Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 Jane, thanks for your insight. I'll have to start watching my activity and sleep or lack of sleep more closely. It boggles my mind!!! There are so many things that affect my body now. Things that I took for granted before. thanks, Judi Re: Problems sleeping >From: SlvrMoon2@... > > ><<<< >Hi Diane, >I'm on Celexa. My depression and mood swings were unbelievable until I >started taking it. Like you I have started having sleeping problems. Last >night I was so tired after working at the dental office for a few hours Sat. >and Fri. so I went to bed at 10pm, thought by doing so that I could get up >nice and early and take my time getting ready for church. Not!!!! I woke >up at 1am wide awake but exhausted too. Got up and had a cup of decaff tea >watched late night TV(what a joke) went back to bed at 2:30am, still couldn't >sleep. got back up and finally went back to bed at 4:30. Needless to say I >didn't make it to church. I hadn't connected all this with Celexa. I slept >like a log on Friday night, come to think of it, I forgot to take >the Celexa. I'll forget to take it to night too. >>>>>> > >Hi, > >I just wanted to share my experiences with " no sleep " episodes. I have had >CFIDS for 20 years. Over that 20 years, I have learned to judge when I have >overdone it by how much sleep I get at night. It is sort of like a barometer >to me. > >I normally get 6-7 hours of sleep uninterrupted. When I suddenly start >having trouble sleeping or waking up at night, it is a " red flag " to me, that >something is off. Usually what that something is, is either I went out and >did more activity than I am used to doing, or something in my diet is causing >a problem, or both. > >If I were to go shopping, or work out in the yard, or even just go to a >social gathering....when I would go to bed that night...sure enough I would >wake up after a few hours and not be able to get back to sleep. The shorter >the initial amount of sleep the more extended the time it was going to take >to straighten it out. > >If I woke up after 5 hours...well that was not so bad. A couple of days of >being careful and resting would take care of it...usually the next night I >would be back on track. > If I woke up after 4 hours...bad...and I would have to watch it for the next >week or so. >IF I woke up after 3 hours....well, I really used poor judgment, and I was in >for 3 weeks to a month of babying myself, and making my diet absolutely >perfect. >If I woke up after 2 hours....Then I was REALLY STUPID....and now I was in >for a major relapse. 3 months maybe of reactivated symptoms, struggling to >get the sleep back to normal...etc...etc. > >When my sleep would start to return to normal, I knew I was getting better, >and when it was actually back to 6-7 hrs a night ...I knew I was back on >track again. > >:-) >Jane > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >HOW YA FEELIN'? Find out with your free Personal Health Report. > It's easy, it's fun, it's confidential and it's free. > /ad/ivillage1 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 <<<< Hi Diane, I'm on Celexa. My depression and mood swings were unbelievable until I started taking it. Like you I have started having sleeping problems. Last night I was so tired after working at the dental office for a few hours Sat. and Fri. so I went to bed at 10pm, thought by doing so that I could get up nice and early and take my time getting ready for church. Not!!!! I woke up at 1am wide awake but exhausted too. Got up and had a cup of decaff tea watched late night TV(what a joke) went back to bed at 2:30am, still couldn't sleep. got back up and finally went back to bed at 4:30. Needless to say I didn't make it to church. I hadn't connected all this with Celexa. I slept like a log on Friday night, come to think of it, I forgot to take the Celexa. I'll forget to take it to night too. >>>>> Hi, I just wanted to share my experiences with " no sleep " episodes. I have had CFIDS for 20 years. Over that 20 years, I have learned to judge when I have overdone it by how much sleep I get at night. It is sort of like a barometer to me. I normally get 6-7 hours of sleep uninterrupted. When I suddenly start having trouble sleeping or waking up at night, it is a " red flag " to me, that something is off. Usually what that something is, is either I went out and did more activity than I am used to doing, or something in my diet is causing a problem, or both. If I were to go shopping, or work out in the yard, or even just go to a social gathering....when I would go to bed that night...sure enough I would wake up after a few hours and not be able to get back to sleep. The shorter the initial amount of sleep the more extended the time it was going to take to straighten it out. If I woke up after 5 hours...well that was not so bad. A couple of days of being careful and resting would take care of it...usually the next night I would be back on track. If I woke up after 4 hours...bad...and I would have to watch it for the next week or so. IF I woke up after 3 hours....well, I really used poor judgment, and I was in for 3 weeks to a month of babying myself, and making my diet absolutely perfect. If I woke up after 2 hours....Then I was REALLY STUPID....and now I was in for a major relapse. 3 months maybe of reactivated symptoms, struggling to get the sleep back to normal...etc...etc. When my sleep would start to return to normal, I knew I was getting better, and when it was actually back to 6-7 hrs a night ...I knew I was back on track again. :-) Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 1999 Report Share Posted April 15, 1999 Hi Jane: I have noticed subtle things like you have that change my sleep patterns. I am starting a journal today (after reading your post) just to find out what really does help and what doesn't, especially with the sleep (or lack thereof). I sounds like you have it down pretty good. I have been threatening to do a journal for some time now, but thought I never had the time. I really need to get started. You really have a good handle on it. Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 If you are having problems sleeping, check this out. It is long but I believe a worthy read. Anne VA USA By Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D. Health advisor, yeastconnection.com Yeast: The Missing Link? There are numerous theories about the causes of these two debilitating illnesses, ranging from viral infections, neurotransmitter imbalances, immune system failure, intestinal bacterial and yeast overgrowth. One way of looking at chronic candidiasis, CFIDS and fibromyalgia is from an immunological point of view: CFIDS is defined as an immune disorder The symptoms of fibromyalgia indicate widespread immune involvement Candidia albicans releases dozens of toxic waste products that trigger immune reactions throughout the body We also know that in the most severe immune disorder we know--acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS)--100 percent of patients have candida overgrowth and candidiasis symptoms. I've talked and written about the downward spiral into candidiasis, ! chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia for decades. Here's how the story goes beginning chronologically at birth and medically leading to candidiasis, CFIDS and fibromyalgia: The Baby Years Diaper rash, caused by candida, is treated with cortisone creams that encourage the growth of more candida Childhood ear infections can begin at birth as yeast infections. The infant picks them up from Mom passing through her candida-overgrown birth canal. Rounds of useless antibiotics are given for undiagnosed fungal infection resulting in oral thrush (candida in the mouth) Ear infections become chronic and children are given multiple courses of antibiotics, leading to intestinal candida, irritable bowel and diarrhea. Colic develops due to antibiotics Inability to digest milk due to an irritated bowel leads to frequent changes of formula and further digestive disturbances Ear in! fections swell the adenoids and tonsils. Surgery is recommended. Anesthetics used in surgery add another toxin to the mix Symptoms still occur and more surgery is recommended to place tubes in the ears Gas and bloating and eczema result from a hard-to-digest soy formula Eczema is suppressed with cortisone creams (homeopaths say this practice leads to asthma) Childhood Allergies to foods especially sugar, yeast, wheat and dairy arise from leaky gut syndrome caused by Candida albicans invading intestinal tissue Asthma is treated with medications including cortisone inhalers Multiple colds and flus are treated with many courses of antibiotics and annual flu vaccines. The mercury in vaccines acts as an antibiotic in the gut and leads to more candida overgrowth. Mercury also causes widespread immune impairment and toxicity Craving for sweets triggered by c! andida overgrowth causes and aggravates hyperactive behavior in children Allergic reactions are treated with allergy shots, antihistamines and cortisone sprays Children receive toxic mercury amalgam fillings, with absorption of mercury leading to more candida overgrowth and toxicity Young Adulthood In young women, birth control pills (BCPs) cause chronic vaginal yeast infections that are often treated with antibiotic creams creating more candida Many adolescents take long-term oral antibiotics for acne caused by hormonal imbalance and poor diet Many teens and young adults, especially in the malnourished, beer-drinking college years, develop mononucleosis. Up to 20 percent never feel quite as healthy again and may go on to develop CFIDS Adulthood Bladder in & shy;fections, common after intercourse, are treated with antibiotics, which cause yeast infectio! ns Sexually transmitted diseases (STD) and high dose antibiotic treatment are common in young people because fewer men use condoms due to the BCPs Infertility is increasing and the treatments include powerful fertility drugs that increase candida After childbirth, chronic sleep deprivation and poor diet is common and is a major stress on the immune system unable to cope with over growth of candida Intestinal infections from traveling are usually treated with antibiotics Hospitalization for infections or surgery usually warrants intravenous antibiotics and a host of other drugs Major colds and flus can lead to bronchitis and pneumonia, which are treated with strong antibiotics Dysmenorrhea, irregular periods, infertility and worsening premenstrual symptoms occur due to a build-up of toxins and lack of nutrients. Long term BCPs are recommended for women with! these symptoms Depression, anxiety, panic attacks and palpitations are treated with anti-depressants creating more drug toxicity in the body Infection with mononucleosis in college, the build up of infections, and thousands of chemicals in our air, food, and water accumulate in a toxic, inflammatory overload resulting in symptoms of CFIDS and fibromyalgia. They are treated symptomatically with anti-inflammatory drugs, sleeping pills, and anti-depressants, which often make the symptoms worse Environmental allergies develop in people with CFIDS and fibromyalgia. They experience extreme sensitivities to inhalants, especially perfumes, colognes, household products, pesticides and molds, which are treated with cortisone Yes, it's a nightmare scenario. It may seem extreme, but you have only to look around you, talk to a neighbor or look at your own health history to see the pattern. Solutions If you have chronic ! fatigue, fibromyalgia, headaches, muscle aches, memory loss, digestive disorders and other symptoms listed above, you may benefit from a comprehensive treatment program that includes the following five-step approach: 1. Diet and exercise Eat a diet rich in meats, fish, chicken and eggs (free range and organic), seeds and nuts, vegetables and oils while avoiding sugars, grains, and fermented products like vinegars and preserved meats. This diet restricts the amount of fuel available to the yeast in your intestines. A grocery list of foods to get you started is available at our Web site. Once you've started on the diet, begin to exercise, even if for only five minutes a day, especially for people with CFIDS. You'll also find help with an exercise program at our site. 2. Supplements Probiotics: These supplements contain friendly bacteria that help you keep a natural, healthy balance of microorganisms in your digestive tract. There are many different! forms and brands of probiotics available in foods and pills and capsules. However, to be effective, they need to be able to bypass harsh stomach acid and deliver at least 1 billion live organisms to the intestines. Digestive Enzymes: These supplements help break down foods so that incompletely digested food molecules don't enter the intestines and become absorbed, which causes food allergies and sensitivities. Most good products contain several enzymes to promote optimal digestion. Herbs and Nutrients: These elements inhibit the growth of candida albicans. Before resorting to prescription antifungal medications and their possible side effects, a variety of herbs and nutrients can help support a healthy balance of intestinal bacteria, reining in yeast growth. Among the nutrients that work together to stop candida overgrowth are caprylic acid, pau d'Arco, oregano oil, black walnut, grapefruit seed extract, garlic, beta carotene and biotin. Vitamins and minerals! : Taking a good quality multivitamin and mineral supplement daily helps supply your body with the nutrients it needs to help you regain your health. A good calcium-magnesium-vitamin D supplement is also essential to optimal health, especially for women. Visit our site for recommendations on each of these supplement groups. 3. Avoid exposure to chemicals Chemical sensitivities and allergic reactions are very common in people with yeast overgrowth. Avoid exposure to paints, pesticides, herbicides, household cleaners, perfumes and scents. 4. Address emotional and psychological issues This step also profoundly impacts your ability to cope and helps balance the chemistry of your body and brain. Visit our site for advice. 5. Work with a kind and caring health professional Spend some time interviewing doctors and finding one willing to work with you. You'll find links at our site to help you in this search. Dr. Crook wrote, "I fee! l that CFIDS and fibromyalgia are often yeast-related. People with these disorders seem to develop them because their immune systems are weakened (by yeast overgrowth), viruses are activated, yeasts multiply, food and chemical allergies become activated, and nutritional deficiencies develop." Dr. Crook was careful to note that he didn't think that yeast overgrowth was the primary cause of CFIDS and fibromyalgia. I fully concur, yet based on Dr. Crook's experience and my own, following a diet free of sugar and processed and refined foods plus the correct supplementation, can be exceedingly successful in helping people suffering from these conditions. Extensive resources on yeast overgrowth, related conditions and ways of treating them are available at our site. Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D., is health advisor to Woman's Health Connection at www.yeastconnection.com and is featured on the website's "Ask A Pro" page. Her latest books are The Miracle of Magnesium an! d Natural Prescriptions for Common Ailments. << Previous[ Part I, Part II ] --------------------------------- Related Articles: PMS and The Yeast Connection Depression: Is Yeast a Missing Link? Allergies: Is Yeast a Missing Link? Part I Fibromyalgia Pain is Real -- What You Can Do to Relieve It Diet Helps Fibromyalgia Physicians' Protocol For Using Antibiotics in Rheumatic Disease --------------------------------- References Dismukes, W. E., J. S. Wade, J. Y. Lee, B. K. Dockery, and J. D. Hain. 1990. A randomized, double-blind trial of Nystatin therapy for the candidiasis hypersensitivity syndrome. N. Engl. J. Med. 323:1717-1725. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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