Re: Re: Some basic questions about Speech therapy/RDI

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RDI stands for relationship development intervention. It is the only autism

remediation therapy that takes the child step by step through every stage of

development that a typical child would go through. It enables ASD kids to lay

down a typical foundation of development. The 2 studies have had outstanding

results. In the first one, the children were not divided by their diagnosis,

but after 18 months 50% of the kids had moved out of the autistic dx. In the

second study (a larger study), the kids were divided into 2 groups ASD and

autism (so aspergers and pdd-nos were in the ASD group). At the end of the

study, no kids had an autism dx and maybe half of the kids were testing as

typical and half as ASD. Our RDI consultant has worked with a severely autistic

boy/man since he was 12 (using many behavioral techniques). When he turned 21,

she became certified in RDI, and between 21 and 22, he made the most gains he

had made in the 10 years she had been working with him,

so it even offers hope for older kids and adults.

RDI is much more than language, but it stresses declarative language to force

the child to think. Too often kids with autism are spoken to in Q and A or

commands. An example of the difference is this...

Clean up your toys (imperative)

We would have so much more room to do your puzzle if the floor wasn't so messy

(declarative)

It has been found that parents speak in 80% declaratives with their typical

children and 80% imparatives with their ASD children. When you correct that,

the ASD child makes greater gains in speech (and overcomes many of the lingering

speech errors). There are a growing number of STs becoming certified in RDI

which is a great combination if you can find such a person.

Search Dr. Gutstein/RDI/connections center to find their site.

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meljackmom <meljackmom@...> wrote:

Interesting how everyone hit on the same theme...the phrasing of the

question. And I like that idea of asking or stating things in 2-3

phrases. Maybe this is our re-learning...giving all types of words

and phrases for the situations. And like you said Jeri, my son is

totally literal too. And ending a question with a preposition maybe

was just too much open-endedness...what grade are you going into

next year...may have been more finite.

RDI...I know I have heard of it but what is it?

Thanks for everyones help.

Oh and Jack is 6 1/2.

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> I know my son takes everything literally. I often see him looking

> stumped over the way we phrase things and then I think of how he

might

> be taking it. Then I try to re-phrase the sentence and then

explain to

> him that this is how people communicate sometimes. " What grade are

you

> going into? " I can see how this stumped him, he could of been

thinking

> about a test grade for example and how can you go into a grade A

or B? I

> hope this makes sense. This happened with my son the other day and

when

> I realized how he might have been thinking of it, it made me

laugh. I

> wish I had the exact situation for you. Hope this helps, Jerri

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Would you like me to forward your questions to an RDI consultant?

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aaron2kristie <aaron2kristie@...> wrote:

The only thing I would add is that the last study done on RDI in 2006

(on the website) says the children in the study were ALL high

functioning. That is troublesome reading. First how do they define

high functioning. Second, did the really consider this a fair

distribution of children in the study based on functioning? Who

conducts these studies? Is it reviewed and duplicated by other

agencices other than the group in Houston? Another thing to consider

is if your child has a severe language issue (as mine does) it plainly

states under facts on the website that RDI should not be the only form

of intervention. The kinds of children benefiting from RDI seem to be

those whose largest deficit is in the social realm. My son's largest

deficit seems to be language and motor planning.

Kristie

Aidan 3.1

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We are fortunate enough to have a lady who had some ABA training who has

been working with my son since he was 5. He is 9 now. She began RDI

training about two years ago and has done everything with him that she

was learning. He did have some basic language when she started. I think

this is helpful but maybe not essential because the first thing she did

with him was set up all kinds of games in which he had to constantly

reference her (look to her to for the next step). There was no language

involved. They have found this is one major deficiet with our children.

They do not look to others for a cue as to what to do. A lot of the

games they set up are mainly social, which has always been my main

concern for my son. I want him to have friends and hopefully get married

one day if he wants. He is getting better in these areas but still has a

long way to go. I think it was called master/apprentice. He is very good

at refernceing her and getting better with us but he hasn't transferred

to school. It has been very difficult to get him to look and listen to

the teacher. Maybe this is too hard to do because they are supposed to

do it all the time and I think maybe the school environment is so

distracting and other things probably way more interesting. Anyway, we

have been very happy with the RDI and it has helped tremendously with

his language, especially with the way people really talk, and trying to

get them to get the whole picture, body language, sarcasm..etc.

Everything seems to take much longer than I would hope, even Dr G. I

don't think anything works very well without a lot of hard and

consistent work. I must admit to being not real consistent and often

feeling overwhelmed as I see a few areas of improvement only but if I go

back to the beginning and look at the starting point it helps because

then the gains are huge. Thank you, for the great explanation of

speaking in declarative language instead of imperative. I had a rough

idea of how to do this but your explanation really made it easy. Jerri

aaron2kristie wrote:

> The only thing I would add is that the last study done on RDI in 2006

> (on the website) says the children in the study were ALL high

> functioning. That is troublesome reading. First how do they define

> high functioning. Second, did the really consider this a fair

> distribution of children in the study based on functioning? Who

> conducts these studies? Is it reviewed and duplicated by other

> agencices other than the group in Houston? Another thing to consider

> is if your child has a severe language issue (as mine does) it plainly

> states under facts on the website that RDI should not be the only form

> of intervention. The kinds of children benefiting from RDI seem to be

> those whose largest deficit is in the social realm. My son's largest

> deficit seems to be language and motor planning.

>

> Kristie

> Aidan 3.1

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I got an RDI manual out of the library. It made so much sense when I read

it through and the activities were easy for me to do. The hardest part is

finding time to do everything!

>You can if you would like. I am not opposed to hearing alternate

>viewpoints. I will just have to keep in mind the RDI consultant

>is " selling " RDI(which btw is none to cheap!)

>

>Kristie

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Don't worry, the person I intend to forward this to is anything but a

salesperson. She is one of those rare gems who just " gets " our kids and is

completely devoted to them. She was even asked to become the legal guardian of

one of her clients should anything happen to the parents and she agreed. She is

maybe 30 and this means she will someday be the legal guardian of a now 22 YO

non-verbal man so that he does not ever have to face a group home!. She has

worked with the autism community since she was 18 and she is certified in ABA,

sonrise and RDI. She is on vacation right now, but I will forward your

questions when she gets back.

RDI can be covered under your mental health benefits BTW as long as the

provider is either a SLP or mental health counselor (most of them are).

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aaron2kristie <aaron2kristie@...> wrote:

You can if you would like. I am not opposed to hearing alternate

viewpoints. I will just have to keep in mind the RDI consultant

is " selling " RDI(which btw is none to cheap!)

Kristie

> Would you like me to forward your questions to an RDI consultant?

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> aaron2kristie <aaron2kristie@...> wrote:

> The only thing I would add is that the last study done

on RDI in 2006

> (on the website) says the children in the study were ALL high

> functioning. That is troublesome reading. First how do they define

> high functioning. Second, did the really consider this a fair

> distribution of children in the study based on functioning? Who

> conducts these studies? Is it reviewed and duplicated by other

> agencices other than the group in Houston? Another thing to

consider

> is if your child has a severe language issue (as mine does) it

plainly

> states under facts on the website that RDI should not be the only

form

> of intervention. The kinds of children benefiting from RDI seem to

be

> those whose largest deficit is in the social realm. My son's

largest

> deficit seems to be language and motor planning.

>

> Kristie

> Aidan 3.1

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[Guest guest]

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Do you recall the name or author of this book? I checked my library's

online catalog and could find nothing with the title or subject of RDI or

Relationship Development Intervention.

Thanks

April

Re: Re: Some basic questions about Speech therapy/RDI

> I got an RDI manual out of the library. It made so much sense when I read

> it through and the activities were easy for me to do. The hardest part is

> finding time to do everything!

>

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> >You can if you would like. I am not opposed to hearing alternate

> >viewpoints. I will just have to keep in mind the RDI consultant

> >is " selling " RDI(which btw is none to cheap!)

> >

> >Kristie

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> the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, or the

list moderator(s).

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April,

The title is

Autism Aspergers: Solving the Relationship Puzzle

by Gutstein. I'm also curious to others who have used RDI, is there

a specific book you'd recommend?

At 09:43 PM 7/16/2006, you wrote:

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>Do you recall the name or author of this book? I checked my library's

>online catalog and could find nothing with the title or subject of RDI or

>Relationship Development Intervention.

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>Thanks

>April

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You would definately want to start with that book. -

and Daron Freedberg <mdfreedberg@...> wrote: April,

The title is

Autism Aspergers: Solving the Relationship Puzzle

by Gutstein. I'm also curious to others who have used RDI, is there

a specific book you'd recommend?

At 09:43 PM 7/16/2006, you wrote:

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>Do you recall the name or author of this book? I checked my library's

>online catalog and could find nothing with the title or subject of RDI or

>Relationship Development Intervention.

>

>Thanks

>April