Re: head bump

[Guest guest]

I'd have my son checked if I thought he had a concussion, but not because that

would be worse than if he didn't have OCD. I'm sorry he had such a hard ending

to his camp. Glad he had a pretty good time until then.

head bump

Son (17) spent last week at camp - first time ever - had a pretty good time but

on last day of camp playing a really rough game & another guy yanked him to the

ground. Son landed on back of head, sat up dizzy & had headache rest of day &

next day when he came home. Now headache is gone. Is this worse than a usual

bump if he has OCD? Would you have it checked?

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, keep close watch on him. I would be concerned he had a concussion if the

headache lasted into the next day. Concussions are a big issue in our district,

prob. b/c big emphasis on football. I guess I would have him checked out by doc

or nurse, if you can. I took our exchange student in after he fell on the ice. I

also had a concussion when I fell on the ice.

They have a concussion program at the hospital connected with the school. I just

get nervous when the head is involved. Seen too many closed head injuries in my

job. Glad he was able to go to camp though and make it through. Too bad about

the head. I don't know about the OCD part and concussions. For my exchange

student, his anxiety went way up b/c he was disoriented. For me, I had a

terrible headache, like when I have a migraine. Also some visual stuff.

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> Son (17) spent last week at camp - first time ever - had a pretty good time

but on last day of camp playing a really rough game & another guy yanked him to

the ground. Son landed on back of head, sat up dizzy & had headache rest of day

& next day when he came home. Now headache is gone. Is this worse than a usual

bump if he has OCD? Would you have it checked?

> Rhonda

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[Guest guest]

I’d have him checked out. Better to be safe.

Judy

[Guest guest]

Thanks ladies! He actually said he had a wonderful time and didn't even tell me

about the bump til we were on the way home. He had 11 guys in his cabin,

bathrooms were in another building, he did it all!! I am totally thrilled and so

glad he could have this experience. Sis went also and said at times he was left

out or alone, being a new kid with a bunch of return campers (for years and

years) but he still said he had a great time. Very proud of him!

Doc said just wait and see, since there's no pain or symptoms now. I thought

since brain is already compromised by OCD, a bump might not be a good thing. (I

have this picture of wires being all tangled up from some of the pix in the OCD

books!) Glad to hear it's not an issue.

Rhonda

Re: head bump

I'd have my son checked if I thought he had a concussion, but not because that

would be worse than if he didn't have OCD. I'm sorry he had such a hard ending

to his camp. Glad he had a pretty good time until then.

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[Guest guest]

Rhonda, that is so wonderful that he had a good time at camp!  Think back a few

months ago--it would have been such a comfort to know he would achieve so much

in a short time!  So happy for all of you.  Also, I work at a peds hospital

and yes, the docs are much more cautious now about concussions than they used to

be, but if he is not vomiting and had no loss of consciousness you are probably

okay just watching him closely, but of course ask your doctor!  

, mom to Ethan, 16y, dx w/OCD, GAD

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To:

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:41 PM

Subject: head bump

 

Son (17) spent last week at camp - first time ever - had a pretty good time but

on last day of camp playing a really rough game & another guy yanked him to the

ground. Son landed on back of head, sat up dizzy & had headache rest of day &

next day when he came home. Now headache is gone. Is this worse than a usual

bump if he has OCD? Would you have it checked?

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, that is so wonderful that he had a good time at camp!  Think back a few

months ago--it would have been such a comfort to know he would achieve so much

in a short time!  So happy for all of you.  Also, I work at a peds hospital

and yes, the docs are much more cautious now about concussions than they used to

be, but if he is not vomiting and had no loss of consciousness you are probably

okay just watching him closely, but of course ask your doctor!  

, mom to Ethan, 16y, dx w/OCD, GAD

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To:

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:41 PM

Subject: head bump

 

Son (17) spent last week at camp - first time ever - had a pretty good time but

on last day of camp playing a really rough game & another guy yanked him to the

ground. Son landed on back of head, sat up dizzy & had headache rest of day &

next day when he came home. Now headache is gone. Is this worse than a usual

bump if he has OCD? Would you have it checked?

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, wow, really he's come a long way past few months! So glad he enjoyed

himself. My Aspie son is like that (re sis' comment), but still will say he

enjoyed things and he did. I'm a " people watcher " myself and can enjoy that.

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> Thanks ladies! He actually said he had a wonderful time and didn't even tell

me about the bump til we were on the way home. He had 11 guys in his cabin,

bathrooms were in another building, he did it all!! I am totally thrilled and so

glad he could have this experience. Sis went also and said at times he was left

out or alone, being a new kid with a bunch of return campers (for years and

years) but he still said he had a great time. Very proud of him!

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> Doc said just wait and see, since there's no pain or symptoms now. I thought

since brain is already compromised by OCD, a bump might not be a good thing. (I

have this picture of wires being all tangled up from some of the pix in the OCD

books!) Glad to hear it's not an issue.

> Rhonda

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> I'd have my son checked if I thought he had a concussion, but not because

that would be worse than if he didn't have OCD. I'm sorry he had such a hard

ending to his camp. Glad he had a pretty good time until then.

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[Guest guest]

~ it's weird, I don't think he would have done the camp thing before

" getting " OCD. In some ways getting victory over OCD has made him a stronger

person all around. Does your son feel others are leaving him out or he's a bad

conversationalist? Son has said this several times - " I can't remember any one's

name, I don't know what to talk about " - he's aware that he's left out yet he

keeps trying. He really liked the structure and activity!

Rhonda

Re: head bump

Rhonda, wow, really he's come a long way past few months! So glad he enjoyed

himself. My Aspie son is like that (re sis' comment), but still will say he

enjoyed things and he did. I'm a " people watcher " myself and can enjoy that.

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[Guest guest]

Re the head bump issue- I am an ER doctor, and will say that I see tons of

people in the ER for un necessary visits for symptoms of continued headache and

dizziness a day or so after a head bump. These are normal symptoms of

concussion and from a western medical standpoint there is nothing to do about it

EXCEPT keep them out of any contact sports for up to 2 weeks AFTER symptoms

resolve. The treatment is gradual progression of activity from nothing , to try

gentle non jiggling exercise like an exercycle, to regular non contact activity,

to contact activity, progressing as tolerated , but really waiting at least a

week from the time symptoms go a way until starting contact stuff. This is all

to avoid second impact syndrome. OCD does not change it at all unless your kid

starts inventing symptoms or cant let go of the symptoms once they are there out

of fear in which case it makes the progression harder ( my kid was out of hockey

for 2 weeks for a " concussion " that I am SURE he did not have. But I asked him

all the questions and he said no, then the trainer did the next day and he said

yes to them all so they kept him out. Then he couldnt let go of the symptoms

despite the fact that his concussion testing ( computer reaction time test)

actually IMPROVED.

Serious head injury ( defined as something you need surgery for) will almost

always present within 3 hours with deteriorating levels of consciousness,

confusion, vomiting. The one exception to this is if the patient is on blood

thinners or has hemophellia or some other bleeding disorder in which case they

need to be checked out and get a CAT scan. Otherwise, I would avoid a CAT scan

for routine head bumps ( radiation risk) If you do go to the doctor and they

want to cat scan, be sure to ask why- what they think the liklihood of serious

head injury is, and if the risks of radiation outweigh the benefits. Seriously,

lots of doctors, especially ER doctors, will scan because they are afraid of

litigation for the slight chance they will miss something, NOT because they

think it is the right thing to do.

Having said this, the craniosacral therapist in me says take them for

craniosacral after a concussion- there is a lot of work to do from that

standpoint if you are open to the work especially if you can find someone who is

familiar with the brain curriculum, but even if you cant, there is lots to do.

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, well with Aspergers, the problem with give & take of conversation is

typical. Also the what-to-say, talk about; and with an Aspie, their comments

aren't always " typical " of other peer topics. That's greatly improved since

is older.

But yeah, others just leave him out, even when polite to him. He's a great guy,

just doesn't " connect. " When he would go on church trips with his youth group,

I'd watch the other kids all sit with their friends and just sort of

have to " find a spot. " And this was in high school. Once even tho we got there

early, he ended up riding with an adult separately in a car cuz the van ran out

of room, which was true, but he was the only one who had to ride separately.

But at the same time, all the kids liked him, just he was left out.

And he's said that when they were out places, yeah, he did walk alone, but he

still enjoyed the outing, etc.

Difficult to explain. And at age 23, pretty much the same life. But still,

soooo much progress from elementary school to now, big difference.

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> ~ it's weird, I don't think he would have done the camp thing before

" getting " OCD. In some ways getting victory over OCD has made him a stronger

person all around. Does your son feel others are leaving him out or he's a bad

conversationalist? Son has said this several times - " I can't remember any one's

name, I don't know what to talk about " - he's aware that he's left out yet he

keeps trying. He really liked the structure and activity!

> Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, well with Aspergers, the problem with give & take of conversation is

typical. Also the what-to-say, talk about; and with an Aspie, their comments

aren't always " typical " of other peer topics. That's greatly improved since

is older.

But yeah, others just leave him out, even when polite to him. He's a great guy,

just doesn't " connect. " When he would go on church trips with his youth group,

I'd watch the other kids all sit with their friends and just sort of

have to " find a spot. " And this was in high school. Once even tho we got there

early, he ended up riding with an adult separately in a car cuz the van ran out

of room, which was true, but he was the only one who had to ride separately.

But at the same time, all the kids liked him, just he was left out.

And he's said that when they were out places, yeah, he did walk alone, but he

still enjoyed the outing, etc.

Difficult to explain. And at age 23, pretty much the same life. But still,

soooo much progress from elementary school to now, big difference.

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> ~ it's weird, I don't think he would have done the camp thing before

" getting " OCD. In some ways getting victory over OCD has made him a stronger

person all around. Does your son feel others are leaving him out or he's a bad

conversationalist? Son has said this several times - " I can't remember any one's

name, I don't know what to talk about " - he's aware that he's left out yet he

keeps trying. He really liked the structure and activity!

> Rhonda