and Chelation

May 18, 2006

Are some children treated for autism with both the protocol and

chelation?

If so, is it usually with the same doctor, or a different doctor for each

type of therapy?

Thank you,

Kristy

May 19, 2006

Hi Kristy,

I don't know of any doctor following the protocol who would encourage

chelation. Why? Well possibly without knowing it, hit the nail on

the head in one of her posts when she said that children treated for

may eliminate the metals in their system by themselves. This is precisely

what happens. This makes safer or at least more effective than

chelation because our kids' bodies are processing these metals when they are

ready. The metals got stored up in their bodies because their bodies didn't

know what to do with them while their immune systems were not functioning

properly. When the viruses are treated and the immune system gets stronger,

our kids' bodies will seek out and eliminate the metals stores in their

bodies when their bodies are ready to do this. I can't emphasize how neat

this is. If you chelate when the body isn't ready to " deal with " the

metals, the metals will simply get stashed someplace else, maybe someplace

really really bad (like the brain!). By letting our kids's bodies find and

take care of metals in their own time, you ensure that the metal won't just

move around in their system and get stashed somewhere else. This, more than

some opposition to chelating chemicals, is why I personally think that the

approach is the safer and yes, smarter way to go. God made our bodies

really smart and when it is functioning the way it should once the immune

system is restored, our own natural systems will know what to do.

I hope this helps you understand the /chelation debate. I know it can

be a heated topic, but I don't think it needs to be. Just know that

does not ignore the metals problem that many of our kids have, it simply has

a different approach.

Sincerely,

April

May 20, 2006

My son completed chelation before starting treatment with Dr. Goldberg so at

least in our case he did not refuse to see a child just because of chelation.

I'm sure he would take it on a case by case basis. In our case, we had an

identified exposure from MSMA spraying on a golf course where we lived. Our

whole family was treated through a doctor experienced in metals toxicity well

before the DAN doctors started doing this treatment. The methods we used were

different from the approach that is currently used in many cases of autism.

He spent a great deal of time during our initial consult discussing his

thoughts about chelation. Since I tape recorded our consult, I was able to

refer

back to it many times to try to determine exactly what his problem with

chelation is. He clearly believes that it can cause brain damage and is not

needed

in most of the cases unless there was a clear exposure and the testing was done

at a reputable hospital. Even then, he firmly believes that getting the body

healthier will help it eliminate metals on its own. During that consult, he

talked about an adult patient with clear-cut mercury poisoning prior to

starting who later did not test to be toxic in mercury after a year or so

into

. I did not ask him to elaborate on what type of testing so cannot

comment on that.

His concerns, as best I've been able to gather, are about redistributing the

metals to areas where they will do more harm and de-mineralizing the body

during the process. Both are valid concerns and need to be monitored carefully

if

a person needs to chelate due to metals poisoning.

While I truly believe that we needed to go through chelation and all

benefitted from it, I personally would not recommend that chelation and be

done

together (at the same time). Since the goal is to try to get the immune

system as cooled down and balanced as possible, I can understand how chelating

at the same time you're doing this approach would be very counter-productive.

When you chelate, you go through many periods where the body is less balanced

and actually can get stressed as the metals are being pulled out.

He did say that he found it much more difficult to stabilize a child with the

protocol if they had gone through chelation. Fortunately, this was not

the case for my son. I could never get a clear answer as to why but I suspect

that it may have been that either the kids who had chelated and then moved to

were those who did not respond well to chelation so may be more

difficult cases anyway; did not complete chelation and perhaps did have some

redistribution or damage along the way; or had parents who were more likely to

add

other things to their child's protocol without Dr. Goldberg's knowledge so the

results were skewed.

Gaylen

May 20, 2006

I just wanted to throw in here, in response to the general conversation,

that I believe I remember Dr. Goldberg saying that he will not treat kids

who are being chelated and that in the past he has found that children who

have been chelated prior to seeing him do not seem to respond as well to the

treatments. If I remember correctly, he said that he feared that might

indicate that these children had been damaged by the chelation.

If anyone remembers the source of these comments please feel free to add to

my comments... maybe it was the old video. I can't seem to find it in any

of the articles on his website.

I'm not trying to start an argument here but merely throwing in what I

remember Dr. G's comments to be on this subject.

Caroline

May 20, 2006

This is the kind of stuff that stops conversations. I hear things like this on

other boards about SSRI's causing brain damage. Really, I should just stop

trying, really, I should. Egos abound.

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