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Smoothies: I've been expirementing with a few different things to

get a good tasting supplement smoothie and my latest attempt w/cocoa

was a dismal failure. I'd like to cut the fruit out to get the sugar

down but still make something that tastes good.

Right now the ingredients are: 1 c. raw milk kefir ¼ c. berries or ½

c. friut flavored goat milk yogurt, 1 egg yolk, 1 tbs nutritional

yeast, 1 tsp flax/borage oil, ½ tsp bee pollen, ¼ tsp pascalite clay,

¼ tsp vanilla & a little honey.

Does anyone have some good suggestions?

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ALSO... I've been subscribed to Dr. Mercola's newsletter for the

past few months and have been recently considering getting his book

Total Health. I'm a 'mixed' metabolic type and was thinking about

the diet the book suggests. It sounds interesting and I

was wondering if anyone has any experience with it or any of the

other products like the Whey Protein offered there?

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Hi ,

We add stevia to our cocoa protein shakes. I use cocoa, plain protein powder,

coconut

milk, some vanilla/almond/maple extract, cinnamon. ice-cubes, and stevia - all

blended

up until thick and creamy. These are not our big morning smoothies so they are

missing

some of the 'extras' we put in our berry shakes, but I like the creamy cocoa

taste, nice and

smooth.

I tried Mercola's protein powder. Liked the taste and was excited to find raw

whey, but it

had ground up flax and xylitol in it. Two things I, personally, don't include

in my diet so

I'm back to my plain ole' whey and flavouring it myself.

Tara

>

> Smoothies: I've been expirementing with a few different things to

> get a good tasting supplement smoothie and my latest attempt w/cocoa

> was a dismal failure. I'd like to cut the fruit out to get the sugar

> down but still make something that tastes good.

>

> Right now the ingredients are: 1 c. raw milk kefir ¼ c. berries or ½

> c. friut flavored goat milk yogurt, 1 egg yolk, 1 tbs nutritional

> yeast, 1 tsp flax/borage oil, ½ tsp bee pollen, ¼ tsp pascalite clay,

> ¼ tsp vanilla & a little honey.

>

> Does anyone have some good suggestions?

>

> -----------------------------------------------

>

> ALSO... I've been subscribed to Dr. Mercola's newsletter for the

> past few months and have been recently considering getting his book

> Total Health. I'm a 'mixed' metabolic type and was thinking about

> the diet the book suggests. It sounds interesting and I

> was wondering if anyone has any experience with it or any of the

> other products like the Whey Protein offered there?

>

>

>

>

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On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:45 AM, tnneuf wrote:

> Hi ,

> We add stevia to our cocoa protein shakes. I use cocoa, plain protein

> powder, coconut

> milk, some vanilla/almond/maple extract, cinnamon. ice-cubes, and

> stevia - all blended

> up until thick and creamy. These are not our big morning smoothies so

> they are missing

> some of the 'extras' we put in our berry shakes, but I like the creamy

> cocoa taste, nice and

> smooth.

> I tried Mercola's protein powder. Liked the taste and was excited to

> find raw whey, but it

> had ground up flax and xylitol in it. Two things I, personally, don't

> include in my diet so

> I'm back to my plain ole' whey and flavouring it myself.

> Tara

It's alarming to hear so much emphasis put on protein powders when

Sally Fallon says that protein powders and especially whey powders are

the only bad cholesterol producers and are nothing but free radicals

due to the high heat during squeezing through tiny holes to get to the

powdery consistancy.

Does anyone know of a protein powder that uses a safe method? My

football playing grandson was told to use protein powder to bulk up on

protein and I worry.

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Tara-

>We add stevia to our cocoa protein shakes.

Given that stevia depresses testosterone and impairs female

fertility, at least among rats, you might want to reconsider this.

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>It's alarming to hear so much emphasis put on protein powders when

>Sally Fallon says that protein powders and especially whey powders are

>the only bad cholesterol producers and are nothing but free radicals

>due to the high heat during squeezing through tiny holes to get to the

>powdery consistancy.

I'm sorry, but that's both incorrect and not what Sally Fallon says.

>Does anyone know of a protein powder that uses a safe method? My

>football playing grandson was told to use protein powder to bulk up on

>protein and I worry.

I'm not sure anyone knows for sure, but what's your grandson's

budget? Goatein is likely the very best and safest -- made from

organic grass-fed goats and concentrated at very low

temperatures. Sally Fallon recently mistakenly characterized it as a

whey isolate in WT, but it's simply a milk protein concentrate,

complete with casein. Whether whey is actually necessarily bad news

is another question entirely, and I'm not sure that it is, but that's

a separate issue. The problem is that Goatein is ferociously expensive.

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>Does anyone know of a protein powder that uses a safe method? My

>football playing grandson was told to use protein powder to bulk up on

>protein and I worry.

>

I would recommend that your grandson avoid the powders and stick with

regular foods. He'll bulk up with a healthy diet containing adequate

protein and fat, plenty of strength training, and the right genetics.

If he has not reached puberty, then he'll have to wait some.

Deanna, former personal trainer

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>Given that stevia depresses testosterone and impairs female

>fertility, at least among rats, you might want to reconsider this.

>

>

Hey, I have been meaning to thank you for posting the stevia rat study.

DH and I were using a bit in coffee, but we'd rather not take any

chances in light of these developments. Of course, Elaine Gotschall has

been leery of stevia for years as it resembles a steroid molecularly.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/stevia.htm

Deanna

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> Given that stevia depresses testosterone and impairs female

> fertility, at least among rats, you might want to reconsider this.

, do you know where I can find specific information on this (studies maybe)?

I have never

heard this information before and would like to look into it more closely.

Thank you.

Tara

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Tara-

>, do you know where I can find specific information on this

>(studies maybe)? I have never

>heard this information before and would like to look into it more closely.

I posted a study a few days ago. Here's the message again. (Hmm, I

see this isn't the one that discussed female fertility. I'll have to

dig that up too.)

This is just rat data, but still, it looks like cause for concern.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1\

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0619379 & dopt=Abstract

>J Ethnopharmacol. 1999 Nov 1;67(2):157-61. Related Articles,

>Links

>

>Effects of chronic administration of Stevia rebaudiana on fertility in rats.

>

>Melis MS.

>

>Departamento de Biologia, Setor de Fisiologia, Faculdade de

>Filosofia, Ciencias e Letras, Universidade de Sao o, Ribeirao

>Preto, Brazil. msmelis@...

>

>A study conducted on prepubertal male rats showed that chronic

>administration (60 days) of a Stevia rebaudiana aqueous extract

>produced a decrease in final weight of testis, seminal vesicle and

>cauda epididymidis. In addition, the fructose content of the

>accessory sex glands and the epididymal sperm concentration are

>decreased. Stevia treatment tended to decrease the plasma

>testosterone level, probably by a putative affinity of glycosides of

>extract for a certain androgen receptor, and no alteration occurred

>in luteinizing hormone level. These data are consistent with the

>possibility that Stevia extracts may decrease the fertility of male rats.

>

>PMID: 10619379 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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