Re: Re: Fwd: Re: Whey Protein - Atten.

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>Hermesetas? Say it ain't so! I know they've come

out with >something

>new called Hermesetas Gold that includes inulin and

other nasty >crap,

>but I hope they're not discontinuing the plain

saccharin product!

>-

I'm rather new here, so I may be opening a can of

worms, but I was wondering if you could tell me (or

point me in the direction of) some information

regarding why inulin is bad.

Thanks,

" I must learn to love the fool in me - the one who feels too much,

talks too much, takes too many chances, wins sometimes and loses often,

lacks self-control, loves and hates, hurts and gets hurt, promises and

breaks promises, laughs and cries. It alone protects me against that

utterly self-controlled, masterful tyrant whom I also harbor and who would rob

me of human aliveness, humility and dignity but for my fool. " - Theodore Rubin

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Kim-

>I'm rather new here, so I may be opening a can of

>worms, but I was wondering if you could tell me (or

>point me in the direction of) some information

>regarding why inulin is bad.

It causes digestive problems. It's promoted as being somehow

magically able to only feed " good " gut bacteria without feeding any

bad ones, but leaving aside the serious questions over just how good

bifida species necessarily are, it's impossible for a food to

selectively feed species in such a way for two reasons. First,

bacteria and other microbes evolve extremely rapidly and also

exchange genetic information which passes new abilities around. And

second, as one species feeds on something like inulin, it breaks the

inulin down into smaller and more easily metabolized units which are

then more available to other species.

There's virtually no solid research on the effects of FOS and inulin

in the human body. There's a study on grain-fed cows (cows! and

grain-fed ones at that!) and there's a common assumption that farting

is a positive indicator of health, but that's about it, except for

data indicating that clostridium and klebsiella do really well on FOS

and inulin.

Also, I've seen abundant anecdotal evidence of people suffering

extremely from taking inulin, with bloody diarrhea and major and

intractable flares of bowel disease resulting.

I strongly recommend against consuming it.

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[Guest guest]

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>

>It causes digestive problems. It's promoted as being somehow

>magically able to only feed " good " gut bacteria without feeding any

>bad ones, but leaving aside the serious questions over just how good

>bifida species necessarily are, it's impossible for a food to

>selectively feed species in such a way for two reasons. First,

>bacteria and other microbes evolve extremely rapidly and also

>exchange genetic information which passes new abilities around. And

>second, as one species feeds on something like inulin, it breaks the

>inulin down into smaller and more easily metabolized units which are

>then more available to other species.

>

It's a crap shoot what pathogens you might feed with inulin/FOS (pun

intended).

http://www.natren.com/pages/healthyliving/beware.asp

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1. Chemically manufactured FOS*** is a synthetic product. Because it is

not naturally occurring, there may be effects that have not yet been

determined.

2. Inulin and FOS are inert in the mouth, stomach and small intestine

because they are non digestible carbohydrates (similarly, olestra is a

non digestible fat - adding no calories to the diet; inulin, FOS and

olestra cause undesirable side effects in the gastrointestinal tract).

3. Inulin and FOS alter the metabolic activity of the colon by

fermenting selected species of bacteria. Abnormal functions may occur.

4. Safety on the use of prebiotics could be an issue as they rapidly

ferment in the colon and stimulate selective species and strains of

bacteria. Intestinal problems such as altered bowel habits, flatulence,

bloating and abdominal pain may result.

5. Inulin and FOS could easily influence the growth of yeast,

/Klebsiella/, or possibly other pathogenic organisms. This may

counteract any help the probiotics may provide.

6. You must know if the prebiotic will nourish and stimulate the growth

of the particular bacteria present in the product. Why should the

manufacturer include FOS or inulin in their product if they cannot prove

that the bacteria included in their product will utilize it?

7. Bacteria are not simple organisms. They are very adept in using

sources of nourishment if it benefits their dominance amongst the other

resident microflora. Using direct substrates such as inulin or FOS

changes the normal balance of resident bacteria and may lead to

unhealthy distortions in the bacterial composition of the host microflora.

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Deanna

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lowcarb lover <lowcarb_lover@...> wrote:

>Hermesetas? Say it ain't so! I know they've come

out with >something

>new called Hermesetas Gold that includes inulin and

other nasty >crap,

>but I hope they're not discontinuing the plain

saccharin product!

>-

At this point I don't know how to find out, as I've emailed medichest about it

and called and have not received a reply.

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Jafa-

> At this point I don't know how to find out, as I've emailed

> medichest about it and called and have not received a reply.

Looks like the saccharin-only version hasn't been

discontinued. http://www.hermesetas.com/data/en/products/

Let me know how the Medichest order works out, as I'll be needing

more sooner or later myself.

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