Re: Digest Number 284

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I wondered if anyone on this list was on any other vaccination lists. I am

on 3 including this one and wondered if I should forward some of the articles

I am getting from the other lists to this one or not.

Tonya

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In a message dated 6/28/99 1:49:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

Vaccinationsonelist writes:

<< http://webpages.netlink.co.nz/~ias/dunbar.htm >>

I copied part of the text from this site in case someone doesn't have web

access.

Hepatitis B vaccine

We are trying to identify more patients with autoimmune disorders that might

be related to the hepatitis B vaccine in order to find a better way to

prevent, diagnose, and treat such reactions. Since it is clearly established

that this vaccine (or the virus infection istself) may cause MS like

symptoms, your information could be a great help for our ongoing research.

Thank you for your consideration.

Bonnie Dunbar

LETTER:

Dr. Bonnie S. Dunbar

January 3, 1997

Dr. Joyce C. Lashof, M.D.

Committee Chair

Presidential Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans Illness

1411 K St. N.W.

Suite 1000

Wash. D.C. 20005-3404

Dear Dr. Lashof:

Within the past two years, I have had two colleagues who have developed

severe and apparently permanent adverse reactions as a result of being forced

to take the Hepatitis B vaccine. Both of these individuals were extremely

healthy and very athletic before this vaccine and have had severe,

debilitating autoimmune side effects from this vaccine. I know the complete

history of one, Dr. Bohn Dunbar, who is my brother who had serious rashes,

joint pain, chronic fatigue and now other degenerative disorders including

lupus like syndrome and multiple sclerosis like symptoms. My other medical

student went partially blind following her first booster injection and

virtually completely blind in one eye following the second with

hospitalization for several weeks. Following two years of consulting with

specialists it has been concurred that Bohn's " syndomes " are due to adverse

reactions to the hepatitis B vaccine.

I have worked in autoimmunity and vaccine development for over twenty years

(the past 15 years at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston). I was honored

two years ago by the National Institutes of Health as the first Margaret

Pittman lecturer for my pioneering work in contraceptive vaccines. I am

therefore very sensitive to the balance of risk vs. benefits in vaccine

development. Because of my expertise in this area, it became apparent to me

that these two active, healthy individuals working in my laboratory at the

same time developed " autoimmune " syndromes at the same prolonged

immunological time frame following their booster injections to the hepatitis

B vaccine. After carrying out extensive literature research on this vaccine,

it is apparent that the serious adverse side effects may be much more

significant than generally known. Because it is not clear that adequate long

term follow-up information was collected in the clinical trial data, many of

these effects might not have been observed. Even the vaccine insert which

most physicians do not show or discuss with their patients are ominous.

As the result of extensive literature research as well as our advanced

knowledge in the mechanisms of autoimmune disease and hepatitis B infection,

I have put together an international team of experts to prepare a grant

proposal to establish the scientific basis for these adverse reactions. It is

clear that there are major histocompatability genetic linkages among patients

who are having the severe reactions (as opposed to those who do not respond

to this vaccine at all!). We are also trying to determine the long term

prognosis for patients having such adverse reactions. Because I have an

immunology and biochemistry laboratory we collected blood samples throughout

the period of these adverse reactions therefore we have a unique pool of

serum to begin to scientifically pinpoint the reasons for the adverse

reactions.

It is apparent that the hepatitis B virus (and vaccine developed from the

hepatitis B surface antigen) is very unique from many other viruses and

vaccines and new theories and experiments (i.e. molecular mimicry and

anti-idiotypic antibodies) have been developed which could explain reasons

for autoimmune reactions caused by this virus or the viral protein used in

the vaccine. (I feel the New York Time's article this week on molecular

mimicry and viruses causing autoimmune diseases is right on point!) The fact

that there are dozens of publications on the correlation of this virus as

well as the vaccine with autoimmune and other connective disease disorders

provides strong evidence for the correlation of this viral antigen causing

autoimmune diseases. I have obtained the FDA adverse reaction list of over

8000 individuals with reported adverse reactions for the past 4 years (Merck

vaccine only, does not include the Kline vaccine which I have been told

includes another 15,000 or more). The vast majority of adults who have these

same symptoms including rash, joint pain, chronic fatigue, neurological

disorders, neuritis, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus like syndrome and multiple

sclerosis like syndrome. (It has been reported by the head of the FDA that

these reports indicate only about one tenth of the total numbers of adverse

reactions.) Furthermore, a report was presented at the National Rheumatology

meeting last year entitled " An epidemic of rheumatoid arthritis caused by the

Hepatitis B vaccine, " demonstrating the correlation between severe adverse

effects and MHC genes. It is now apparent to me that it may be essential that

more studies be carried out to evaluate patients with severe adverse effects

before this vaccine is used universally, especially in infants who would not

be at high risk for becoming infected with this virus. If we are successful

in our studies, we should be able to develop methods to predict which

individuals might be susceptible to adverse reactions.

At one point a neurologist specialist stated in front of myself and Bohn that

" We are having the same problem with your (Bohn's) diagnosis as we have with

vets with Gulf War Syndrome who have the identical symptoms as yours--but

there are no definite tests. " In reading various reports on the Gulf War

Veterans illnesses, it appears that many of these symptoms are those which

are related to the large numbers of adverse reactions reported for the

hepatitis B vaccine. It is not clear to me, however, that this vaccine was

carefully evaluated as a potential cause of some of these reactions.

Although we have already identified numerous patients for our initial studies

and contacts, it would be a great benefit to this investigation if you had

identified a subset of any veterans having had the vaccine who exhibit these

symptoms. Any information you could provide me would be a great help.

My work address is:

Dr. Bonnie S. Dunbar, PhD

Professor

Department of Cell Biology Baylor College of Medicine

One Baylor Plaza

Houston, Texas 77030

Fax 713-798-7341

email bdunbar@...

or

bonnie@...

Thank you very much for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Bonnie Dunbar

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[Guest guest]

I am on another vaccine list- vacaware. I see a lot of the info from that list

posted already on this one. I usually wait a day to see whether the info from

the other list gets posted here then I might post some of the info on this one.

At this time not much hasnt been posted on both lists.

Barbara

Chatadict2@... wrote:

> From: Chatadict2@...

>

> I wondered if anyone on this list was on any other vaccination lists. I am

> on 3 including this one and wondered if I should forward some of the articles

> I am getting from the other lists to this one or not.

>

> Tonya

>

> ---------------------------

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In a message dated 6/28/99 5:22:08 AM Central Daylight Time,

Chatadict2@... writes:

<< I wondered if anyone on this list was on any other vaccination lists. I

am

on 3 including this one and wondered if I should forward some of the

articles

I am getting from the other lists to this one or not.

Tonya >>

I would love to read some of the good articles you come across. I hope you

will forward them to our list too (this is the only vaccine list I am on).

Thanks! Sharon

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Tonya,

I am on the vaccineinjuries list, but that is the only one. I am very

intersted in other articles.

Thanks,

Liz - son Cameron 12 months - corn allergic and will not be immunized at the

present time for his MMR - too much uncertainty

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane, I think our twins are just about the same age! Eli and Milo will

be 4 on September 6. Eli has DS. Both are doing great. I also have a son

who will be 6 in June! Welcome to the list!!

love debbi

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Debbi,

Thanks for the welcome. Our twins are the same age. and will be 4

September 26th! Coincidentally my sister also has boy/girl twins and they

will be 8 September 6! I would love to swap stories with you sometime soon.

Diane

[Guest guest]

Hello All

I'm doing some research for my best friend who's just found out her

daughter has Dysnomia. Internet research (Dogpile, Google, etc) doesn't give

me much. Can anyone point me (or her) in the right direction for some good

info on this one? Thanks everyone!

Pearland, Tx

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Go ask jeeves, I just put in dysnomia and a bunch of sites popped up, hope

this helps...Jo

Re: Digest Number 284

> Hello All

> I'm doing some research for my best friend who's just found out her

> daughter has Dysnomia. Internet research (Dogpile, Google, etc) doesn't

give

> me much. Can anyone point me (or her) in the right direction for some

good

> info on this one? Thanks everyone!

>

> Pearland, Tx

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

Check out www.ldonline.com and www.schwablearning.org. You also might find

it coupled with dysgraphia and dyslexia.

Missy

Re: Digest Number 284

Hello All

I'm doing some research for my best friend who's just found out her

daughter has Dysnomia. Internet research (Dogpile, Google, etc) doesn't

give

me much. Can anyone point me (or her) in the right direction for some

good

info on this one? Thanks everyone!

Pearland, Tx

[Guest guest]

Dear Don,

This formula sounds like it holds some promise for both me and my dogs. What

proportions are used and how do you prepare it. Is this yours or can you tell me

where it originated from?

Thanks,

Message: 4

Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 09:57:11 +0200

From: Don Quai <mysticalherbalist@...>

Subject: Joint Pain

*JOINT PAIN*

This formula is intended for use for animals suffering from hip

dysplasia, arthritis, trauma etc. to any of their legs and joints. Some

of the leading herbs are:

*Devil's Claw:* Its is primarily used as an anti-inflammatory, analgesic

(pain reduction), antirheumatic and a bitter..for digestion. Which of

course is useful in that many on going complaints are aggravated,

particularly in the older animal, because digestion and utilisation of

nutrients becomes less efficient as aging occurs.

Studies have shown it to be as good as phenylbutazone (anti-inflammatory

drug) without the side effects.

The anti-arthritic or anti-rheumatic symptoms appear to be most releived

when Devil's Claw is used for a period of six months or more. The joints

most positively affected are the larger joints such as the hips, knees

and also the overall spine.

*Alfalfa: *This plant is highly under-rated as a tonic, an aid for

building strong bones and teeth..and its vitamin/mineral

content....particularly calcium, magnesium and manganese, phosphorus and

potassium.

The roots of alfalfa grow down as far as 125 feet, making it able to

reach vital minerals, far beyond the reach of other vegetation.

It promotes strong bones and rebuilds decaed teeth. It is also useful

for lumbago, rheumatism, dyspepsia (indigestion), backache, chronic

ulcer, infections of the sinus, ear nose and throat.

Rich in chlorophyll, it stimulates growth of supportive connective

tissue and is useful for collagen disease, and therefore arthritis, etc.

*Horsetail: *High in silicea, horsetail acts as a remineraliser and

anti-rheumatic. It assists in preserving the elasticity of connective

tissue and controls the absorption of calcium. Its cleasing properties

rapidly removes urates, uric acid (gout) and cellulites from the system.

*Tumeric: *Has many, many wonderful uses...including anti-inflammatory

for arthritis and particularly rheumatoid arthritis, which responds to

very few things.

As an added bonus, though, Tumeric is one of the best antioxidants,

anti-cancer and cholesterol lowering herbs.

--

Peace, love and

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cweeks@... wrote:

> Dear Don,

> This formula sounds like it holds some promise for both me and my

> dogs. What

> proportions are used and how do you prepare it. Is this yours or can

> you tell me

> where it originated from?

> Thanks,

>

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Hi ,

No it is not mine. I ran across this in my usual researching. Here is

the link where you can purchase this product. It is in tincture form and

one could make this themselves very easily.

http://www.y2khealthanddetox.com/

You could try this:

3 parts Devils Claw

3 parts Alfalfa

2 parts Comfrey

2 parts Horsetail

1 part Tumeric

or play around and make it how your prefer. Read the monograph for each

herb and see what it does. Let this help guide you in your own formulation.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "