Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 welcome to the group. i hope you find it as helpful as we have. please feel free to ask for any help you need. eric abbys dad **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 welcome to the group. i hope you find it as helpful as we have. please feel free to ask for any help you need. eric abbys dad **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 HI I am Tony, married to Dan live in the south east of England and have two daughters the eldest of which Grace has just been diagnosed with autism. Hope to get to know others form the list Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 In a message dated 6/22/08 8:55:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, micohen@... writes: I am a mother of a 16 year old girl with the diagnosis of Autism, Bipolar, Anxiety Disorder and Seizures. our 11 year old also has issues with anxiety disorder and seizures. we have her on a suplement called de stress it helps a lot. takes the edge off. hope you find the help you need. hang in there. how verbal is she? can she read well. there are some books to help. we got one called 'stress can really get on your nerves' this one helped our abby. eric abbys dad ps we are in michigan **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hi all! I wanted to introduce myself. I am a mother of a 16 year old girl with the diagnosis of Autism, Bipolar, Anxiety Disorder and Seizures. I am striving for her to be as independent as possible and I want her to learn forever and get a job one day. I home school my daughter and have done so for the last 6 years. She is doing great but her monthly homones changes are a real challenge. I am looking for anyone that has had great success in teaching how to cope through the changes since she refuses to work and and she sleeps so much the week before. I can't believe it took me this long to find a girl group! I am so glad to find others that may have lived it and is living it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Thanks ! Whew, I wasn't sure he would finish in time, what with some of the close calls on a couple class grades! Sigh, now it's job time, not looking forward to this but excited that maybe he'll find something that fits him well. He hasn't started looking yet, but has to SOON, starts paying student loan back in November. > > > > > > > > single mom, 3 sons > > , 22, OCD, dysgraphia, Aspergers > > just finished up at UNC-Chapel Hill!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Thanks ! Whew, I wasn't sure he would finish in time, what with some of the close calls on a couple class grades! Sigh, now it's job time, not looking forward to this but excited that maybe he'll find something that fits him well. He hasn't started looking yet, but has to SOON, starts paying student loan back in November. > > > > > > > > single mom, 3 sons > > , 22, OCD, dysgraphia, Aspergers > > just finished up at UNC-Chapel Hill!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Thanks ! Whew, I wasn't sure he would finish in time, what with some of the close calls on a couple class grades! Sigh, now it's job time, not looking forward to this but excited that maybe he'll find something that fits him well. He hasn't started looking yet, but has to SOON, starts paying student loan back in November. > > > > > > > > single mom, 3 sons > > , 22, OCD, dysgraphia, Aspergers > > just finished up at UNC-Chapel Hill!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 My daughter has no side effects of note, except a bit of constipation that doesn't trouble her and her pulse is quickened but that doesn't trouble her either. I had weight gain from it. I consider it a miracle drug because I had really severe, debilitating OCD, and it gave me my life back. Then when my daughter was in 4th grade, it was clear that she wasn't getting much help from the SSRI's so the psychiatrist and I decided it was worth it for her to try Anafranil since it was so helpful for me, and it was a miracle for her. new to group Hi, I have a 12yr old daughter diagnosed 1yr ago with OCD. We did ERT/CBT for 7 months which worked for handwashing and other things like repeating and checking but her anxiety while she was in school (worried I wouldn't get her from school) continued so we decided to try meds. Prozac was used for 3 1/2 months which caused her to cry and be depressed so we are now doing Zoloft. We aren't really seeing any improvement yet. She is still worried about hair dye getting on her and continues to ask if silverware/dishes are clean. She now doesn't believe she has OCD and will not use anything to do with technology. She won't use phones,computers,watch TV,doesn't want to go in car,won't eat food from fridge now because that is technology. Is this OCD? Our therapist pretty much tells us she can't do much for us anymore and psychiatrist doesn't know what this delusion is. I feel like we are not getting much help or guidance. I'm sorry to make this so long but felt I needed to give the jist of what's going on. I would appreciate ANY kind of input as we feel so lost as to what we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 My daughter has no side effects of note, except a bit of constipation that doesn't trouble her and her pulse is quickened but that doesn't trouble her either. I had weight gain from it. I consider it a miracle drug because I had really severe, debilitating OCD, and it gave me my life back. Then when my daughter was in 4th grade, it was clear that she wasn't getting much help from the SSRI's so the psychiatrist and I decided it was worth it for her to try Anafranil since it was so helpful for me, and it was a miracle for her. new to group Hi, I have a 12yr old daughter diagnosed 1yr ago with OCD. We did ERT/CBT for 7 months which worked for handwashing and other things like repeating and checking but her anxiety while she was in school (worried I wouldn't get her from school) continued so we decided to try meds. Prozac was used for 3 1/2 months which caused her to cry and be depressed so we are now doing Zoloft. We aren't really seeing any improvement yet. She is still worried about hair dye getting on her and continues to ask if silverware/dishes are clean. She now doesn't believe she has OCD and will not use anything to do with technology. She won't use phones,computers,watch TV,doesn't want to go in car,won't eat food from fridge now because that is technology. Is this OCD? Our therapist pretty much tells us she can't do much for us anymore and psychiatrist doesn't know what this delusion is. I feel like we are not getting much help or guidance. I'm sorry to make this so long but felt I needed to give the jist of what's going on. I would appreciate ANY kind of input as we feel so lost as to what we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 My son is now 15 but was dx at age 3. We have had about 5 years of his life that were impossible, heartbreaking and exhausting. However he is doing well now so there is light somewhere in the tunnel. I don't have a young child with it now, but I do know exactly what you are going through and wish you strength throughout the tough times. Keep on going with the CBT/ ERP. Keep an open mind about meds if the CBT is too hard to engage with without them ( our son was recommended to start at age 3 but we held out until age 8 when he stopped eating due to his rituals/ fears) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 My son is now 15 but was dx at age 3. We have had about 5 years of his life that were impossible, heartbreaking and exhausting. However he is doing well now so there is light somewhere in the tunnel. I don't have a young child with it now, but I do know exactly what you are going through and wish you strength throughout the tough times. Keep on going with the CBT/ ERP. Keep an open mind about meds if the CBT is too hard to engage with without them ( our son was recommended to start at age 3 but we held out until age 8 when he stopped eating due to his rituals/ fears) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 My son is now 15 but was dx at age 3. We have had about 5 years of his life that were impossible, heartbreaking and exhausting. However he is doing well now so there is light somewhere in the tunnel. I don't have a young child with it now, but I do know exactly what you are going through and wish you strength throughout the tough times. Keep on going with the CBT/ ERP. Keep an open mind about meds if the CBT is too hard to engage with without them ( our son was recommended to start at age 3 but we held out until age 8 when he stopped eating due to his rituals/ fears) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Oh yes. My dd is 10 and was dx at 4. We have done CBT/ERP only, never any meds. She has had times where her OCD/anxiety were almost non-existant and times where it was so bad she was in the ER. But no meds. I do realize one day she will probably need meds, but we would prefer not to use them if we can control it without meds. She has done biofeedback and loves it and that has helped, as well. We do a lot of visual imagiry and that works well for her, too. Right now she is doing very well. If her mind can be focused on something else, that helps - such as right now she is on crutches and has a full leg knee brace from a knee injury while ice skating. Not that I want her to be hurt, but right now the OCD is under control because she is so focused on this. Sharon ________________________________ To: " " < > Cc: " " < > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Re: New to Group  Has anyone found success with just cbt and no medication ?any positive thoughts or breakthroughs to share that can give us all hope? Sent from my iPhone > Welcome!! I'm glad you joined. You have many years of experience in dealing with OCD. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 17, 2011, at 11:12 AM, " Trabulsy, " wrote: > > > My son is now 15 but was dx at age 3. We have had about 5 years of his life that were impossible, heartbreaking and exhausting. However he is doing well now so there is light somewhere in the tunnel. I don't have a young child with it now, but I do know exactly what you are going through and wish you strength throughout the tough times. Keep on going with the CBT/ ERP. Keep an open mind about meds if the CBT is too hard to engage with without them ( our son was recommended to start at age 3 but we held out until age 8 when he stopped eating due to his rituals/ fears) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 My son is six and is high functioning autistic with Anxiety disorder and OCD. His OCD has worsened Because he also has p.a.nd.a.s. we r seeing So many different specialists for this but my question is OCD meds normally given actually make the pandas Worse. Does anybody on this list have children With pandas and if so what kind of meds if any Seem to help? Thank you, debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi and welcome- My understanding is that normal OCD meds do not make PANDAS worse, but don't treat the underlying problem which is usually treated with antibiotics long term or IV IG (a blood product antibody given intravenously). Â There are many people on the list with kids with PANDAS and a lot more expertise on this than me, and I am sure they will chime in. Â There is also a whole section in the FILES about PANDAS, and I would also recommend the " lattitudes " Â group which I think is all about PANDAS. You can do all the same stuff for regular OCD( meds, CBT/ERP)Â but may not actually need to if the underlying cause is removed. Â I hope that clarifies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi Debbie, so do you mean he is on an SSRI and getting worse? With PANDAS (or even non-PANDAS), you start with the lowest dose that is effective with an SSRI. Although if this is the only SSRI he has tried, another one may work better; many times a child has to trial the different OCD meds to find the *one* that works best for them, first one, second one, may not work well. We only have tried Celexa with my son (23, OCD, dysgraphia, HFA/Aspergers) and it worked well for him. Even PANDAS kids can take an SSRI, but generally you try to treat the PANDAS too, if not first. If he is also on some meds to treat PANDAS? Some children on long-term antibiotics can have reactions (including behavior) to them...can't recall a term for it, but due to the digestive changes. ...OK, googled and found an article on what I mean: http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/what-is-yeast-overgrowth/ And I'm curious -- is the autism worse too or just the OCD? What type OCD behaviors does he have, more the obsessive and/or ritual kind that can go along with autism? single mom, 3 sons > > My son is six and is high functioning autistic with > Anxiety disorder and OCD. His OCD has worsened > Because he also has p.a.nd.a.s. we r seeing > So many different specialists for this but my question is > OCD meds normally given actually make the pandas > Worse. Does anybody on this list have children > With pandas and if so what kind of meds if any > Seem to help? Thank you, debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi Debbie, so do you mean he is on an SSRI and getting worse? With PANDAS (or even non-PANDAS), you start with the lowest dose that is effective with an SSRI. Although if this is the only SSRI he has tried, another one may work better; many times a child has to trial the different OCD meds to find the *one* that works best for them, first one, second one, may not work well. We only have tried Celexa with my son (23, OCD, dysgraphia, HFA/Aspergers) and it worked well for him. Even PANDAS kids can take an SSRI, but generally you try to treat the PANDAS too, if not first. If he is also on some meds to treat PANDAS? Some children on long-term antibiotics can have reactions (including behavior) to them...can't recall a term for it, but due to the digestive changes. ...OK, googled and found an article on what I mean: http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/what-is-yeast-overgrowth/ And I'm curious -- is the autism worse too or just the OCD? What type OCD behaviors does he have, more the obsessive and/or ritual kind that can go along with autism? single mom, 3 sons > > My son is six and is high functioning autistic with > Anxiety disorder and OCD. His OCD has worsened > Because he also has p.a.nd.a.s. we r seeing > So many different specialists for this but my question is > OCD meds normally given actually make the pandas > Worse. Does anybody on this list have children > With pandas and if so what kind of meds if any > Seem to help? Thank you, debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Trudy, I am sorry you are dealing with this. It can be wearing on everyone. We have been doing the therapy but it has been a struggle getting Roy to do the structured CBT stuff. Talked to the pdoc yesterday and he is recommending Roy follow the manual-OCD in children and adolescent: CBT manual by March. I looked it up online and looks like geared toward therapist but parents can read too. Has worksheets to copy off. Doesn't want Roy switching therapist b/c he said important that there is a rapport developed with the therapist in order to do the CBT work. Has seen kids go thru intensive programs, come back and try to do with new therapist. Since rapport is not developed, the kids have difficult time with trust and doing the CBT work. Roy won't read books either and neither will my other son with BP. The BP son will read blogs written by people with BP. Your daughter may be more interested in that or online teen group (on this site). Also look at triggers that may be increasing her anxiety and see if you can manage those. Many things come together to create the perfect OCD storm, I find. Hope this helps. in WI-55 Roy-17. OCD, anxiety, depression,ADD. Prozac, Busbar, Adderall. > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list and new to OCD as well. My daughter is 12 and was diagnosed last summer. Her symptoms don't seem as severe as those I've read on this list so far, however they continue to impact our Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Welcome- I would say it is time to search for a new therapist if the one you have now does not do ERP. And yes, cutting back on the reassurance seeking is a form of ERP that you can start at home. ( YOu can go back and search my endless posts on ERP ) but briefly, your daughter needs someone to explain to her that she has OCD and it is playing tricks on her and creating problems for her and you. You need to tell her that there will be many rewards for fighting it and then set up a reward system ( small daily rewards for doing therapy then bigger ones as she kicls one compulsion after another or at the end of a successful month of engaging with therapy etc.) She thatne needs to rank the " need " to get an answer ( ie is it more important to hear an answer to what time she is being picked up or to agree that the puppy is cute) and pick the one that is the least important to HER to start working on. You and your daughter could agree on how many times a day she is allowed to ask the same question and get an answer and then when she asks the question, say " YOu are only allowed x times…do you really want this to be one of those x times? " If she says yes, give her the answer. When you reach the x time, if she asks again, tell her she has exceeded her number and you are not going to answer. Then over weeks lower how many times she is allowed to ask. Then move on to the next hardest scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Welcome- I would say it is time to search for a new therapist if the one you have now does not do ERP. And yes, cutting back on the reassurance seeking is a form of ERP that you can start at home. ( YOu can go back and search my endless posts on ERP ) but briefly, your daughter needs someone to explain to her that she has OCD and it is playing tricks on her and creating problems for her and you. You need to tell her that there will be many rewards for fighting it and then set up a reward system ( small daily rewards for doing therapy then bigger ones as she kicls one compulsion after another or at the end of a successful month of engaging with therapy etc.) She thatne needs to rank the " need " to get an answer ( ie is it more important to hear an answer to what time she is being picked up or to agree that the puppy is cute) and pick the one that is the least important to HER to start working on. You and your daughter could agree on how many times a day she is allowed to ask the same question and get an answer and then when she asks the question, say " YOu are only allowed x times…do you really want this to be one of those x times? " If she says yes, give her the answer. When you reach the x time, if she asks again, tell her she has exceeded her number and you are not going to answer. Then over weeks lower how many times she is allowed to ask. Then move on to the next hardest scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Hi Trudy, welcome! It may seem her symptoms, or behaviors, aren't as severe, but severity is generally based on how much time a day it takes up, how disruptive they are and so on. And those questions sure can be annoying and exhausting to others, especially if they have to get the " right " answer to some! My son, now 23, had his OCD begin in 6th grade. He's never wanted to read about OCD either. So he had to listen to ME talk about it (explain what it is, talk about how it is worked on and stuff). Tho he probably tuned me out a lot. As others may have said, you can work on this in different ways. Limit the number of questions each day (or hour). Or tell her you will only answer X times to each one; or only answer to X of them each day. Or you won't answer any between 4pm and 7pm.... Maybe there's some scenario or hour that you will purposefully give her the " wrong " answer.... Have her try waiting 1 minute or 5 min before asking (so maybe at some point she doesn't feel the need to ask it!) If there weren't certain scenarios where she needs to ask " in the moment " , I'd suggest she could write them down to ask later, but may not work with her need to have an answer " then. " If she knows that " this " is the Plan, then she will be expecting the way you will respond. Just some quick thoughts. When was young, he asked me a lot of " reassurance " questions repeatedly. Had never heard that term until he got OCD later. But I know how annoying/exhausting it can be having the same question asked X times in an hour. He didn't do this all day, or daily, but knowing how impatient I got then, I can imagine how it must be with OCD having them do this so frequently daily! > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list and new to OCD as well. My daughter is 12 and was diagnosed last summer. Her symptoms don't seem as severe as those I've read on this list so far, however they continue to impact our family in a big way. We have tried two different psychiatrists who each did the therapy part as well, yet I'm not sure at this point the therapy is the appropriate type. No one has explained OCD to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Hi Trudy, welcome! It may seem her symptoms, or behaviors, aren't as severe, but severity is generally based on how much time a day it takes up, how disruptive they are and so on. And those questions sure can be annoying and exhausting to others, especially if they have to get the " right " answer to some! My son, now 23, had his OCD begin in 6th grade. He's never wanted to read about OCD either. So he had to listen to ME talk about it (explain what it is, talk about how it is worked on and stuff). Tho he probably tuned me out a lot. As others may have said, you can work on this in different ways. Limit the number of questions each day (or hour). Or tell her you will only answer X times to each one; or only answer to X of them each day. Or you won't answer any between 4pm and 7pm.... Maybe there's some scenario or hour that you will purposefully give her the " wrong " answer.... Have her try waiting 1 minute or 5 min before asking (so maybe at some point she doesn't feel the need to ask it!) If there weren't certain scenarios where she needs to ask " in the moment " , I'd suggest she could write them down to ask later, but may not work with her need to have an answer " then. " If she knows that " this " is the Plan, then she will be expecting the way you will respond. Just some quick thoughts. When was young, he asked me a lot of " reassurance " questions repeatedly. Had never heard that term until he got OCD later. But I know how annoying/exhausting it can be having the same question asked X times in an hour. He didn't do this all day, or daily, but knowing how impatient I got then, I can imagine how it must be with OCD having them do this so frequently daily! > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list and new to OCD as well. My daughter is 12 and was diagnosed last summer. Her symptoms don't seem as severe as those I've read on this list so far, however they continue to impact our family in a big way. We have tried two different psychiatrists who each did the therapy part as well, yet I'm not sure at this point the therapy is the appropriate type. No one has explained OCD to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I went through the same thing with a therapist with my son. It drove me crazy that he was playing games with my son when my son was a very verbal intelligent boy who needed to actively address his anxiety through ERP, not wasting time with the games. We switched to a therapist who explained OCD to my son and went about making a list of his fears and started attacking them one by one with him through ERP. Both my kids have OCD, and they went to different therapists because therapists felt it wouldn't be right to treat both twins, and each of their therapists had them name the OCD so they had something to refer to as they fought against their OCD bully. I know it seems like your daughter is just trying to control you, which she is, but it isn't because she is enjoying having you wrapped around her finger, but that if you don't do what she has you do, she experiences terrible anxiety. Thus, she isn't doing it for the joy of having you do what she wants you to do, but rather because your not doing it would make her feel so uncomfortable. That said, it doesn't mean you should give into her. The most important thing is for her to understand what OCD is and that her needing to have you answer her questions just so is due to her OCD. Having an OCD therapist is important because the therapist will know the right way to do ERP, but also because then she will see that the hard work is coming from her therapist and her deciding what to work on together, rather than it being imposed from you and thus may make her angry with you. Help is out there and your lives can get so much better. Hang in there! new to group Hi, I'm new to this list and new to OCD as well. My daughter is 12 and was diagnosed last summer. Her symptoms don't seem as severe as those I've read on this list so far, however they continue to impact our family in a big way. We have tried two different psychiatrists who each did the therapy part as well, yet I'm not sure at this point the therapy is the appropriate type. No one has explained OCD to her. They will ask me and my husband what bothers us most and try to set guidelines for her to wean off doing that behavior, and it works to a point but over al, her OCD seems to be getting worse. She may be able to stop a certain behavior but she adds new ones on too. She has been taking 125 mg sertraline / day but there is just a very minor difference. I don't yet know enough about OCD to use proper terminology, but this is what I see happening. Her compulsion is to ask us questions repeatedly. This usually happens at times of separation from us, such as school drop off, bed time, when either she or I leave the house. Even though she knows the answers, she will ask a series of questions over and over again. (Time of return, etc.) They are usually in the same order, and we have to answer a certain way-yes/no, or sometimes " right " , or she gets upset and starts over. There are times when it is obvious the anxiety about separation might be the trigger, but other times it really seems like a control thing, where not getting an answer wouldn't be upsetting, such as " Isn't the expression on our puppy's face cute? " and she will ask that over repeatedly if she doesn't feel my response was satisfactory for any reason. I purchased a few books, they all mention CBT and exposre/RP, and I don't think our psychiatrist is doing it the way the books describe. He's making us as parents responsible by having us pick which scenario is too stressful/annoying for us to answer the questions. He has said he doesn't believe in the exposure approach but is using it because it seems to be working a bit with her. I will investigate a new therapist for her. I have the book, What to do When Your Brain Gets Stuck " My daughter flat out refuses to read it. And why would she want to anyway?? OCD isn't a problem for her because the whole family meets her needs by answering her endless questions. So the doctor plays games (Guess Who...) at each appointment, doesn't require her to address her OCD, and she won't talk about it with us so I feel a bit lost in what direction to take next. I've thought about quitting my part in her rituals, and then maybe she will feel uncomfortable enough to want to address this on her own. She has to want to do it herself. I know many of you have it much worse so I won't complain other than to say it does get very frustrating for us in the moment. And of course we worry about her and if this will increase in the future. Any input would be appreciated. I just need to understand this a bit better. Thanks, Trudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I went through the same thing with a therapist with my son. It drove me crazy that he was playing games with my son when my son was a very verbal intelligent boy who needed to actively address his anxiety through ERP, not wasting time with the games. We switched to a therapist who explained OCD to my son and went about making a list of his fears and started attacking them one by one with him through ERP. Both my kids have OCD, and they went to different therapists because therapists felt it wouldn't be right to treat both twins, and each of their therapists had them name the OCD so they had something to refer to as they fought against their OCD bully. I know it seems like your daughter is just trying to control you, which she is, but it isn't because she is enjoying having you wrapped around her finger, but that if you don't do what she has you do, she experiences terrible anxiety. Thus, she isn't doing it for the joy of having you do what she wants you to do, but rather because your not doing it would make her feel so uncomfortable. That said, it doesn't mean you should give into her. The most important thing is for her to understand what OCD is and that her needing to have you answer her questions just so is due to her OCD. Having an OCD therapist is important because the therapist will know the right way to do ERP, but also because then she will see that the hard work is coming from her therapist and her deciding what to work on together, rather than it being imposed from you and thus may make her angry with you. Help is out there and your lives can get so much better. Hang in there! new to group Hi, I'm new to this list and new to OCD as well. My daughter is 12 and was diagnosed last summer. Her symptoms don't seem as severe as those I've read on this list so far, however they continue to impact our family in a big way. We have tried two different psychiatrists who each did the therapy part as well, yet I'm not sure at this point the therapy is the appropriate type. No one has explained OCD to her. They will ask me and my husband what bothers us most and try to set guidelines for her to wean off doing that behavior, and it works to a point but over al, her OCD seems to be getting worse. She may be able to stop a certain behavior but she adds new ones on too. She has been taking 125 mg sertraline / day but there is just a very minor difference. I don't yet know enough about OCD to use proper terminology, but this is what I see happening. Her compulsion is to ask us questions repeatedly. This usually happens at times of separation from us, such as school drop off, bed time, when either she or I leave the house. Even though she knows the answers, she will ask a series of questions over and over again. (Time of return, etc.) They are usually in the same order, and we have to answer a certain way-yes/no, or sometimes " right " , or she gets upset and starts over. There are times when it is obvious the anxiety about separation might be the trigger, but other times it really seems like a control thing, where not getting an answer wouldn't be upsetting, such as " Isn't the expression on our puppy's face cute? " and she will ask that over repeatedly if she doesn't feel my response was satisfactory for any reason. I purchased a few books, they all mention CBT and exposre/RP, and I don't think our psychiatrist is doing it the way the books describe. He's making us as parents responsible by having us pick which scenario is too stressful/annoying for us to answer the questions. He has said he doesn't believe in the exposure approach but is using it because it seems to be working a bit with her. I will investigate a new therapist for her. I have the book, What to do When Your Brain Gets Stuck " My daughter flat out refuses to read it. And why would she want to anyway?? OCD isn't a problem for her because the whole family meets her needs by answering her endless questions. So the doctor plays games (Guess Who...) at each appointment, doesn't require her to address her OCD, and she won't talk about it with us so I feel a bit lost in what direction to take next. I've thought about quitting my part in her rituals, and then maybe she will feel uncomfortable enough to want to address this on her own. She has to want to do it herself. I know many of you have it much worse so I won't complain other than to say it does get very frustrating for us in the moment. And of course we worry about her and if this will increase in the future. Any input would be appreciated. I just need to understand this a bit better. Thanks, Trudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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