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In time as she grows you will learn the little routines and obsessiveness she

has. My daughter is almost 14 and has somethings which must be done, or all heck

breaks lose, sometimes now i stand up to her, sometimes succeeding, sometimes

not. We are having an issue with her hair at present, she wanted to grow it, so

we let her, now she has it in her mind that she can only tie it back for school,

so all the other times, it is flopping over her face everywhere, and its the

greatest brusher, i keep threatening her that we will get it cut short if she

cannot care for it.....hoping eventually in time she will realise what we mean,

and why we want it for her.....wish i had never tried the long hair thing at

all.....

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: khp4270@...: Tue, 8 Jul 2008

19:04:59 +0000Subject: help with obsessive behavior

Hi,I am new to the group. I need advice/help. My three year old daughter has

been having raging obessive behavior the last couple of days. She did eat some

wheat and dairy and peanuts a couple days ago. I hope thats what caused it. So I

put her on a cf/gf diet again, but I am not sure if it's bad for her to indulge

in her obessions??She wants to sit in her car seat, or on this chair I have. She

doesn't really want to do much else except maybe eat and watch Elmo.She also is

not sleeping much, which I'm sure is not helping.How have other parents handled

this??

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In time as she grows you will learn the little routines and obsessiveness she

has. My daughter is almost 14 and has somethings which must be done, or all heck

breaks lose, sometimes now i stand up to her, sometimes succeeding, sometimes

not. We are having an issue with her hair at present, she wanted to grow it, so

we let her, now she has it in her mind that she can only tie it back for school,

so all the other times, it is flopping over her face everywhere, and its the

greatest brusher, i keep threatening her that we will get it cut short if she

cannot care for it.....hoping eventually in time she will realise what we mean,

and why we want it for her.....wish i had never tried the long hair thing at

all.....

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: khp4270@...: Tue, 8 Jul 2008

19:04:59 +0000Subject: help with obsessive behavior

Hi,I am new to the group. I need advice/help. My three year old daughter has

been having raging obessive behavior the last couple of days. She did eat some

wheat and dairy and peanuts a couple days ago. I hope thats what caused it. So I

put her on a cf/gf diet again, but I am not sure if it's bad for her to indulge

in her obessions??She wants to sit in her car seat, or on this chair I have. She

doesn't really want to do much else except maybe eat and watch Elmo.She also is

not sleeping much, which I'm sure is not helping.How have other parents handled

this??

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In time as she grows you will learn the little routines and obsessiveness she

has. My daughter is almost 14 and has somethings which must be done, or all heck

breaks lose, sometimes now i stand up to her, sometimes succeeding, sometimes

not. We are having an issue with her hair at present, she wanted to grow it, so

we let her, now she has it in her mind that she can only tie it back for school,

so all the other times, it is flopping over her face everywhere, and its the

greatest brusher, i keep threatening her that we will get it cut short if she

cannot care for it.....hoping eventually in time she will realise what we mean,

and why we want it for her.....wish i had never tried the long hair thing at

all.....

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: khp4270@...: Tue, 8 Jul 2008

19:04:59 +0000Subject: help with obsessive behavior

Hi,I am new to the group. I need advice/help. My three year old daughter has

been having raging obessive behavior the last couple of days. She did eat some

wheat and dairy and peanuts a couple days ago. I hope thats what caused it. So I

put her on a cf/gf diet again, but I am not sure if it's bad for her to indulge

in her obessions??She wants to sit in her car seat, or on this chair I have. She

doesn't really want to do much else except maybe eat and watch Elmo.She also is

not sleeping much, which I'm sure is not helping.How have other parents handled

this??

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Chez , it maked me remember much of when was of little had of long hair

too and hated to have of it touched or combed and not wanted of the

mother to do it at all because she never really brushed of combed she

was painfull in the care of it , and it was as if she ripped it out of

the head of me. I to remember screaming if see of her at all with a

comb or brush. I to just stood and jumped and screamed I to just

remembered of this as it was triggered open by you words.

Sondra

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Chez , it maked me remember much of when was of little had of long hair

too and hated to have of it touched or combed and not wanted of the

mother to do it at all because she never really brushed of combed she

was painfull in the care of it , and it was as if she ripped it out of

the head of me. I to remember screaming if see of her at all with a

comb or brush. I to just stood and jumped and screamed I to just

remembered of this as it was triggered open by you words.

Sondra

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Chez , it maked me remember much of when was of little had of long hair

too and hated to have of it touched or combed and not wanted of the

mother to do it at all because she never really brushed of combed she

was painfull in the care of it , and it was as if she ripped it out of

the head of me. I to remember screaming if see of her at all with a

comb or brush. I to just stood and jumped and screamed I to just

remembered of this as it was triggered open by you words.

Sondra

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I to forgot to ask if you daughter has of tke skills to be of to brush

her own hair or fix it for her self. or does she still need of you to

care for it in complete? as for me did not have of the ability to motor

plan of brushing my own hair well until was late teen years but could

do simple brusing but not well before then. could not do hair into pony

tails or pigtails for self until was much older like around age of 18-

20.

sondra

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I to forgot to ask if you daughter has of tke skills to be of to brush

her own hair or fix it for her self. or does she still need of you to

care for it in complete? as for me did not have of the ability to motor

plan of brushing my own hair well until was late teen years but could

do simple brusing but not well before then. could not do hair into pony

tails or pigtails for self until was much older like around age of 18-

20.

sondra

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I to forgot to ask if you daughter has of tke skills to be of to brush

her own hair or fix it for her self. or does she still need of you to

care for it in complete? as for me did not have of the ability to motor

plan of brushing my own hair well until was late teen years but could

do simple brusing but not well before then. could not do hair into pony

tails or pigtails for self until was much older like around age of 18-

20.

sondra

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It is of the coordination of motor planning and for me cant seem to

brush of my hair and coordinate of my hands because for me cant see

of my head and so cant understsand how to coodinate what i to not be

of able to see. if I to look into a mirror it causes me to do the

opposite so instead of to comb back wards will come hair forward so

that is of not a good source of help but I to use of hte mirror to

check to see if I to did a good job to my hair.

the brushing of the dolls hair might be of a good learning things but

it will be transfering it. because for me I to need to FEEL how it

Feels when I to be of doing a task and so if cant feel the task it

does not in time get processed and learned within me. Oddly even to

this day my right hand has to be on my head and holding my head as a

way to get a stronger sense of feeling my head as I to brush with my

right hand and do of my hair and when I to do of the left side of me,

the left hand hoovers over the left side of my head.

it is of odd and yet this is of how I to process of things. but it

works for me and this is of the only way I to be of able to brush of

my hair.

For me personally though would not feel as if for me brushing of the

dolls hair will teach of me but it did teach of me how to do my

childrens hair because that was of a very different concept as I to

be of able to see of their heads and so could see of my hands and

manipulate of the hair and things for them, but to do it to my own

head and could not see of it , it took of me much long time to learn

of it from the feeling of how it felt to be to do this and with much

practice it took of me years to finally be of able to do simple pony

tails and things but not much good outside of that in my own hair.

sondra

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It is of the coordination of motor planning and for me cant seem to

brush of my hair and coordinate of my hands because for me cant see

of my head and so cant understsand how to coodinate what i to not be

of able to see. if I to look into a mirror it causes me to do the

opposite so instead of to comb back wards will come hair forward so

that is of not a good source of help but I to use of hte mirror to

check to see if I to did a good job to my hair.

the brushing of the dolls hair might be of a good learning things but

it will be transfering it. because for me I to need to FEEL how it

Feels when I to be of doing a task and so if cant feel the task it

does not in time get processed and learned within me. Oddly even to

this day my right hand has to be on my head and holding my head as a

way to get a stronger sense of feeling my head as I to brush with my

right hand and do of my hair and when I to do of the left side of me,

the left hand hoovers over the left side of my head.

it is of odd and yet this is of how I to process of things. but it

works for me and this is of the only way I to be of able to brush of

my hair.

For me personally though would not feel as if for me brushing of the

dolls hair will teach of me but it did teach of me how to do my

childrens hair because that was of a very different concept as I to

be of able to see of their heads and so could see of my hands and

manipulate of the hair and things for them, but to do it to my own

head and could not see of it , it took of me much long time to learn

of it from the feeling of how it felt to be to do this and with much

practice it took of me years to finally be of able to do simple pony

tails and things but not much good outside of that in my own hair.

sondra

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I to think too if had been of given a sensory input that was of

enjoyable and took of my attention away to where I to be of more hyper

focused to the sensory input than the overload of hyper focus to my

hair being of brushed might have worked but since none was ever given

to me it caused my brain to hyper respond to the sensations of my hair

being riped off my head LOL/

sondra

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I to think too if had been of given a sensory input that was of

enjoyable and took of my attention away to where I to be of more hyper

focused to the sensory input than the overload of hyper focus to my

hair being of brushed might have worked but since none was ever given

to me it caused my brain to hyper respond to the sensations of my hair

being riped off my head LOL/

sondra

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The sleeping part I may be able to help with. They now make weighted blankets

that children who are over stimulated are benifited by. They tend to fall asleep

quickly and stay asleep longer with them.

 

My mom did not have this option when I was a child. She did used to wrap me up

tightly or tuck my sheet and or blanket in around the edges of the bed tight.

This would at least help with getting me to go to sleep.

 

The feeling of weight and tightness allowed for my brain to focus on the

physical stimulation of these aspects more that the other things that were over

stimulating me.

 

I have also heard that low doses of melatonin helps children that do not sleep

much.

 

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Subject: help with obsessive behavior

To: Autism_in_Girls

Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 12:04 PM

Hi,

I am new to the group. I need advice/help. My three year old daughter

has been having raging obessive behavior the last couple of days. She

did eat some wheat and dairy and peanuts a couple days ago. I hope

thats what caused it. So I put her on a cf/gf diet again, but I am not

sure if it's bad for her to indulge in her obessions??

She wants to sit in her car seat, or on this chair I have. She doesn't

really want to do much else except maybe eat and watch Elmo.

She also is not sleeping much, which I'm sure is not helping.

How have other parents handled this??

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jessica, I to just be of started to use of meletonin and feel it is of

showing maybe promise to me of to sleep. but for me I to like of much

weight too and like of to sleep with pillow between my knees or legs

and sleep with stuffed animals and certain soft blankets. I to ahve a

strong sleep ritual and routines to be of to get my body to that just

right state before can go to sleep before the meletonin. I to need to

feel grounded and weighted down this is of why I to relates so much to

the martian child video of hims needs to strap batteries to hims belt

for the need to not feel floaty. I to feel much day dreamy and or

floaty in life and so this causes for me to also feel over stimulated

and over responsive/reactive to much things. I to be of hyper sensitive

to many things and cant seem to really find a calm in life because of

that overwhelming feeling to me.

some of the things I to know to be fo true to me is cant have

stimulating inputs within the hour or two of bed time such as cant

eat , or have stimulating movie or noise or movements and things of

this. But I to need of my TV to be fo just right in voice tones and

volume and color mostly prefer of black and white films to sleep with.

Important to me to have the right temperature too I to need of the room

to be of much cool but with blankets, cant be of too hot or too cold or

will not be of able to sleep.

Epsom salt baths are of a good option too for me if getting too stuck

into my OCD like behaviors or not finding calm within me. I to also

need to watch of diet and limit for me certain dairies, and I to need

to not eat foods with red dyes. I to need to eat a snack of good

protein or fiber and drink of much bottle waters for me a day.

I to also be on a drug called plaquenil being used for suspect of Lupus

even though the blood work is not showing of that , but the doctor put

of me on it and it has been to show of me good benefit and so when I to

had to suddenly not be of able to fill the prescription recently it

caused me to go into a much strong flare of all my symptoms and now

understand of why had been of so much not right this last few weeks,

and then the husband picked up the prescription for me two days ago and

already seeing some improvements again. I to also be on neurontin at

400 mg 3x a day and they are of slowling increasing of that over time.

but sometimes for no reason understood by me it appears my body is

responding asd though it hasd taken too much medicines and not

understand of that but then it goes away and the body is okay again.

but anyways sometimes if pain is of present or getting sick the first

things that go is of my sleep and language ability and I to find of

self with more agitations and behaviors of meltdowns and such as if

cant cope anythings in life then after a few days of that I to find of

self running fevers and or showing measurable signs of sick. So for

some of us when we cycle out of sync so to speak it can be a sign we

are of not well and cant tell of you or know how to process the not

well feelings in us yet.

so these are of some of the thins to think on too.

sondra

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marita thanks to share of the success of you child in her hair cut

things. it makes me feel more encouraged to continue to connect at the

level I to do here because if i to feel somethings I to sahre reaches a

family and makes a difference it makes me feel that that one child had

a good experience that maked her feel successful too.

I to also wonder of you name as it appears very cultural and isof

beautiful and so wonder of its origin?

sondra

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marita thanks to share of the success of you child in her hair cut

things. it makes me feel more encouraged to continue to connect at the

level I to do here because if i to feel somethings I to sahre reaches a

family and makes a difference it makes me feel that that one child had

a good experience that maked her feel successful too.

I to also wonder of you name as it appears very cultural and isof

beautiful and so wonder of its origin?

sondra

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Hi Marita,

We had such an issue with hairbrushing it was part of our ABA therapy

routine and yes we used tokens and rewards. First we'd read a social

story about brushing hair and everyone needs to brush their hair and

when we're done brushing our hair we get a gummy bear vitamin.

Then we would brush her hair and then she would mark it off on our

morning routine chart with a piece of velcro to show it's been done

then she'd get her vitamin.

Nowadays she doesn't need the chart or social story anymore but she

holds the detangler bottle and the hairtie or barrette in each hand

so she can't interupt the brushing and I go really slow so not to

hurt her. And she still gets the vitamin :)

-Dana

Priscilla's mom

PS: Cutting it really does help too- we cut her hair in a bob last

winter and she got used to it not hurting when being brushed b/c it

didn't get tangled or knotted and so over time when it was easier to

brush her shorter hair she just grew used to it as part of the daily

routine...

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> To: Autism_in_Girls

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> combing her hair while she brushes her teeth. She loves to brush

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