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Wow, that is quite a story about your son and what you both have been

through!! You both are real troopers, that is for sure! It sounds like your son

had a pretty good insight into what was going on with his OCD as he got older,

which I'm sure was helpful to him and to you.

What you said about having the son with the " weird OCD " that really hit home

with me! After being on this list and reading the wide variety of issues this

kids deal with, I don't think there is any such thing now as " weird OCD. " It

really does encompass such a broad spectrum of symptoms, behaviors, rituals,

obsessions, etc.

And on that note, a little bit of encouraging news with my son. His psychiatrist

said he's just now beginning to open up more to him about his OCD. And although

he doesn't really understand it himself and can't really articulate too much at

this point, at least he's giving them something they can start working with.

:)

> Hi Rhonda, gee, how to keep this short! so much to cover.

>

> OK - in 6th grade, age 11.5 or so, OCD just seemed to come on overnight.

> He'd been in school just 2 or 3 weeks, was fine. I noticed him erasing a lot

one night during homework and writing/paper looked odd. He would erase and not

rewrite, or if a letter didn't look " right " he had to draw a line from the

letter to the top of the page. His writing, which used to be a bit large (motor

skill) was much smaller and what I called " chicken scratch " it was just

illegible. He started crying and said he had to draw the lines, etc., or

something bad would happen to him. OCD immediately popped into my head.

>

> From that moment on, it was like a floodgate opened. 24/7 OCD, all these new

rituals/compulsions. His was a lot of touching. He may touch an item/thing for

minutes or hours, couldn't stop til it felt " right. " A pencil. If he touched a

wall or a bag, would be feeling of it for a while. Even if his elbow hit the

wall. His foot and the floor? yes, in certain spots of the house. Got so I had

to shove him thru the bathroom door (stuck in a doorway, he needed a push).

Reading - had to repeat some things in his head until it sounded " right. " Or

would get " stuck " on a page. Would want to get on my bed (extra TV in my room

that kids watched) and might get up/down for a few minutes or 2 hours because he

couldn't get on it " right " . Same with his bed at bedtime. He avoided some things

(like a certain chair) or avoided because he was afraid he would get " stuck " if

he didn't. Had a " thing " about looking at clocks, never did get the " why " of

that. Kept him away from switches/on/off as he had to repeat. List goes on!

>

> I was the mom who had the son with the " weird " OCD, lol, couldn't find

anything in any book about his behaviors. And I began to feel like he was like

" super glue " on his skin, I didn't want him touching stuff some days!

>

> I was hesitant of prescription meds too, googled crazily. Found out about

inositol powder and decided to try it. Found this group!!!

>

> Inositol eventually began to work (tho at first thought it might have made him

worse, but hung in there). And he got better and better over months. OCD

lessened up. Eventually, long months later, was doing real well. This was all

during the 3 middle school years.

>

> When we worked on things -- No therapist around here, and I worked at our

local mental health. Sort of rural county where we live. So with the research

reading and this group, I would pick 1 or 2 things to work on with ,

suggest them to him, he would okay, and we just took baby steps. One time he was

turning bathroom faucet..or light switch, one of them he had turned on, I went

to the doorway and told him to just try turning off once. He was like, I don't

have to do it more than once (yeah, uh-huh) so he did it just once to prove it

to me. :) Tho he wanted to do it again, on/off. Anyway, that one went easy, lol,

he didn't repeat in the bathroom any more.

>

> He couldn't use the TV remote to change channels, would holler at one of us to

come change the channel. Yes, in the midst of chaos I just changed it for him

and told him I shouldn't! But often I would suggest to him that he try, he would

get that anxious look and not, so I would go ahead. Over time, much time, he

would hold it a minute but not be able to. Finally one day I suggested he just

push a channel number (not the up/down buttons), and he actually managed that.

So from that day he used the channel/number buttons, ignored the up/down ones.

>

> Just a couple examples. He stayed on inositol thru middle school, we had even

lowered the dose to just once a day by 8th grade. Then OCD seemed to spike back

up. I'd always wondered if prescription meds would really get rid of OCD.

( said that it was always there, even when I saw no sign of it and asked

him did he still have OCD) So he was willing to try Celexa in 9th grade. Started

it, did great on it. Stayed on it 9th and 10th grades. Then he wanted to quit

it, felt he could handle OCD on his own.

>

> He will now say that neither the inositol nor the Celexa helped, that OCD just

got better on its own. Talk about perspective!

>

> So he quit Celexa at end of 10th grade, we weaned him off. I was concerned

about OCD returning but months went by. It was...the middle of 11th grade,

surprise, came back whole new way! Scrupulosity. He had made all these promises

to God not to eat this/that, whew, a nightmare. Was down to a baked potato, and

not sure what liquid... Took him a few times to a minister who answered

's Bible questions (promises to God, having mean thoughts about

classmates, what he could/couldn't eat (had to do with meat/blood), and other

stuff; I waited outside but sometimes could hear when really quiet in the lobby

there at the church.

>

> He refused meds, we did try supplements, nothing helped. He eventually pushed

himself (cuz he knew he had to) back to eating but a lot of it is till around.

It may have eased up too. He went to community college, had a great experience,

transferred to UNC-Chapel Hill, graduated from it last August with a BS in

Biology. His OCD does bother him but he goes on with his day/life. I can hear

him in the shwower though, where he'll pray/vent sometimes.

>

> And this is the SHORT version!

>

>

>

>

> >

> > -

> >

> > If you ever have time, can you tell the story of your son again? I've got it

in bits and pieces but it would be great to hear all the way through. Did he

ever take medication? What recovery path did he follow? How did you do it

without a therapist?

> >

> > thanks bunches

> > Rhonda

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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, that's wonderful that he is starting to talk about it a little!! He's on

his way to getting better!

With , it was easy for him to see those physical rituals/routines and

having to do things over as OCD. But the thoughts I guess are so " invisible "

and he said once he had some when younger to, guess it just wasn't to a bad

degree. So for him that is personality/person related, not OCD. Sigh!

Hopefully your son will see some of those physical

things/reactions/routines...as OCD as therapy moves along. I wonder if he has

any " bad thoughts. " With 's earlier OCD, he said something bad would

happen to him if he didn't do them AND he had to get a " just right " feeling. I

used to wonder if he was having " thoughts " before doing any but he told me no.

So happy your son is opening up, must be feeling better and more comfortable

there, which says a lot about !

>

> Wow, that is quite a story about your son and what you both have been

through!! You both are real troopers, that is for sure! It sounds like your son

had a pretty good insight into what was going on with his OCD as he got older,

which I'm sure was helpful to him and to you.

>

> What you said about having the son with the " weird OCD " that really hit home

with me! After being on this list and reading the wide variety of issues this

kids deal with, I don't think there is any such thing now as " weird OCD. " It

really does encompass such a broad spectrum of symptoms, behaviors, rituals,

obsessions, etc.

>

> And on that note, a little bit of encouraging news with my son. His

psychiatrist said he's just now beginning to open up more to him about his OCD.

And although he doesn't really understand it himself and can't really articulate

too much at this point, at least he's giving them something they can start

working with.

>

> :)

>

> > Hi Rhonda, gee, how to keep this short! so much to cover.

> >

> > OK - in 6th grade, age 11.5 or so, OCD just seemed to come on overnight.

> > He'd been in school just 2 or 3 weeks, was fine. I noticed him erasing a lot

one night during homework and writing/paper looked odd. He would erase and not

rewrite, or if a letter didn't look " right " he had to draw a line from the

letter to the top of the page. His writing, which used to be a bit large (motor

skill) was much smaller and what I called " chicken scratch " it was just

illegible. He started

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Hi Chris

Thanks so much for taking time to write that out - it really helps me to see it

over the span of years and how you managed it day to day. In some ways it feels

like learning a foreign language - so puzzling, so incomprehensible, yet it's

the language that all of a sudden my son is speaking and I have to try to learn

it overnight, without a dictionary. And then the language itself can change

overnight. Hearing how you coped with it, and your son is now thriving, is so

encouraging!

Rhonda

Rhonda - re my son

Hi Rhonda, gee, how to keep this short! so much to cover.

OK - in 6th grade, age 11.5 or so, OCD just seemed to come on overnight.

He'd been in school just 2 or 3 weeks, was fine. I noticed him erasing a lot

one night during homework and writing/paper looked odd. He would erase and not

rewrite, or if a letter didn't look " right " he had to draw a line from the

letter to the top of the page. His writing, which used to be a bit large (motor

skill) was much smaller and what I called " chicken scratch " it was just

illegible. He started crying and said he had to draw the lines, etc., or

something bad would happen to him. OCD immediately popped into my head.

From that moment on, it was like a floodgate opened. 24/7 OCD, all these new

rituals/compulsions. His was a lot of touching. He may touch an item/thing for

minutes or hours, couldn't stop til it felt " right. " A pencil. If he touched a

wall or a bag, would be feeling of it for a while. Even if his elbow hit the

wall. His foot and the floor? yes, in certain spots of the house. Got so I had

to shove him thru the bathroom door (stuck in a doorway, he needed a push).

Reading - had to repeat some things in his head until it sounded " right. " Or

would get " stuck " on a page. Would want to get on my bed (extra TV in my room

that kids watched) and might get up/down for a few minutes or 2 hours because he

couldn't get on it " right " . Same with his bed at bedtime. He avoided some things

(like a certain chair) or avoided because he was afraid he would get " stuck " if

he didn't. Had a " thing " about looking at clocks, never did get the " why " of

that. Kept him away from switches/on/off as he had to repeat. List goes on!

I was the mom who had the son with the " weird " OCD, lol, couldn't find

anything in any book about his behaviors. And I began to feel like he was like

" super glue " on his skin, I didn't want him touching stuff some days!

I was hesitant of prescription meds too, googled crazily. Found out about

inositol powder and decided to try it. Found this group!!!

Inositol eventually began to work (tho at first thought it might have made him

worse, but hung in there). And he got better and better over months. OCD

lessened up. Eventually, long months later, was doing real well. This was all

during the 3 middle school years.

When we worked on things -- No therapist around here, and I worked at our

local mental health. Sort of rural county where we live. So with the research

reading and this group, I would pick 1 or 2 things to work on with ,

suggest them to him, he would okay, and we just took baby steps. One time he was

turning bathroom faucet..or light switch, one of them he had turned on, I went

to the doorway and told him to just try turning off once. He was like, I don't

have to do it more than once (yeah, uh-huh) so he did it just once to prove it

to me. :) Tho he wanted to do it again, on/off. Anyway, that one went easy, lol,

he didn't repeat in the bathroom any more.

He couldn't use the TV remote to change channels, would holler at one of us to

come change the channel. Yes, in the midst of chaos I just changed it for him

and told him I shouldn't! But often I would suggest to him that he try, he would

get that anxious look and not, so I would go ahead. Over time, much time, he

would hold it a minute but not be able to. Finally one day I suggested he just

push a channel number (not the up/down buttons), and he actually managed that.

So from that day he used the channel/number buttons, ignored the up/down ones.

Just a couple examples. He stayed on inositol thru middle school, we had even

lowered the dose to just once a day by 8th grade. Then OCD seemed to spike back

up. I'd always wondered if prescription meds would really get rid of OCD.

( said that it was always there, even when I saw no sign of it and asked

him did he still have OCD) So he was willing to try Celexa in 9th grade. Started

it, did great on it. Stayed on it 9th and 10th grades. Then he wanted to quit

it, felt he could handle OCD on his own.

He will now say that neither the inositol nor the Celexa helped, that OCD just

got better on its own. Talk about perspective!

So he quit Celexa at end of 10th grade, we weaned him off. I was concerned

about OCD returning but months went by. It was...the middle of 11th grade,

surprise, came back whole new way! Scrupulosity. He had made all these promises

to God not to eat this/that, whew, a nightmare. Was down to a baked potato, and

not sure what liquid... Took him a few times to a minister who answered

's Bible questions (promises to God, having mean thoughts about

classmates, what he could/couldn't eat (had to do with meat/blood), and other

stuff; I waited outside but sometimes could hear when really quiet in the lobby

there at the church.

He refused meds, we did try supplements, nothing helped. He eventually pushed

himself (cuz he knew he had to) back to eating but a lot of it is till around.

It may have eased up too. He went to community college, had a great experience,

transferred to UNC-Chapel Hill, graduated from it last August with a BS in

Biology. His OCD does bother him but he goes on with his day/life. I can hear

him in the shwower though, where he'll pray/vent sometimes.

And this is the SHORT version!

>

> -

>

> If you ever have time, can you tell the story of your son again? I've got it

in bits and pieces but it would be great to hear all the way through. Did he

ever take medication? What recovery path did he follow? How did you do it

without a therapist?

>

> thanks bunches

> Rhonda

>

>

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Oh, just had to add - in community college, and probably at university, he

couldn't do any work on a Sunday. Even around here. But could go do volunteer

work with his church group.

But re school, he would have assignments due, stop at midnight on Saturday

(which was then Sunday a.m.). And could not start back til midnight Sunday

(which is then Monday a.m.). So he would be up all " Sunday " night to finish

assignments, as he is one to wait til last minute to do things, and have a

morning class Monday. (meaning he'd know a project was due for a month, but work

on it the last week, etc) I know he was that way at Chapel Hill/university.

But by his last year, I also know he actually did study some on Sundays so I saw

that as progress. Guess risk of failing pushed him!

So, yeah, he still deals with his OCD daily. He's got a JOB interview, first

one, yay! this Wednesday, so cross fingers he likes what they say and they like

him! The Aspergers part just concerns me re job prospects.... Gee, more than

the OCD, so OCD has taken a backseat for me regarding jobs. I think wanting to

keep a job would push him past any difficulties at work....

> >

> > -

> >

> > If you ever have time, can you tell the story of your son again? I've got it

in bits and pieces but it would be great to hear all the way through. Did he

ever take medication? What recovery path did he follow? How did you do it

without a therapist?

> >

> > thanks bunches

> > Rhonda

> >

> >

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Thanks, Chris! They clearly are working really hard to deal with my son's

situation and I so greatly appreciate all of their efforts. I have asked my son

in the past if him having to get " just the right sound out " with his tics was a

physical feeling of relief, psychological, or both? He said he felt it was

mostly a physical feeling of relief. But who knows what is attached to all of

the other stuff like the bathroom issues, spelling his words, not wanting to

hear so many different words, etc.

I do think that some of the word thing has to do with sensory overload because

he's told me he can't hear certain words that are " too exciting " for him because

it causes him to have tics. For example, it go to where we couldn't say " Whole

Foods Market " or " Trader Joe's " and he couldn't go into either market because it

was " too exciting " and caused him to have major tics.

> , that's wonderful that he is starting to talk about it a little!! He's

on his way to getting better!

>

> With , it was easy for him to see those physical rituals/routines and

having to do things over as OCD. But the thoughts I guess are so " invisible " and

he said once he had some when younger to, guess it just wasn't to a bad degree.

So for him that is personality/person related, not OCD. Sigh! Hopefully your son

will see some of those physical things/reactions/routines...as OCD as therapy

moves along. I wonder if he has any " bad thoughts. " With 's earlier OCD,

he said something bad would happen to him if he didn't do them AND he had to get

a " just right " feeling. I used to wonder if he was having " thoughts " before

doing any but he told me no.

>

> So happy your son is opening up, must be feeling better and more comfortable

there, which says a lot about !

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Wow, that is quite a story about your son and what you both have been

through!! You both are real troopers, that is for sure! It sounds like your son

had a pretty good insight into what was going on with his OCD as he got older,

which I'm sure was helpful to him and to you.

> >

> > What you said about having the son with the " weird OCD " that really hit home

with me! After being on this list and reading the wide variety of issues this

kids deal with, I don't think there is any such thing now as " weird OCD. " It

really does encompass such a broad spectrum of symptoms, behaviors, rituals,

obsessions, etc.

> >

> > And on that note, a little bit of encouraging news with my son. His

psychiatrist said he's just now beginning to open up more to him about his OCD.

And although he doesn't really understand it himself and can't really articulate

too much at this point, at least he's giving them something they can start

working with.

> >

> > :)

> >

> > > Hi Rhonda, gee, how to keep this short! so much to cover.

> > >

> > > OK - in 6th grade, age 11.5 or so, OCD just seemed to come on overnight.

> > > He'd been in school just 2 or 3 weeks, was fine. I noticed him erasing a

lot one night during homework and writing/paper looked odd. He would erase and

not rewrite, or if a letter didn't look " right " he had to draw a line from the

letter to the top of the page. His writing, which used to be a bit large (motor

skill) was much smaller and what I called " chicken scratch " it was just

illegible. He started

>

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Saying prayers for you and your son that the job works out! That's great that he

has an interview and hopefully it will go great. I'm curious why the Aspergers

concerns you more than the OCD with jobs, is it because he can manage his OCD

better?

> Oh, just had to add - in community college, and probably at university, he

couldn't do any work on a Sunday. Even around here. But could go do volunteer

work with his church group.

>

> But re school, he would have assignments due, stop at midnight on Saturday

(which was then Sunday a.m.). And could not start back til midnight Sunday

(which is then Monday a.m.). So he would be up all " Sunday " night to finish

assignments, as he is one to wait til last minute to do things, and have a

morning class Monday. (meaning he'd know a project was due for a month, but work

on it the last week, etc) I know he was that way at Chapel Hill/university. But

by his last year, I also know he actually did study some on Sundays so I saw

that as progress. Guess risk of failing pushed him!

>

> So, yeah, he still deals with his OCD daily. He's got a JOB interview, first

one, yay! this Wednesday, so cross fingers he likes what they say and they like

him! The Aspergers part just concerns me re job prospects.... Gee, more than the

OCD, so OCD has taken a backseat for me regarding jobs. I think wanting to keep

a job would push him past any difficulties at work....

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > > If you ever have time, can you tell the story of your son again? I've got

it in bits and pieces but it would be great to hear all the way through. Did he

ever take medication? What recovery path did he follow? How did you do it

without a therapist?

> > >

> > > thanks bunches

> > > Rhonda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Rhonda, it was rough and days I thought I wouldn't survive (literally, felt if I

relaxed I'd collapse and be in hospital with exhaustion!).

But this group was good to read at, to vent to, knew I wasn't alone in dealing

with OCD in my/family life. So I learned to take time for me each day, just

minutes here and there. Keep a fav romance novel in the bathroom, make several

trips a day to bathroom, lol. My own chocolate (not to be shared w/kids), take

10-15 minutes for a cup of coffee and chocolate (my fav combo) while I had music

on or watched a bit of TV. I like outside yard work, so mowing lawn was a great

day, lol. Go the long way around when coming home from work or store (alone)

and listening to radio. Ice cream sundae 3 days in a row. Really helped.

.....Notice a lot of mine revolve around food, lol! Because generally I would

avoid those foods for months, so they were TREATS for me and I darn well

deserved them!

>

> Hi Chris

>

> Thanks so much for taking time to write that out - it really helps me to see

it over the span of years and how you managed it day to day. In some ways it

feels like learning a foreign language - so puzzling, so incomprehensible, yet

it's the language that all of a sudden my son is speaking and I have to try to

learn it overnight, without a dictionary. And then the language itself can

change overnight. Hearing how you coped with it, and your son is now thriving,

is so encouraging!

>

>

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Yeah, Aspergers causes social skill problems, the " not fitting in " and no

friends type. 's the nicest person but just not " typical for age " . So

people are nice to him, actually like him, but no one invites him out, he

doesn't have friends to hang out with. He does have his church and he did join

(thru a friend) some band that practices Tuesday nites; orchestra type I guess,

he's playing his trombone from high school. But he can't do the chit-chat type

of conversations well, so natural for a lot of us. He's made great progress

growing up though. I think he now understands when others are using sarcasm,

lol, he used to just know when it was me (I used it often and would say " you

know I'm being sarcastic, right?). And then Aspie also plays into driving

skills, so no interstates for him, has to take regular roads. A lot of other

Aspie type difficulties for life skills that concern me. We'll see! And yes I

think he can manage his OCD better. He'll still look odd as he covers his mouth

and mumbles (if I can hear him, others will too!). And I'm not shy about

telling him that.

>

>

>

> Saying prayers for you and your son that the job works out! That's great that

he has an interview and hopefully it will go great. I'm curious why the

Aspergers concerns you more than the OCD with jobs, is it because he can manage

his OCD better?

>

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- I am totally thrilled to hear this news about your son as well!!! We

are now waiting on Medicaid authorization to take son to ER before admitting to

treatment center. I am already getting butterflies of all the unknowns. It's

wonderful to see someone on ahead leaving footprints! :)

Rhonda

Re: Rhonda - re my son

, that's wonderful that he is starting to talk about it a little!! He's

on his way to getting better!

With , it was easy for him to see those physical rituals/routines and

having to do things over as OCD. But the thoughts I guess are so " invisible " and

he said once he had some when younger to, guess it just wasn't to a bad degree.

So for him that is personality/person related, not OCD. Sigh! Hopefully your son

will see some of those physical things/reactions/routines...as OCD as therapy

moves along. I wonder if he has any " bad thoughts. " With 's earlier OCD,

he said something bad would happen to him if he didn't do them AND he had to get

a " just right " feeling. I used to wonder if he was having " thoughts " before

doing any but he told me no.

So happy your son is opening up, must be feeling better and more comfortable

there, which says a lot about !

>

> Wow, that is quite a story about your son and what you both have been

through!! You both are real troopers, that is for sure! It sounds like your son

had a pretty good insight into what was going on with his OCD as he got older,

which I'm sure was helpful to him and to you.

>

> What you said about having the son with the " weird OCD " that really hit home

with me! After being on this list and reading the wide variety of issues this

kids deal with, I don't think there is any such thing now as " weird OCD. " It

really does encompass such a broad spectrum of symptoms, behaviors, rituals,

obsessions, etc.

>

> And on that note, a little bit of encouraging news with my son. His

psychiatrist said he's just now beginning to open up more to him about his OCD.

And although he doesn't really understand it himself and can't really articulate

too much at this point, at least he's giving them something they can start

working with.

>

> :)

>

> > Hi Rhonda, gee, how to keep this short! so much to cover.

> >

> > OK - in 6th grade, age 11.5 or so, OCD just seemed to come on overnight.

> > He'd been in school just 2 or 3 weeks, was fine. I noticed him erasing a

lot one night during homework and writing/paper looked odd. He would erase and

not rewrite, or if a letter didn't look " right " he had to draw a line from the

letter to the top of the page. His writing, which used to be a bit large (motor

skill) was much smaller and what I called " chicken scratch " it was just

illegible. He started

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I love this post! I was about to ask a couple days ago for ideas for getting a

much -needed break! Can't really do a spa (lol) but I can do chocolate!

It's kind of discouraging for me to have one of the " worser " cases of OCD on

this list - to where my son can't go out or keep up a normal life any more. But

my sister has a son with Down syndrome and he's always been severe - still

doesn't talk at 13. So I have a great model there of accepting that there's a

range of severity with this type of thing and just being able to love our kids

no matter where they're at. She's great at that.

Rhonda

Re: Rhonda - re my son

Rhonda, it was rough and days I thought I wouldn't survive (literally, felt if

I relaxed I'd collapse and be in hospital with exhaustion!).

But this group was good to read at, to vent to, knew I wasn't alone in dealing

with OCD in my/family life. So I learned to take time for me each day, just

minutes here and there. Keep a fav romance novel in the bathroom, make several

trips a day to bathroom, lol. My own chocolate (not to be shared w/kids), take

10-15 minutes for a cup of coffee and chocolate (my fav combo) while I had music

on or watched a bit of TV. I like outside yard work, so mowing lawn was a great

day, lol. Go the long way around when coming home from work or store (alone) and

listening to radio. Ice cream sundae 3 days in a row. Really helped. ....Notice

a lot of mine revolve around food, lol! Because generally I would avoid those

foods for months, so they were TREATS for me and I darn well deserved them!

>

> Hi Chris

>

> Thanks so much for taking time to write that out - it really helps me to see

it over the span of years and how you managed it day to day. In some ways it

feels like learning a foreign language - so puzzling, so incomprehensible, yet

it's the language that all of a sudden my son is speaking and I have to try to

learn it overnight, without a dictionary. And then the language itself can

change overnight. Hearing how you coped with it, and your son is now thriving,

is so encouraging!

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Rhonda,

Sending many good thoughts and prayers your way. I think it will be wonderful to

get your son into a treatment center. How does he feel about going?

> - I am totally thrilled to hear this news about your son as well!!! We

are now waiting on Medicaid authorization to take son to ER before admitting to

treatment center. I am already getting butterflies of all the unknowns. It's

wonderful to see someone on ahead leaving footprints! :)

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> Rhonda

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> Re: Rhonda - re my son

>

> , that's wonderful that he is starting to talk about it a little!! He's

on his way to getting better!

>

> With , it was easy for him to see those physical rituals/routines and

having to do things over as OCD. But the thoughts I guess are so " invisible " and

he said once he had some when younger to, guess it just wasn't to a bad degree.

So for him that is personality/person related, not OCD. Sigh! Hopefully your son

will see some of those physical things/reactions/routines...as OCD as therapy

moves along. I wonder if he has any " bad thoughts. " With 's earlier OCD,

he said something bad would happen to him if he didn't do them AND he had to get

a " just right " feeling. I used to wonder if he was having " thoughts " before

doing any but he told me no.

>

> So happy your son is opening up, must be feeling better and more comfortable

there, which says a lot about !

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> >

> > Wow, that is quite a story about your son and what you both have been

through!! You both are real troopers, that is for sure! It sounds like your son

had a pretty good insight into what was going on with his OCD as he got older,

which I'm sure was helpful to him and to you.

> >

> > What you said about having the son with the " weird OCD " that really hit home

with me! After being on this list and reading the wide variety of issues this

kids deal with, I don't think there is any such thing now as " weird OCD. " It

really does encompass such a broad spectrum of symptoms, behaviors, rituals,

obsessions, etc.

> >

> > And on that note, a little bit of encouraging news with my son. His

psychiatrist said he's just now beginning to open up more to him about his OCD.

And although he doesn't really understand it himself and can't really articulate

too much at this point, at least he's giving them something they can start

working with.

> >

> > :)

> >

> > > Hi Rhonda, gee, how to keep this short! so much to cover.

> > >

> > > OK - in 6th grade, age 11.5 or so, OCD just seemed to come on overnight.

> > > He'd been in school just 2 or 3 weeks, was fine. I noticed him erasing a

lot one night during homework and writing/paper looked odd. He would erase and

not rewrite, or if a letter didn't look " right " he had to draw a line from the

letter to the top of the page. His writing, which used to be a bit large (motor

skill) was much smaller and what I called " chicken scratch " it was just

illegible. He started

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congratulations on your son's progress and his Job interview! That

really gives me hope for my daughter, as I worry a lot about her future. And

being that I live in NC too and know how hard it is to find a job here, even

without any issues, I am even more excited for your son. I will keep my fingers

crossed for him!

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> > > -

> > >

> > > If you ever have time, can you tell the story of your son again? I've got

it in bits and pieces but it would be great to hear all the way through. Did he

ever take medication? What recovery path did he follow? How did you do it

without a therapist?

> > >

> > > thanks bunches

> > > Rhonda

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