Update from

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on the

main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our plan on

time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had to pull

off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap and water

to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3 days in

very warm weather.

Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of the

car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty long,

so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the sofas

while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up to go

out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look down

and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I was

mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we were

admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was water.

He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty room

was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert 24/7

for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your words of

support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this awful ordeal.

Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

[Guest guest]

Oh, you have got the biggest support system in the world right here, and I

know I speak for all members of this board by saying everyone is praying for you

and your son.  Please keep the updates coming, as we all feel very vested in

his well being and recovery. 

Kind Regards,

________________________________

To:

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:50 PM

Subject: Update from

 

Hi all,

So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on the

main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our plan on

time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had to pull

off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap and water

to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3 days in

very warm weather.

Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of the

car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty long,

so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the sofas

while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up to go

out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look down

and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I was

mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we were

admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was water.

He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty room

was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert 24/7

for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your words of

support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this awful ordeal.

Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

[Guest guest]

,

I truely believe the worst is behind you....better days are ahead for everyone.

Keeping you in our prayers along with the special people there seems to be at

- It sounds like he is exactly where he needs to be to get well - which

he will!

Thanks for letting us know how it went...

>

> Hi all,

>

> So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

>

> Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

>

> The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

>

> On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on

the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

>

> Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

>

> When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

>

> The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of

the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

>

> Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

>

> He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

>

> So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

>

> Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

>

> I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your words

of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this awful

ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am new to this board and haven't commented before but I just want to add to

the comments how proud I am of all you did to hang in there through that whole

long day! What resourcefulness and determination --- my heart was pounding and I

wasn't even there! I can tell how much you love your son and what it means to

know he is with people who are trained to treat his condition and bring HIM

back. My son is 17 - just a little older than yours - and has some extreme

issues also -- I'm so encouraged by your grit and determination not to give up!

I hope to be asking some questions here but I have so many I haven't sorted out

which ones to ask yet!!

Rhonda

Update from

Hi all,

So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on

the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of

the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your words

of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this awful

ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

[Guest guest]

Wow, Rhonda, I am so sorry you have had to deal with this and your son has, it

sounds so incredibly difficult for both of you!!! But I am thrilled to hear

about the therapist working with him, it sounds like things are definitely

looking up, that is wonderful!!

How old is your son? I will definitely check out that book you mention, it is

astounding what OCD and other mental disorders can do to the mind and how

quickly they can take over and make the children we once knew all but disappear.

I hope your son continues on his road to recovery and it sounds like he is ready

and willing to do that.

Hugs,

> My son is about where yours was a year ago - and I've gone through the same

route of totally not being able to comprehend how fast OCD can take over. We

also saw some " signs " but also hoped it was a " phase. " We had other family

issues that took priority (WRONG!).

>

> My son is now housebound - will not go out because he doesn't want to do all

the cleaning rituals when he comes home. Won't change clothes because doesn't

want to clean new clothes. Still functional in terms of sitting using his laptop

all his waking hours, but stays up for 30 hours at a time, then sleeps 16-17

hours. We thank God that we have a therapist who has come to our home to work

with him and begin ERP. Son has done ERP 3 times now and is asking for it every

day. THANK GOD!! So far he has rubbed his pant leg against his desk. It looks

like a very long, long road ahead, but AT LEAST WE ARE GOING UP, NOT DOWN!

>

> If you read the book " Life in Rewind " you will see a picture as dark as it can

get, yet that guy recovered. It all came down to when HE realized it was up to

HIM. No one could rescue him. Our therapist has worked that way from the

beginning. It's up to my son to make up HIS mind as to what he wants his life to

be. Hope I'm not on a soapbox - it has taken me a long time to get here.

>

> warmly

> Rhonda

>

> Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on

the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of

the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Wow, Rhonda, I am so sorry you have had to deal with this and your son has, it

sounds so incredibly difficult for both of you!!! But I am thrilled to hear

about the therapist working with him, it sounds like things are definitely

looking up, that is wonderful!!

How old is your son? I will definitely check out that book you mention, it is

astounding what OCD and other mental disorders can do to the mind and how

quickly they can take over and make the children we once knew all but disappear.

I hope your son continues on his road to recovery and it sounds like he is ready

and willing to do that.

Hugs,

> My son is about where yours was a year ago - and I've gone through the same

route of totally not being able to comprehend how fast OCD can take over. We

also saw some " signs " but also hoped it was a " phase. " We had other family

issues that took priority (WRONG!).

>

> My son is now housebound - will not go out because he doesn't want to do all

the cleaning rituals when he comes home. Won't change clothes because doesn't

want to clean new clothes. Still functional in terms of sitting using his laptop

all his waking hours, but stays up for 30 hours at a time, then sleeps 16-17

hours. We thank God that we have a therapist who has come to our home to work

with him and begin ERP. Son has done ERP 3 times now and is asking for it every

day. THANK GOD!! So far he has rubbed his pant leg against his desk. It looks

like a very long, long road ahead, but AT LEAST WE ARE GOING UP, NOT DOWN!

>

> If you read the book " Life in Rewind " you will see a picture as dark as it can

get, yet that guy recovered. It all came down to when HE realized it was up to

HIM. No one could rescue him. Our therapist has worked that way from the

beginning. It's up to my son to make up HIS mind as to what he wants his life to

be. Hope I'm not on a soapbox - it has taken me a long time to get here.

>

> warmly

> Rhonda

>

> Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on

the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of

the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your encouragement, !! I love how supportive folks are on this

list. My son is 17 and we did not get him on medication before he decided he

would not leave the house -- and the clothing issue has made it even more

difficult. We are using Vitamin B, SAM-E and St. 's Wort to try to affect

his mood some, but I keep wondering if things would move faster if he could try

some meds. However I haven't thought of a way for him to even see a doctor. Our

county mental health center will not do home visits for minors. Plus once all

those medical instruments - and doctor - have touched him, he will have to clean

until he drops from exhaustion. I would appreciate any thoughts or ideas!

Rhonda

Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason

it bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but

I don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over

on the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car,

then once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the

parking lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have

handled it on my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a

lifesaver because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to

try anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I

left my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and

back, and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick

out to pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out

of the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to

talk with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled

it! My son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got

down on one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown

away with how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible

state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a

terrible time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress

of the whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment

for any teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the

whole operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it

comes to getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in

my son's case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's

wasted away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a

complete recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and

said the same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in

every respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he

has issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin

the work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to

return home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your encouragement, !! I love how supportive folks are on this

list. My son is 17 and we did not get him on medication before he decided he

would not leave the house -- and the clothing issue has made it even more

difficult. We are using Vitamin B, SAM-E and St. 's Wort to try to affect

his mood some, but I keep wondering if things would move faster if he could try

some meds. However I haven't thought of a way for him to even see a doctor. Our

county mental health center will not do home visits for minors. Plus once all

those medical instruments - and doctor - have touched him, he will have to clean

until he drops from exhaustion. I would appreciate any thoughts or ideas!

Rhonda

Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason

it bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but

I don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over

on the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car,

then once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the

parking lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have

handled it on my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a

lifesaver because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to

try anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I

left my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and

back, and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick

out to pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out

of the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to

talk with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled

it! My son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got

down on one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown

away with how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible

state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a

terrible time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress

of the whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment

for any teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the

whole operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it

comes to getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in

my son's case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's

wasted away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a

complete recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and

said the same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in

every respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he

has issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin

the work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to

return home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I was delighted to see your post -- you and your son have been in my thoughts

all week long. I think everyone here feels an almost personal connection to you

and your situation. So happy to hear that you made it to -- you have

absoutly done the right thing. I hope that you will be able to take some

much-needed time for yourself, now that you have some breathing room.

Sending positive thoughts your way,

Lee in CA

Update from

Hi all,

So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on the

main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our plan on

time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had to pull

off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap and water

to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3 days in

very warm weather.

Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of the

car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty long,

so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the sofas

while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up to go

out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look down

and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I was

mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we were

admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was water.

He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty room

was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert 24/7

for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your words of

support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this awful ordeal.

Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

[Guest guest]

,

I was delighted to see your post -- you and your son have been in my thoughts

all week long. I think everyone here feels an almost personal connection to you

and your situation. So happy to hear that you made it to -- you have

absoutly done the right thing. I hope that you will be able to take some

much-needed time for yourself, now that you have some breathing room.

Sending positive thoughts your way,

Lee in CA

Update from

Hi all,

So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on the

main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our plan on

time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had to pull

off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap and water

to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3 days in

very warm weather.

Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of the

car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty long,

so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the sofas

while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up to go

out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look down

and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I was

mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we were

admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was water.

He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty room

was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert 24/7

for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your words of

support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this awful ordeal.

Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much, Lee! I am slowly getting used to a new " normal " here without my

son. Went to the salon to get my hair done today, something I haven't done in

well over 6 months!

>

> ,

> I was delighted to see your post -- you and your son have been in my thoughts

all week long. I think everyone here feels an almost personal connection to you

and your situation. So happy to hear that you made it to -- you have

absoutly done the right thing. I hope that you will be able to take some

much-needed time for yourself, now that you have some breathing room.

> Sending positive thoughts your way,

> Lee in CA

>

> Update from

>

> Hi all,

>

> So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

>

> Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

>

> The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

>

> On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on

the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

>

> Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

>

> When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

>

> The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of

the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

>

> Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

>

> He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

>

> So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

>

> Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

>

> I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your words

of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this awful

ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had severe OCD at the age of your son that got worse and worse until I finally

got on medication. The difference once I got on medication was near miraculous.

Back then the only medication available (and I had to travel out of country to

Canada to get it) was Anafranil. My 12 year old twins have OCD and both have

done so much better on medication.

Re: Update from

Thanks for your encouragement, !! I love how supportive folks are on this

list. My son is 17 and we did not get him on medication before he decided he

would not leave the house -- and the clothing issue has made it even more

difficult. We are using Vitamin B, SAM-E and St. 's Wort to try to affect

his mood some, but I keep wondering if things would move faster if he could try

some meds. However I haven't thought of a way for him to even see a doctor. Our

county mental health center will not do home visits for minors. Plus once all

those medical instruments - and doctor - have touched him, he will have to clean

until he drops from exhaustion. I would appreciate any thoughts or ideas!

Rhonda

Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason

it bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but

I don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over

on the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car,

then once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the

parking lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have

handled it on my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a

lifesaver because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to

try anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I

left my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and

back, and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick

out to pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out

of the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to

talk with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled

it! My son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got

down on one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown

away with how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible

state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a

terrible time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress

of the whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment

for any teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the

whole operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it

comes to getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in

my son's case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's

wasted away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a

complete recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and

said the same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in

every respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he

has issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin

the work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to

return home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I had severe OCD at the age of your son that got worse and worse until I finally

got on medication. The difference once I got on medication was near miraculous.

Back then the only medication available (and I had to travel out of country to

Canada to get it) was Anafranil. My 12 year old twins have OCD and both have

done so much better on medication.

Re: Update from

Thanks for your encouragement, !! I love how supportive folks are on this

list. My son is 17 and we did not get him on medication before he decided he

would not leave the house -- and the clothing issue has made it even more

difficult. We are using Vitamin B, SAM-E and St. 's Wort to try to affect

his mood some, but I keep wondering if things would move faster if he could try

some meds. However I haven't thought of a way for him to even see a doctor. Our

county mental health center will not do home visits for minors. Plus once all

those medical instruments - and doctor - have touched him, he will have to clean

until he drops from exhaustion. I would appreciate any thoughts or ideas!

Rhonda

Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason

it bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but

I don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over

on the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car,

then once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the

parking lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have

handled it on my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a

lifesaver because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to

try anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I

left my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and

back, and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick

out to pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out

of the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to

talk with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled

it! My son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got

down on one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown

away with how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible

state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a

terrible time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress

of the whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment

for any teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the

whole operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it

comes to getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in

my son's case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's

wasted away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a

complete recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and

said the same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in

every respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he

has issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin

the work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to

return home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

i have tears of relief and of sadness for you, how you have managed to do this

and get him to a safe place and kept your strength, its amazing, you have

inspired all of us here to keep going, hoping you get some news of small

improvements in the coming weeks,

maree

>

> Thanks so much, Lee! I am slowly getting used to a new " normal " here without

my son. Went to the salon to get my hair done today, something I haven't done in

well over 6 months!

>

>

>

>

> >

> > ,

> > I was delighted to see your post -- you and your son have been in my

thoughts all week long. I think everyone here feels an almost personal

connection to you and your situation. So happy to hear that you made it to

-- you have absoutly done the right thing. I hope that you will be able

to take some much-needed time for yourself, now that you have some breathing

room.

> > Sending positive thoughts your way,

> > Lee in CA

> >

> > Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on

the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of

the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

i have tears of relief and of sadness for you, how you have managed to do this

and get him to a safe place and kept your strength, its amazing, you have

inspired all of us here to keep going, hoping you get some news of small

improvements in the coming weeks,

maree

>

> Thanks so much, Lee! I am slowly getting used to a new " normal " here without

my son. Went to the salon to get my hair done today, something I haven't done in

well over 6 months!

>

>

>

>

> >

> > ,

> > I was delighted to see your post -- you and your son have been in my

thoughts all week long. I think everyone here feels an almost personal

connection to you and your situation. So happy to hear that you made it to

-- you have absoutly done the right thing. I hope that you will be able

to take some much-needed time for yourself, now that you have some breathing

room.

> > Sending positive thoughts your way,

> > Lee in CA

> >

> > Update from

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > So sorry I couldn't post earlier. I tried a few times but for some reason it

bounced back via webmail.

> >

> > Well.......I am back home now, just flew in this evening. My son is now at

's, and not a moment too soon! I'm glad I prepped myself mentally for a

nightmare ordeal getting him there because it definitely was one. From beginning

to end, every step of the way he was extremely difficult to deal with.

> >

> > The MD did an amazing job with the " intervention " on Tuesday morning, but I

don't think anyone could have done a good enough job for my son not to

completely flip out about going. Despite giving him Ativan and later on some

Valium, neither one phased him in the least or helped with his major

anxiety/stress.

> >

> > On top of everything else, on the way to the airport a crane toppled over on

the main highway so we had to sit for an hour not moving and barely made our

plan on time. Meanwhile, my son peed all over the back seat of my car so we had

to pull off the highway and I had to run in the store and get a dishrag, soap

and water to clean it because I was leaving the car in the parking garage for 3

days in very warm weather.

> >

> > Every step of the way, my son didn't want to get in our out of the car, then

once he finally got out at the airport he sat down on the ground in the parking

lot. If my STBX husband wasn't there, there's no way I could have handled it on

my own. Even with the two of us it was almost impossible!

> >

> > When we got to the terminal, I grabbed a wheelchair and that was a lifesaver

because an attendant pushed the wheelchair so my son wasn't going to try

anything with someone else pushing. We get through security and I realize I left

my cell phone in the car. I go running top speed to the parking lot and back,

and after I come back I find out that while I was gone who do they pick out to

pat down??? My son in the wheelchair!! Totally freaked him out and he was

already so stressed to begin with!

> >

> > The next morning, we finally got him to 's then he wouldn't get out of

the car. Eventually he did get out and the program Director came outside to talk

with him and start the process. We were SO impressed with how he handled it! My

son was sitting on the bench outside, so the directory immediately got down on

one knee to be at eye level with him and started talking. I was blown away with

how he was able to really connect with my son despite his terrible state.

> >

> > Eventually he signed the paperwork and was admitted.The process was pretty

long, so he mostly sat in a chair outside in the hall or laid on one of the

sofas while my husband and I met and talked with everyone. At one point I got up

to go out in the hall and check on my son. He was sitting in a chair and I look

down and his shorts are soaking wet, he had peed in the chair!! One one hand I

was mortified, but on the other hand I was glad that it happened right as we

were admitting him so they could see first-hand. As usual, he insisted it was

water.

> >

> > He is miserable there now, but that's to be expected. He's having a terrible

time with his tics, but that's to be expected as well from the stress of the

whole thing. Even under the best of circumstances it's a huge adjustment for any

teenager to be away from home, but especially under these circumstances.

> >

> > So far, we are VERY impressed with all the staff, the facility and the whole

operation. They do not seem to leave any stone unturned there when it comes to

getting every minute detail about the kids during admitting. I think in my son's

case it will be a pretty long haul because despite the fact that he's wasted

away to nothing, is peeing all over the place, and living the life of a complete

recluse, he still insists that there is " nothing wrong with him, " and said the

same to his psychiatrist and therapist. He is in such SEVERE denial in every

respect that to get him to the point of recognizing and acknowledging he has

issues will be no easy feat. Then, and only then, will he be able to begin the

work with CBT, ERP, etc. to get to the point of eventually being able to return

home.

> >

> > Coming home to a childless home this evening and walking by my son's empty

room was so very difficult and heartbreaking. I have been living on high-alert

24/7 for such a long time now dealing with my son that my nervous system became

accustomed to that and it's going to be really tough making such a big

adjustment to almost an opposite extreme. I'm trying to take things one day at a

time now, it's the only way to do this. I just hope and pray that my son's case

is not too complex or too advanced at this point for 's to help him.

> >

> > I was thinking of you all while i was there and remembering all of your

words of support and encouragement, and it truly helped me get through this

awful ordeal. Thanks SO much again, from the bottom of my heart!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

How wonderful to read your update . Such positive things happening for you

and your son!!!

Just wanted to say the secretive part is pretty common, esp with teens. Most in

our local support group have same issue. Hard to do therapy when they won't

talk

Happy Birthday to your son, hope it's another good visit! These big dates kind

of become etched in the memory, with this disorder helping mark the dates, in

terms of how they are doing, I find.

Interesting about the tics. Heard others say they found they were actually

rituals. Probably some overlap, I'm guessing.

Must have been something to see Dave perform. What a great guy. Loved him on

Idol.

My fingers and toes will be crossed for you about the insurance!!! Hope you are

making the most of you " freedom " from the OCD, good to rest up and regroup.

Your son is very wise about attending a boarding school. So hard to maintain

the gains once they leave.

Warmly,

Barb

>

> Hi all,

>

> So sorry I haven't posted in a while. Juggling WAY too many things at once and

finding it difficult to come up for air! The good news is that my son is

continuing to show improvement and make progress at 's. He's come such a

long way since he was admitted almost 3 months ago. They truly are miracle

workers there!

>

> He still has a ways to go and one of the things that has been a challenge is

that a big part of his OCD is keeping his OCD a secret. In other words, he's

told his doctor that if he divulges much of what is driving his OCD then he'll

have bad luck, so he has to keep a lot of his OCD a secret! He is starting to

give little bits and pieces here and there, but he's definitely a complex kid!

>

> His tics have gone way down, thank God, and it's seeming now that his tics are

more of a " ritual " than they are just neurological. I think the combination of

the meds and the therapy and becoming acclimated to his surroundings, peers and

treatment team, have all contributed to lessening his tics. I visited him this

past weekend and his tics were really minimal. He was able to stay out with me

for 8 hours 2 days in a row, which was HUGE! Granted, it was a struggle and he

kept fixating on having to go back to do his tics, but with my encouragement and

not enabling him he was able to push through.

>

> Next visit will be the end of this month for my son's 16th birthday! Oh, and

get this.....he actually told his doctor yesterday that he's very concerned

about coming home because home is where this all began and he realizes that it

would be extremely difficult for him to function without the support of his

treatment team and his peers. He then told his doctor that he's very interested

in going to therapeutic boarding school. I cannot tell you how blown away I am

at how insightful and honest he is about his concerns!

>

> We're still not totally out of the woods with the Blue Cross situation and

today was the review, so I'm praying that they did not request another peer to

peer and that we won't have to deal with another denial at this juncture!

>

> Last, but not least, I was SO thrilled to be a part of coordinating a

performance at 's by former American Idol contestant, Dave Pittman this

past Friday. Dave has Tourette's and does a lot of work with TSA. I met him at

the TSA conference a few months ago and then found out he was planning to visit

Wisconsin so I was able to help arrange for him to make a stop at 's to

perform. He and his manager are the nicest guys ever and nearly 100 residents

and staff from different programs at 's attended Dave's performance.

http://www.rogershospital.org/news/american-idol's-dave-pittman-thanks-rogers- " a\

mazing " -work

>

> After the performance, I tagged along on a tour of 's, which was awesome.

It really is an amazing place and if it wasn't so darn freezing there in the

winters, I'd seriously consider moving there to get a job at 's!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How wonderful to read your update . Such positive things happening for you

and your son!!!

Just wanted to say the secretive part is pretty common, esp with teens. Most in

our local support group have same issue. Hard to do therapy when they won't

talk

Happy Birthday to your son, hope it's another good visit! These big dates kind

of become etched in the memory, with this disorder helping mark the dates, in

terms of how they are doing, I find.

Interesting about the tics. Heard others say they found they were actually

rituals. Probably some overlap, I'm guessing.

Must have been something to see Dave perform. What a great guy. Loved him on

Idol.

My fingers and toes will be crossed for you about the insurance!!! Hope you are

making the most of you " freedom " from the OCD, good to rest up and regroup.

Your son is very wise about attending a boarding school. So hard to maintain

the gains once they leave.

Warmly,

Barb

>

> Hi all,

>

> So sorry I haven't posted in a while. Juggling WAY too many things at once and

finding it difficult to come up for air! The good news is that my son is

continuing to show improvement and make progress at 's. He's come such a

long way since he was admitted almost 3 months ago. They truly are miracle

workers there!

>

> He still has a ways to go and one of the things that has been a challenge is

that a big part of his OCD is keeping his OCD a secret. In other words, he's

told his doctor that if he divulges much of what is driving his OCD then he'll

have bad luck, so he has to keep a lot of his OCD a secret! He is starting to

give little bits and pieces here and there, but he's definitely a complex kid!

>

> His tics have gone way down, thank God, and it's seeming now that his tics are

more of a " ritual " than they are just neurological. I think the combination of

the meds and the therapy and becoming acclimated to his surroundings, peers and

treatment team, have all contributed to lessening his tics. I visited him this

past weekend and his tics were really minimal. He was able to stay out with me

for 8 hours 2 days in a row, which was HUGE! Granted, it was a struggle and he

kept fixating on having to go back to do his tics, but with my encouragement and

not enabling him he was able to push through.

>

> Next visit will be the end of this month for my son's 16th birthday! Oh, and

get this.....he actually told his doctor yesterday that he's very concerned

about coming home because home is where this all began and he realizes that it

would be extremely difficult for him to function without the support of his

treatment team and his peers. He then told his doctor that he's very interested

in going to therapeutic boarding school. I cannot tell you how blown away I am

at how insightful and honest he is about his concerns!

>

> We're still not totally out of the woods with the Blue Cross situation and

today was the review, so I'm praying that they did not request another peer to

peer and that we won't have to deal with another denial at this juncture!

>

> Last, but not least, I was SO thrilled to be a part of coordinating a

performance at 's by former American Idol contestant, Dave Pittman this

past Friday. Dave has Tourette's and does a lot of work with TSA. I met him at

the TSA conference a few months ago and then found out he was planning to visit

Wisconsin so I was able to help arrange for him to make a stop at 's to

perform. He and his manager are the nicest guys ever and nearly 100 residents

and staff from different programs at 's attended Dave's performance.

http://www.rogershospital.org/news/american-idol's-dave-pittman-thanks-rogers- " a\

mazing " -work

>

> After the performance, I tagged along on a tour of 's, which was awesome.

It really is an amazing place and if it wasn't so darn freezing there in the

winters, I'd seriously consider moving there to get a job at 's!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, this is the best chapter yet!! You are a hero and so is your son. It must

have been wonderful to spend so much time with him!!

Rhonda

Update from

Hi all,

So sorry I haven't posted in a while. Juggling WAY too many things at once and

finding it difficult to come up for air! The good news is that my son is

continuing to show improvement and make progress at 's. He's come such a

long way since he was admitted almost 3 months ago. They truly are miracle

workers there!

He still has a ways to go and one of the things that has been a challenge is

that a big part of his OCD is keeping his OCD a secret. In other words, he's

told his doctor that if he divulges much of what is driving his OCD then he'll

have bad luck, so he has to keep a lot of his OCD a secret! He is starting to

give little bits and pieces here and there, but he's definitely a complex kid!

His tics have gone way down, thank God, and it's seeming now that his tics are

more of a " ritual " than they are just neurological. I think the combination of

the meds and the therapy and becoming acclimated to his surroundings, peers and

treatment team, have all contributed to lessening his tics. I visited him this

past weekend and his tics were really minimal. He was able to stay out with me

for 8 hours 2 days in a row, which was HUGE! Granted, it was a struggle and he

kept fixating on having to go back to do his tics, but with my encouragement and

not enabling him he was able to push through.

Next visit will be the end of this month for my son's 16th birthday! Oh, and

get this.....he actually told his doctor yesterday that he's very concerned

about coming home because home is where this all began and he realizes that it

would be extremely difficult for him to function without the support of his

treatment team and his peers. He then told his doctor that he's very interested

in going to therapeutic boarding school. I cannot tell you how blown away I am

at how insightful and honest he is about his concerns!

We're still not totally out of the woods with the Blue Cross situation and

today was the review, so I'm praying that they did not request another peer to

peer and that we won't have to deal with another denial at this juncture!

Last, but not least, I was SO thrilled to be a part of coordinating a

performance at 's by former American Idol contestant, Dave Pittman this

past Friday. Dave has Tourette's and does a lot of work with TSA. I met him at

the TSA conference a few months ago and then found out he was planning to visit

Wisconsin so I was able to help arrange for him to make a stop at 's to

perform. He and his manager are the nicest guys ever and nearly 100 residents

and staff from different programs at 's attended Dave's performance.

http://www.rogershospital.org/news/american-idol’s-dave-pittman-thanks-rogers-“a\

mazing”-work

After the performance, I tagged along on a tour of 's, which was awesome.

It really is an amazing place and if it wasn't so darn freezing there in the

winters, I'd seriously consider moving there to get a job at 's!

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[Guest guest]

Wow, this is the best chapter yet!! You are a hero and so is your son. It must

have been wonderful to spend so much time with him!!

Rhonda

Update from

Hi all,

So sorry I haven't posted in a while. Juggling WAY too many things at once and

finding it difficult to come up for air! The good news is that my son is

continuing to show improvement and make progress at 's. He's come such a

long way since he was admitted almost 3 months ago. They truly are miracle

workers there!

He still has a ways to go and one of the things that has been a challenge is

that a big part of his OCD is keeping his OCD a secret. In other words, he's

told his doctor that if he divulges much of what is driving his OCD then he'll

have bad luck, so he has to keep a lot of his OCD a secret! He is starting to

give little bits and pieces here and there, but he's definitely a complex kid!

His tics have gone way down, thank God, and it's seeming now that his tics are

more of a " ritual " than they are just neurological. I think the combination of

the meds and the therapy and becoming acclimated to his surroundings, peers and

treatment team, have all contributed to lessening his tics. I visited him this

past weekend and his tics were really minimal. He was able to stay out with me

for 8 hours 2 days in a row, which was HUGE! Granted, it was a struggle and he

kept fixating on having to go back to do his tics, but with my encouragement and

not enabling him he was able to push through.

Next visit will be the end of this month for my son's 16th birthday! Oh, and

get this.....he actually told his doctor yesterday that he's very concerned

about coming home because home is where this all began and he realizes that it

would be extremely difficult for him to function without the support of his

treatment team and his peers. He then told his doctor that he's very interested

in going to therapeutic boarding school. I cannot tell you how blown away I am

at how insightful and honest he is about his concerns!

We're still not totally out of the woods with the Blue Cross situation and

today was the review, so I'm praying that they did not request another peer to

peer and that we won't have to deal with another denial at this juncture!

Last, but not least, I was SO thrilled to be a part of coordinating a

performance at 's by former American Idol contestant, Dave Pittman this

past Friday. Dave has Tourette's and does a lot of work with TSA. I met him at

the TSA conference a few months ago and then found out he was planning to visit

Wisconsin so I was able to help arrange for him to make a stop at 's to

perform. He and his manager are the nicest guys ever and nearly 100 residents

and staff from different programs at 's attended Dave's performance.

http://www.rogershospital.org/news/american-idol’s-dave-pittman-thanks-rogers-“a\

mazing”-work

After the performance, I tagged along on a tour of 's, which was awesome.

It really is an amazing place and if it wasn't so darn freezing there in the

winters, I'd seriously consider moving there to get a job at 's!

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[Guest guest]

Wow, he really has come a long way in 3 months! Happy he is opening up more &

more and feeling comfortable at . And really happy he is pretty

insightful and considering the therapeutic school and realizes that " home " may

cause some initial struggles, though hopefully that would be minimal...Wonder do

they ever get like a " weekend home " trip from , or would that break that

" insurance " cycle/billing?

>

> Hi all,

>

> So sorry I haven't posted in a while. Juggling WAY too many things at once and

finding it difficult to come up for air! The good news is that my son is

continuing to show improvement and make progress at 's. He's come such a

long way since he was admitted almost 3 months ago. They truly are miracle

workers there!

>

> He still has a ways to go and one of the things that has been a challenge is

that a big part of his OCD is keeping his OCD a secret. In other words, he's

told his doctor that if he divulges much of what is driving his OCD then he'll

have bad luck, so he has to keep a lot of his OCD a secret! He is starting to

give little bits and pieces here and there, but he's definitely a complex kid!

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Chris!

Unfortunately, like you said, a home visit would not be possible due to

insurance coverage. I had asked them about that last week and they explained

that even an overnight wouldn't be possible as it would be considered a

" discharge " as far as insurance is concerned.

As much as I would love my son to come home after 's, I honestly do not see

how that will be a possibility unless some miracles take place before he is

discharged.

One of the biggest issues, and the reason why everyone including him is very

concerned about him coming home, is that he has very little inner motivation

when it comes to growing up, for lack of a better way to put it. As a result,

he is still so " impaired " in his ability to perform the most basic daily tasks

without constant prompting, and this is even with a whole treatment team 24/7 at

's. So while he's made great strides as far as being able to participate in

outings, his tics lessening, etc., this is and always has been a HUGE stumbling

block with him progressing to a point of being a more independent functioning

teenager and eventually adult.

The other problem is that he has no circle of friends to speak of here, is an

only child, and we live in a somewhat isolated area. I don't see him being able

to drive anytime soon and it would be very easy for him to go right back into

the self-imposed isolation he was in for many months pre 's. Of course I

tried like heck to get him out and about, and would again if he came home, but

I can't twist his arm or force him and without a strong inner motivation, it's

unlikely he'll take it upon himself to get out and about.

Even if I were to move, I still see it being a huge struggle for him being able

to maintain the gains and progress he's made at 's, again due to his lack

of inner motivation. Most importantly, he is only functioning at the level he is

now WITH a full treatment team in place prompting him on a daily basis, and even

then it's a struggle for them getting him up and out of bed, brushing his teeth,

taking showers, cleaning up after himself, etc. If that type of structure is

taken away he'll fall very quickly right through the net.

Believe me, I wish it weren't the case, but I think this is why my son realizes

that coming home would be a problem. If he were able to stay at 's for

another 6 months to a year, then I think him coming home may be much more

realistic, but of course it's not going to be possible for him to stay there

that long. While I realize miracles can and do happen at 's, and some have

already happened with my son, we have to be realistic with what can be

accomplished there.

I'm going to meet with another special ed attorney this week and then we need to

quickly retain one to approach our school district, however we're dealing with a

catch-22, because no one can say at this juncture exactly what type of school

setting he will require, but if we wait until discharge it will be too late by

then.

All I can say is I'm very grateful I only have one child at the moment!!

> Wow, he really has come a long way in 3 months! Happy he is opening up more &

more and feeling comfortable at . And really happy he is pretty insightful

and considering the therapeutic school and realizes that " home " may cause some

initial struggles, though hopefully that would be minimal...Wonder do they ever

get like a " weekend home " trip from , or would that break that " insurance "

cycle/billing?

>

[Guest guest]

That makes a ton of sense, , and good for you for the " insight! " It has

been a pull for me to keep my son busy, and he is even pretty motivated. But

being inactive for so long before treatment did instill some patterns that are

hard to change. At one point I thought son might even move somewhere else

permanently from treatment, because our home was not a safe place for him. So I

understand the tension of knowing you have to do what's best for your son, yet

it can feel sad at the same time. I'm sure with your determination the way will

continue to become clear.

((hugs))

Rhonda

Re: Re: Update from

Thanks, Chris!

Unfortunately, like you said, a home visit would not be possible due to

insurance coverage. I had asked them about that last week and they explained

that even an overnight wouldn't be possible as it would be considered a

" discharge " as far as insurance is concerned.

As much as I would love my son to come home after 's, I honestly do not

see how that will be a possibility unless some miracles take place before he is

discharged.

One of the biggest issues, and the reason why everyone including him is very

concerned about him coming home, is that he has very little inner motivation

when it comes to growing up, for lack of a better way to put it. As a result, he

is still so " impaired " in his ability to perform the most basic daily tasks

without constant prompting, and this is even with a whole treatment team 24/7 at

's. So while he's made great strides as far as being able to participate in

outings, his tics lessening, etc., this is and always has been a HUGE stumbling

block with him progressing to a point of being a more independent functioning

teenager and eventually adult.

The other problem is that he has no circle of friends to speak of here, is an

only child, and we live in a somewhat isolated area. I don't see him being able

to drive anytime soon and it would be very easy for him to go right back into

the self-imposed isolation he was in for many months pre 's. Of course I

tried like heck to get him out and about, and would again if he came home, but I

can't twist his arm or force him and without a strong inner motivation, it's

unlikely he'll take it upon himself to get out and about.

Even if I were to move, I still see it being a huge struggle for him being

able to maintain the gains and progress he's made at 's, again due to his

lack of inner motivation. Most importantly, he is only functioning at the level

he is now WITH a full treatment team in place prompting him on a daily basis,

and even then it's a struggle for them getting him up and out of bed, brushing

his teeth, taking showers, cleaning up after himself, etc. If that type of

structure is taken away he'll fall very quickly right through the net.

Believe me, I wish it weren't the case, but I think this is why my son

realizes that coming home would be a problem. If he were able to stay at 's

for another 6 months to a year, then I think him coming home may be much more

realistic, but of course it's not going to be possible for him to stay there

that long. While I realize miracles can and do happen at 's, and some have

already happened with my son, we have to be realistic with what can be

accomplished there.

I'm going to meet with another special ed attorney this week and then we need

to quickly retain one to approach our school district, however we're dealing

with a catch-22, because no one can say at this juncture exactly what type of

school setting he will require, but if we wait until discharge it will be too

late by then.

All I can say is I'm very grateful I only have one child at the moment!!

> Wow, he really has come a long way in 3 months! Happy he is opening up more

& more and feeling comfortable at . And really happy he is pretty

insightful and considering the therapeutic school and realizes that " home " may

cause some initial struggles, though hopefully that would be minimal...Wonder do

they ever get like a " weekend home " trip from , or would that break that

" insurance " cycle/billing?

>

[Guest guest]

What a wonderful post to read! It is so wonderful to see how far your son has

come since the days when you were waiting and waiting for his admission to

!

Update from

Hi all,

So sorry I haven't posted in a while. Juggling WAY too many things at once and

finding it difficult to come up for air! The good news is that my son is

continuing to show improvement and make progress at 's. He's come such a

long way since he was admitted almost 3 months ago. They truly are miracle

workers there!

He still has a ways to go and one of the things that has been a challenge is

that a big part of his OCD is keeping his OCD a secret. In other words, he's

told his doctor that if he divulges much of what is driving his OCD then he'll

have bad luck, so he has to keep a lot of his OCD a secret! He is starting to

give little bits and pieces here and there, but he's definitely a complex kid!

His tics have gone way down, thank God, and it's seeming now that his tics are

more of a " ritual " than they are just neurological. I think the combination of

the meds and the therapy and becoming acclimated to his surroundings, peers and

treatment team, have all contributed to lessening his tics. I visited him this

past weekend and his tics were really minimal. He was able to stay out with me

for 8 hours 2 days in a row, which was HUGE! Granted, it was a struggle and he

kept fixating on having to go back to do his tics, but with my encouragement and

not enabling him he was able to push through.

Next visit will be the end of this month for my son's 16th birthday! Oh, and get

this.....he actually told his doctor yesterday that he's very concerned about

coming home because home is where this all began and he realizes that it would

be extremely difficult for him to function without the support of his treatment

team and his peers. He then told his doctor that he's very interested in going

to therapeutic boarding school. I cannot tell you how blown away I am at how

insightful and honest he is about his concerns!

We're still not totally out of the woods with the Blue Cross situation and today

was the review, so I'm praying that they did not request another peer to peer

and that we won't have to deal with another denial at this juncture!

Last, but not least, I was SO thrilled to be a part of coordinating a

performance at 's by former American Idol contestant, Dave Pittman this

past Friday. Dave has Tourette's and does a lot of work with TSA. I met him at

the TSA conference a few months ago and then found out he was planning to visit

Wisconsin so I was able to help arrange for him to make a stop at 's to

perform. He and his manager are the nicest guys ever and nearly 100 residents

and staff from different programs at 's attended Dave's performance.

http://www.rogershospital.org/news/american-idol’s-dave-pittman-thanks-rogers-\

“amazingâ€-work

After the performance, I tagged along on a tour of 's, which was awesome.

It really is an amazing place and if it wasn't so darn freezing there in the

winters, I'd seriously consider moving there to get a job at 's!

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