Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Smoothies: I've been expirementing with a few different things to get a good tasting supplement smoothie and my latest attempt w/cocoa was a dismal failure. I'd like to cut the fruit out to get the sugar down but still make something that tastes good. Right now the ingredients are: 1 c. raw milk kefir ¼ c. berries or ½ c. friut flavored goat milk yogurt, 1 egg yolk, 1 tbs nutritional yeast, 1 tsp flax/borage oil, ½ tsp bee pollen, ¼ tsp pascalite clay, ¼ tsp vanilla & a little honey. Does anyone have some good suggestions? ----------------------------------------------- ALSO... I've been subscribed to Dr. Mercola's newsletter for the past few months and have been recently considering getting his book Total Health. I'm a 'mixed' metabolic type and was thinking about the diet the book suggests. It sounds interesting and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it or any of the other products like the Whey Protein offered there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Hi , We add stevia to our cocoa protein shakes. I use cocoa, plain protein powder, coconut milk, some vanilla/almond/maple extract, cinnamon. ice-cubes, and stevia - all blended up until thick and creamy. These are not our big morning smoothies so they are missing some of the 'extras' we put in our berry shakes, but I like the creamy cocoa taste, nice and smooth. I tried Mercola's protein powder. Liked the taste and was excited to find raw whey, but it had ground up flax and xylitol in it. Two things I, personally, don't include in my diet so I'm back to my plain ole' whey and flavouring it myself. Tara > > Smoothies: I've been expirementing with a few different things to > get a good tasting supplement smoothie and my latest attempt w/cocoa > was a dismal failure. I'd like to cut the fruit out to get the sugar > down but still make something that tastes good. > > Right now the ingredients are: 1 c. raw milk kefir ¼ c. berries or ½ > c. friut flavored goat milk yogurt, 1 egg yolk, 1 tbs nutritional > yeast, 1 tsp flax/borage oil, ½ tsp bee pollen, ¼ tsp pascalite clay, > ¼ tsp vanilla & a little honey. > > Does anyone have some good suggestions? > > ----------------------------------------------- > > ALSO... I've been subscribed to Dr. Mercola's newsletter for the > past few months and have been recently considering getting his book > Total Health. I'm a 'mixed' metabolic type and was thinking about > the diet the book suggests. It sounds interesting and I > was wondering if anyone has any experience with it or any of the > other products like the Whey Protein offered there? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:45 AM, tnneuf wrote: > Hi , > We add stevia to our cocoa protein shakes. I use cocoa, plain protein > powder, coconut > milk, some vanilla/almond/maple extract, cinnamon. ice-cubes, and > stevia - all blended > up until thick and creamy. These are not our big morning smoothies so > they are missing > some of the 'extras' we put in our berry shakes, but I like the creamy > cocoa taste, nice and > smooth. > I tried Mercola's protein powder. Liked the taste and was excited to > find raw whey, but it > had ground up flax and xylitol in it. Two things I, personally, don't > include in my diet so > I'm back to my plain ole' whey and flavouring it myself. > Tara It's alarming to hear so much emphasis put on protein powders when Sally Fallon says that protein powders and especially whey powders are the only bad cholesterol producers and are nothing but free radicals due to the high heat during squeezing through tiny holes to get to the powdery consistancy. Does anyone know of a protein powder that uses a safe method? My football playing grandson was told to use protein powder to bulk up on protein and I worry. Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Tara- >We add stevia to our cocoa protein shakes. Given that stevia depresses testosterone and impairs female fertility, at least among rats, you might want to reconsider this. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 - >It's alarming to hear so much emphasis put on protein powders when >Sally Fallon says that protein powders and especially whey powders are >the only bad cholesterol producers and are nothing but free radicals >due to the high heat during squeezing through tiny holes to get to the >powdery consistancy. I'm sorry, but that's both incorrect and not what Sally Fallon says. >Does anyone know of a protein powder that uses a safe method? My >football playing grandson was told to use protein powder to bulk up on >protein and I worry. I'm not sure anyone knows for sure, but what's your grandson's budget? Goatein is likely the very best and safest -- made from organic grass-fed goats and concentrated at very low temperatures. Sally Fallon recently mistakenly characterized it as a whey isolate in WT, but it's simply a milk protein concentrate, complete with casein. Whether whey is actually necessarily bad news is another question entirely, and I'm not sure that it is, but that's a separate issue. The problem is that Goatein is ferociously expensive. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 , > >Does anyone know of a protein powder that uses a safe method? My >football playing grandson was told to use protein powder to bulk up on >protein and I worry. > I would recommend that your grandson avoid the powders and stick with regular foods. He'll bulk up with a healthy diet containing adequate protein and fat, plenty of strength training, and the right genetics. If he has not reached puberty, then he'll have to wait some. Deanna, former personal trainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 , >Given that stevia depresses testosterone and impairs female >fertility, at least among rats, you might want to reconsider this. > > Hey, I have been meaning to thank you for posting the stevia rat study. DH and I were using a bit in coffee, but we'd rather not take any chances in light of these developments. Of course, Elaine Gotschall has been leery of stevia for years as it resembles a steroid molecularly. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/stevia.htm Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 > Given that stevia depresses testosterone and impairs female > fertility, at least among rats, you might want to reconsider this. , do you know where I can find specific information on this (studies maybe)? I have never heard this information before and would like to look into it more closely. Thank you. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Tara- >, do you know where I can find specific information on this >(studies maybe)? I have never >heard this information before and would like to look into it more closely. I posted a study a few days ago. Here's the message again. (Hmm, I see this isn't the one that discussed female fertility. I'll have to dig that up too.) This is just rat data, but still, it looks like cause for concern. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1\ \ 0619379 & dopt=Abstract >J Ethnopharmacol. 1999 Nov 1;67(2):157-61. Related Articles, >Links > >Effects of chronic administration of Stevia rebaudiana on fertility in rats. > >Melis MS. > >Departamento de Biologia, Setor de Fisiologia, Faculdade de >Filosofia, Ciencias e Letras, Universidade de Sao o, Ribeirao >Preto, Brazil. msmelis@... > >A study conducted on prepubertal male rats showed that chronic >administration (60 days) of a Stevia rebaudiana aqueous extract >produced a decrease in final weight of testis, seminal vesicle and >cauda epididymidis. In addition, the fructose content of the >accessory sex glands and the epididymal sperm concentration are >decreased. Stevia treatment tended to decrease the plasma >testosterone level, probably by a putative affinity of glycosides of >extract for a certain androgen receptor, and no alteration occurred >in luteinizing hormone level. These data are consistent with the >possibility that Stevia extracts may decrease the fertility of male rats. > >PMID: 10619379 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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