Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 http://www.businessinsider.com/qaddafi-threatens-european-oil-interests-in-libya\ -2011-3 Qaddafi Threatens European Oil Interests in Libya Ellis Mar. 28, 2011, 1:06 PM Italy's oil company, Eni, has major oil and gas operations in Libya. So does British Petroleum. Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddafi is now saying that he may seize those operations and turn them over to India and China (and perhaps Russia as well). Yesterday, the besieged Qaddafi delivered a fresh tirade against the allied forces seeking his ouster, pledging retaliation and saying he would fight a long war to victory. ''Those who are on the land will win the battle,'' he declared, warning without explanation that ''oil will not be left to the United States, France and Britain''. Earlier, Col. Qaddafi told RT: " We do not believe the West any longer, that is why we invite Russian, Chinese and Indian companies to invest in Libya's oil and construction spheres. We do not trust (the European and North American) firms – they took part in the conspiracy against us. " The prospect of expropriation is now a key variable in the allied military action against Col. Qaddafi. The Italians already are going to considerable lengths to portray themselves as non-combatants in the allied air strikes against Libyan military targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Amongst other things I think this war is about protecting European oil supplies. That means this mess is like the Balkans: its a European problem they should be handling. I saw an interview recently that was recorded in 2009. The speaker, who was an economist I believe, predicted that was the US economy got worse and closer to collapse, that the government would try to distract the people, and maybe boost the economy through military spending (which is a false economy since it comes from taxes) by starting another war. This is actually quite common. Nations on the edge frequently start wars to try to hide the real troubles from the people, not to mention hiding the last looting of the treasury and banks by the elite. So far there is little said about how long this action will last, if ground troops will be sent it, if there will be nation building. Likewise little has been said about going against Syria and other nations. In a message dated 3/28/2011 1:25:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: Qaddafi Threatens European Oil Interests in Libya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Amongst other things I think this war is about protecting European oil supplies. That means this mess is like the Balkans: its a European problem they should be handling. I saw an interview recently that was recorded in 2009. The speaker, who was an economist I believe, predicted that was the US economy got worse and closer to collapse, that the government would try to distract the people, and maybe boost the economy through military spending (which is a false economy since it comes from taxes) by starting another war. This is actually quite common. Nations on the edge frequently start wars to try to hide the real troubles from the people, not to mention hiding the last looting of the treasury and banks by the elite. So far there is little said about how long this action will last, if ground troops will be sent it, if there will be nation building. Likewise little has been said about going against Syria and other nations. In a message dated 3/28/2011 1:25:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: Qaddafi Threatens European Oil Interests in Libya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 " This is actually quite common. Nations on the edge frequently start wars to try to hide the real troubles from the people, not to mention hiding the last looting of the treasury and banks by the elite. So far there is little said about how long this action will last, if ground troops will be sent it, if there will be nation building. Likewise little has been said about going against Syria and other nations. " It's getting near to the point where people are no longer fooled. There was a mass-protest in London over the weekend. Other developed countries are starting to see similar discontent. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 " This is actually quite common. Nations on the edge frequently start wars to try to hide the real troubles from the people, not to mention hiding the last looting of the treasury and banks by the elite. So far there is little said about how long this action will last, if ground troops will be sent it, if there will be nation building. Likewise little has been said about going against Syria and other nations. " It's getting near to the point where people are no longer fooled. There was a mass-protest in London over the weekend. Other developed countries are starting to see similar discontent. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 That event was unions protesting budget cuts, not about the wars. There is growing unrest but it is coming from union people unwilling to accept cuts when national economies are teetering. In a message dated 3/28/2011 4:56:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: It's getting near to the point where people are no longer fooled. There was a mass-protest in London over the weekend. Other developed countries are starting to see similar discontent.Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 That event was unions protesting budget cuts, not about the wars. There is growing unrest but it is coming from union people unwilling to accept cuts when national economies are teetering. In a message dated 3/28/2011 4:56:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: It's getting near to the point where people are no longer fooled. There was a mass-protest in London over the weekend. Other developed countries are starting to see similar discontent.Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yes. My point is, people these days are not as distracted by wars because their situations at home are now significant enough for them to care more about themselves than for other people. Administrator That event was unions protesting budget cuts, not about the wars. There is growing unrest but it is coming from union people unwilling to accept cuts when national economies are teetering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yes. My point is, people these days are not as distracted by wars because their situations at home are now significant enough for them to care more about themselves than for other people. Administrator That event was unions protesting budget cuts, not about the wars. There is growing unrest but it is coming from union people unwilling to accept cuts when national economies are teetering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Well, the thing is like I said it is the unions who are protesting. It is the unions, in particular the public sector unions, who are responsible for a large part of the current economic crisis. In the US, unions has squeezed business so hard that they have gone overseas and taken millions of jobs with them, jobs that won't be coming back. Public sector unions are bankrupting cities and states with their high health care and pension costs. But none of these unions are willing to take cuts, preferring to crash the whole system rather than give up their lock on power. A few years ago when gas prices got so high, the workers at the mills agreed to take a pay cut in order to keep the mills going. At the same time, land owners and the mills worked to give a little extra to the loggers so they could afford the fuel cost increases. Still, half of the loggers went under. I don't think unions would have been so willing to cooperate and mills would have closed. My point is that people are protesting and looking out for themselves, it is in a bad way right now because the ones protesting, as in Greece, are the ones who need to be taken down a few notches in order to have a hope of pulling out of this mess. When government workers get paid twice what a civilian worker does not counting government worker benefits, that's way out of whack. In a message dated 3/28/2011 5:14:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: Yes. My point is, people these days are not as distracted by wars because their situations at home are now significant enough for them to care more about themselves than for other people. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Well, the thing is like I said it is the unions who are protesting. It is the unions, in particular the public sector unions, who are responsible for a large part of the current economic crisis. In the US, unions has squeezed business so hard that they have gone overseas and taken millions of jobs with them, jobs that won't be coming back. Public sector unions are bankrupting cities and states with their high health care and pension costs. But none of these unions are willing to take cuts, preferring to crash the whole system rather than give up their lock on power. A few years ago when gas prices got so high, the workers at the mills agreed to take a pay cut in order to keep the mills going. At the same time, land owners and the mills worked to give a little extra to the loggers so they could afford the fuel cost increases. Still, half of the loggers went under. I don't think unions would have been so willing to cooperate and mills would have closed. My point is that people are protesting and looking out for themselves, it is in a bad way right now because the ones protesting, as in Greece, are the ones who need to be taken down a few notches in order to have a hope of pulling out of this mess. When government workers get paid twice what a civilian worker does not counting government worker benefits, that's way out of whack. In a message dated 3/28/2011 5:14:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes: Yes. My point is, people these days are not as distracted by wars because their situations at home are now significant enough for them to care more about themselves than for other people. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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