps Prozac. Anyway, thanks for reading and for being such a supportive group. > > - (Chicago suburbs) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Lots of issues here. My 17 yr. old son, diag. since 7, has OCD/anxiety/depression/ADHD. The anxiety around transitions, as I call them, has been around a long time for Roy. With my kids at work, transitions are always a challenge. With time, rituals developed around the transitions, for Roy. Would have to open and close car door several times before going in, for ex. Therapist said can only tackle one at time and also for me not to call attention to it. I ignore best I can b/c he is very self-absorbed in trying to fight back the OCD. The med. issue is tricky. Roy really likes his pdoc so will do what he recommends. He explains everything to him in detail, down to the research and how it will help him. He always asks him how he wants to proceed with the meds and makes him feel like he is making choices for his treatment. He did get frustrated when we couldn't get the right mix at first. We had success with Prozac but we needed to move up on the dose when his rituals kicked in so badly. We are at 50 mg. and also added Busbar. He also has the Adderall for the ADHD. It is alarming to keep going up on the dosage but it was the only way he could have some peace. When he was having extreme anxiety/panic, I was told to give him the med. at the start of the attack. He did not want to take the Lorazapam and there was some resistance. But I told him before, that I would be giving it to him and he needed to take it. Again emphasized that his pdoc and nurses said he should. The ADHD could also be playing into the resistance. It is hard to know what goes through their minds and how they process information. > > I haven't posted here in a while. I first came to this group a couple of months after my 7-year-old son was diagnosed with OCD and ADHD. We were having a lot of trouble getting him to take medication, and made several doctor/therapist changes over the course of the past nine months. > > Upon the advice of one psychiatrist, we attempted to get at his repetitive behavior issues using therapy alone. It was on a trial basis, to see how he responded. At first, he seemed to do well, and the therapist did not see any consistent behaviors from week to week. I noticed he was better at home, as well, after we were able to provide more stability and structure in the family. > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > We're going to go back to the psychiatrist, because we all feel that medication is what he really needs. In the past, we tried liquid Sertraline (because he wouldn't swallow a pill), but that didn't seem to work after about three months on the drug. (Also, when I was on Zoloft/Sertraline, it didn't seem to work for me and I'd heard there may be genetic factors at play when determining whether or not a medication will be effective.) > > I'm extremely anxious about " making " him take medicine because he has such trouble taking it. The therapeutic community has suggested that we treat this behaviorally: if he doesn't take his medicine, he loses privileges. I'm afraid that's not going to work. I suffer from anxiety, myself, so it's no wonder I'm freaking out about this new tough love stance we're going to have to take. > > Any advice from parents who children are opposed to taking meds? I'm not sure what the doctor will prescribe. Perhaps Prozac. Anyway, thanks for reading and for being such a supportive group. > > - (Chicago suburbs) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Lots of issues here. My 17 yr. old son, diag. since 7, has OCD/anxiety/depression/ADHD. The anxiety around transitions, as I call them, has been around a long time for Roy. With my kids at work, transitions are always a challenge. With time, rituals developed around the transitions, for Roy. Would have to open and close car door several times before going in, for ex. Therapist said can only tackle one at time and also for me not to call attention to it. I ignore best I can b/c he is very self-absorbed in trying to fight back the OCD. The med. issue is tricky. Roy really likes his pdoc so will do what he recommends. He explains everything to him in detail, down to the research and how it will help him. He always asks him how he wants to proceed with the meds and makes him feel like he is making choices for his treatment. He did get frustrated when we couldn't get the right mix at first. We had success with Prozac but we needed to move up on the dose when his rituals kicked in so badly. We are at 50 mg. and also added Busbar. He also has the Adderall for the ADHD. It is alarming to keep going up on the dosage but it was the only way he could have some peace. When he was having extreme anxiety/panic, I was told to give him the med. at the start of the attack. He did not want to take the Lorazapam and there was some resistance. But I told him before, that I would be giving it to him and he needed to take it. Again emphasized that his pdoc and nurses said he should. The ADHD could also be playing into the resistance. It is hard to know what goes through their minds and how they process information. > > I haven't posted here in a while. I first came to this group a couple of months after my 7-year-old son was diagnosed with OCD and ADHD. We were having a lot of trouble getting him to take medication, and made several doctor/therapist changes over the course of the past nine months. > > Upon the advice of one psychiatrist, we attempted to get at his repetitive behavior issues using therapy alone. It was on a trial basis, to see how he responded. At first, he seemed to do well, and the therapist did not see any consistent behaviors from week to week. I noticed he was better at home, as well, after we were able to provide more stability and structure in the family. > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > We're going to go back to the psychiatrist, because we all feel that medication is what he really needs. In the past, we tried liquid Sertraline (because he wouldn't swallow a pill), but that didn't seem to work after about three months on the drug. (Also, when I was on Zoloft/Sertraline, it didn't seem to work for me and I'd heard there may be genetic factors at play when determining whether or not a medication will be effective.) > > I'm extremely anxious about " making " him take medicine because he has such trouble taking it. The therapeutic community has suggested that we treat this behaviorally: if he doesn't take his medicine, he loses privileges. I'm afraid that's not going to work. I suffer from anxiety, myself, so it's no wonder I'm freaking out about this new tough love stance we're going to have to take. > > Any advice from parents who children are opposed to taking meds? I'm not sure what the doctor will prescribe. Perhaps Prozac. Anyway, thanks for reading and for being such a supportive group. > > - (Chicago suburbs) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Is she receiving treatment for her OCD? Does she know about bossing it back? If so, or if you have talked with her about it, then I think I would have taken away her hw when she started cursing at you and told her she can have it back after a time out and apology. She needs to know both that you understand her stress and anxiety and that you won't put up with her abusing you. Otherwise she will learn that one way to relieve her stress is to take it out on you. She will then be stuck with both OCD and a behavior issue. I know it's hard to cope with all of this, but I think setting limits is important even for kids with OCD. Re: Re: Starting Over? My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting Sent from my iPhone > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > Libertarians field choice for president > Privacy Policy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Is she receiving treatment for her OCD? Does she know about bossing it back? If so, or if you have talked with her about it, then I think I would have taken away her hw when she started cursing at you and told her she can have it back after a time out and apology. She needs to know both that you understand her stress and anxiety and that you won't put up with her abusing you. Otherwise she will learn that one way to relieve her stress is to take it out on you. She will then be stuck with both OCD and a behavior issue. I know it's hard to cope with all of this, but I think setting limits is important even for kids with OCD. Re: Re: Starting Over? My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting Sent from my iPhone > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > Libertarians field choice for president > Privacy Policy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Is she receiving treatment for her OCD? Does she know about bossing it back? If so, or if you have talked with her about it, then I think I would have taken away her hw when she started cursing at you and told her she can have it back after a time out and apology. She needs to know both that you understand her stress and anxiety and that you won't put up with her abusing you. Otherwise she will learn that one way to relieve her stress is to take it out on you. She will then be stuck with both OCD and a behavior issue. I know it's hard to cope with all of this, but I think setting limits is important even for kids with OCD. Re: Re: Starting Over? My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting Sent from my iPhone > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > Libertarians field choice for president > Privacy Policy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Thank you Jordana I totally agree with your advice, I think I just needed confirmation on how to deal with her behavior. She is receiving treatment and has made very big strives in overcoming some major obstacles. The homework and trying to get her letters to look alike has us stumped though. She is very abusive to me both verbally and physically............this has been taking a toll on our relationship because I can't stand when her brain gets stuck and I respond irrationally calling OCD an asshole.....excuse my language. Anyway I am at a loss on what to do with her high frustrating level. I think it's time to medicate her. Help! Sent from my iPad > Is she receiving treatment for her OCD? Does she know about bossing it back? If so, or if you have talked with her about it, then I think I would have taken away her hw when she started cursing at you and told her she can have it back after a time out and apology. She needs to know both that you understand her stress and anxiety and that you won't put up with her abusing you. Otherwise she will learn that one way to relieve her stress is to take it out on you. She will then be stuck with both OCD and a behavior issue. I know it's hard to cope with all of this, but I think setting limits is important even for kids with OCD. > > Re: Re: Starting Over? > > My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > > Libertarians field choice for president > > Privacy Policy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Thank you Jordana I totally agree with your advice, I think I just needed confirmation on how to deal with her behavior. She is receiving treatment and has made very big strives in overcoming some major obstacles. The homework and trying to get her letters to look alike has us stumped though. She is very abusive to me both verbally and physically............this has been taking a toll on our relationship because I can't stand when her brain gets stuck and I respond irrationally calling OCD an asshole.....excuse my language. Anyway I am at a loss on what to do with her high frustrating level. I think it's time to medicate her. Help! Sent from my iPad > Is she receiving treatment for her OCD? Does she know about bossing it back? If so, or if you have talked with her about it, then I think I would have taken away her hw when she started cursing at you and told her she can have it back after a time out and apology. She needs to know both that you understand her stress and anxiety and that you won't put up with her abusing you. Otherwise she will learn that one way to relieve her stress is to take it out on you. She will then be stuck with both OCD and a behavior issue. I know it's hard to cope with all of this, but I think setting limits is important even for kids with OCD. > > Re: Re: Starting Over? > > My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > > Libertarians field choice for president > > Privacy Policy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Well, medication has played an important role for my OCD and it does for both of my 12 year old twins. As far as setting limits goes, I know it is so necessary, but I also know that while you are doing it and the child is furious, it can be hair-raising. Still, it is SO important. My daughter has OCD, but she also seems to have sensory issues. As a result, she eats very little and what she eats is not nutritious. Last night I took a stand and after making tacos and noodles, I insisted that she eat one taco. She ate noodles and claimed she was full, just to avoid having to eat the taco. I knew that I couldn't let her get away with this because she practically only eats carbs and a tiny bit of dairy until dinner. She needed some protein. I only wish she would have agreed to putting chopped tomatoes on the taco, but if she ate it, at least she would have gotten down some protein. I insisted she eat it, and she, who is usually really sweet, started getting angry and saying mean things. I told her that no matter what I wasn't going to back down and her choice was eat it or go to her room for the night. She didn't want to do that for sure, and since she hadn't finished her homework, which is important to her, she wanted to stay down and do it. (I have them do their homework at the kitchen table or den.). I told her that it was her choice to make and that nothing she said would change my mind. Believe me, she said everything she could, including nasty things to try to get me to, but I wouldn't. When this was going on for about 15 minutes and I'd excused my son from the table, I put two minutes on the microwave timer and told her that she had two minutes to eat it or go upstairs. You know what? She ate it! Then she told me that she was sorry; that she was stressed; that she had sensory issues. I told her that I wasn't mad at her and that it was over, but that I wasn't going to give in when it came to something like this which involved her health. Back to your comment about medication...She could never have been able to hear me and give in, before she went on medication. Re: Re: Starting Over? > > My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > > Libertarians field choice for president > > Privacy Policy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Well, medication has played an important role for my OCD and it does for both of my 12 year old twins. As far as setting limits goes, I know it is so necessary, but I also know that while you are doing it and the child is furious, it can be hair-raising. Still, it is SO important. My daughter has OCD, but she also seems to have sensory issues. As a result, she eats very little and what she eats is not nutritious. Last night I took a stand and after making tacos and noodles, I insisted that she eat one taco. She ate noodles and claimed she was full, just to avoid having to eat the taco. I knew that I couldn't let her get away with this because she practically only eats carbs and a tiny bit of dairy until dinner. She needed some protein. I only wish she would have agreed to putting chopped tomatoes on the taco, but if she ate it, at least she would have gotten down some protein. I insisted she eat it, and she, who is usually really sweet, started getting angry and saying mean things. I told her that no matter what I wasn't going to back down and her choice was eat it or go to her room for the night. She didn't want to do that for sure, and since she hadn't finished her homework, which is important to her, she wanted to stay down and do it. (I have them do their homework at the kitchen table or den.). I told her that it was her choice to make and that nothing she said would change my mind. Believe me, she said everything she could, including nasty things to try to get me to, but I wouldn't. When this was going on for about 15 minutes and I'd excused my son from the table, I put two minutes on the microwave timer and told her that she had two minutes to eat it or go upstairs. You know what? She ate it! Then she told me that she was sorry; that she was stressed; that she had sensory issues. I told her that I wasn't mad at her and that it was over, but that I wasn't going to give in when it came to something like this which involved her health. Back to your comment about medication...She could never have been able to hear me and give in, before she went on medication. Re: Re: Starting Over? > > My 7 year old got stuck on her homework last night. She strives to make some of her letters the exact same although they are not perfect my any means. They just have to look alike. She did this for hours....erasing and rewriting. Everytime we told her to take a break or move on or type it, she got so frustrated and called me names. Then I tried to consequence her but that made it worse. Does anyone have any tips on how to handle once a child's brain gets stuck. Is the anger and swearing Apart of the disorder and should be taken into consideration? My husband has zero tolerance of the swearing at me, but the special Ed teacher in me tries to protect her from this frustration because I think it is out of her control. I'm so confused at how she could make so many gains and then regress. This disorder is so upsetting > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Hi , is he against taking any medication? You mentioned he took the liquid Zoloft. There are other liquid meds he can try. There are also compounding pharmacies. > > http://www.pccarx.com/what-is-compounding/alternative-medication-forms/ > > > > I remember when would be " stuck " in our bathroom doorway, I'd have to give him a little push. Mainly the bathroom one, others weren't a problem. With the clothing, have you tried making him keep the clothing on X minutes before he can re-do? Stairs - any trouble going up or just going down? You could try changing it up, make some type of game of this, hop up or down (depending on safety), skip a step up.... If he goes " too early " into a doorway, does he have to re-do, or is he really just " stuck " taking the first step through? > > > > Even though he can't explain the " why " of what he is (or isn't) doing, the thing is to push himself to do it anyway (even if he has to start over), he needs to do that " boss back OCD " . > > > > Sometimes with I'd do something like " let's see if you can get unstuck (or finish) by the time I count to XX " and sometimes that helped him to push to be thru by then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But lately, his behaviors have escalated: he has the " just-so " type of OCD and will need to put on his clothing several times before he feels it's " right. " It will also take him quite a while to step into a doorway, get into a car, walk down the stairs, etc. He can't explain why he needs to do this, and that is probably part of the reason that therapy itself isn't working. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > > Libertarians field choice for president > > Privacy Policy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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