Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 In a message dated 9/1/2004 1:36:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time, irishfox@... writes: This morning I gave my dogs RAW chix necks, homemade yogurt from RAW goat milk, freshly pressed garlic, a whole RAW egg, and sprinkled Tumeric and Cayenne pepper on top. Anne, I give yogurt to my dogs, it helps keep the ear canals clean and ph balanced. When I don't give it consistently, the ears on a dog or two get bad again. Would the goat mile yogurt do the same thing? I can get homegrown goat milk near me, so thought if it would accomplish the same goal why not? Thanks, Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Lucky you. I don't vaccinate, she's never had antibiotics or steroids (or any other allopathic med), eats a raw diet with no grains, and STILL itches! But....she's a Golden, so we're just doing the best we can. Some products from a site called www.nzymes.com have helped the itching immensely. My hvet and I think it's inherited vaccinosis miasm, so we've treated her homeopathically for that (with little success, I might add; there's very little rubric to go on). The only things that have helped have been the enzymes/oxy-drops from Nzymes -- and not feeding chicken. Every time I feed her chicken she starts itching again....which is goo bad, because chicken is so easy to get and so inexpensive. Sharyn & Cedar the Golden nudge St. Cassie (at the Bridge, 1988-2000) From: Anne Bird [mailto:irishfox@...] I don't have yeast problems in my dogs as they have NEVER had any type of vaccinations, anti-biotics or fed anything but RAW meaty bones. They have never even tasted grain based commercial dog food which is responsible for so many health problems in dogs, including contributing to yeast. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.749 / Virus Database: 501 - Release Date: 9/1/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Sharyn Cerniglia wrote: > Lucky you. I don't vaccinate, she's never had antibiotics or steroids > (or any other allopathic med), eats a raw diet with no grains, and > STILL itches! But....she's a Golden, so we're just doing the best we > can. Some products from a site called www.nzymes.com > <http://www.nzymes.com> have helped the itching immensely. My hvet > and I think it's inherited vaccinosis miasm, so we've treated her > homeopathically for that (with little success, I might add; there's > very little rubric to go on). The only things that have helped have > been the enzymes/oxy-drops from Nzymes -- and not feeding chicken. > Every time I feed her chicken she starts itching again....which is goo > bad, because chicken is so easy to get and so inexpensive. > > Sharyn & Cedar the Golden nudge > St. Cassie (at the Bridge, 1988-2000) ======================================= Would this be organic chicken? Or just any chicken? Just curious considering the chemicals that are used on and in chickens. -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 It's generally chicken from the local organic market....usually Bell & brand. But she definitely itches even more if I use generic Acme brand chicken. Sharyn -----Original Message----- From: Don Quai [mailto:mysticalherbalist@...] Would this be organic chicken? Or just any chicken? Just curious considering the chemicals that are used on and in chickens. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.749 / Virus Database: 501 - Release Date: 9/1/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Sharyn Cerniglia wrote: > Nothing to forgive, Don....it hasn't been mentioned before since this > isn't really a dog list....I just mentioned it in passing. She pretty > much itches all over. She bites her front paws and knees, back paws > and ankles, scratches her armpits, and bites her groin area. This is > at her worst, mind you. She's doing pretty well at the moment, as > long as I keep her on the Nzymes (www.nzymes.com > <http://www.nzymes.com>) and don't feed her chicken or any grains. > Tonight's dinner was lamb neck.<G> > > Sharyn > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Even our four legged friends need to replenish their enzymes too. Glad it is helping her. Maybe her problem is just lack of enzymes. What about sulphur? I am not up on animal health but I do know that sulphur plays a major roles in the skin, etc. Have you given her any sulphur supplements like MSM? How does she do on sprouted grains? -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Ok... are you sure this is not just some nervous condition?Sharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote: No, not at all. And neither is her coat; it's wonderfully glossy and thick. I've had a complete CBC done twice and her numbers are all just fine. Tis a puzzle.... Sharyn, scratching head for 3.5 years now From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...] her skin is not dry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/2004 3:19:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time, sharyn.cerniglia@... writes: I'm not quite sure how I'd get them into her. Got any suggestions? with a spoonful of natural plain yogurt. Do you give her yogurt daily? Are you sure it isn't an environmental allergy? Mold? Grass? Dirt? etc.? Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/2004 5:11:32 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats@... writes: If she doesn't itch while asleep (when she is calm) this really makes me believe it's a nervous condition rather than an allergy condition.. Me too, which would suggest looking at the pheromone unit Comfort Zone. Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/2004 5:19:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time, sharyn.cerniglia@... writes: I can't see feeding her juice.<G> You might try! My middle child (dog) LOVES juice and fruit! She steals any fruit she can get away with!!! Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 No. I've tried Bach flower essences, but not herbs. I'm not quite sure how I'd get them into her. Got any suggestions? Sharyn From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...] Have you tried any relaxing herbs on her???? Sharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote: No. But I don't know anything more to do with that than what I'm already doing. (I've tried flower essences also, along with homeopathy.) She was itching in the car the day we brought her home at 7wo. Has been itching ever since. And believe me -- no one in her litter lives better than she does!<BG> But she is a pretty high-strung dog, especially for a Golden. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 9/3/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Tea form... squirted into mouth... do it to mine... check this site out http://www.brookbyherbs.co.nz/dhealthbp.htm lists the herbs also. you can make your own. and this one has a tranquility blend http://www.naturalpetmarket.com/category_detail.cfm?categoryid=166 & varpageid=999 & uplevel=Health & level=Anxiety otherwise maybe the dog should do a cleanse..............? Nervousness can also cause you to itch.... or being hyper Suzi Sharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote: No. I've tried Bach flower essences, but not herbs. I'm not quite sure how I'd get them into her. Got any suggestions? Sharyn From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...] Have you tried any relaxing herbs on her???? Sharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote: No. But I don't know anything more to do with that than what I'm already doing. (I've tried flower essences also, along with homeopathy.) She was itching in the car the day we brought her home at 7wo. Has been itching ever since. And believe me -- no one in her litter lives better than she does!<BG> But she is a pretty high-strung dog, especially for a Golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 And then how do you get them to drink the water?? We have a whole house filter, so she's pretty spoiled about her water, won't drink anywhere outside the house, unless I bring the water with me. If I start sticking stuff in it, she won't drink it. I have used RR on occasion, by mouth. It's not something for long-term use, though. I don't know what Comfort Zone is?? I also don't know whether she itches when we leave....we're not there to see. She doesn't itch at night sleeping in bed (yes, she sleeps with us). Sharyn From: KLSIRDDOGS@... [mailto:KLSIRDDOGS@...] There are also doggie calmers that you can put directly into their water. They are made of natural herbs and so forth, good ingredients. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on mine if needed. I do use Rescue Remedy on occasion. Have you tried it? In mouth or on ear flap? Granted that it only lasts so long, and the water would be continual. What about Comfort Zone that you plug into the house? Does she itch when you leave? better? worse? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 9/3/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Sharyn, If she doesn't itch while asleep (when she is calm) this really makes me believe it's a nervous condition rather than an allergy condition.. SuziSharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote: And then how do you get them to drink the water?? We have a whole house filter, so she's pretty spoiled about her water, won't drink anywhere outside the house, unless I bring the water with me. If I start sticking stuff in it, she won't drink it. I have used RR on occasion, by mouth. It's not something for long-term use, though. I don't know what Comfort Zone is?? I also don't know whether she itches when we leave....we're not there to see. She doesn't itch at night sleeping in bed (yes, she sleeps with us). Sharyn From: KLSIRDDOGS@... [mailto:KLSIRDDOGS@...] There are also doggie calmers that you can put directly into their water. They are made of natural herbs and so forth, good ingredients. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on mine if needed. I do use Rescue Remedy on occasion. Have you tried it? In mouth or on ear flap? Granted that it only lasts so long, and the water would be continual. What about Comfort Zone that you plug into the house? Does she itch when you leave? better? worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/2004 10:04:29 PM Mountain Daylight Time, peetee1965@... writes: Next time she is bathed rinse her w/ acv and water and don't rinse off. that is a GREAT idea! Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Try some acv in her water if you haven't already. Some dogs crave that combination. Start slow and increas to tease her into it if need be. Pam -------- ///And then how do you get them to drink the water?? We have a whole house > filter, so she's pretty spoiled about her water, won't drink anywhere > outside the house, unless I bring the water with me. If I start sticking > stuff in it, she won't drink it. > Sharyn/// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 We were just talking about that also....all night long she sleeps in bed with us and doesn't move. As soon as she jumps down in the morning she starts to itch. A whole new direction for me to explore! Thank you! And her annual hvet visit is coming up this week, so maybe it'll give us a new rubric to use in trying to repertize this thing. Sharyn From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...] If she doesn't itch while asleep (when she is calm) this really makes me believe it's a nervous condition rather than an allergy condition.. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 9/3/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Oh, fasting. Yes, she fasts on occasion, when she chooses to. She's not real attached to food and isn't very unhappy if I neglect to feed her dinner one night. Some people espouse forced fasting (one day a week or more), but I don't. I pretty much figure most animals, left to their own devices, know their bodies better than we do, and will fast themselves if they feel the need. My big mentor is tte de Bairacli Levy, who wrote NATURE'S CHILDREN way back in the early 70's (raised my now 24yo son by it) and more recently THE COMPLETE HERBAL HANDBOOK FOR THE DOG AND CAT. It's my bible for holistic health -- for me and the dog! Sharyn From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...] I was reading the other day.... http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/fasting.htm there are other links out there but I found this interesting... and my livestock dogs do this ocassionally - fast.. they have a day now and then where they just don't want dinner.. I have gotten to figure they know more about their system than I do.. lol... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 9/3/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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