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I was recently told by our pediatrician that all

pediatric flu shots no longer have thimersol, and

needed to give my asthmatic son a flu shot as a

prevention for pneumonia. I requested the package

insert, and it did not have thimersol listed as an

ingredient. My ped said they have no vaccines in

their inventory with thimersol.

Keep in mind that any vaccines for viruses are only

good for the viral strains that are in that vaccine.

It is possible to catch another strain of any virus,

as viruses continually evolve and mutate (that is how

they survive in our environment). Weigh the benefits

of the vaccine, and give them individually. We

stagger and give one every six months.

If in doubt, always ask for the package insert. It

would also be a good idea to keep a copy of the

vaccine record with the manufacturer and lot number of

the vaccine and the date your child received it to

help trace any side effects from the vaccine. Hope

this helps.

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> You are absolutely correct, they still contain

> thimerosal, some

> doctors still have batches that contain mercury, and

> even the new

> vaccines still have mercury in them. Under a

> certain weight the FDA

> does not require thimerosal to be listed as an

> ingredient, but it is

> still there. Flu shots recommended for children

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> preserved with thimerosal, so do the meningitis

> shots.

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First, thimerosal is used in the manufacture of vaccines, including

live virus vaccines, but is " removed " in the process. Trace amounts

may remain in the final product. Nobody knows what level of injected

mercury, if any, is safe. Dr. Boyd Haley has tested MMR, for

instance, and found trace levels. It is plausible that the amount

varies by lot.

Second, the removal of thimerosal from other vaccines (not live

virus) was not mandatory and therefore gradual. Nobody knows how

long shots containing thimerosal remained in inventory. In fact, my

doctor says she has talked to patients whose children were recently

vaccinated with lots still containing thimerosal.

Third, there is some debate on whether the package inserts are the

final word -- manufactures may have the ability to label it as an

ingredient on the box and not the insert, and vice versa.

Last, about 75 percent of the flu vaccine contains thimerosal, as

much as 25 mcg, which by EPA standards you would have to weigh 550

pounds for this to be a safe limit. This limit was also set using

ingested methylmercury as a de facto substitute for injected

ethylmercury, which Burbacher, et. al have shown is not accurate.

Previously assumed to be less toxic than ingested methylmercury (ie.

from fish consumption), his primate study, funded by the National

Institutes of Health, showed that while ethylmercury cleared the

blood faster, it also deposited more than twice as much inorganic

mercury in the brain, where it remains indefinitely. Also seen in

the primate study was microglial activation (brain inflammation) in

the ethylmercury-injected primates, which has been documented in the

brains of autistic humans by Vargas, et al.

I agree that it is wise to stagger vaccines, give them individually

(including separating the MMR) if you choose to give them at all, but

warn that even many pediatricians are not aware of the ingredients of

the vaccines they administer.

For separate MMR vaccines, google Hopewell Pharmacy and Wellness

Pharmacy. I know they previously offered these as separate

components.

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, you are always so well-informed. thanks for keeping me up-to-date,

Re: Vaccines

First, thimerosal is used in the manufacture of vaccines, including

live virus vaccines, but is " removed " in the process. Trace amounts

may remain in the final product. Nobody knows what level of injected

mercury, if any, is safe. Dr. Boyd Haley has tested MMR, for

instance, and found trace levels. It is plausible that the amount

varies by lot.

Second, the removal of thimerosal from other vaccines (not live

virus) was not mandatory and therefore gradual. Nobody knows how

long shots containing thimerosal remained in inventory. In fact, my

doctor says she has talked to patients whose children were recently

vaccinated with lots still containing thimerosal.

Third, there is some debate on whether the package inserts are the

final word -- manufactures may have the ability to label it as an

ingredient on the box and not the insert, and vice versa.

Last, about 75 percent of the flu vaccine contains thimerosal, as

much as 25 mcg, which by EPA standards you would have to weigh 550

pounds for this to be a safe limit. This limit was also set using

ingested methylmercury as a de facto substitute for injected

ethylmercury, which Burbacher, et. al have shown is not accurate.

Previously assumed to be less toxic than ingested methylmercury (ie.

from fish consumption), his primate study, funded by the National

Institutes of Health, showed that while ethylmercury cleared the

blood faster, it also deposited more than twice as much inorganic

mercury in the brain, where it remains indefinitely. Also seen in

the primate study was microglial activation (brain inflammation) in

the ethylmercury-injected primates, which has been documented in the

brains of autistic humans by Vargas, et al.

I agree that it is wise to stagger vaccines, give them individually

(including separating the MMR) if you choose to give them at all, but

warn that even many pediatricians are not aware of the ingredients of

the vaccines they administer.

For separate MMR vaccines, google Hopewell Pharmacy and Wellness

Pharmacy. I know they previously offered these as separate

components.

Regards,

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> > > > there is no connection with mercury and

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> > our children?

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Actually in 2004, FDA agreed that it was safe for vaccine manufacturers to

put thimerosal back in. This has to do with logistics surrounding the OSC.

Most people are not aware of this. Due to the public outrage, most

manufacturers are at least offering thimerosol-free vaccines as an option to

request when ordering this “product”. If you take CME courses (continuing

medical education courses) then you will learn this kind of stuff. Dr.

Sherri Tenpenny, D.O. offers these courses as well as a few others (not

many though) but they are AMA certified courses. Very obvious

double-standards flying around in the American medical system today. You

cannot argue with the truth, therefore it still stands and CME courses about

TRUTH ON VACCINES still remains today, unfortunately the typical

participants in these courses are the rare, and few credible physicians and

very educated, concerned and proactive parents and child advocates.

http://www.nmaseminars.com/

http://autismhelpforyou.com/LETTER%20TO%20NM%20BOARD%20OF%20PHARMACY%20MEMBE

RS.doc

you guys might be interested in reading this letter and the links provided

in it. A letter to the New Mexico Board Of Pharmacy written by

KP Stoller, MD

Assistant Clinical Professor, Pediatrics UNM, School of Medicine

Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico

Re: Vaccines

First, thimerosal is used in the manufacture of vaccines, including

live virus vaccines, but is " removed " in the process. Trace amounts

may remain in the final product. Nobody knows what level of injected

mercury, if any, is safe. Dr. Boyd Haley has tested MMR, for

instance, and found trace levels. It is plausible that the amount

varies by lot.

Second, the removal of thimerosal from other vaccines (not live

virus) was not mandatory and therefore gradual. Nobody knows how

long shots containing thimerosal remained in inventory. In fact, my

doctor says she has talked to patients whose children were recently

vaccinated with lots still containing thimerosal.

Third, there is some debate on whether the package inserts are the

final word -- manufactures may have the ability to label it as an

ingredient on the box and not the insert, and vice versa.

Last, about 75 percent of the flu vaccine contains thimerosal, as

much as 25 mcg, which by EPA standards you would have to weigh 550

pounds for this to be a safe limit. This limit was also set using

ingested methylmercury as a de facto substitute for injected

ethylmercury, which Burbacher, et. al have shown is not accurate.

Previously assumed to be less toxic than ingested methylmercury (ie.

from fish consumption), his primate study, funded by the National

Institutes of Health, showed that while ethylmercury cleared the

blood faster, it also deposited more than twice as much inorganic

mercury in the brain, where it remains indefinitely. Also seen in

the primate study was microglial activation (brain inflammation) in

the ethylmercury-injected primates, which has been documented in the

brains of autistic humans by Vargas, et al.

I agree that it is wise to stagger vaccines, give them individually

(including separating the MMR) if you choose to give them at all, but

warn that even many pediatricians are not aware of the ingredients of

the vaccines they administer.

For separate MMR vaccines, google Hopewell Pharmacy and Wellness

Pharmacy. I know they previously offered these as separate

components.

Regards,

> > > > Someone else posted about the organization not

> >

> > > representing what a lot of us

> > > > parents

> > > > believe can cause autism. I went to Autism

> > speaks main website

> > and

> > > it

> > > > basically says

> > > > there is no connection with mercury and

> > autism.

> > > >

> > > > Is this an organization we want to represent

> > our children?

> > > >

> >

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today as many know we are of opting to vaccine but safely and much

spaced out so we are according to state things are of much behind on

my Delaney's vaccines. we wanted of only the MMR and nothing of else.

well when the clinic which was of very busy called of us she asked of

what we were of coming for and so I to stressed we wanted of the MMR

only and nothing else and also added I to know we are far behind on

the vaccines and she rushed her words back to me and sayed we will

take care of you. so we sat fro another hour or so and then she

called of me back up and then sayed these are what they will be of

given her. and he had over 8 vaccines papers and I to say oh no you

are of not given her all those and she shared yes she was and I to

say no you are of not I to specifically shared we wanted only the

MMR ( many who know of me know these words would be of true of me to

only opt one vaccine things but she insited I to did not say of this

to her and that she insisted I to asked for all of the ones she had

of in her hand. this maked of me angry as I to know of my words and

she was of making me like a lie person. She then to sayed to me what?

why would you only want to give of her one when she is of so far

behind. I to shared of the autism things and the one person beside of

her did calm of the worker person down and explained of the reasoning

I to ahd was of sound and should be of respected.

I to felt as if were in a battle field of professionals who are of so

ignorant to the reasons and were of saying so much untrues to me over

the vaccines things and the one giving the shot could tell of me

being much into researching of things and she stressed of it to me.

but she shared that the records showed that Delaney had of a HIB at

birth and 3 dTap and a prevnar. I to sayed what? she was never given

a HIb. she shared the record shows she was of given one at age of 2

days old. I to be so upset to hear of this because we refused of that

shot at the hosptial so it appears someone gave of it to her anyways

without our permissions to do so and can explaine the very difficult

time we had of with her for the first 8 or so months of the constant

screams , she was of a baby that could not self soothe and had of

much sensory issues and OCD like things in regards to her she had to

have things just right to go to sleep and would only nap for a few

minutes to repeat of the screaming again. I to be of so angry and so

my aimee asked of if she has a law suit on this? does any to know? we

do not want of to sue for lots of money but for the feeling of being

violated of our rights to our choices for her/

I to be of only vaccinating her for diseases that are of still out

there that can pose a real risk to her health if not given of the

vaccine such as whooping cough and or measles are of ones that pose a

risk for her and so only looking at those vaccines for her right now.

Nothing more.

I to felt such as strong overload and tears and now feel agitated by

the long day and fighting for my grand babies rights in Ohio to be of

exempt vaccines and things of this. they tried of to tell of me of

the school vaccine issues of her not being of allowed to go to school

if she does not get of her vaccines and to tell them in Ohio that is

of not true. and that we do have of several laws that allow us to

exempt of them legally. she just be to looked at me as if I to were

of deliberately trying to argue and cause issues and I to simply was

not , I to just wanted to seek clarity and truth.

Sondra

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