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, Try to be easy on yourself we have all done something that we have

regretted a time or two. You son will probably not think of it again except for

you eating from the trash. LOL I am come to realize that the occasional

mistake in judgment is not something that a child is going to hold against a

loving parent.

As for diet infractions....my daughter was given 1 small cupcake at school

with no icing and she became a wild child. I thought that I would lose my mind

and then it hit me that she was entering into " die off " from yeast.

It has not been an easy week but I can say that we have survived the first

week of die off. My beautiful little girl has pox like sores where the toxins

are coming out and I was worried about her eating 1 mini cupcake. In the big

scheme of things it is not a big deal but at the moment it is the end of the

world. LOL

So for those of you who have been there and done that how long does die off

from yeast last? Sheri

<thecolemans4@...> wrote:

My son had had powdered donuts at school once and went

crazy over them, and has a hard time with the fact

that he doesn't get to have the kinds of treats other

kids get. But one day after he had been a very

patient little angel on a long hard day of errands,

when he saw some powdered donuts and asked sweetly for

them, I caved and got some. He was allowed 3 that

day, and a few days later (today), another 3. His

brother had 3, and I had 2. I had packed them as a

potential reward since I had 2 doctors appts and 2

other errands - not a fun day for 2 bored kids. But

again, he had been as good as can be. This is a very

rare treat, and he knew it was special and that it

wouldn't happen often (but it helps him to cope w/all

the times he can't get treats just knowing once in a

while he can).

Anyway, we get home, and he disappeared upstairs a

moment, and came back handing me a donut. He had

gotten into the cabinet and gotten some out w/out

permission, and I just about freaked. The idea of him

sneaking out food and pigging out on a no-no seems

like something that must be stopped and stopped right

then. I stormed upstairs, threw the rest of the

donuts in the garbage, and was almost yelling when I

told him to never get anything out of the cabinets

without my permission. I was furious. Then I

demanded to know how many he had eaten, and he said

(as he started crying) " Mommy, I didn't eat any! I

just wanted you to have three like we did. "

My heart just broke. His expression was so hurt. I

just showed him how sorry and shocked I was, how sweet

I thought it was, admitted to what I had assumed (and

how wrong since he was trying to be so thoughtful),

and told him how sorry I was-how I was scared because

too many sweets can make him sick, but that he was

such a good boy and really knew how to wait for those

special treats. Then I pulled one out of the garbage

and ate it for him, and he thought that was pretty

hysterical.lol. Relieved the stress of the moment.

But I feel like such a cod now! I can't get that

exHi all-

You ever do something in a mini-tantrum and then find

out how wrong you were... then just feel like the

meanest mom? And feel driven to tell on yourself too?pression out of my mind. :(

(Now I'm gonna take

them to the pool and try to assuage my guilt by giving

them a wonderful time.) Boy does fear trigger an

over-reaction.

Oh well...

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, you have lived with this disease your whole life. You only

want what is best for your child. Your son just knowing you can

admit you made a mistake is gold. He will forgive you long before

you will forgive yourself! Its OK to freak out and say you're sorry.

-

-- In , <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

>

> Hi all-

> You ever do something in a mini-tantrum and then find

> out how wrong you were... then just feel like the

> meanest mom? And feel driven to tell on yourself too?

>

> My son had had powdered donuts at school once and went

> crazy over them, and has a hard time with the fact

> that he doesn't get to have the kinds of treats other

> kids get. But one day after he had been a very

> patient little angel on a long hard day of errands,

> when he saw some powdered donuts and asked sweetly for

> them, I caved and got some. He was allowed 3 that

> day, and a few days later (today), another 3. His

> brother had 3, and I had 2. I had packed them as a

> potential reward since I had 2 doctors appts and 2

> other errands - not a fun day for 2 bored kids. But

> again, he had been as good as can be. This is a very

> rare treat, and he knew it was special and that it

> wouldn't happen often (but it helps him to cope w/all

> the times he can't get treats just knowing once in a

> while he can).

>

> Anyway, we get home, and he disappeared upstairs a

> moment, and came back handing me a donut. He had

> gotten into the cabinet and gotten some out w/out

> permission, and I just about freaked. The idea of him

> sneaking out food and pigging out on a no-no seems

> like something that must be stopped and stopped right

> then. I stormed upstairs, threw the rest of the

> donuts in the garbage, and was almost yelling when I

> told him to never get anything out of the cabinets

> without my permission. I was furious. Then I

> demanded to know how many he had eaten, and he said

> (as he started crying) " Mommy, I didn't eat any! I

> just wanted you to have three like we did. "

>

> My heart just broke. His expression was so hurt. I

> just showed him how sorry and shocked I was, how sweet

> I thought it was, admitted to what I had assumed (and

> how wrong since he was trying to be so thoughtful),

> and told him how sorry I was-how I was scared because

> too many sweets can make him sick, but that he was

> such a good boy and really knew how to wait for those

> special treats. Then I pulled one out of the garbage

> and ate it for him, and he thought that was pretty

> hysterical.lol. Relieved the stress of the moment.

>

> But I feel like such a cod now! I can't get that

> expression out of my mind. :( (Now I'm gonna take

> them to the pool and try to assuage my guilt by giving

> them a wonderful time.) Boy does fear trigger an

> over-reaction.

>

> Oh well...

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Don't be too hard on yourself, . Ours kids

learn that we are not perfect, and that we make

mistakes. It is very impt. when we do something like

this, to apologize--just like they need to apologize

to us when they hurt our feelings. And this is what

you did. Keeping humor throughout this whole process

really helps a lot, too. You are a very good and

loving mother, who also has to deal with health issues

of her own and those of her children. Not a very easy

task. You do a great job, and don't forget it. Don't

beat yourself up for one mistake. You will learn from

it, too! That is what is so impt. about mistakes, we

learn from them, and we go on. Thank you for sharing

your experience. We all learn from each others'

experiences on line, also. Barb

--- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> Hi all-

> You ever do something in a mini-tantrum and then

> find

> out how wrong you were... then just feel like the

> meanest mom? And feel driven to tell on yourself

> too?

>

> My son had had powdered donuts at school once and

> went

> crazy over them, and has a hard time with the fact

> that he doesn't get to have the kinds of treats

> other

> kids get. But one day after he had been a very

> patient little angel on a long hard day of errands,

> when he saw some powdered donuts and asked sweetly

> for

> them, I caved and got some. He was allowed 3 that

> day, and a few days later (today), another 3. His

> brother had 3, and I had 2. I had packed them as a

> potential reward since I had 2 doctors appts and 2

> other errands - not a fun day for 2 bored kids. But

> again, he had been as good as can be. This is a

> very

> rare treat, and he knew it was special and that it

> wouldn't happen often (but it helps him to cope

> w/all

> the times he can't get treats just knowing once in a

> while he can).

>

> Anyway, we get home, and he disappeared upstairs a

> moment, and came back handing me a donut. He had

> gotten into the cabinet and gotten some out w/out

> permission, and I just about freaked. The idea of

> him

> sneaking out food and pigging out on a no-no seems

> like something that must be stopped and stopped

> right

> then. I stormed upstairs, threw the rest of the

> donuts in the garbage, and was almost yelling when I

> told him to never get anything out of the cabinets

> without my permission. I was furious. Then I

> demanded to know how many he had eaten, and he said

> (as he started crying) " Mommy, I didn't eat any! I

> just wanted you to have three like we did. "

>

> My heart just broke. His expression was so hurt. I

> just showed him how sorry and shocked I was, how

> sweet

> I thought it was, admitted to what I had assumed

> (and

> how wrong since he was trying to be so thoughtful),

> and told him how sorry I was-how I was scared

> because

> too many sweets can make him sick, but that he was

> such a good boy and really knew how to wait for

> those

> special treats. Then I pulled one out of the garbage

> and ate it for him, and he thought that was pretty

> hysterical.lol. Relieved the stress of the moment.

>

> But I feel like such a cod now! I can't get that

> expression out of my mind. :( (Now I'm gonna take

> them to the pool and try to assuage my guilt by

> giving

> them a wonderful time.) Boy does fear trigger an

> over-reaction.

>

> Oh well...

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hey Barb -

Thanks.... I've found it very helpful if I'm feeling

really low about something, to share it or speak it

out, that just admitting it to someone somehow brings

a bit of relief. I felt much better after sharing it

w/the list, as you guys are the friends that would

understand.

We've had a great rest of the day, and he certainly

seems to have accepted my apology and moved on. He

knew I realized it - his emotional understanding at

age 6 almost 7 is just so good - I don't always see it

in typical kids. One benefit, I guess, of some of the

struggles we all go thru. He is already so ahead of

me in some ways from where I was as a kid - I could

never have expressed what my intention had been to my

mom had that happened. So even though I felt such

sorrow, it was a moment that will stick in my head w/a

memory of his expressiveness and wonderful intentions,

and I also know that he could tell just how sincerely

sorry I was and that I truly recognized - albeit a

little late lol - his effort and thoughtfullness. So

in the end, it was ok.

But it sure did hurt! Thanks for being there to listen

to my sorrows too. :) I do feel much better now.

--- Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...> wrote:

> Don't be too hard on yourself, . Ours kids

> learn that we are not perfect, and that we make

> mistakes. It is very impt. when we do something

> like

> this, to apologize--just like they need to apologize

> to us when they hurt our feelings. And this is what

> you did. Keeping humor throughout this whole

> process

> really helps a lot, too.

> Don't

> beat yourself up for one mistake. You will learn

> from

> it, too! That is what is so impt. about mistakes,

> we

> learn from them, and we go on. Thank you for sharing

> your experience. We all learn from each others'

> experiences on line, also. Barb

>

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,

It occurred to me as I was reading your post that if you had not found

treatment for your son, he might never have had the thought that his mom

deserved a doughnut. That would have been a real tragedy.

I think maybe you deserve a whole truck of doughnuts.

Caroline

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or perhaps you yell at your child (at the end of a long

day of work) after he's pulled down the ceiling of your

car (after a long day of school) and can't/doesn't have

the ability to verbalize his frustrations?

You replay that image in your head over and over, trying to

figure out how you could have handled the situation

differently ?

We strive to be the best parents we can be -

learn from mistakes made.

Kids and cats are pretty pliable ...

doris

maryland

>

> Hi all-

> You ever do something in a mini-tantrum and then find

> out how wrong you were... then just feel like the

> meanest mom? And feel driven to tell on yourself too?

>

> My son had had powdered donuts at school once and went

> crazy over them, and has a hard time with the fact

> that he doesn't get to have the kinds of treats other

> kids get. But one day after he had been a very

> patient little angel on a long hard day of errands,

> when he saw some powdered donuts and asked sweetly for

> them, I caved and got some. He was allowed 3 that

> day, and a few days later (today), another 3. His

> brother had 3, and I had 2. I had packed them as a

> potential reward since I had 2 doctors appts and 2

> other errands - not a fun day for 2 bored kids. But

> again, he had been as good as can be. This is a very

> rare treat, and he knew it was special and that it

> wouldn't happen often (but it helps him to cope w/all

> the times he can't get treats just knowing once in a

> while he can).

>

> Anyway, we get home, and he disappeared upstairs a

> moment, and came back handing me a donut. He had

> gotten into the cabinet and gotten some out w/out

> permission, and I just about freaked. The idea of him

> sneaking out food and pigging out on a no-no seems

> like something that must be stopped and stopped right

> then. I stormed upstairs, threw the rest of the

> donuts in the garbage, and was almost yelling when I

> told him to never get anything out of the cabinets

> without my permission. I was furious. Then I

> demanded to know how many he had eaten, and he said

> (as he started crying) " Mommy, I didn't eat any! I

> just wanted you to have three like we did. "

>

> My heart just broke. His expression was so hurt. I

> just showed him how sorry and shocked I was, how sweet

> I thought it was, admitted to what I had assumed (and

> how wrong since he was trying to be so thoughtful),

> and told him how sorry I was-how I was scared because

> too many sweets can make him sick, but that he was

> such a good boy and really knew how to wait for those

> special treats. Then I pulled one out of the garbage

> and ate it for him, and he thought that was pretty

> hysterical.lol. Relieved the stress of the moment.

>

> But I feel like such a cod now! I can't get that

> expression out of my mind. :( (Now I'm gonna take

> them to the pool and try to assuage my guilt by giving

> them a wonderful time.) Boy does fear trigger an

> over-reaction.

>

> Oh well...

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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HUGS!! We are *only* human, 'ya know? I'm glad you can share with us.

Kristy

Purge...

Hi all-

You ever do something in a mini-tantrum and then find

out how wrong you were... then just feel like the

meanest mom? And feel driven to tell on yourself too?

My son had had powdered donuts at school once and went

crazy over them, and has a hard time with the fact

that he doesn't get to have the kinds of treats other

kids get. But one day after he had been a very

patient little angel on a long hard day of errands,

when he saw some powdered donuts and asked sweetly for

them, I caved and got some. He was allowed 3 that

day, and a few days later (today), another 3. His

brother had 3, and I had 2. I had packed them as a

potential reward since I had 2 doctors appts and 2

other errands - not a fun day for 2 bored kids. But

again, he had been as good as can be. This is a very

rare treat, and he knew it was special and that it

wouldn't happen often (but it helps him to cope w/all

the times he can't get treats just knowing once in a

while he can).

Anyway, we get home, and he disappeared upstairs a

moment, and came back handing me a donut. He had

gotten into the cabinet and gotten some out w/out

permission, and I just about freaked. The idea of him

sneaking out food and pigging out on a no-no seems

like something that must be stopped and stopped right

then. I stormed upstairs, threw the rest of the

donuts in the garbage, and was almost yelling when I

told him to never get anything out of the cabinets

without my permission. I was furious. Then I

demanded to know how many he had eaten, and he said

(as he started crying) " Mommy, I didn't eat any! I

just wanted you to have three like we did. "

My heart just broke. His expression was so hurt. I

just showed him how sorry and shocked I was, how sweet

I thought it was, admitted to what I had assumed (and

how wrong since he was trying to be so thoughtful),

and told him how sorry I was-how I was scared because

too many sweets can make him sick, but that he was

such a good boy and really knew how to wait for those

special treats. Then I pulled one out of the garbage

and ate it for him, and he thought that was pretty

hysterical.lol. Relieved the stress of the moment.

But I feel like such a cod now! I can't get that

expression out of my mind. :( (Now I'm gonna take

them to the pool and try to assuage my guilt by giving

them a wonderful time.) Boy does fear trigger an

over-reaction.

Oh well...

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It was so wonderful last night to put my son to bed,

as he gazed at me w/the brightest smiles, made jokes,

and laughed, then gave me such an earnest hug, and

even gave me a goodnight kiss on the lips instead of

the usual nose-kiss. The kid can't be mad at me w/

that kind of expression on his face, and the way he

wanted to please me (yet again!lol) by doing so, then

giving me such a sweet smile like he was saying " I did

that 'cause I know you like it, and I feel so smugly

satisfied to have pleased you " . The sun rises and

falls in his eyes, that beautiful child!

Thanks, my fellow support group! And as one said, if

it weren't for , Dr G, and all the people who have

helped educate me and support me for the last few

years, I seriously doubt we would be at this place,

where I feel so much optimism, and the underlying

'aspie' things I see don't freak me out and feel like

his future is condemned. No. Far from it! We still

keep progressing a thousand fold even after being off

the protocol for over a year (that is, when I

straighten up if I drift off the diet a bit and

realize it was a mistake lol).

It is my greatest wish that all parents get to

experience this, and I cannot celebrate the joy

without remembering every moment that so many parents

are not yet at this point and have not had this joy

yet. OMG my prayers are for these kids and their

parents.

Love you guys!

--- Kristy Nardini <krnardini@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> HUGS!! We are *only* human, 'ya know? I'm glad you

> can share with us.

>

> Kristy

>

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Thank you! I'm feeling so hopeful and, well, elated these days for my son

and his progress with the protocol, too. We started last October and

have made a lot of progress. My son is starting to converse with me and he

is so engaging and interactive, and just downright joyful and adorable. He's

always been a cutie, but now he is really, really acknowledging that we

exist, and insisting that we engage with him. Yay!! Hopefully, talking as

well as his twin sis, making and keeping friends is next.

Kristy

RE: Purge...

It was so wonderful last night to put my son to bed,

as he gazed at me w/the brightest smiles, made jokes,

and laughed, then gave me such an earnest hug, and

even gave me a goodnight kiss on the lips instead of

the usual nose-kiss. The kid can't be mad at me w/

that kind of expression on his face, and the way he

wanted to please me (yet again!lol) by doing so, then

giving me such a sweet smile like he was saying " I did

that 'cause I know you like it, and I feel so smugly

satisfied to have pleased you " . The sun rises and

falls in his eyes, that beautiful child!

Thanks, my fellow support group! And as one said, if

it weren't for , Dr G, and all the people who have

helped educate me and support me for the last few

years, I seriously doubt we would be at this place,

where I feel so much optimism, and the underlying

'aspie' things I see don't freak me out and feel like

his future is condemned. No. Far from it! We still

keep progressing a thousand fold even after being off

the protocol for over a year (that is, when I

straighten up if I drift off the diet a bit and

realize it was a mistake lol).

It is my greatest wish that all parents get to

experience this, and I cannot celebrate the joy

without remembering every moment that so many parents

are not yet at this point and have not had this joy

yet. OMG my prayers are for these kids and their

parents.

Love you guys!

--- Kristy Nardini <krnardini@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> HUGS!! We are *only* human, 'ya know? I'm glad you

> can share with us.

>

> Kristy

>

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