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My 12 yr old son used loop tapes last year to help him with some of his

obsessive thoughts and worries. It amazed me how well they worked. First he

created a hierarchy with the help of his therapist, based on the level of

anxiety each thought caused. Dr. S started with one with a level of 3 or 4 and

worked her way up to the most anxiety-causing thought. During their sessions,

my son would explain to her in detail, everything about a particular thought,

including any sounds, smells, sights that may create the anxiety (hearing

sirens, smelling smoke, etc). She would then record her voice reading a " story "

meant to recreate the anxiety that my son was feeling. He was instructed to

listen to it for at least 20 minutes a day, noting his anxiety level at the

start, and stopping when the level came down to a 1 or 2.

His biggest fear that he had for years was about something very bad happening to

me, usually from a car accident. His second biggest fear was about something

happening to my husband. At one point, he thought he was ready to work on the

fear involving his dad. However, when he started to listen to the tape, his

anxiety was a 10+, and he was crying hysterically. I told him not to continue,

because it was obvious that this was just too much for him. After several weeks

and a few other exposures in between, he went back to that dad exposure, and got

through it very quickly.

At some point, the tapes didn't seem to be working anymore, even though they

were extremely descriptive and graphic. Dr. S changed things up a bit, and

instead of recording her own voice, she typed up the story and had my son record

his own voice. This did the trick, and the exposures were effective again.

We worked on this all last summer, and by the time school started, he was fine.

Fine. He's always responded very well to therapy and is always very motivated

do the work and make the thoughts go away. His OCD has always been mostly bad

thoughts. He went through a very short phase when he was about 8 or 9 when he

had to touch something with one hand if he touched it with the other. He worked

on this one on his own and got past it quickly.

I feel like I'm always on the lookout for OCD trying to work it's way back into

his mind. I remind him frequently that he needs to tell me right away if he

feels like it's coming back, because the earlier he catches it and works on it,

the quicker it will go away.

Wow, this got really long! I've always considered my son to be a true success

story. We know that he'll always have to deal with OCD. I just thank God

everyday that he's not suffering right now. His first year of middle school has

been his best year yet. He made so many new friends, and went from a class of

65 to over 450 and loves it! I thought this would surely put him over the edge,

but once again, OCD makes no sense.

Hope this can help somebody, and perhaps give some of you hope that it can get

better.

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, thanks for sharing about loop tapes, I know others have said they help

too. I've always wondered for those that tape their own how they manage to read

them for the taping, think that would be a huge anxiety. Nice that the

therapist taped them at first for him to listen to.

Glad he's doing so well and in a larger school at that, and also in MIDDLE

school, which is often the roughest years as a teen.

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> My 12 yr old son used loop tapes last year to help him with some of his

obsessive thoughts and worries. It amazed me how well they worked. First he

created a hierarchy with the help of his therapist, based on the level of

anxiety each thought caused. Dr. S started with one with a level of 3 or 4 and

worked her way up to the most anxiety-causing thought. During their sessions,

my son would explain to her in detail, everything about a particular thought,

including any sounds, smells, sights that may create the anxiety (hearing

sirens, smelling smoke, etc). She would then record her voice reading a " story "

meant to recreate the anxiety that my son was

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Hello,

We also used tapes as part of my son's ERP and found it a powerful way to do

ERP. I didn't use tapes when we first started, mainly because I was ignorant of

the technique and had found other ways to do ERP. When we did decide to use

tapes we started out simple - just 1-2 minutes and then increased both the time

and intensity of content as we went along. I always encouraged my son to write

the scenarios for the tapes but when he didn't put in enough detail to make it

really work I would often add more. But, it was always his voice on the tapes,

and I would always sit close by to make sure he was actually listening to the

tapes and not trying to distract himself.

Best,

Joni

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> , thanks for sharing about loop tapes, I know others have said they help

too. I've always wondered for those that tape their own how they manage to read

them for the taping, think that would be a huge anxiety. Nice that the

therapist taped them at first for him to listen to.

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> Glad he's doing so well and in a larger school at that, and also in MIDDLE

school, which is often the roughest years as a teen.

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Could you explain more about the OCD symptoms that you worked on with the tapes

and how often you used a tape and the degree of success it led to. Thanks!

Re: ERP posts

Hello,

We also used tapes as part of my son's ERP and found it a powerful way to do

ERP. I didn't use tapes when we first started, mainly because I was ignorant of

the technique and had found other ways to do ERP. When we did decide to use

tapes we started out simple - just 1-2 minutes and then increased both the time

and intensity of content as we went along. I always encouraged my son to write

the scenarios for the tapes but when he didn't put in enough detail to make it

really work I would often add more. But, it was always his voice on the tapes,

and I would always sit close by to make sure he was actually listening to the

tapes and not trying to distract himself.

Best,

Joni

>

> , thanks for sharing about loop tapes, I know others have said they help

too. I've always wondered for those that tape their own how they manage to read

them for the taping, think that would be a huge anxiety. Nice that the

therapist taped them at first for him to listen to.

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> Glad he's doing so well and in a larger school at that, and also in MIDDLE

school, which is often the roughest years as a teen.

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Could you explain more about the OCD symptoms that you worked on with the tapes

and how often you used a tape and the degree of success it led to. Thanks!

Re: ERP posts

Hello,

We also used tapes as part of my son's ERP and found it a powerful way to do

ERP. I didn't use tapes when we first started, mainly because I was ignorant of

the technique and had found other ways to do ERP. When we did decide to use

tapes we started out simple - just 1-2 minutes and then increased both the time

and intensity of content as we went along. I always encouraged my son to write

the scenarios for the tapes but when he didn't put in enough detail to make it

really work I would often add more. But, it was always his voice on the tapes,

and I would always sit close by to make sure he was actually listening to the

tapes and not trying to distract himself.

Best,

Joni

>

> , thanks for sharing about loop tapes, I know others have said they help

too. I've always wondered for those that tape their own how they manage to read

them for the taping, think that would be a huge anxiety. Nice that the

therapist taped them at first for him to listen to.

>

> Glad he's doing so well and in a larger school at that, and also in MIDDLE

school, which is often the roughest years as a teen.

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Hello,

My son's (he is now 18) OCD centered maninly on sexual obsessions - that is, any

sexual trigger, both internal and external, would set off his obsessions. So,

the tapes we put together addressed issues of sexuality that I thought would

have the most impact. We ended up doing several tapes and started off with

simple scenarios. We then worked up to more detailed and complicated ones - but

with each one, my son recorded himself.

When we first started with the tapes, my son would be very anxious even though

we had done ERP many times before. Somehow this techique reached his OCD in

ways that the other exposures had previously hadn't. But, even though he would

start out very anxious and would need time to steady himself, we found that he

quickly would get used to the tapes; that is, they worked and he was no longer

anxious about doing them. As for his symptoms, the tapes seemed to lessen his

general obsessions.

It's hard for me to say just how well ths technique worked for my son's overall

treatment because I didn't think about working with it until after we had done

other types of expsoures and after he had already had a siginifcant improvement

in his OCD. But, I think that it helped us some and reached his OCD in a more

general way. Somehow, by having him isualize his worst OCD fears in a very

personal way, it helped him deal with his obsessions.

If this doesn't make sense to any one, just keep asking me and I will try to

answer as best as I can.

Best,

Joni

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> Could you explain more about the OCD symptoms that you worked on with the

tapes and how often you used a tape and the degree of success it led to.

Thanks!

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