Re: Hi new here and a quick question

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krin,

> Hi new to the group-looks like a heavy traffic one!

Welcome. Eh, if you don't care for off-topic posts you might filter

out those with " RELIGION " in the subject line...

>

> I have the book native nutrition and have made some things from it-i

> really like the whole concept -and also am a frequent

> visitor to the weston price page.

>

> Anyway, I can get access to raw milk but not all the time.

Where are you? Is the a local chapter leader nearby?

> Will it benefit me nutritionally at all to have some heavy cream

> (storebought) in my daily diet or should I go without any milk products

> if i do not have them in the raw form? oh and same question in regards

> to butter...

Re: heavy cream, just don't use " ultra-pasteurised " cream--or

milk--and, of course, get the highest quality you can locate. If you

culture the cream, you will add nutrition to it.

Re: butter, look for Kerrygold butter in the stores. It is

pasteurised, high-quality and affordable.

Re: what you " should " do in the case of pasteurised dairy in general,

it depends on your needs and tastes.

B.

[Guest guest]

,

Is Kerrygold butter at " Health " stores or can you find it at your local

grocery? Thanks!

Kayla

>

>

> Re: butter, look for Kerrygold butter in the stores. It is

> pasteurised, high-quality and affordable.

>

> Re: what you " should " do in the case of pasteurised dairy in general,

> it depends on your needs and tastes.

> B.

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>

>Anyway, I can get access to raw milk but not all the time.

>

>Will it benefit me nutritionally at all to have some heavy cream

>(storebought) in my daily diet or should I go without any milk products

>if i do not have them in the raw form? oh and same question in regards

>to butter.

Krin,

The butter should be OK, per Sally. If you can get Kerry Gold, all the

better. It's Irish butter from grassfed cows.

But I personally wouldn't use the pasteurized/homogenized cream. You can get

the same nutrients in it from other sources like organ meats, egg yolks,

etc.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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[Guest guest]

> -----Original Message-----

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Suze Fisher

>

> But I personally wouldn't use the pasteurized/homogenized

> cream. You can get the same nutrients in it from other

> sources like organ meats, egg yolks, etc.

Is cream homogenized? I've seen homogenized half-and-half, but never

homogenized cream.

[Guest guest]

> Is Kerrygold butter at " Health " stores or can you find it at your local

> grocery? Thanks!

Kayla,

Oh gee, it's available at Trader Joe's for $2.49/8 oz. Is there one

nearby? (800)SHOP-TJS *sorry for the spam*

It's at Whole Foods for a bit more.

Okay, to answer your actual question: no, I don't think it is sold at

Safeway/Krogers/Piggly-Wiggly. No harm in checking--or making a

request to your grocer, it's not like some arcane food.

B.

[Guest guest]

They sell it at reg grocery stores like the Publix in my area.

,

Is Kerrygold butter at " Health " stores or can you find it at your local

grocery? Thanks!

Kayla

[Guest guest]

>-----Original Message-----

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>[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Berg

>

>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From:

>> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Suze Fisher

>>

>> But I personally wouldn't use the pasteurized/homogenized

>> cream. You can get the same nutrients in it from other

>> sources like organ meats, egg yolks, etc.

>

>Is cream homogenized? I've seen homogenized half-and-half, but never

>homogenized cream.

It's been so long since I checked that I honestly don't remember. But I just

googled it and it does indeed exist. But perhaps it's not that common?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

I can get Kerrygold at the local Wegmans, but they keep it in the

specialty cheese section instead of the dairy section. I haven't

quite figured out why they do this since the the cheese section is

practically on the other side of the store from the dairy section.

-Lana

On 1/7/06, <rstump@...> wrote:

> They sell it at reg grocery stores like the Publix in my area.

>

>

>

> ,

> Is Kerrygold butter at " Health " stores or can you find it at your local

> grocery? Thanks!

> Kayla

[Guest guest]

>

> I can get Kerrygold at the local Wegmans, but they keep it in the

> specialty cheese section instead of the dairy section. I haven't

> quite figured out why they do this since the the cheese section is

> practically on the other side of the store from the dairy section.

Lana,

It's because the specialty foods/cheese department is ordering

it/keeping it in stock, not the dairy department. Apparently Wegman's

considers it a rather posh item.

B.

[Guest guest]

,

I don't think I would have ever guessed the departments ordered

seperately, but that does make sense.

*chuckles* I get a kick out of Kerrygold being a posh item. I don't

even think of the other stuff as butter anymore. How funny is that?

Thanks!

-Lana

> Lana,

> It's because the specialty foods/cheese department is ordering

> it/keeping it in stock, not the dairy department. Apparently Wegman's

> considers it a rather posh item.

> B.

[Guest guest]

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>Oh gee, it's available at Trader Joe's for $2.49/8 oz.

Jesus. The cheapest I can find it in Manhattan is twice that price. Ouch!

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[Guest guest]

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>Is cream homogenized? I've seen homogenized half-and-half, but never

>homogenized cream.

It's not because there's no need for it to be, as cream is the part

that would separate from unhomogenized milk.

That said, there are some " creams " out there which might as well be,

as they're ultrapasteurized and mixed with emulsifying agents and

other nasty ingredients. The labels don't state that they're

homogenized, so I assume they're not in the technical sense, but

they're horrendous nonetheless.

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[Guest guest]

Krin-

>Will it benefit me nutritionally at all to have some heavy cream

>(storebought) in my daily diet or should I go without any milk products

>if i do not have them in the raw form? oh and same question in regards

>to butter.

If the cream isn't at least grass-fed and ideally also organic, I'd

avoid it. If it's pasteurized but grass-fed and organic, it's not

the end of the world. Pasteurization causes problems with the

protein and sugar fractions of milk; heavy cream has very little of

either, so at the very least it's not nearly as bad as pasteurized

milk. Still, raw grass-fed organic from good soil is best, obviously.

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[Guest guest]

thanks paul the cream is homogenized not pasturized - it is also not organic or

grass fed..and it has other weird ingredients in it like mono and di

glycerides-i only bought a 1/2 pint so it is no big deal.

thanks everyone who answered! very helpful! i have kerrygold butter in the

fridge already when i went to use it i noticed how rich and yellow it looks

compared to other butters...

unfortunately i just bought 2 lbs of cabot butter just the other day tho -

that is still better to use than no butter at all isnt it? i would hate to

waste it

i hope to get out to purchase some raw milk today as well

thanks again!

krin

Idol <Idol@...> wrote:

Krin-

If the cream isn't at least grass-fed and ideally also organic, I'd

avoid it. If it's pasteurized but grass-fed and organic, it's not

the end of the world.

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[Guest guest]

Krin-

>thanks paul the cream is homogenized not pasturized - it is also not

>organic or grass fed..and it has other weird ingredients in it like

>mono and di glycerides-i only bought a 1/2 pint so it is no big deal.

Sadly then it's junk and you should avoid it.

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[Guest guest]

> Will it benefit me nutritionally at all to have some heavy cream

> (storebought) in my daily diet or should I go without any milk

products

> if i do not have them in the raw form? oh and same question in

regards

> to butter.

> thanks! looking forward to being a member.

> krin

~~~Krin,

Don't know what state you are in, but I have found a couple of brands

of (semi)local butter that don't use hormones and are *mainly* grassfed.

I'm in Oregon and Tillamook is widely available. The other one that I

like it a local dairy called Umpqua. These are available on the

grocery store shelves. They aren't organic, but I can't afford organic

butter. Storebought butter I use for cooking and for baking. I save

the raw cream for making into butter and for adding to smoothies - and

of course for the occasional whipped cream on desserts and raw ice

cream.

As for KerryGold, I think if you go on their website they have a store

locator. Good stuff, but expensive.

As for other cream in our diets - I buy our local Umpqua brand of old

fashioned heavy whipping cream, which is not ultra pastuerized, and

add to our raw milk for half'n half for our morning (organic, decaff)

coffee.

Rhonda