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hahahah - congratulations on perfecting the kombucha, that will be my next

project.

I have been trying to perfect the art of kefir, similar frustrations - i found

out that commercial starter culture is not the genuine kefir grain article! its

a pseudo kefir that doesnt even work in raw unpasteurised milk due to the

natural bacteria in raw milk overpowering the pseudo kefir! No wonder mine wasnt

working in my unpasteurised milk! And to think how I have been babying it and

hoping.... grrrr !

Katrina

Question on Kombucha

2 different starter mushrooms, 5 months and many tries later, I

finally made the perfect batch of kombucha. I could enter it in a

contest, it's so good. My question is, I guess as it produced another

scobie and it sat on top of the other one, part of it was not under

liquid. Sometimes when I'm not fermenting I leave it in the fridge

with its own juice and all of it is not under liquid there either. Is

that bad? I don't want it to get pissed at me.

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I know on the Kombucha list they say never to refridgerate the scobies but

to keep them in a covered dish with some of the brew at room temperature.

On 1/15/06, crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

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> 2 different starter mushrooms, 5 months and many tries later, I

> finally made the perfect batch of kombucha. I could enter it in a

> contest, it's so good. My question is, I guess as it produced another

> scobie and it sat on top of the other one, part of it was not under

> liquid. Sometimes when I'm not fermenting I leave it in the fridge

> with its own juice and all of it is not under liquid there either. Is

> that bad?

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> I have been trying to perfect the art of kefir, similar frustrations

- i found out that commercial starter culture is not the genuine kefir

grain article! its a pseudo kefir that doesnt even work in raw

unpasteurised milk due to the natural bacteria in raw milk

overpowering the pseudo kefir! No wonder mine wasnt working in my

unpasteurised milk! And to think how I have been babying it and

hoping.... grrrr !

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That's odd. I use the powdered starter. I know it's probably heresy,

but I prefer the taste over the kefir made with the grains. I have no

problem making good kefir with raw milk. I just heat it up to 90

degrees, whisk in the powder, leave it usually 24 hours. Sometimes it

takes longer in the winter (have one right now that's been out for 40

hours, but it's getting there, judging by the smell -- yummm!)

Ann

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> I have been trying to perfect the art of kefir, similar

frustrations - i found out that commercial starter culture is not the

genuine kefir grain article! its a pseudo kefir that doesnt even work

in raw unpasteurised milk due to the natural bacteria in raw milk

overpowering the pseudo kefir! No wonder mine wasnt working in my

unpasteurised milk! And to think how I have been babying it and

hoping.... grrrr !

Where did you get your grains? I wanted to do Kefir next but I don't

want to get the wrong ones.

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Ann, heating to 90 degrees? is that fahrenheit? So, you heat it just

above room temperature?

I thought I understood why mine wasnt working after reading Dom's

kefir insite, in particular this page:

http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html#kefirnovice

which states that commercial kefir lacks the ability to culture

unpasteurised raw milk... It was interesting but is it correct?.. hmm

I was just using the powder from http://www.kefir.com.au/ and not

their full starter pack.. I wonder what was going on.

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> That's odd. I use the powdered starter. I know it's probably heresy,

> but I prefer the taste over the kefir made with the grains. I have no

> problem making good kefir with raw milk. I just heat it up to 90

> degrees, whisk in the powder, leave it usually 24 hours. Sometimes it

> takes longer in the winter (have one right now that's been out for 40

> hours, but it's getting there, judging by the smell -- yummm!)

>

> Ann

>

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