Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm glad that the 1st person you spoke with was not your only interacton! You would think she'd have the training and expertise to look beyond numbers on a sheet. There is ALOT more involved! It makes me angry actually! (Did he get accomodations for his testing) Those standardized test are grueling for our kids....! I've heard that there are small liberal arts schools where they have assigned student mentors that help students with their day to day school work etc... I don't know the name of any in your area... Just a thought Best of luck, > > We went to look at a local college, a big step for Roy. We went to the disability resource person first b/c I thought she would be encouraging and give us some helpful info on how to proceed with a " non-traditional " student with challenges. I had all the paperwork (504,ACT scores, health plan) and she looked at his scores (21 composite, 24 math, 17 science). She had a sour look on her face and told him he should retake it and then tells him he really needs to get that science score up. He felt completely deflated b/c he knows he is better than a number and knows that he was exhausted when he got to the science part of the test. I told her we were working on getting time and half on his retake. It was huge for him to even get to that meeting and all of us walked out thinking why was she in that position. Didn't seem to " get it " at all. > We then decided to skip the tour and try to get in to an admissions person 1:1, instead of the large group. She was very positive and kept telling him that a 21 was a very good score and that she was sure he could bring it up if he retook it. She also gave up options for getting though another glitch with the foreign language requirement. She also explained that there is a human component to the application and that it is not all about scores and numbers. Anyway, what a difference and I am happy we talked with her. I just now have alot more work ahead in trying to get the foreign lang. requirement figured out. Don't see him being able to go unless they waver it. Can't see him handling a college course on top of his HS classes, in order to satisfy 2 yr. foreign lang. Would be so much easier if he wanted to go to the tech or junior college but he really wants to go to a 4 yr. school and then eventually engineering. > So, frustrating for sure. If they only knew how much he has gone through to get this far. > in WI > Roy-17. OCD/Depression/Anxiety ADD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 , This is SO true. After I sent a long e-mail to that dis. resource person b/c she needed some additional info., I realized that he has had way too much going on in HS and is really still dealing with the OCD and anxiety. It colors his day still, about 75% of the time, he reports. I talked to him this aft. about his need to have such an intense major like physics/eng. when it really is not who he is. He said he still feels the need to show people he is smart and we had a long talk about making decisions based on who he really is and not who he is trying to present to other people. I got him to think about a dif. school in town that is more hands on, less academic. I also could refer to my daughter who went to a big competitive university, struggled through, ended up with a stat/math major and is not making $10/hr., living at home, and working in pharm. She had ADD and anxiety and had constant teary conversations with us. She would have been better going to the more tech orientated smaller univ. in town. Also, I could refer to our son who got a full school to go to Stanford. Very bright but I think was struggling the whole time with anxiety and hypomania from the then undiag. BP. He told me the other day he got stupid after HS. Stanford was very competitive and though his grades were high, he still felt stupid. Not something a parent wants to hear. In Jan. this year, he came home way over the edge and ended up hosp. and has been home since then. He is better now but despite the scholarship, don't know if that was the place for him either. It is easy to get caught up in all the hype and forget what is really best for the child. in WI Roy-17, OCD/Anxiety/Depression, ADD dd-24 ds-22 ds-20 > > > > We went to look at a local college, a big step for Roy. We went to the disability resource person first b/c I thought she would be encouraging and give us some helpful info on how to proceed with a " non-traditional " student with challenges. I had all the paperwork (504,ACT scores, health plan) and she looked at his scores (21 composite, 24 math, 17 science). She had a sour look on her face and told him he should retake it and then tells him he really needs to get that science score up. He felt completely deflated b/c he knows he is better than a number and knows that he was exhausted when he got to the science part of the test. I told her we were working on getting time and half on his retake. It was huge for him to even get to that meeting and all of us walked out thinking why was she in that position. Didn't seem to " get it " at all. > > We then decided to skip the tour and try to get in to an admissions person 1:1, instead of the large group. She was very positive and kept telling him that a 21 was a very good score and that she was sure he could bring it up if he retook it. She also gave up options for getting though another glitch with the foreign language requirement. She also explained that there is a human component to the application and that it is not all about scores and numbers. Anyway, what a difference and I am happy we talked with her. I just now have alot more work ahead in trying to get the foreign lang. requirement figured out. Don't see him being able to go unless they waver it. Can't see him handling a college course on top of his HS classes, in order to satisfy 2 yr. foreign lang. Would be so much easier if he wanted to go to the tech or junior college but he really wants to go to a 4 yr. school and then eventually engineering. > > So, frustrating for sure. If they only knew how much he has gone through to get this far. > > in WI > > Roy-17. OCD/Depression/Anxiety ADD > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Curious, when he took 6 credits, did he have to pay the same amount as a person taking the normal load? He would not have trouble getting the time and half for tests, since it is on his 504. The problem with taking long tests is his brain tires and he can't continue, so even when given the option of more time, he is too burned out to take advantage. I think it is the ADD, anxiety, and OCD. Just too much effort I guess. Yes, when I e-mailed the dis. person with more info about roy, she basically said " these kids " do not have good success here with finishing their freshman semester. I think that part. school is prob. not the best for Roy. in WI Roy-17 OCD, ADD, Anxiety, Depression. > > > > > > We went to look at a local college, a big step for Roy. We went to the disability resource person first b/c I thought she would be encouraging and give us some helpful info on how to proceed with a " non-traditional " student with challenges. I had all the paperwork (504,ACT scores, health plan) and she looked at his scores (21 composite, 24 math, 17 science). She had a sour look on her face and told him he should retake it and then tells him he really needs to get that science score up. He felt completely deflated b/c he knows he is better than a number and knows that he was exhausted when he got to the science part of the test. I told her we were working on getting time and half on his retake. It was huge for him to even get to that meeting and all of us walked out thinking why was she in that position. Didn't seem to " get it " at all. > > > We then decided to skip the tour and try to get in to an admissions person 1:1, instead of the large group. She was very positive and kept telling him that a 21 was a very good score and that she was sure he could bring it up if he retook it. She also gave up options for getting though another glitch with the foreign language requirement. She also explained that there is a human component to the application and that it is not all about scores and numbers. Anyway, what a difference and I am happy we talked with her. I just now have alot more work ahead in trying to get the foreign lang. requirement figured out. Don't see him being able to go unless they waver it. Can't see him handling a college course on top of his HS classes, in order to satisfy 2 yr. foreign lang. Would be so much easier if he wanted to go to the tech or junior college but he really wants to go to a 4 yr. school and then eventually engineering. > > > So, frustrating for sure. If they only knew how much he has gone through to get this far. > > > in WI > > > Roy-17. OCD/Depression/Anxiety ADD > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Your daughter sounds creative and a good entrepreneur. I was a diplomat and told the disability resource person that her college was not a good fit for Roy at this time. lots of thanks, etc. Sometimes, I feel like such a b s er because I work in special ed and in this case, have and may again run across her in a meeting. So I have to work both sides of the fence. I thought we should get back on the horse and went to another college today, a polytechnical one right in town. Much better fit and both admissions staff and the dis. resource person were more down to earth and Roy thought that the resource person got his situation. She kept saying that her office was there to make sure he got the most out of his education.She also mentioned the ASPIRE program which Roy liked because of the emphasis on kids connecting with other kids. We felt much better after those meetings and more positive. And the good thing he pays per credit so no worries about how many credits he takes per term. Yes, that smart thing comes from years of kids saying things like " oh I guess you didn't inherit the smart gene like your sister and brothers " . Yes, actually happened. His sibs all were excellent students, without trying as much as he does. Also, alot of preassure from dad. And just the way the whole educational system is set up. More difficult to measure creativity, empathy, intuition, self insight, and general street smarts. If I was stranded on an island, I would want him there and not my smartest child who has not an ounce of common sense. in WI Roy-17. OCD/Anxiety/Depression, ADD. > > > > > > We went to look at a local college, a big step for Roy. We went to the disability resource person first b/c I thought she would be encouraging and give us some helpful info on how to proceed with a " non-traditional " student with challenges. I had all the paperwork (504,ACT scores, health plan) and she looked at his scores (21 composite, 24 math, 17 science). She had a sour look on her face and told him he should retake it and then tells him he really needs to get that science score up. He felt completely deflated b/c he knows he is better than a number and knows that he was exhausted when he got to the science part of the test. I told her we were working on getting time and half on his retake. It was huge for him to even get to that meeting and all of us walked out thinking why was she in that position. Didn't seem to " get it " at all. > > > We then decided to skip the tour and try to get in to an admissions person 1:1, instead of the large group. She was very positive and kept telling him that a 21 was a very good score and that she was sure he could bring it up if he retook it. She also gave up options for getting though another glitch with the foreign language requirement. She also explained that there is a human component to the application and that it is not all about scores and numbers. Anyway, what a difference and I am happy we talked with her. I just now have alot more work ahead in trying to get the foreign lang. requirement figured out. Don't see him being able to go unless they waver it. Can't see him handling a college course on top of his HS classes, in order to satisfy 2 yr. foreign lang. Would be so much easier if he wanted to go to the tech or junior college but he really wants to go to a 4 yr. school and then eventually engineering. > > > So, frustrating for sure. If they only knew how much he has gone through to get this far. > > > in WI > > > Roy-17. OCD/Depression/Anxiety ADD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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