Re: Dissecting the Savage spin

[Guest guest]

Don't worry, I'm sort on words today, too.

Are you are saying people with " true " autism and " like " autism are

both acting the same to avoid painful triggers? I think I get you, in

that people with autism are more likely to be abused because people

around them do not know how to support someone with autism who is

trying to escape painful stuff?

What I'm trying to say is that we need to find a way to have

definitive testing -- blood tests, scans, etc that can differentiate

the different reasons someone with autism is struggling or hurting so

we can develop specific ways to be able to help them. In that way,

those who are acting out " like " autism won't get an " autism " label

with wrong helps, they will get the right label and the right treatments.

Debi

[Guest guest]

Debi , I will be to cut and respond to you words and then clarify of

my thinking okay?

>

> Are you are saying people with " true " autism and " like " autism are

> both acting the same to avoid painful triggers? debi

{Yes except that my words would be to say this: people with " true "

autism and " like " autism may be reacting in SIMILAR ways to avoid

different triggers that caused them the insults, true autism-one

maybe of meidcal and neurologically based/ and the other like autism-

may be of emotionally and mentally based}sondra

I think I get you, in

> that people with autism are more likely to be abused because people

> around them do not know how to support someone with autism who is

> trying to escape painful stuff? debi

yes the painful sensory and or medical issues and or the anxiety

produced by demands for us to give that which we developmental,

socially/emotionally and or even cognitively/intellectually cannot

give at the moment. Where the other Like autism may be avoiding human

interactions due to intense fear of their own mortality.Sondra

>

> What I'm trying to say is that we need to find a way to have

> definitive testing -- blood tests, scans, etc that can differentiate

> the different reasons someone with autism is struggling or hurting

so we can develop specific ways to be able to help them. In that way,

> those who are acting out " like " autism won't get an " autism " label

> with wrong helps, they will get the right label and the right

treatments. Debi

I to agree 100% for this but it is a long ways off since there are of

so many different causes for autism.Sondra

>

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

Debi , I will be to cut and respond to you words and then clarify of

my thinking okay?

>

> Are you are saying people with " true " autism and " like " autism are

> both acting the same to avoid painful triggers? debi

{Yes except that my words would be to say this: people with " true "

autism and " like " autism may be reacting in SIMILAR ways to avoid

different triggers that caused them the insults, true autism-one

maybe of meidcal and neurologically based/ and the other like autism-

may be of emotionally and mentally based}sondra

I think I get you, in

> that people with autism are more likely to be abused because people

> around them do not know how to support someone with autism who is

> trying to escape painful stuff? debi

yes the painful sensory and or medical issues and or the anxiety

produced by demands for us to give that which we developmental,

socially/emotionally and or even cognitively/intellectually cannot

give at the moment. Where the other Like autism may be avoiding human

interactions due to intense fear of their own mortality.Sondra

>

> What I'm trying to say is that we need to find a way to have

> definitive testing -- blood tests, scans, etc that can differentiate

> the different reasons someone with autism is struggling or hurting

so we can develop specific ways to be able to help them. In that way,

> those who are acting out " like " autism won't get an " autism " label

> with wrong helps, they will get the right label and the right

treatments. Debi

I to agree 100% for this but it is a long ways off since there are of

so many different causes for autism.Sondra

>

> Debi

>