Re: Getting a Rife Machine

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I have several " Rife " devices, including a Pro Wave Model 101, GB4000,

IR/BPT-500, 8CE EM+, and an F125 generator. The only review I have

written so far is on the Model 101 so I will post it below. I would

strongly advise against the IR/BPT-500 since I have had mine almost a

year now and have not been able to really use or test it as it has

never run right. I have spent over $400 in returning it 4 times for

repairs. It is now back in Florida being repaired for the last time

since the year warranty expires soon. If the repair works this time

then I will change my opinion but I will wait until I write my final

review. Had I known better I would have gotten the PERL instead. My

favorite so far is the 8CE EM+ from Bruce Stenulson. I have used it

successfully for several problems and am treating my wife's breast

cancer with it. There are pro's and con's for all my devices (except

for the IR/BPT-500) but if I could only have one it would be the 8CE

EM+. Here is my review of the Pro Wave Model 101 which I wrote over a

year ago:

Since I have found very little info on the ProWave Model 101, I am

taking the time to add my input since I purchased one anyway. I am

not connected in any way to a seller of the device. I purchased my

unit after meeting the owner of the company which manufactures the

Model 101 while on a Caribbean cruise this past summer.

The " Model 101 Energy System " came with the following contents: (1)

Pro Wave Model 101 cordless instrument, (1) battery charger/power

supply cord, (2) stainless steel hand cylinder electrodes, (2) 72 "

connecting wires for hand electrodes, (2) stainless steel disk

electrodes with 72 " wires attached, (1) Tac Gel conductive adhesive,

(2) wrist band stainless steel electrodes with 72 " wires attached,

(1) white aloe conductive lotion, (8) flexible self adhesive

conductive electrodes (TENS type), (2) 72 " wires with pin plug and

1/8th " banana plug for flexible conductive electrodes, (1) operating

manual, and (1) " Get Started Today " instruction video. All of this

came with a very nice soft leather carry bag which nicely carries all

of the pieces in various compartments and pockets.

The operating manual is very well written and makes using the device

so very simple. If that wasn't enough, the video shows how to do

everything.

The Model 101 comes with a built in rechargeable NiMH battery that

enables the unit to be run for about 6 hours without being plugged

into to a socket. Output is .1 to 28 volts. Frequency range is

0.42Hz to 200KHz, channel range from .5Hz to 21,275Hz (this is from

the manual, don't ask me to explain).

Programs: There are 181 individual frequency " channels " in memory

from the manufacturer. There are 325 programs available, each

capable of storing 64 individual channels. There are 10 user

accessible programs capable of storing 32 individual channels. You

cannot enter any other frequencies that are not already programmed

in. This is the major drawback of the device, in my opinion.

One nice feature is a gentle " ramp up " (soft start) which is

basically 3 seconds at the start of each channel to eliminate the

shock sensation. This is really nice especially at the lower

frequencies that tend to jolt you a little as they change.

Another nice feature is something they call " bio-impedance " matching

that supposedly matches your skin resistance to the output of the

device to deliver a strong and effective signal that is comfortable

as well. There are lights on the console that let you know if

electrode contact is poor, good, or non-existent.

There is a signal that beeps which anything happens (frequency

changes, program ends, etc). This beep can be silenced or raised if

desired.

The display shows the program running, total minutes remaining,

channel number (not the frequency), time remaining on the channel,

energy level (% of maximum output), and the name of the program which

is running.

This device is about as user friendly as it can get. It is designed

so that even if you lost the manual, you could use the device by

simply scrolling forwards or backwards through the programs and

pressing a couple of buttons. The " quick start menu " and " advanced

set up " allow anyone to start and run a program without being a

rocket scientist or knowing anything about frequency or all the other

confusing Rife nomenclature.

So far, I have found the pre-installed programs for the 325

conditions, pretty close to the CAFL. There have been a few that I

wanted to change, so I simply programmed my own by simply adding the

frequencies to those already in the device.

I have been very impressed with the quality of the materials and the

construction of this device. I think the console and the electrodes

could really take a beating and still function (but don't test that

fact!) Since I met the owner of the company, I was able to use my

Internet sleuthing skills and learned that his company has a solid

background in the medical electronics field. Obviously, this device

is a " silent " part of their business due to obvious reasons (FDA,

pharmaceutical companies, etc). No, I will not reveal any more info

about the company as I want the manufacture of this device to

continue so that as many people as possible can benefit from this

technology.

I would highly recommend this device to anyone who wants a simple to

use pad device. My wife and I have both used this to stop the flu

after one day. Other than that, we have been healthy and haven't had

to test it further. I will admit, that after I bought the device, I

researched pad devices a lot further and learned what features I,

personally, would prefer in a pad device. I am a little technically

savvy and am comfortable around computers so I would prefer a deice

which would allow me to program a lot more frequencies than the Model

101 has pre-installed. I would also prefer to do a few more things

like run more than one frequency at a time, sweep, etc. For these

reasons I would prefer a GB-4000. Now, if you could combine the

features of the Model 101 with the GB-4000, you would have, in my

opinion, the best pad device. Even though the GB-4000 does not

appear to be too really difficult to learn how to use, I think a lot

of people would prefer the ease, simplicity and effectiveness of the

Model 101. I can envision a lot of people who would simply prefer to

scroll through a list of programs, (# 379- Shingles, for example),

press two buttons, sit back and be " Rifed " . I know my wife would

prefer the Model 101 but perhaps I will save my money and get myself

a GB-4000 to keep at the office.

Of course my dream Rife machine is a Plasma device, but I am waiting

to see the results of my wife's mamogram. Then, I will determine if

the expense of one of the two Plasma devices I am considering is

warranted.

Finally, the ProWave Model 101 is expensive, around $2,400, but a lot

of similar devices are in the same price range. Yes, I know a signal

generator such as the F125 is a lot less expensive, but many people

who want to make use of Rife/Crane pad technology want something that

is easy to use. Many are intimidated by having to program, either

manually by punching in frequencies, or by computer download. There

is definitely a niche for the Model 101. To get one, do a Google

search.

Hope this helps

Mike

- In Rife , " cookpollybd " wrote:

>

> I am looking into getting a rife machine. I have info on the Pro

Wave

> model 101 Energy System, and have used Google to search for others.

> The pricing is so different. I was curious which models you have

and

> which you find of better quality. Also, any I should avoid.

>

> Thanks in advance for your help.

>

> Polly

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I'm new to the list trying to learn more about Rife machines and

particularly the one I have access to through a family member who had

connections in the alternative health field some years back. She bought it

second hand. The Rife is a wright laboratories Rife machine B-27. Does anyone

know about this machine? Is it safe? Built well? Thanks so much, Sal

[Guest guest]

Polly, If I were buying a machine:

Only pad or contact machine I would even consider is the GB4000 with

amplifier. Very wide range, programmable, good machine.

Only plasma Bare-Rife machine would be the PERL from Resonant Light in

Canada. Expensive, but sometimes you DO get what you pay for.

Many vendors with EMEM machines, Mike T, RifeLabs, Bruce S, Dr Loyd..

many vendors. $700 to $2500 ?? All depends on what's used for the

frequency generator.

And, there is the new P3 machine from Jimmie Holman, looks impressive

according to what Jimmie says about the clinical studies in Europe.

Expensive.

Dave

http://www.dfe.net

(We don't sell any of these..)

cookpollybd wrote:

> I am looking into getting a rife machine. I have info on the Pro Wave

> model 101 Energy System, and have used Google to search for others.

> The pricing is so different. I was curious which models you have and

> which you find of better quality. Also, any I should avoid.

>

> Thanks in advance for your help.

>

> Polly

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have several " Rife " devices, including a Pro Wave Model 101,

GB4000,

> IR/BPT-500, 8CE EM+, and an F125 generator. >

>

Mike, Thanks for the information. I googled the GB 4000 and the 8CE

EM+, that one looks scary. I am not very technical, and so I think

that eliminates the 8CE EM+ for me.

The GB4000 looks similar to the Pro Wave in ease of use. I found one

offered by EMR Labs, GB4000 " Blue " $1795, optional wrist bands and

poly pads for additional $99 (would I need these?) and SR-4 " BLUE " 30

MHz 10-Watt Amplifier ($595 would I need that?) When you add these

all up it comes to the same price as the Pro Wave.

Can you go into a little more detail, did you feel that the GB 4000

is a better machine just not as easy to use as the Pro Wave? For a

newbie are there programs in it for say arthritis, diverticulitis,

cancer... or do you have to program them in (web site says 871 unique

frequency channels).

I think I am digging myself deeper in confusion.

Polly

[Guest guest]

If i may add my two cents ...if you are not an apartment dweller you may want to

consider a radiant device rather than a contact

device. It has been stated that contact devices may offer less effectiveness

than radiant due to the paths of resistance. There are

a couple of good device though that offer both in their setup and that would be

a good deal as both have their place but if money is

a problem and you can only choose one....I would suggest radiant. Many times you

can use the freq generator in radiant device in the

contact mode anyway so you'll still be killing two birds with one stone ( no pun

intended) good luck in your choices.

medusa

Re: Getting a Rife Machine

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> I think I am digging myself deeper in confusion.

>

> Polly

>

[Guest guest]

Dave,

Do you have any more information on the P3?

Gail

Dave Felt wrote:

And, there is the new P3 machine from Jimmie Holman, looks impressive

according to what Jimmie says about the clinical studies in Europe.

Expensive.

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[Guest guest]

See www.rifevideos.com and read articles. Rife switched to modified function

generators for a reason. Power is increased with an amplifier on a GB2000. Used

machines are often sold on EBAY at a good discount.

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> I think I am digging myself deeper in confusion.

>

> Polly

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Gail..

The P3 is the commercial version of Jimmie's P3Pro, and I believe that

the P3Pro is the machine which has been doing so very well in clinical

testing in Europe. Eventually maybe they'll give us actual results - but

I recall that nobody, virtually nobody, gives out actual data, even some

who say it's all available but somehow is never really there. (Mike T

seems to be the only one who sometimes gives out actual experimental

results with his machines.)

Website: http://www.pulsedtech.com/

The P3 must be used with Jimmie's PFG generator, and connected to a

Windows computer to set frequencies. It comes out to an expensive

package, but reports I hear is that it works very well indeed. Be aware

that Jimmie's research seems to be focussing on higher frequencies more

than the standard CAFL set (the PFG does those too..) And, I'm hearing

from others that higher frequencies seem to work better (as example 10x

the CAFL frequencies as an experiment..) and this makes lots of sense to me.

I don't have pricing, but I believe the P3 and PFG package less a

computer (laptops work fine, must either have a parallel port or a

pcmcia to parallel adapter - but I'll bet a USB version will be out

soon) comes out to $5000 and possibly closer to ($6000 ?) Support is

also excellent, from what I hear.. No more waiting for months to get a

machine repaired.

Packaging - don't really care for the P3 packaging, but as a builder,

packaging has been the greatest single problem I've had in building

instruments of all kinds over the years. Wish it were in my price range!!

Dave

(No financial connections to vendors mentioned...)

> Dave,

>

> Do you have any more information on the P3?

>

> Gail

>

> Dave Felt wrote:

> And, there is the new P3 machine from Jimmie Holman, looks impressive

> according to what Jimmie says about the clinical studies in Europe.

> Expensive.

>

[Guest guest]

Dave,

Thank you for the information and link. It looks completely different from the

PPET, which at one time I had considered purchasing. I ultimately decided on a

different setup though, because I wanted to use the A/R F165, which could not be

used with that system.

Many of the programs I use are in the higher frequency ranges, and I have found

them to be extremely effective if you have the right frequency, or combination

of frequencies. Same with the lower ranges.

Cost is higher than some units, but equal to others, so would be a good option

to consider for those purchasing in that price range. Considering the source,

I'm sure it is a nice setup.

Gail

Dave Felt wrote: Hi, Gail..

The P3 is the commercial version of Jimmie's P3Pro, and I believe that

the P3Pro is the machine which has been doing so very well in clinical

testing in Europe. Eventually maybe they'll give us actual results - but

I recall that nobody, virtually nobody, gives out actual data, even some

who say it's all available but somehow is never really there. (Mike T

seems to be the only one who sometimes gives out actual experimental

results with his machines.)

Website: http://www.pulsedtech.com/

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