is this ocd?

[Guest guest]

I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning when I

went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke up and

said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said, " I

decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

Well, I talked him into going anyway (long story short) but I'm wondering what

gives? He came downstairs and sat on a chair he hadn't sat on for a year. He got

in the car without any rituals and didn't show any all day. When we came home, I

gave him the ultimate test, " Go in and tell Dad I'd like to talk to him out

here. " He went in and told Dad. First time he had initiated speaking to Dad in 9

months. Now at 9 pm he is upstairs taking a shower. First shower in our home in

over a year.

What gives?? I'm very very nervous.

Plus, he said on the way home from partial hosp that's he's desperately bored

and tired of all this group therapy after 2 weeks in ER. What should I do?

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

My son with the BP/psychotic break did not like his IOP b/c he said everyone was

depressed. From his pdoc, it sounded to me like was the one who was

depressed and looking at the floor/not contributing. I had him continue going

b/c I was totally lost when he got out of the hospital and needed him to be in a

transition program. Is the IOP about OCD stuff? When john finished after 5

weeks,his impression was that he was put in a room and made to listen to people

teach him things. I guess he wasn't in a place to totally benefit or " be

manipulated " as he put it. OCD can fluctuate so much, in our case anyway, that

the info that he learns there should help manage his stress and other triggers

in his life. For that reason, I would keep your son in it. I think part of

's difficulty too was gaining trust. He kept telling me he had a hard time

trusting people.

Good that he is doing better with his OCD but I can see why you are waiting for

the other shoe to drop.. I have that feeling alot.

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning when

I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke up

and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said, " I

decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>

> Well, I talked him into going anyway (long story short) but I'm wondering what

gives? He came downstairs and sat on a chair he hadn't sat on for a year. He got

in the car without any rituals and didn't show any all day. When we came home, I

gave him the ultimate test, " Go in and tell Dad I'd like to talk to him out

here. " He went in and told Dad. First time he had initiated speaking to Dad in 9

months. Now at 9 pm he is upstairs taking a shower. First shower in our home in

over a year.

>

> What gives?? I'm very very nervous.

>

> Plus, he said on the way home from partial hosp that's he's desperately bored

and tired of all this group therapy after 2 weeks in ER. What should I do?

>

> Rhonda

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son with the BP/psychotic break did not like his IOP b/c he said everyone was

depressed. From his pdoc, it sounded to me like was the one who was

depressed and looking at the floor/not contributing. I had him continue going

b/c I was totally lost when he got out of the hospital and needed him to be in a

transition program. Is the IOP about OCD stuff? When john finished after 5

weeks,his impression was that he was put in a room and made to listen to people

teach him things. I guess he wasn't in a place to totally benefit or " be

manipulated " as he put it. OCD can fluctuate so much, in our case anyway, that

the info that he learns there should help manage his stress and other triggers

in his life. For that reason, I would keep your son in it. I think part of

's difficulty too was gaining trust. He kept telling me he had a hard time

trusting people.

Good that he is doing better with his OCD but I can see why you are waiting for

the other shoe to drop.. I have that feeling alot.

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning when

I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke up

and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said, " I

decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>

> Well, I talked him into going anyway (long story short) but I'm wondering what

gives? He came downstairs and sat on a chair he hadn't sat on for a year. He got

in the car without any rituals and didn't show any all day. When we came home, I

gave him the ultimate test, " Go in and tell Dad I'd like to talk to him out

here. " He went in and told Dad. First time he had initiated speaking to Dad in 9

months. Now at 9 pm he is upstairs taking a shower. First shower in our home in

over a year.

>

> What gives?? I'm very very nervous.

>

> Plus, he said on the way home from partial hosp that's he's desperately bored

and tired of all this group therapy after 2 weeks in ER. What should I do?

>

> Rhonda

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son with the BP/psychotic break did not like his IOP b/c he said everyone was

depressed. From his pdoc, it sounded to me like was the one who was

depressed and looking at the floor/not contributing. I had him continue going

b/c I was totally lost when he got out of the hospital and needed him to be in a

transition program. Is the IOP about OCD stuff? When john finished after 5

weeks,his impression was that he was put in a room and made to listen to people

teach him things. I guess he wasn't in a place to totally benefit or " be

manipulated " as he put it. OCD can fluctuate so much, in our case anyway, that

the info that he learns there should help manage his stress and other triggers

in his life. For that reason, I would keep your son in it. I think part of

's difficulty too was gaining trust. He kept telling me he had a hard time

trusting people.

Good that he is doing better with his OCD but I can see why you are waiting for

the other shoe to drop.. I have that feeling alot.

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning when

I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke up

and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said, " I

decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>

> Well, I talked him into going anyway (long story short) but I'm wondering what

gives? He came downstairs and sat on a chair he hadn't sat on for a year. He got

in the car without any rituals and didn't show any all day. When we came home, I

gave him the ultimate test, " Go in and tell Dad I'd like to talk to him out

here. " He went in and told Dad. First time he had initiated speaking to Dad in 9

months. Now at 9 pm he is upstairs taking a shower. First shower in our home in

over a year.

>

> What gives?? I'm very very nervous.

>

> Plus, he said on the way home from partial hosp that's he's desperately bored

and tired of all this group therapy after 2 weeks in ER. What should I do?

>

> Rhonda

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Rhonda,

Wow! It's hard to say what's going on with your son. But, I do think it might

be worthwhile to keep testing him like you did. If I recall, you had been

putting together an ERP plan for him before he was hospitalized. What do you

think about trying some of the exposures on that plan? I wonder if it might be

worthwhile to keep pushing and see where it takes you. If he's had some sort of

breakthrough, it might work for him to keep going and not let up. With ERP, the

more you do, the better it works - at least, that's how it was with my son.

Maybe between what you can do at home and the day program your son is now

attending, things will finally get better for you and your son. You guys sure

deserve it!

Best,

Joni

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning when

I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke up

and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said, " I

decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rhonda,

From my experience, I would trust him and let him feel that you are

confident in his new-found well-being.

My daughter was home from school for half a year. She was on medication and

had tried ERP without success (she didn't get on with the therapist, and I

don't think she liked the insistent, slo-mo badgering of ERP). Then one day

she decided that she wasn't going to let OCD ruin her summer and snapped out

of it.

For a year, she was fine, off medication and with just some minor residual

issues.

But then something re-triggered the OCD and we were back almost to square

one.

If you are lucky, you might be out of it, however, during the OCD-free year,

we were aware that sooner or later she would have to confront her issues and

learn to work with them.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

Hi Rhonda,

From my experience, I would trust him and let him feel that you are

confident in his new-found well-being.

My daughter was home from school for half a year. She was on medication and

had tried ERP without success (she didn't get on with the therapist, and I

don't think she liked the insistent, slo-mo badgering of ERP). Then one day

she decided that she wasn't going to let OCD ruin her summer and snapped out

of it.

For a year, she was fine, off medication and with just some minor residual

issues.

But then something re-triggered the OCD and we were back almost to square

one.

If you are lucky, you might be out of it, however, during the OCD-free year,

we were aware that sooner or later she would have to confront her issues and

learn to work with them.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

Hi Rhonda,

From my experience, I would trust him and let him feel that you are

confident in his new-found well-being.

My daughter was home from school for half a year. She was on medication and

had tried ERP without success (she didn't get on with the therapist, and I

don't think she liked the insistent, slo-mo badgering of ERP). Then one day

she decided that she wasn't going to let OCD ruin her summer and snapped out

of it.

For a year, she was fine, off medication and with just some minor residual

issues.

But then something re-triggered the OCD and we were back almost to square

one.

If you are lucky, you might be out of it, however, during the OCD-free year,

we were aware that sooner or later she would have to confront her issues and

learn to work with them.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

I agree, I would start doing exposures that are on the hard end of the scale and

see how he does. Also, OCD is very sneaky, and maybe the obsessions and

compulsions morphed into something you do not yet recognize as oCD. I would

love to think he is cured overnight, but I am very suspicious. My guess is that

his OCD knows it is cornered and is doing anything it can to keep from being

treated and will spring up elsewhere-

[Guest guest]

I agree, I would start doing exposures that are on the hard end of the scale and

see how he does. Also, OCD is very sneaky, and maybe the obsessions and

compulsions morphed into something you do not yet recognize as oCD. I would

love to think he is cured overnight, but I am very suspicious. My guess is that

his OCD knows it is cornered and is doing anything it can to keep from being

treated and will spring up elsewhere-

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this - sometimes I am thinking & don't respond! My son is

the same as yours with the outpatient - tired of hearing " that stuff " - he

has been going once/week and will discharge next week. The routine has been good

but the turnover of kids and very low quality of content for his age is getting

to him.

Rhonda

Re: is this ocd?

My son with the BP/psychotic break did not like his IOP b/c he said everyone

was depressed. From his pdoc, it sounded to me like was the one who was

depressed and looking at the floor/not contributing. I had him continue going

b/c I was totally lost when he got out of the hospital and needed him to be in a

transition program. Is the IOP about OCD stuff? When john finished after 5

weeks,his impression was that he was put in a room and made to listen to people

teach him things. I guess he wasn't in a place to totally benefit or " be

manipulated " as he put it. OCD can fluctuate so much, in our case anyway, that

the info that he learns there should help manage his stress and other triggers

in his life. For that reason, I would keep your son in it. I think part of

's difficulty too was gaining trust. He kept telling me he had a hard time

trusting people.

Good that he is doing better with his OCD but I can see why you are waiting

for the other shoe to drop.. I have that feeling alot.

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning

when I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke

up and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said,

" I decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>

> Well, I talked him into going anyway (long story short) but I'm wondering

what gives? He came downstairs and sat on a chair he hadn't sat on for a year.

He got in the car without any rituals and didn't show any all day. When we came

home, I gave him the ultimate test, " Go in and tell Dad I'd like to talk to him

out here. " He went in and told Dad. First time he had initiated speaking to Dad

in 9 months. Now at 9 pm he is upstairs taking a shower. First shower in our

home in over a year.

>

> What gives?? I'm very very nervous.

>

> Plus, he said on the way home from partial hosp that's he's desperately

bored and tired of all this group therapy after 2 weeks in ER. What should I do?

>

> Rhonda

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this - sometimes I am thinking & don't respond! My son is

the same as yours with the outpatient - tired of hearing " that stuff " - he

has been going once/week and will discharge next week. The routine has been good

but the turnover of kids and very low quality of content for his age is getting

to him.

Rhonda

Re: is this ocd?

My son with the BP/psychotic break did not like his IOP b/c he said everyone

was depressed. From his pdoc, it sounded to me like was the one who was

depressed and looking at the floor/not contributing. I had him continue going

b/c I was totally lost when he got out of the hospital and needed him to be in a

transition program. Is the IOP about OCD stuff? When john finished after 5

weeks,his impression was that he was put in a room and made to listen to people

teach him things. I guess he wasn't in a place to totally benefit or " be

manipulated " as he put it. OCD can fluctuate so much, in our case anyway, that

the info that he learns there should help manage his stress and other triggers

in his life. For that reason, I would keep your son in it. I think part of

's difficulty too was gaining trust. He kept telling me he had a hard time

trusting people.

Good that he is doing better with his OCD but I can see why you are waiting

for the other shoe to drop.. I have that feeling alot.

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning

when I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke

up and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said,

" I decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>

> Well, I talked him into going anyway (long story short) but I'm wondering

what gives? He came downstairs and sat on a chair he hadn't sat on for a year.

He got in the car without any rituals and didn't show any all day. When we came

home, I gave him the ultimate test, " Go in and tell Dad I'd like to talk to him

out here. " He went in and told Dad. First time he had initiated speaking to Dad

in 9 months. Now at 9 pm he is upstairs taking a shower. First shower in our

home in over a year.

>

> What gives?? I'm very very nervous.

>

> Plus, he said on the way home from partial hosp that's he's desperately

bored and tired of all this group therapy after 2 weeks in ER. What should I do?

>

> Rhonda

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joni - thanks for your thoughts. Things have been better - we have continued

to push exposures with Dad, etc. Son has taken on all of them, though upset at

times. The swim lesson, tae kwon do and volunteering at hospital start next

week, so I am hoping those will be anchors for him.

Hope all is well with you and son as well,

Rhonda

Re: is this ocd?

Hello Rhonda,

Wow! It's hard to say what's going on with your son. But, I do think it might

be worthwhile to keep testing him like you did. If I recall, you had been

putting together an ERP plan for him before he was hospitalized. What do you

think about trying some of the exposures on that plan? I wonder if it might be

worthwhile to keep pushing and see where it takes you. If he's had some sort of

breakthrough, it might work for him to keep going and not let up. With ERP, the

more you do, the better it works - at least, that's how it was with my son.

Maybe between what you can do at home and the day program your son is now

attending, things will finally get better for you and your son. You guys sure

deserve it!

Best,

Joni

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning

when I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke

up and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said,

" I decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joni - thanks for your thoughts. Things have been better - we have continued

to push exposures with Dad, etc. Son has taken on all of them, though upset at

times. The swim lesson, tae kwon do and volunteering at hospital start next

week, so I am hoping those will be anchors for him.

Hope all is well with you and son as well,

Rhonda

Re: is this ocd?

Hello Rhonda,

Wow! It's hard to say what's going on with your son. But, I do think it might

be worthwhile to keep testing him like you did. If I recall, you had been

putting together an ERP plan for him before he was hospitalized. What do you

think about trying some of the exposures on that plan? I wonder if it might be

worthwhile to keep pushing and see where it takes you. If he's had some sort of

breakthrough, it might work for him to keep going and not let up. With ERP, the

more you do, the better it works - at least, that's how it was with my son.

Maybe between what you can do at home and the day program your son is now

attending, things will finally get better for you and your son. You guys sure

deserve it!

Best,

Joni

>

> I just had to share this although I hardly know what to say. This morning

when I went to awaken son to get up for first day at partial hosp. unit, he woke

up and said, " I don't think I need to go any more. " I said, " Why not? " He said,

" I decided last night I don't mind feeling dirty any more. "

>