Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 But you are presuming that having a dx as a child would have changed your parents and how they raised you. IN fact, many people not dx'd with anything have grown up with perfectly dysfunctional families. It happens all the time. Roxanna Re: ( ) SPECT At ninety-one dollars it isn't expensive for me, but if it costs ninety-one here and three-thousand over there, I wouldn't recommend a passive acceptance of the ironically named " free market. " I am definitely convinced that if I had been (along with my father) properly diagnosed with Asperger's Disorder thirty or forty years ago, and was raised appropriately, that it would have made a night and day difference in my life. By the latter of course, I am also refering to the circumstances of a dysfunctional family, with alcohol, drug abuse, and narcissism. When I was last in the States I spent some time with a family whose youngest son has A.S. just like me. A thoroughly functional family, full of stability and love, where people resolve their differences like grown-ups rather than resorting to drama and recrimination. The mother is fully involved in keeping up to date on all issues related to A.S. and is always monitoring her son's progress, though the father is equally involved in his children's well-being. It was both inspiring and, for me, sad in terms of see what my childhood could have been like but wasn't. Rick On 8/13/06, Bernadette Waguespack <bwaguespack@...> wrote: > > > i often think about how lucky andrew is that was born when he was. if he had > been born 20 or 30 years ago, he surely would not have been as successful > as he has been. i'm sure he would have been written off as a behavior > problem and his intelligence would have gone to waste. > > i wish you luck with your search for a definite diagnoses. i'm sorry it's so > expensive but thats how our world works. greed wins. > > bernadette > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 A lot of us come from dysfunctional. It makes me wonder how many functional families there are? *grin* Well, we have the future, and that is what we are all working towards:) *smiles* > > At ninety-one dollars it isn't expensive for me, but if it costs > ninety-one here and three-thousand over there, I wouldn't recommend a > passive acceptance of the ironically named " free market. " > > I am definitely convinced that if I had been (along with my father) > properly diagnosed with Asperger's Disorder thirty or forty years ago, > and was raised appropriately, that it would have made a night and day > difference in my life. By the latter of course, I am also refering to > the circumstances of a dysfunctional family, with alcohol, drug abuse, > and narcissism. > > When I was last in the States I spent some time with a family whose > youngest son has A.S. just like me. A thoroughly functional family, > full of stability and love, where people resolve their differences > like grown-ups rather than resorting to drama and recrimination. The > mother is fully involved in keeping up to date on all issues related > to A.S. and is always monitoring her son's progress, though the father > is equally involved in his children's well-being. It was both > inspiring and, for me, sad in terms of see what my childhood could > have been like but wasn't. > > Rick > > On Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 As for me and getting diagnosed, I have come to realize, if we don't have any problems, no need for a diagnosis. If we have a lot of problems, then a diagnosis is much better. For example, Once I got my diagnosis of A.S. these labels just dissapeared..... lazy, stupid, big mouth, foolish, weird, rude, mental, empty headed, nieve (OK spelled wrong, hated that word anyways) I mean the list goes on but I gave myself this list, so once I got a different label, I took it. Sometimes we just need that extra reassurance that we are not all of those labels. For me, also, it was a way to tell my husband that yes, My life is disorganized, I have all of these things I do that are annoying as hell (hating certain noises, not being able to tolerate certain touches, difficulty standing up for myself, etc) but most of that is related to A.S. He needed it in writing FROM A PROFESSIONAL before he even started to listen to me. It probably wouldn't have helped me when I was little, they didn't know about A.S. anyway, so I personally don't care, but I am looking forward and I plan on making a big difference in my kids lives. I guess it is one of those " every person needs something different " things, and for Rick, I think he really needed this label, too. I don't even know him, but I know he got some negative labels slapped in his face. I imagine he might have given himself some just like I had?!?! perhaps???? > > But you are presuming that having a dx as a child would have changed your parents and how they raised you. IN fact, many people not dx'd with anything have grown up with perfectly dysfunctional families. It happens all the time. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I totally understand what he's saying. Its not the fact that he " thinks " she's a nut, (he's probably not the only one that thinks that) because she is not really the issue. We have all had to deal with inept therapists. The test results are what " he " needs, not for someone else, but for himself. It would be a confirmation of his own suspicions and an explanation for all those " things " that he couldn't understand as a child. Will it change what happened to him as a child. No it won't. But if the test proves what he already believes to be true then he will have a name for it. I understand that. Mine was A.D.D., but it was almost a relief when I had a professional confirm my own suspicions. It was almost like a weight is lifted off your shoulders. It didn't change my life but at least now I am not as hard on myself, and when I do the little things I do, instead of berating myself I try to give myself the " I'll do better next time speech " . If the test does not confirm his suspicions then he will just deal with it, just like we all do when we take our children for different test and the results aren't what we would have hoped for. --- Original Message ----- From: Roxanna Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Re: ( ) SPECT I just don't get it. It gives you proof to show whom? You can't go back to childhood and show anyone or change anything. It's done. You could probably go back and show the therapist but why bother - she's a nut. So if you know you have this, then why do you need proof? It would seem that you don't know you have it. And then what if you have this test and it doesn't show anything abnormal anywhere? What then? Roxanna Re: ( ) SPECT On 8/12/06, Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: > > > Dr. Phil wouldn't be my top endorser for mental health products. That said, why would you need a brain scan like this anyway? > > Roxanna That is a good question, Roxanna. I guess I can say that I am intrigued the possibility of having empirical proof of a definite abnormality in my brain. All my life I have been prone to tics, compulsions, and feelings which I simply could not understand. One therapist in my background was a hyper-Freudian who attributed it all to misplaced sexual energy, even when I made it perfectly clear there was no erotic component to what I was going through. To which she claimed it was therefore proof of her thesis, because I was denying it. Repression, ya know? Apart from that was a lifetime of constant shaming from my peers, my parents, my teachers, other therapists, and employers. I pretty much auto-diagnosed myself two years ago when I first heard about Asperger's on a TV news program; it struck a chord with me and I immediately started Googling (Google is one of my compulsions -- I am an absolute wizard at gathering data) everything I could about Asperger's. The online data blew me away, because for the first time I was reading my life in print, all sorts of idiosyncrasies that I thought no one else had, much less understood. The professional diagnosis was virtually an afterthought, with the doctors in question taken aback by how well-informed I was coming into the office. By coincidence, I was an acquaintance of Dawn Prince-, a nationally recognized woman with Asperger's, who had written a book about her experiences. It was Dawn who recommended to me the same doctors who had diagnosed her a few years earlier (we're the same age, BTW). Still, Asperger's diagnoses are largely based on an assessment of behavior (for children) or memories and admissions (for adults). I know beyond a doubt that I definitely do have High Functioning Autism, but the possibility of seeing something definite on a scan means something to me nonetheless as validation, in terms of empirical proof of there being something uniquely different about my brain. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 rick, would you mind giving me your opinion about what i should tell andrew regarding his autism? i've never made it a point to sit down and explain anything to him. i've been very on top of things, i feel. i sensed the very day that he came home from the hospital that something was " off " . he's been in some sort of therapy or special education since he was 17 months old. i guess i assume that he knows that he is different and i've never felt the need to make it a big deal. i don't want him to feel bad about it. if you were me, would you have a sit down talk with your autistic child regarding his/her differences? he's 9 years old btw. thank you for your help. bernadette On 8/13/06, Rick Segreda <rick.segreda@...> wrote: > > At ninety-one dollars it isn't expensive for me, but if it costs > ninety-one here and three-thousand over there, I wouldn't recommend a > passive acceptance of the ironically named " free market. " > > I am definitely convinced that if I had been (along with my father) > properly diagnosed with Asperger's Disorder thirty or forty years ago, > and was raised appropriately, that it would have made a night and day > difference in my life. By the latter of course, I am also refering to > the circumstances of a dysfunctional family, with alcohol, drug abuse, > and narcissism. > > When I was last in the States I spent some time with a family whose > youngest son has A.S. just like me. A thoroughly functional family, > full of stability and love, where people resolve their differences > like grown-ups rather than resorting to drama and recrimination. The > mother is fully involved in keeping up to date on all issues related > to A.S. and is always monitoring her son's progress, though the father > is equally involved in his children's well-being. It was both > inspiring and, for me, sad in terms of see what my childhood could > have been like but wasn't. > > Rick > > > On 8/13/06, Bernadette Waguespack <bwaguespack@...<bwaguespack%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > > > i often think about how lucky andrew is that was born when he was. if he > had > > been born 20 or 30 years ago, he surely would not have been as > successful > > as he has been. i'm sure he would have been written off as a behavior > > problem and his intelligence would have gone to waste. > > > > i wish you luck with your search for a definite diagnoses. i'm sorry > it's so > > expensive but thats how our world works. greed wins. > > > > bernadette > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Exactly! It is much easier to just see your parents for who they are and accept that they did the best they knew how. Not everyone can do that, I'm sure. And some parents are so horrible and don't derserve that perspective. But I think many people are just living - trying to do what they can. Some just are not cut out to be nuturing loving parents. They do the best they can even if they suck at it. And nobody is really living a perfect life either. I often think they are, lol, but things happen if you pay attention and you will see that they are not all so wonderful as they make it look to the outside world. I don't think growing up in the dyfunctional family makes one have a disorder like Asperger's. I think rather that having Asperger's would change one's perspective. The people I know with AS often see things differently and blame things on irrelevant objects or people. Like a friend's son was telling me all about this movie that I had seen and he said, " And the leaf stopped the wheel. " Well, the leaf did not cause the wheel to stop at all, the wheel got stuck in a rut and stopped. But he saw a leaf also and that is what he focused on and reasoned that it had caused the bike to stop. That, to me, is a totally different perspective and not even using common sense. And I would gather that his recollection of growing up would be distorted to a similar degree and he will remember things differently, if he does remember them. People with autism have memory deficits and I have been reading about how they can not remember personal events as well as events that do not affect them personally. I wonder how that equates when one is remembering childhood? I don't know. Roxanna Re: ( ) SPECT A lot of us come from dysfunctional. It makes me wonder how many functional families there are? *grin* Well, we have the future, and that is what we are all working towards:) *smiles* > > At ninety-one dollars it isn't expensive for me, but if it costs > ninety-one here and three-thousand over there, I wouldn't recommend a > passive acceptance of the ironically named " free market. " > > I am definitely convinced that if I had been (along with my father) > properly diagnosed with Asperger's Disorder thirty or forty years ago, > and was raised appropriately, that it would have made a night and day > difference in my life. By the latter of course, I am also refering to > the circumstances of a dysfunctional family, with alcohol, drug abuse, > and narcissism. > > When I was last in the States I spent some time with a family whose > youngest son has A.S. just like me. A thoroughly functional family, > full of stability and love, where people resolve their differences > like grown-ups rather than resorting to drama and recrimination. The > mother is fully involved in keeping up to date on all issues related > to A.S. and is always monitoring her son's progress, though the father > is equally involved in his children's well-being. It was both > inspiring and, for me, sad in terms of see what my childhood could > have been like but wasn't. > > Rick > > On . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 You could say that about anyone though. We all grew up with ideas about ourselves. But the point is, this is a test that is not proven to dx anything. It only tells you what parts of the brain are working at various times. It does not say, " You have AS " or anything else. It could be done and be totally ambiguous with the findings. It could be done and show that you have a perfectly " normal " functioning brain. And then what? PS: If my dh didn't " believe " me and needed proof from a real doctor, he would probably not be my dh much longer. I think that's awful - thinking you are a liar? Roxanna Re: ( ) SPECT As for me and getting diagnosed, I have come to realize, if we don't have any problems, no need for a diagnosis. If we have a lot of problems, then a diagnosis is much better. For example, Once I got my diagnosis of A.S. these labels just dissapeared..... lazy, stupid, big mouth, foolish, weird, rude, mental, empty headed, nieve (OK spelled wrong, hated that word anyways) I mean the list goes on but I gave myself this list, so once I got a different label, I took it. Sometimes we just need that extra reassurance that we are not all of those labels. For me, also, it was a way to tell my husband that yes, My life is disorganized, I have all of these things I do that are annoying as hell (hating certain noises, not being able to tolerate certain touches, difficulty standing up for myself, etc) but most of that is related to A.S. He needed it in writing FROM A PROFESSIONAL before he even started to listen to me. It probably wouldn't have helped me when I was little, they didn't know about A.S. anyway, so I personally don't care, but I am looking forward and I plan on making a big difference in my kids lives. I guess it is one of those " every person needs something different " things, and for Rick, I think he really needed this label, too. I don't even know him, but I know he got some negative labels slapped in his face. I imagine he might have given himself some just like I had?!?! perhaps???? > > But you are presuming that having a dx as a child would have changed your parents and how they raised you. IN fact, many people not dx'd with anything have grown up with perfectly dysfunctional families. It happens all the time. > > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I did not say he need that. I was asking if that is what he needed. I already got that he was doing it for " him " but wanted to know why, since it doesn't change anything and is not a reliable " test " for AS either. Roxanna Re: ( ) SPECT On 8/12/06, Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: > > > Dr. Phil wouldn't be my top endorser for mental health products. That said, why would you need a brain scan like this anyway? > > Roxanna That is a good question, Roxanna. I guess I can say that I am intrigued the possibility of having empirical proof of a definite abnormality in my brain. All my life I have been prone to tics, compulsions, and feelings which I simply could not understand. One therapist in my background was a hyper-Freudian who attributed it all to misplaced sexual energy, even when I made it perfectly clear there was no erotic component to what I was going through. To which she claimed it was therefore proof of her thesis, because I was denying it. Repression, ya know? Apart from that was a lifetime of constant shaming from my peers, my parents, my teachers, other therapists, and employers. I pretty much auto-diagnosed myself two years ago when I first heard about Asperger's on a TV news program; it struck a chord with me and I immediately started Googling (Google is one of my compulsions -- I am an absolute wizard at gathering data) everything I could about Asperger's. The online data blew me away, because for the first time I was reading my life in print, all sorts of idiosyncrasies that I thought no one else had, much less understood. The professional diagnosis was virtually an afterthought, with the doctors in question taken aback by how well-informed I was coming into the office. By coincidence, I was an acquaintance of Dawn Prince-, a nationally recognized woman with Asperger's, who had written a book about her experiences. It was Dawn who recommended to me the same doctors who had diagnosed her a few years earlier (we're the same age, BTW). Still, Asperger's diagnoses are largely based on an assessment of behavior (for children) or memories and admissions (for adults). I know beyond a doubt that I definitely do have High Functioning Autism, but the possibility of seeing something definite on a scan means something to me nonetheless as validation, in terms of empirical proof of there being something uniquely different about my brain. Rick . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I think you definitely should tell him he has a dx. If he has been in sped, etc. for all these years, it is likely he has a clue that some things are different for him. We told my older ds when he was 10 and my younger at age 9. Especially as the kids get older, you want them to work with you and you will need their cooperation. Roxanna Re: ( ) SPECT rick, would you mind giving me your opinion about what i should tell andrew regarding his autism? i've never made it a point to sit down and explain anything to him. i've been very on top of things, i feel. i sensed the very day that he came home from the hospital that something was " off " . he's been in some sort of therapy or special education since he was 17 months old. i guess i assume that he knows that he is different and i've never felt the need to make it a big deal. i don't want him to feel bad about it. if you were me, would you have a sit down talk with your autistic child regarding his/her differences? he's 9 years old btw. thank you for your help. bernadette On 8/13/06, Rick Segreda <rick.segreda@...> wrote: > > At ninety-one dollars it isn't expensive for me, but if it costs > ninety-one here and three-thousand over there, I wouldn't recommend a > passive acceptance of the ironically named " free market. " > > I am definitely convinced that if I had been (along with my father) > properly diagnosed with Asperger's Disorder thirty or forty years ago, > and was raised appropriately, that it would have made a night and day > difference in my life. By the latter of course, I am also refering to > the circumstances of a dysfunctional family, with alcohol, drug abuse, > and narcissism. > > When I was last in the States I spent some time with a family whose > youngest son has A.S. just like me. A thoroughly functional family, > full of stability and love, where people resolve their differences > like grown-ups rather than resorting to drama and recrimination. The > mother is fully involved in keeping up to date on all issues related > to A.S. and is always monitoring her son's progress, though the father > is equally involved in his children's well-being. It was both > inspiring and, for me, sad in terms of see what my childhood could > have been like but wasn't. > > Rick > > > On 8/13/06, Bernadette Waguespack <bwaguespack@...<bwaguespack%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > > > i often think about how lucky andrew is that was born when he was. if he > had > > been born 20 or 30 years ago, he surely would not have been as > successful > > as he has been. i'm sure he would have been written off as a behavior > > problem and his intelligence would have gone to waste. > > > > i wish you luck with your search for a definite diagnoses. i'm sorry > it's so > > expensive but thats how our world works. greed wins. > > > > bernadette > > > > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I doubt getting a scan from this guy is your answer. Why don't you go see a real neurologist and let them find out what the problem is? Roxanna ( ) Re: SPECT Foremost to answer the question of the possibilities of brain damage from my bipolar/autistic rages (head striking), a serious fall as a child onto the top of my head, and why I have this pain and some seizures that are pretty odd. The pain comes from a spot over my right eye about two inches up. If I cough or laugh, or sometimes just over stress, that spot hurts like blazes and my vision goes black. I feel really cold and cannot see or hear anything. Well, that's the basics anyway. > > > > > > I have Autism. I am forty-three. I was diagnosed two years ago. > Dr. > > > Phil recently endorsed SPECT brain scans for detecting Asperger's > > and > > > other neurological disorders. According to the Dr. > > Hipskind, > > > who promotes SPECT: " Instead of merely charting the brain's > > structure > > > and anatomy, like MRI and CT scans, high resolution SPECT (Single > > > Photon Emission Computed Tomography) graphically maps the brain's > > > activity and function, thus providing physicians, clinicians and > > their > > > patients with a detailed picture of the brain in action. " > > > > > > When I first heard of SPECT, I was eager for a scan, but the > price > > was > > > prohibitive: three thousand dollars. Now I live in South America, > > > where SPECT technology has arrived, and here it is only ninety- > one > > US > > > dollars. > > > > > > Bizarre, huh? It makes me wonder if Dr. Hipskind is engaging in > > some > > > truly horrendous price-gouging at the expense of desperate > parents. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I agree. My son has always known that he has AS. I was talking to one of his teachers right after he started high school, and he said that Josh came up to him the first day and said " I have Asperger's. Do you know what that is? " Josh then proceeded to tell him about it, and how it affects him personally. The teacher said it just blew him away that Josh did that, and that it helped him to have that personalized info when it came to dealing with him. The child is such a trip! Pat-Mom to Josh and Sara (18 yo and 13 yo, both AS) Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: I think you definitely should tell him he has a dx. If he has been in sped, etc. for all these years, it is likely he has a clue that some things are different for him. We told my older ds when he was 10 and my younger at age 9. Especially as the kids get older, you want them to work with you and you will need their cooperation. Roxanna Re: ( ) SPECT rick, would you mind giving me your opinion about what i should tell andrew regarding his autism? i've never made it a point to sit down and explain anything to him. i've been very on top of things, i feel. i sensed the very day that he came home from the hospital that something was " off " . he's been in some sort of therapy or special education since he was 17 months old. i guess i assume that he knows that he is different and i've never felt the need to make it a big deal. i don't want him to feel bad about it. if you were me, would you have a sit down talk with your autistic child regarding his/her differences? he's 9 years old btw. thank you for your help. bernadette On 8/13/06, Rick Segreda <rick.segreda@...> wrote: > > At ninety-one dollars it isn't expensive for me, but if it costs > ninety-one here and three-thousand over there, I wouldn't recommend a > passive acceptance of the ironically named " free market. " > > I am definitely convinced that if I had been (along with my father) > properly diagnosed with Asperger's Disorder thirty or forty years ago, > and was raised appropriately, that it would have made a night and day > difference in my life. By the latter of course, I am also refering to > the circumstances of a dysfunctional family, with alcohol, drug abuse, > and narcissism. > > When I was last in the States I spent some time with a family whose > youngest son has A.S. just like me. A thoroughly functional family, > full of stability and love, where people resolve their differences > like grown-ups rather than resorting to drama and recrimination. The > mother is fully involved in keeping up to date on all issues related > to A.S. and is always monitoring her son's progress, though the father > is equally involved in his children's well-being. It was both > inspiring and, for me, sad in terms of see what my childhood could > have been like but wasn't. > > Rick > > > On 8/13/06, Bernadette Waguespack <bwaguespack@...<bwaguespack%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > > > i often think about how lucky andrew is that was born when he was. if he > had > > been born 20 or 30 years ago, he surely would not have been as > successful > > as he has been. i'm sure he would have been written off as a behavior > > problem and his intelligence would have gone to waste. > > > > i wish you luck with your search for a definite diagnoses. i'm sorry > it's so > > expensive but thats how our world works. greed wins. > > > > bernadette > > > > > .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hey Roxanna, (getting it right a bunch, now:) You are definitely right, growing up in a dysfuncational family doesn't cause A.S., that is for sure. I do have to wonder about the whole perspective idea. I know when I was little I think I used to blame things on other people. My oldest will be playing game and if he looses, he will blame who ever is in the room (you talked and bugged me, etc) Really funny! I do wonder about that, I bet we do have a different perspective. I don't remember much from childhood, at least as far as feelings go. I don't remember much of anything. I find that odd, to say the least. > > And nobody is really living a perfect life either. I often think they are, lol, but things happen if you pay attention and you will see that they are not all so wonderful as they make it look to the outside world. I don't think growing up in the dyfunctional family makes one have a disorder like Asperger's. I think rather that having Asperger's would change one's perspective. The people I know with AS often see things differently and blame things on irrelevant objects or people. Like a friend's son was telling me all about this movie that I had seen and he said, " And the leaf stopped the wheel. " Well, the leaf did not cause the wheel to stop at all, the wheel got stuck in a rut and stopped. But he saw a leaf also and that is what he focused on and reasoned that it had caused the bike to stop. That, to me, is a totally different perspective and not even using common sense. And I would gather that his recollection of growing up would be distorted to a similar degree and he will remember things differently, if he does remember them. People with autism have memory deficits and I have been reading about how they can not remember personal events as well as events that do not affect them personally. I wonder how that equates when one is remembering childhood? I don't know. > > Roxanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Actually, you are right. I haven't heard anything about the test at all. But I would love to think that I could have a way to 'sort of' prove it. Oh well. If it was accurate that'd be cool, but I imagine it would be even more known if it were 100%. hmmm. you have me thinking about it now. I guess just my therapy and doctor was good enough for me. yeah, my husband is a Pain in the.... well you know. But we have worked things out and things have improved. WE almost were an ex to each other just last year. But I think for me the hardest part was realizing I will struggle socially so badly that I won't function very well. I was afraid of being alone. Now I don't feel so afraid any more, but things have been good. We shall see. Let't just say, he doesn't get away with his little comments and things like he used to, so he seems to be much more respectful these days Got that from Dr. Phil. You are treated the way you are allowed to be treated!! *smiles* lisa B > > You could say that about anyone though. We all grew up with ideas about ourselves. But the point is, this is a test that is not proven to dx anything. It only tells you what parts of the brain are working at various times. It does not say, " You have AS " or anything else. It could be done and be totally ambiguous with the findings. It could be done and show that you have a perfectly " normal " functioning brain. And then what? > > PS: If my dh didn't " believe " me and needed proof from a real doctor, he would probably not be my dh much longer. I think that's awful - thinking you are a liar? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 We've never had to put out for any of his 4 SPECT scans. We use a tad bit of valium to relax him just before the scan. Dr G doesn't quite agree with the way the Santa Imaging ctr does SPECTs. We looked into them (and Dr Uszler) before deciding on Brain Matters. I talked with him on the phone and he 'un-nerved' me with his tone. We've always had good luck with Carmen at Brain Matters (is she still there?) Also, I thought Dr Uszler was on the 'black list' for because of his support for HBOT? doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Hi Doris, Laurie at Dr. G's office gave me Dr. Uzler's card the last month. I asked Laurie if I can take her to Harbor UCLA and she said no. We liked her as well when we took our son there a few years ago. Our Insurance had no problems with UCLA, and we also have the Federal, I'm hoping they'll cover Santa Imaging and Therapy Associates, Dr. J. Uszler, M.D. Argie On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Doris and Steve wrote: > We've never had to put out for any of his 4 SPECT scans. > We use a tad bit of valium to relax him just before the scan. > > Dr G doesn't quite agree with the way the Santa Imaging ctr > does SPECTs. We looked into them (and Dr Uszler) before deciding > on Brain Matters. I talked with him on the phone and he 'un-nerved' me > with his tone. We've always had good luck with Carmen at Brain Matters > (is she still there?) > > Also, I thought Dr Uszler was on the 'black list' for because > of his > support for HBOT? > > doris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 We were referred to Dr. Uszler by Dr. G himself (the only referral he gave us). I'm surprised he would recommend them to us if he doesn't like they way he does SPECT scans. When Dr. G gave us the results last month, he seemed pleased with the information the scan provided. As a matter of fact, he and Dr. Uszler had a phone consultation regarding Noah's results. We like Dr. Uszler but I wasn't that thrilled with his receptionist. I know Dr. G doesn't like HBOT, but I'm not sure where Dr. Uszler stands. Where is Brain Matters? When I googled them, all I came up with was a place in Colorado. All the best, Robyn Doris and Steve <sjsmith@...> wrote: We've never had to put out for any of his 4 SPECT scans. We use a tad bit of valium to relax him just before the scan. Dr G doesn't quite agree with the way the Santa Imaging ctr does SPECTs. We looked into them (and Dr Uszler) before deciding on Brain Matters. I talked with him on the phone and he 'un-nerved' me with his tone. We've always had good luck with Carmen at Brain Matters (is she still there?) Also, I thought Dr Uszler was on the 'black list' for because of his support for HBOT? doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 If you have FepBlue (fepblue.org), they have Dr. Uszler listed as a preferred provider. We're in the process of resubmitting our paperwork because we needed a diagnosis code. Robyn Argie Olivo <golivo@...> wrote: Hi Doris, Laurie at Dr. G's office gave me Dr. Uzler's card the last month. I asked Laurie if I can take her to Harbor UCLA and she said no. We liked her as well when we took our son there a few years ago. Our Insurance had no problems with UCLA, and we also have the Federal, I'm hoping they'll cover Santa Imaging and Therapy Associates, Dr. J. Uszler, M.D. Argie On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Doris and Steve wrote: > We've never had to put out for any of his 4 SPECT scans. > We use a tad bit of valium to relax him just before the scan. > > Dr G doesn't quite agree with the way the Santa Imaging ctr > does SPECTs. We looked into them (and Dr Uszler) before deciding > on Brain Matters. I talked with him on the phone and he 'un-nerved' me > with his tone. We've always had good luck with Carmen at Brain Matters > (is she still there?) > > Also, I thought Dr Uszler was on the 'black list' for because > of his > support for HBOT? > > doris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 We have Blue Cross Blue Shield Federal. On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > If you have FepBlue (fepblue.org), they have Dr. Uszler listed as a > preferred provider. We're in the process of resubmitting our > paperwork because we needed a diagnosis code. > > Robyn > > Argie Olivo <golivo@...> wrote: > Hi Doris, > > Laurie at Dr. G's office gave me Dr. Uzler's card the last month. I > asked Laurie if I can take her to Harbor UCLA and she said no. We > liked her as well when we took our son there a few years ago. > Our Insurance had no problems with UCLA, and we also have the Federal, > I'm hoping they'll cover Santa Imaging and Therapy Associates, > Dr. J. Uszler, M.D. > > Argie > On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Doris and Steve wrote: > > > We've never had to put out for any of his 4 SPECT scans. > > We use a tad bit of valium to relax him just before the scan. > > > > Dr G doesn't quite agree with the way the Santa Imaging ctr > > does SPECTs. We looked into them (and Dr Uszler) before deciding > > on Brain Matters. I talked with him on the phone and he 'un- > nerved' me > > with his tone. We've always had good luck with Carmen at Brain > Matters > > (is she still there?) > > > > Also, I thought Dr Uszler was on the 'black list' for because > > of his > > support for HBOT? > > > > doris > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 had his first SPECT scan 1-yr after starting with Dr Goldberg. He was 5 yrs old. Also, he was only on Valtrex and an antifungal, no SSRIs Dr G wanted a SPECT of 2 yrs ago. This is when Brain Matters first opened its doors in CA (yes Torrance is the place. Near UCLA nuclear med). Brain Matters was new and very confused. They didn't take BCBS Fed insurance. SMITA and Dr Uszler did. Great! but then I spoke with Dr Uszler on the phone where he told me would have to be put under for the test because 'they put all kids under 10 under'. What? Carmen never had to with 's 3 other SPECTs. Then Dr Uszler accused Carmen of not doing the procedure correctly. If I didn't know that Carmen had been trained personally by Dr Mena, I would've been worried. Then I read later on that Dr Uszler was using HBOT .. Some other parents have had problems with SMITA ... but others have had good experiences. We just went with the 'known' and I didn't like Dr Uszler's tone. doris -maryland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hi Doris, can I asked how your son is doing now? socially, academically? thanks for your help, my son has been with Dr. G for 5 mons. on valtrex, ssri, and nizoral...but he is only 3 1/2 years old, I worry about using so many drugs, especially the ssri...any help is appreciated. Noel Doris and Steve <sjsmith@...> wrote: had his first SPECT scan 1-yr after starting with Dr Goldberg. He was 5 yrs old. Also, he was only on Valtrex and an antifungal, no SSRIs Dr G wanted a SPECT of 2 yrs ago. This is when Brain Matters first opened its doors in CA (yes Torrance is the place. Near UCLA nuclear med). Brain Matters was new and very confused. They didn't take BCBS Fed insurance. SMITA and Dr Uszler did. Great! but then I spoke with Dr Uszler on the phone where he told me would have to be put under for the test because 'they put all kids under 10 under'. What? Carmen never had to with 's 3 other SPECTs. Then Dr Uszler accused Carmen of not doing the procedure correctly. If I didn't know that Carmen had been trained personally by Dr Mena, I would've been worried. Then I read later on that Dr Uszler was using HBOT .. Some other parents have had problems with SMITA ... but others have had good experiences. We just went with the 'known' and I didn't like Dr Uszler's tone. doris -maryland Sincerely Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 That's understandable. I would've been the same way regarding anesthesia if my son hadn't required it. You shouldn't put out kids just because it makes your life easier. I read your post to Noel regarding . Kennedy Krieger, how great for him and for you. A good school can make all the difference, and a bad school can undo lots of years of hard work. Thanks again for the information. Robyn NOEL SCHNEIDER <schneid99@...> wrote: Hi Doris, can I asked how your son is doing now? socially, academically? thanks for your help, my son has been with Dr. G for 5 mons. on valtrex, ssri, and nizoral...but he is only 3 1/2 years old, I worry about using so many drugs, especially the ssri...any help is appreciated. Noel Doris and Steve <sjsmith@...> wrote: had his first SPECT scan 1-yr after starting with Dr Goldberg. He was 5 yrs old. Also, he was only on Valtrex and an antifungal, no SSRIs Dr G wanted a SPECT of 2 yrs ago. This is when Brain Matters first opened its doors in CA (yes Torrance is the place. Near UCLA nuclear med). Brain Matters was new and very confused. They didn't take BCBS Fed insurance. SMITA and Dr Uszler did. Great! but then I spoke with Dr Uszler on the phone where he told me would have to be put under for the test because 'they put all kids under 10 under'. What? Carmen never had to with 's 3 other SPECTs. Then Dr Uszler accused Carmen of not doing the procedure correctly. If I didn't know that Carmen had been trained personally by Dr Mena, I would've been worried. Then I read later on that Dr Uszler was using HBOT .. Some other parents have had problems with SMITA ... but others have had good experiences. We just went with the 'known' and I didn't like Dr Uszler's tone. doris -maryland Sincerely Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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