Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 True. Many times people don't like the truth. When they ask your opinion, very often it is less about the truth than it if a social judgement to see if they will let you in their group or not. If you disagree, you probably won't but if you say what they want then maybe so, though rejection is far more likely than offers of friendship. I've been following this thread so I'll also make my comments here. The post has merit. I see the point as being you have to camouflage yourself somewhat or otherwise the mob may turn on you. The Nazi image was a bit much though. Many other social groups could also be used. Anything from a street gang, school social club to the country club or political party could work. This doesn't mean changing your views to match those of the group or otherwise betraying yourself. Its simply toning it down to avoid conflict when it isn't necessary. Sometimes it is best to be underestimated so that when you do crank out some really great gem it shocks everyone, most especially if you are right. In a message dated 5/4/2011 1:31:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: All good points naturally, but thing about the consequences if the message doesn't get across with your subtlety. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 True. Many times people don't like the truth. When they ask your opinion, very often it is less about the truth than it if a social judgement to see if they will let you in their group or not. If you disagree, you probably won't but if you say what they want then maybe so, though rejection is far more likely than offers of friendship. I've been following this thread so I'll also make my comments here. The post has merit. I see the point as being you have to camouflage yourself somewhat or otherwise the mob may turn on you. The Nazi image was a bit much though. Many other social groups could also be used. Anything from a street gang, school social club to the country club or political party could work. This doesn't mean changing your views to match those of the group or otherwise betraying yourself. Its simply toning it down to avoid conflict when it isn't necessary. Sometimes it is best to be underestimated so that when you do crank out some really great gem it shocks everyone, most especially if you are right. In a message dated 5/4/2011 1:31:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: All good points naturally, but thing about the consequences if the message doesn't get across with your subtlety. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 When I was growing up, the best thing was to be as invisible as possible. This was very hard because I have some natural leadership tendencies but given my size and appearance, particularly as a child, they stood against me. That tends to happen in the NT world where relations seem to be less based on ability that "he can't physically force me to do it and I can beat him up if he pushes too hard so I'm not going to listen to him." You see this in the business world as well where being shorter and younger looking that most others you get the same BS treatment. When i grew up, tried to find a balance, and not verbally attack, BUT was often told I needed to be tactful.To be in controversy felt Ok when i was younger, but now don't have much energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 wrote;'This doesn't mean changing your views to match those of the group or otherwise betraying yourself. Its simply toning it down to avoid conflict when it isn't necessary. Sometimes it is best to be underestimated so that when you do crank out some really great gem it shocks everyone, most especially if you are right.'Many other social groups could also be used. My commentsInteresting points.Also we can only take on certain issues, some of us don't hav the energy to speak out all the time, and if we do, we may lose credibility by tacking many small issues.Example; if I was always writing to city council, or opposing all new developments in our neighborhood, etc, then I might become though of as that woman who always has an opinion on every issue, whereas If I only 'spoke out' on issues that really were important to me, then hopefully I would not become knows as some ne who was always 'yapping'rl 'My cat Rusty is a servant of the Living God....'adapted from a poem by SmartTo: FAMSecretSociety Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 8:21:45 AMSubject: Re: Re: A Rough Guide to Social Skills for Awkward Smart P... True. Many times people don't like the truth. When they ask your opinion, very often it is less about the truth than it if a social judgement to see if they will let you in their group or not. If you disagree, you probably won't but if you say what they want then maybe so, though rejection is far more likely than offers of friendship. I've been following this thread so I'll also make my comments here. The post has merit. I see the point as being you have to camouflage yourself somewhat or otherwise the mob may turn on you. The Nazi image was a bit much though. Many other social groups could also be used. Anything from a street gang, school social club to the country club or political party could work. This doesn't mean changing your views to match those of the group or otherwise betraying yourself. Its simply toning it down to avoid conflict when it isn't necessary. Sometimes it is best to be underestimated so that when you do crank out some really great gem it shocks everyone, most especially if you are right. In a message dated 5/4/2011 1:31:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: All good points naturally, but thing about the consequences if the message doesn't get across with your subtlety. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 In the past, i got the impression from others that I was supposed to keep quiet because I am female, and/or was 'just' a house wife; Of course THAT did not keep me quiet, I saw it as a form of prejudice. (IT seems society tries to suppress those who seem different, whether a boy who is not athletic, or a woman who is not afraid to voice an opinion, etc.sometimes I would be involved in some issue, and come up with ideas which surprised my 'opponents'.rl 'My cat Rusty is a servant of the Living God....'adapted from a poem by SmartTo: FAMSecretSociety Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 8:24:20 AMSubject: Re: Re: A Rough Guide to Social Skills for Awkward Smart P... When I was growing up, the best thing was to be as invisible as possible. This was very hard because I have some natural leadership tendencies but given my size and appearance, particularly as a child, they stood against me. That tends to happen in the NT world where relations seem to be less based on ability that "he can't physically force me to do it and I can beat him up if he pushes too hard so I'm not going to listen to him." You see this in the business world as well where being shorter and younger looking that most others you get the same BS treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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