Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 On 9/16/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: > On 9/16/05, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > > > Zoiks! FWIW, my mom swears by Manuka honey, though I don't know how much > > honey she's eating nowadays. I don't have a very high opinion of Really > > Raw (it ferments stuff easily whereas YS Organic doesn't at all) but I've > > never tried Manuka myself as I just don't use that much honey. > > At least one of those 5 or 6 abstracts I sent to the list about honey > being anti-candida mentioned that Manuka ( " manuka " ? I don't think > it's sold exclusively) had considerably higher activity. But there is a difference. The medicinal manuka is called " active manuka " and the non-medicinal is just called manuka. I posted a review about it during the honey thread. > What's YS? Usually I use RR or Honey Gardens. I don't know about Honey Gardens but I would avoid RR and go with YS Organics if you want to buy something produced stateside. Actually stateside Volcanic is the best. -- Pleasure is a nutrient - Mati Senerchia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 On 9/16/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: > On 9/16/05, implode7@... <implode7@...> wrote: > > > Whole Foods charges ripoff prices for lots of things. I believe that those > > are the same size bottles that I picked up at Rainbow Grocery here in SF for > > about $10 less a bottle. > > Wow. Do you know what brand? Mine is " The Wild Bee " and it has some > symbol on it that is a circle that says " Active 12+ " which appears to > be some sort of certification or something but I have no idea what it > means. That denotes the antibacterial activity of the honey, to keep people from confusing it with ordinary manuka. I think 12 is good but I know they go higher. Manuka as Medicine http://bio.waikato.ac.nz/pdfs/honeyresearch/bioactives.pdf -- Pleasure is a nutrient - Mati Senerchia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 On 9/16/05, implode7@... <implode7@...> wrote: > Whole Foods charges ripoff prices for lots of things. I believe that those > are the same size bottles that I picked up at Rainbow Grocery here in SF for > about $10 less a bottle. " Wow. Do you know what brand? Mine is " The Wild Bee " and it has some symbol on it that is a circle that says " Active 12+ " which appears to be some sort of certification or something but I have no idea what it means. " hmmm - I didn't know there were multiple brands. This is omvita or something like that. 'Active Manuka Honey'. Maybe yours is a more expensive variety. " I've heard " Whole Paycheck " is a ripoff before, but I guess it depends on location. Out here, it's the cheapest deal on basically anything that is organic or aimed at a " natural " or " alternative health " niche market. Not because they're inexpensive, but because all of the smaller fish have such outrageously higher prices. At least as far as I've seen, and barring buying direct from farmers. " Well, back when I used to be into supplements, I was absolutely shocked at some of their prices. On some stuff it isn't that bad. But I really don't like the place and I very rarely go there anymore (of course, I have other choices here). What really pissed me off is that they sell farmed salmon. There is this group that sometimes shows up at the farmer's market who are into promoting live salmon, and they told me that they spoke to Whole Foods about their farmed salmon and about how it wasn't as good for the environment or nutritionally as they claim, but they weren't interested. They seemed credible to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 - >I don't know about Honey Gardens but I would avoid RR and go with YS >Organics if you want to buy something produced stateside. Actually >stateside Volcanic is the best. Even though it's white? Granted, I know next to nothing about what makes honey nutritious or not, but I'd expect a white honey would be pretty low in non-sugar solids even as honey goes. Not so? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I have only seen Manuka Honey in plastic jars...does this concern anyone? It is a #1 which is suppose to be less toxic than other plastics. It seems incongruent...all that goodness wrapped in plastic. On 9/17/05, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > > Lana- > > >I know that volcanic soil is some of the most fertile and nutritious > >soil out there so why wouldn't honey from the flowers that grow in > >that soil be exceptionally healthy? > > It would make sense, certainly. I'm just wondering about the white color. > > > > > - > > > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: > -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol > <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Your one, Gene, would be Comvita, from New Zealand. http://www.comvita.com/manuka-honey.html Price varies widely depending if it is the active one or not. $US25 is about they charge direct for the highest activity ones. Someone mentioned UMF as a categorisation - seems that only NZ honey can use that label. Deb On 9/17/05, Gene Schwartz <implode7@...> wrote: > > > On 9/16/05, implode7@... <implode7@...> wrote: > > hmmm - I didn't know there were multiple brands. This is omvita or something > like that. 'Active Manuka Honey'. Maybe yours is a more expensive variety. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 On 9/16/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: > On 9/16/05, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote: > > > Schwing!! (slang for " you got that right! " LOL!) > > Really? Is that old slang or new slang? Regional? > > Chris Despite Wayne and Garth, its old slang that was around many years ago. I think it was originally regional but has since become national/international. Many meanings other than the one I mentioned above. It has been used for when you really like something (a hot car, food, etc.), a hot woman, scoring in a debate point (sort of like " gotcha " ), big penis (kidding) , etc. -- Pleasure is a nutrient - Mati Senerchia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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