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Hi ,

Well, I have no experience with this, my son is verbal (but did not fully

potty train until 4.3 years old), but I guess it would look a lot like potty

training any other kid wouldn't it? Try your local library and check out

some children's books on the subject to read with him and maybe even a video

or two. Buy a training potty and (when it's a BM) put the contents of the

diaper/pull-up into the potty so he can see where it goes. Let him see his

daddy going potty. Insert it into your pretend play with dolls or stuffed

animals. There are just a TON of products to aid with potty training.

There's even a potty that sings a song when he's successful (Tinkle Toonz).

I guess the best thing would be to take a look at what's available and

determine which one(s) may be a good fit for your son.

http://www.pottytrainingstuff.com/

I guess this isn't terribly insightful, but I wish you luck on this

adventure.

April

potty training a nonverbal child

> Anybody have any great advice for beginning to potty

> train a non-verbal, boy, who isn't familiar with the

> PECS system yet? I can tell he's ready, because he's

> starting to take his shorts & diaper off, so he is

> noticing that he's wet. Any words of wisdom would be

> appreciated!!

>

>

>

> --- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi Donna-

> >

> > Also getting the baby started on probiotics (there

> > is

> > a baby-probiotic made but I know nothing about it),

> > and perhaps Nystatin (as Nystatin is harmless

> > although

> > can't swear it will be particularly helpful). She

> > may

> > also want to eliminate most of the wheat in her diet

> > just in case baby is having a gluten intolerance as

> > well - very sensitive tummys.

> >

> > Perhaps mom can see a lactation consultant instead

> > of

> > having to supplement. She should have the baby

> > weighed before and after nursing to find out how

> > many

> > ounces of milk the baby is getting. If the baby is

> > appearing to need supplementing because of a

> > constant

> > desire to nurse, it may not truly be hunger. It

> > could

> > be tummy pain and trying to nurse for comfort (hence

> > the Nystatin and probiotics and immediate diet

> > change), or even lactose intolerance, although

> > weaning

> > isn't necessarily a good idea at the moment since

> > finding the proper formula could be a challenge and

> > the baby could react just as badly to soy. It could

> > also be poor digestion -possibly from an

> > inflammatory

> > reaction to the 2 mo vaccine - was a DTaP in that?

> > can't remember, or to yeast (which would probably be

> > there also in the even of inflammatory reaction), or

> > to lack of good tummy flora (did mom have to have

> > antibiotics during labor?).

> >

> > Bless her heart. She needs a great deal of

> > assurance

> > and support right now. Stress will exacerbate

> > nursing

> > problems, and probably even put stress hormones in

> > the

> > milk (not that she needs to worry about that too -

> > the

> > baby will survive that). She needs to KNOW that

> > this

> > can be stopped and reversed.

> >

> > She could probably stand to have somebody make meals

> > for her and the family - or at the very least, give

> > her a list of good foods to cook - for a few days if

> > she has a good support network she can call on.

> >

> > Tell her over and over that Dr G can help with this

> > and that to be so observant early on is a blessing

> > and

> > very likely to save her baby a lot of problems later

> > on. Also, make sure the office is very aware that

> > this is an infant in the earliest stages and see if

> > they will triage her and give an earlier

> > appointment.

> >

> >

> > --- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote:

> >

> > > I've got another question for you all. Recently,

> > I

> > > was contacted by a

> > > woman who is seeing signs of ASD in her

> > 4-month-old

> > > son. She's

> > > breastfeeding him and has been supplimenting with

> > > formula --

> > > milk-based first, and then soy. He's not making

> > eye

> > > contact and

> > > constantly wringing his hands. He had reactions

> > to

> > > his 2-month

> > > vaccinations and she has not taken him for any

> > more.

> > > Her current

> > > pediatrician told her it's " too early " to be

> > > concerned about autism,

> > > but he also said the same thing about her

> > now-2-1/2

> > > year-old daughter

> > > who, it is now obvious, is clearly affected.

> > >

> > > She has contacted Dr. G's office, and is waiting

> > for

> > > an appt. for her

> > > daughter, but Dr. G will not see children as young

> > > as her son.

> > >

> > > In the meantime, I advised her to get herself on

> > the

> > > diet and, if

> > > she needs to suppliment, to use a hypoallergenic

> > > formula without

> > > casein (there are two that I know of; EleCare and

> > > Neocate). I also

> > > told her to get herself a new pediatrician who

> > will

> > > let her space out

> > > vaccinations.

> > >

> > > Is there anything else I need to tell her? And

> > can

> > > anyone recommend a

> > > sympathetic and knowledgable pediatrician in the

> > > Orange County area?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > >

> > > Donna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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I successfully potty trained my nonverbal child. I just put him in

regular underwear. He had some accidents and learned to hold it

until I took him. I just have to take him on a regular basis.

Sometimes he will go himself but mainly I take him. I put him in

regular underwear at night as well. Just put him in regular

underwear and potty training will go a lot faster. It is a lot of

wash at first but it doesn't last long. Kristy

On May 26, 2006, at 8:47 AM, April Jagnow wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Well, I have no experience with this, my son is verbal (but did not

> fully

> potty train until 4.3 years old), but I guess it would look a lot

> like potty

> training any other kid wouldn't it? Try your local library and

> check out

> some children's books on the subject to read with him and maybe

> even a video

> or two. Buy a training potty and (when it's a BM) put the contents

> of the

> diaper/pull-up into the potty so he can see where it goes. Let him

> see his

> daddy going potty. Insert it into your pretend play with dolls or

> stuffed

> animals. There are just a TON of products to aid with potty training.

> There's even a potty that sings a song when he's successful (Tinkle

> Toonz).

> I guess the best thing would be to take a look at what's available and

> determine which one(s) may be a good fit for your son.

> http://www.pottytrainingstuff.com/

>

> I guess this isn't terribly insightful, but I wish you luck on this

> adventure.

>

> April

>

> potty training a nonverbal child

>

>

> > Anybody have any great advice for beginning to potty

> > train a non-verbal, boy, who isn't familiar with the

> > PECS system yet? I can tell he's ready, because he's

> > starting to take his shorts & diaper off, so he is

> > noticing that he's wet. Any words of wisdom would be

> > appreciated!!

> >

> >

> >

> > --- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Donna-

> > >

> > > Also getting the baby started on probiotics (there

> > > is

> > > a baby-probiotic made but I know nothing about it),

> > > and perhaps Nystatin (as Nystatin is harmless

> > > although

> > > can't swear it will be particularly helpful). She

> > > may

> > > also want to eliminate most of the wheat in her diet

> > > just in case baby is having a gluten intolerance as

> > > well - very sensitive tummys.

> > >

> > > Perhaps mom can see a lactation consultant instead

> > > of

> > > having to supplement. She should have the baby

> > > weighed before and after nursing to find out how

> > > many

> > > ounces of milk the baby is getting. If the baby is

> > > appearing to need supplementing because of a

> > > constant

> > > desire to nurse, it may not truly be hunger. It

> > > could

> > > be tummy pain and trying to nurse for comfort (hence

> > > the Nystatin and probiotics and immediate diet

> > > change), or even lactose intolerance, although

> > > weaning

> > > isn't necessarily a good idea at the moment since

> > > finding the proper formula could be a challenge and

> > > the baby could react just as badly to soy. It could

> > > also be poor digestion -possibly from an

> > > inflammatory

> > > reaction to the 2 mo vaccine - was a DTaP in that?

> > > can't remember, or to yeast (which would probably be

> > > there also in the even of inflammatory reaction), or

> > > to lack of good tummy flora (did mom have to have

> > > antibiotics during labor?).

> > >

> > > Bless her heart. She needs a great deal of

> > > assurance

> > > and support right now. Stress will exacerbate

> > > nursing

> > > problems, and probably even put stress hormones in

> > > the

> > > milk (not that she needs to worry about that too -

> > > the

> > > baby will survive that). She needs to KNOW that

> > > this

> > > can be stopped and reversed.

> > >

> > > She could probably stand to have somebody make meals

> > > for her and the family - or at the very least, give

> > > her a list of good foods to cook - for a few days if

> > > she has a good support network she can call on.

> > >

> > > Tell her over and over that Dr G can help with this

> > > and that to be so observant early on is a blessing

> > > and

> > > very likely to save her baby a lot of problems later

> > > on. Also, make sure the office is very aware that

> > > this is an infant in the earliest stages and see if

> > > they will triage her and give an earlier

> > > appointment.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > I've got another question for you all. Recently,

> > > I

> > > > was contacted by a

> > > > woman who is seeing signs of ASD in her

> > > 4-month-old

> > > > son. She's

> > > > breastfeeding him and has been supplimenting with

> > > > formula --

> > > > milk-based first, and then soy. He's not making

> > > eye

> > > > contact and

> > > > constantly wringing his hands. He had reactions

> > > to

> > > > his 2-month

> > > > vaccinations and she has not taken him for any

> > > more.

> > > > Her current

> > > > pediatrician told her it's " too early " to be

> > > > concerned about autism,

> > > > but he also said the same thing about her

> > > now-2-1/2

> > > > year-old daughter

> > > > who, it is now obvious, is clearly affected.

> > > >

> > > > She has contacted Dr. G's office, and is waiting

> > > for

> > > > an appt. for her

> > > > daughter, but Dr. G will not see children as young

> > > > as her son.

> > > >

> > > > In the meantime, I advised her to get herself on

> > > the

> > > > diet and, if

> > > > she needs to suppliment, to use a hypoallergenic

> > > > formula without

> > > > casein (there are two that I know of; EleCare and

> > > > Neocate). I also

> > > > told her to get herself a new pediatrician who

> > > will

> > > > let her space out

> > > > vaccinations.

> > > >

> > > > Is there anything else I need to tell her? And

> > > can

> > > > anyone recommend a

> > > > sympathetic and knowledgable pediatrician in the

> > > > Orange County area?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > >

> > > > Donna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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Can you explain in a little more detail for me please?

Perhaps I'm a little asd, and need a step by step

break down! ;-) Did you say " potty time " or anything

before taking him, or just took him & sat him on the

potty? How did you know when he needed to go? I can

see how the regular underware would help it go faster,

I think it will really bother him to be wet. But,

unclear on how you explain or show them when it's time

to go to the bathroom.

Thanks for your help!

--- Kristy <K@...> wrote:

> I successfully potty trained my nonverbal child. I

> just put him in

> regular underwear. He had some accidents and

> learned to hold it

> until I took him. I just have to take him on a

> regular basis.

> Sometimes he will go himself but mainly I take him.

> I put him in

> regular underwear at night as well. Just put him

> in regular

> underwear and potty training will go a lot faster.

> It is a lot of

> wash at first but it doesn't last long. Kristy

> On May 26, 2006, at 8:47 AM, April Jagnow wrote:

>

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Well, I have no experience with this, my son is

> verbal (but did not

> > fully

> > potty train until 4.3 years old), but I guess it

> would look a lot

> > like potty

> > training any other kid wouldn't it? Try your

> local library and

> > check out

> > some children's books on the subject to read with

> him and maybe

> > even a video

> > or two. Buy a training potty and (when it's a BM)

> put the contents

> > of the

> > diaper/pull-up into the potty so he can see where

> it goes. Let him

> > see his

> > daddy going potty. Insert it into your pretend

> play with dolls or

> > stuffed

> > animals. There are just a TON of products to aid

> with potty training.

> > There's even a potty that sings a song when he's

> successful (Tinkle

> > Toonz).

> > I guess the best thing would be to take a look at

> what's available and

> > determine which one(s) may be a good fit for your

> son.

> > http://www.pottytrainingstuff.com/

> >

> > I guess this isn't terribly insightful, but I wish

> you luck on this

> > adventure.

> >

> > April

> >

> > potty training a nonverbal child

> >

> >

> > > Anybody have any great advice for beginning to

> potty

> > > train a non-verbal, boy, who isn't familiar with

> the

> > > PECS system yet? I can tell he's ready, because

> he's

> > > starting to take his shorts & diaper off, so he

> is

> > > noticing that he's wet. Any words of wisdom

> would be

> > > appreciated!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- <thecolemans4@...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Donna-

> > > >

> > > > Also getting the baby started on probiotics

> (there

> > > > is

> > > > a baby-probiotic made but I know nothing about

> it),

> > > > and perhaps Nystatin (as Nystatin is harmless

> > > > although

> > > > can't swear it will be particularly helpful).

> She

> > > > may

> > > > also want to eliminate most of the wheat in

> her diet

> > > > just in case baby is having a gluten

> intolerance as

> > > > well - very sensitive tummys.

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps mom can see a lactation consultant

> instead

> > > > of

> > > > having to supplement. She should have the

> baby

> > > > weighed before and after nursing to find out

> how

> > > > many

> > > > ounces of milk the baby is getting. If the

> baby is

> > > > appearing to need supplementing because of a

> > > > constant

> > > > desire to nurse, it may not truly be hunger.

> It

> > > > could

> > > > be tummy pain and trying to nurse for comfort

> (hence

> > > > the Nystatin and probiotics and immediate diet

> > > > change), or even lactose intolerance, although

> > > > weaning

> > > > isn't necessarily a good idea at the moment

> since

> > > > finding the proper formula could be a

> challenge and

> > > > the baby could react just as badly to soy. It

> could

> > > > also be poor digestion -possibly from an

> > > > inflammatory

> > > > reaction to the 2 mo vaccine - was a DTaP in

> that?

> > > > can't remember, or to yeast (which would

> probably be

> > > > there also in the even of inflammatory

> reaction), or

> > > > to lack of good tummy flora (did mom have to

> have

> > > > antibiotics during labor?).

> > > >

> > > > Bless her heart. She needs a great deal of

> > > > assurance

> > > > and support right now. Stress will exacerbate

> > > > nursing

> > > > problems, and probably even put stress

> hormones in

> > > > the

> > > > milk (not that she needs to worry about that

> too -

> > > > the

> > > > baby will survive that). She needs to KNOW

> that

> > > > this

> > > > can be stopped and reversed.

> > > >

> > > > She could probably stand to have somebody make

> meals

> > > > for her and the family - or at the very least,

> give

> > > > her a list of good foods to cook - for a few

> days if

> > > > she has a good support network she can call

> on.

> > > >

> > > > Tell her over and over that Dr G can help with

> this

> > > > and that to be so observant early on is a

> blessing

> > > > and

> > > > very likely to save her baby a lot of problems

> later

> > > > on. Also, make sure the office is very aware

> that

> > > > this is an infant in the earliest stages and

> see if

> > > > they will triage her and give an earlier

> > > > appointment.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- princesspeach <donnaaron@...>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > I've got another question for you all.

> Recently,

> > > > I

> > > > > was contacted by a

> > > > > woman who is seeing signs of ASD in her

> > > > 4-month-old

> > > > > son. She's

> > > > > breastfeeding him and has been supplimenting

> with

> > > > > formula --

> > > > > milk-based first, and then soy. He's not

> making

> > > > eye

> > > > > contact and

> > > > > constantly wringing his hands. He had

> reactions

> > > > to

> > > > > his 2-month

> > > > > vaccinations and she has not taken him for

> any

> > > > more.

> > > > > Her current

> > > > > pediatrician told her it's " too early " to be

>

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This is how we potty trained our non-verbal son at 3yr old....

Got rid of all pull-ups except for bedtime. During the day put him in

underware with plastic pants (you can still buy these at Walmart or Kmart). The

sensation of being wet drove him to be sucessful at using the toilet. Plus like

any other child, lot of praise at sucess, and don't make a big deal when they

miss.

It took us probably about 3months to be 100% sucessful and then out went the

plastic pants and out went the night time pull-ups.

cat

Curtis and Hackler <thehacks@...> wrote:

Anybody have any great advice for beginning to potty

train a non-verbal, boy, who isn't familiar with the

PECS system yet? I can tell he's ready, because he's

starting to take his shorts & diaper off, so he is

noticing that he's wet. Any words of wisdom would be

appreciated!!

--- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> Hi Donna-

>

> Also getting the baby started on probiotics (there

> is

> a baby-probiotic made but I know nothing about it),

> and perhaps Nystatin (as Nystatin is harmless

> although

> can't swear it will be particularly helpful). She

> may

> also want to eliminate most of the wheat in her diet

> just in case baby is having a gluten intolerance as

> well - very sensitive tummys.

>

> Perhaps mom can see a lactation consultant instead

> of

> having to supplement. She should have the baby

> weighed before and after nursing to find out how

> many

> ounces of milk the baby is getting. If the baby is

> appearing to need supplementing because of a

> constant

> desire to nurse, it may not truly be hunger. It

> could

> be tummy pain and trying to nurse for comfort (hence

> the Nystatin and probiotics and immediate diet

> change), or even lactose intolerance, although

> weaning

> isn't necessarily a good idea at the moment since

> finding the proper formula could be a challenge and

> the baby could react just as badly to soy. It could

> also be poor digestion -possibly from an

> inflammatory

> reaction to the 2 mo vaccine - was a DTaP in that?

> can't remember, or to yeast (which would probably be

> there also in the even of inflammatory reaction), or

> to lack of good tummy flora (did mom have to have

> antibiotics during labor?).

>

> Bless her heart. She needs a great deal of

> assurance

> and support right now. Stress will exacerbate

> nursing

> problems, and probably even put stress hormones in

> the

> milk (not that she needs to worry about that too -

> the

> baby will survive that). She needs to KNOW that

> this

> can be stopped and reversed.

>

> She could probably stand to have somebody make meals

> for her and the family - or at the very least, give

> her a list of good foods to cook - for a few days if

> she has a good support network she can call on.

>

> Tell her over and over that Dr G can help with this

> and that to be so observant early on is a blessing

> and

> very likely to save her baby a lot of problems later

> on. Also, make sure the office is very aware that

> this is an infant in the earliest stages and see if

> they will triage her and give an earlier

> appointment.

>

>

> --- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote:

>

> > I've got another question for you all. Recently,

> I

> > was contacted by a

> > woman who is seeing signs of ASD in her

> 4-month-old

> > son. She's

> > breastfeeding him and has been supplimenting with

> > formula --

> > milk-based first, and then soy. He's not making

> eye

> > contact and

> > constantly wringing his hands. He had reactions

> to

> > his 2-month

> > vaccinations and she has not taken him for any

> more.

> > Her current

> > pediatrician told her it's " too early " to be

> > concerned about autism,

> > but he also said the same thing about her

> now-2-1/2

> > year-old daughter

> > who, it is now obvious, is clearly affected.

> >

> > She has contacted Dr. G's office, and is waiting

> for

> > an appt. for her

> > daughter, but Dr. G will not see children as young

> > as her son.

> >

> > In the meantime, I advised her to get herself on

> the

> > diet and, if

> > she needs to suppliment, to use a hypoallergenic

> > formula without

> > casein (there are two that I know of; EleCare and

> > Neocate). I also

> > told her to get herself a new pediatrician who

> will

> > let her space out

> > vaccinations.

> >

> > Is there anything else I need to tell her? And

> can

> > anyone recommend a

> > sympathetic and knowledgable pediatrician in the

> > Orange County area?

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I just took him. As simple as that. He has some words now but he

didn't when I potty trained him. I just took him and sat him on the

potty and after a while he would sit down some and stand up some.

Now when I take him he says " I want pee pee potty. " He doesn't tell

me when he needs to go, I just take him every couple of hours. Kristy

On May 26, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Curtis and Hackler wrote:

> Can you explain in a little more detail for me please?

> Perhaps I'm a little asd, and need a step by step

> break down! ;-) Did you say " potty time " or anything

> before taking him, or just took him & sat him on the

> potty? How did you know when he needed to go? I can

> see how the regular underware would help it go faster,

> I think it will really bother him to be wet. But,

> unclear on how you explain or show them when it's time

> to go to the bathroom.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

> --- Kristy <K@...> wrote:

>

> > I successfully potty trained my nonverbal child. I

> > just put him in

> > regular underwear. He had some accidents and

> > learned to hold it

> > until I took him. I just have to take him on a

> > regular basis.

> > Sometimes he will go himself but mainly I take him.

> > I put him in

> > regular underwear at night as well. Just put him

> > in regular

> > underwear and potty training will go a lot faster.

> > It is a lot of

> > wash at first but it doesn't last long. Kristy

> > On May 26, 2006, at 8:47 AM, April Jagnow wrote:

> >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > Well, I have no experience with this, my son is

> > verbal (but did not

> > > fully

> > > potty train until 4.3 years old), but I guess it

> > would look a lot

> > > like potty

> > > training any other kid wouldn't it? Try your

> > local library and

> > > check out

> > > some children's books on the subject to read with

> > him and maybe

> > > even a video

> > > or two. Buy a training potty and (when it's a BM)

> > put the contents

> > > of the

> > > diaper/pull-up into the potty so he can see where

> > it goes. Let him

> > > see his

> > > daddy going potty. Insert it into your pretend

> > play with dolls or

> > > stuffed

> > > animals. There are just a TON of products to aid

> > with potty training.

> > > There's even a potty that sings a song when he's

> > successful (Tinkle

> > > Toonz).

> > > I guess the best thing would be to take a look at

> > what's available and

> > > determine which one(s) may be a good fit for your

> > son.

> > > http://www.pottytrainingstuff.com/

> > >

> > > I guess this isn't terribly insightful, but I wish

> > you luck on this

> > > adventure.

> > >

> > > April

> > >

> > > potty training a nonverbal child

> > >

> > >

> > > > Anybody have any great advice for beginning to

> > potty

> > > > train a non-verbal, boy, who isn't familiar with

> > the

> > > > PECS system yet? I can tell he's ready, because

> > he's

> > > > starting to take his shorts & diaper off, so he

> > is

> > > > noticing that he's wet. Any words of wisdom

> > would be

> > > > appreciated!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- <thecolemans4@...>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Donna-

> > > > >

> > > > > Also getting the baby started on probiotics

> > (there

> > > > > is

> > > > > a baby-probiotic made but I know nothing about

> > it),

> > > > > and perhaps Nystatin (as Nystatin is harmless

> > > > > although

> > > > > can't swear it will be particularly helpful).

> > She

> > > > > may

> > > > > also want to eliminate most of the wheat in

> > her diet

> > > > > just in case baby is having a gluten

> > intolerance as

> > > > > well - very sensitive tummys.

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps mom can see a lactation consultant

> > instead

> > > > > of

> > > > > having to supplement. She should have the

> > baby

> > > > > weighed before and after nursing to find out

> > how

> > > > > many

> > > > > ounces of milk the baby is getting. If the

> > baby is

> > > > > appearing to need supplementing because of a

> > > > > constant

> > > > > desire to nurse, it may not truly be hunger.

> > It

> > > > > could

> > > > > be tummy pain and trying to nurse for comfort

> > (hence

> > > > > the Nystatin and probiotics and immediate diet

> > > > > change), or even lactose intolerance, although

> > > > > weaning

> > > > > isn't necessarily a good idea at the moment

> > since

> > > > > finding the proper formula could be a

> > challenge and

> > > > > the baby could react just as badly to soy. It

> > could

> > > > > also be poor digestion -possibly from an

> > > > > inflammatory

> > > > > reaction to the 2 mo vaccine - was a DTaP in

> > that?

> > > > > can't remember, or to yeast (which would

> > probably be

> > > > > there also in the even of inflammatory

> > reaction), or

> > > > > to lack of good tummy flora (did mom have to

> > have

> > > > > antibiotics during labor?).

> > > > >

> > > > > Bless her heart. She needs a great deal of

> > > > > assurance

> > > > > and support right now. Stress will exacerbate

> > > > > nursing

> > > > > problems, and probably even put stress

> > hormones in

> > > > > the

> > > > > milk (not that she needs to worry about that

> > too -

> > > > > the

> > > > > baby will survive that). She needs to KNOW

> > that

> > > > > this

> > > > > can be stopped and reversed.

> > > > >

> > > > > She could probably stand to have somebody make

> > meals

> > > > > for her and the family - or at the very least,

> > give

> > > > > her a list of good foods to cook - for a few

> > days if

> > > > > she has a good support network she can call

> > on.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tell her over and over that Dr G can help with

> > this

> > > > > and that to be so observant early on is a

> > blessing

> > > > > and

> > > > > very likely to save her baby a lot of problems

> > later

> > > > > on. Also, make sure the office is very aware

> > that

> > > > > this is an infant in the earliest stages and

> > see if

> > > > > they will triage her and give an earlier

> > > > > appointment.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- princesspeach <donnaaron@...>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > I've got another question for you all.

> > Recently,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > was contacted by a

> > > > > > woman who is seeing signs of ASD in her

> > > > > 4-month-old

> > > > > > son. She's

> > > > > > breastfeeding him and has been supplimenting

> > with

> > > > > > formula --

> > > > > > milk-based first, and then soy. He's not

> > making

> > > > > eye

> > > > > > contact and

> > > > > > constantly wringing his hands. He had

> > reactions

> > > > > to

> > > > > > his 2-month

> > > > > > vaccinations and she has not taken him for

> > any

> > > > > more.

> > > > > > Her current

> > > > > > pediatrician told her it's " too early " to be

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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I just want to throw two words in here regarding potty training...

" BISSELL SPOTLIFTER " .

My little handheld Spotlifter was a HUGE support in cleaning the carpet time

after time... infinity. I LOVE IT. I have the rechargeable model and if it

ever gave out I would replace it with the one you plug in. It usually works

for the right amount of time to vacuum up a wet spot but every once in a

while the charge will run out before the job is done... or someone will

forget to plug it in to charge and then when the next person goes to get it

in a panic, it's not charged. Regardless, it beats towels, water and

vinegar and doing soggy towel laundry a hundred million times.

Oh, and when someone has the stomach flu... well, I love it even more then.

Anyway, speaking as a mother of 5, it has been a GREAT thing to have.

If I were a millionaire I'd buy you all one.

Caroline

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We have all hardwood floors because of allergies. This makes cleanup a lot

easier. At 3, my son had chicken pox. I put him in a big T-shirt and nothing

else. He went on the floor, I picked him up and put him in front of the toilet

Granted, we had 10 days of being at home to work on this, but it happened! He

really took notice of making a puddle.

When his older brother went, I took him in with him. Amazingly, it was one of

the easiest accomplishments he made early on. Pooping was difficult for my

typical son and affected son. They were really scared to let it go down the

toilet. Other moms of boys have shared similar stories. That took another 6

mos. But... it's easier to anticipate, ie, after meals.

I think everyone has to find what makes these children aware of needing to go.

Mine could have cared less if they went in their pants. Go figure.

Ellen

Re: potty training a nonverbal child

I just want to throw two words in here regarding potty training...

" BISSELL SPOTLIFTER " .

My little handheld Spotlifter was a HUGE support in cleaning the carpet time

after time... infinity. I LOVE IT. I have the rechargeable model and if it

ever gave out I would replace it with the one you plug in. It usually works

for the right amount of time to vacuum up a wet spot but every once in a

while the charge will run out before the job is done... or someone will

forget to plug it in to charge and then when the next person goes to get it

in a panic, it's not charged. Regardless, it beats towels, water and

vinegar and doing soggy towel laundry a hundred million times.

Oh, and when someone has the stomach flu... well, I love it even more then.

Anyway, speaking as a mother of 5, it has been a GREAT thing to have.

If I were a millionaire I'd buy you all one.

Caroline

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I second getting rid of all pull-ups except for bedtime, this was the

key for my son who is now closing in on 4. At 3.5 I just had had enough

and decided to just ax the pull-ups and this made, myself as well as

other care-givers and therapists more responsible for taking him and

sitting him on the potty frequently, it took about a week or two of

constantly taking him in there and lots of accidents and lots of changes

of clothes, but then one day a couple weeks into it, he just starting

going into the potty himself, but it took this to get him to be able to

feel the sensation. Within a couple more weeks he was telling me

" potty " when he had to go, my son has some language and verbal skills

but doesn't understand complex language. I wish I would have taken away

the pull ups sooner, he was obviously ready, I was the one who wasn't

following through with it. Anyway, hope it goes well!!

Re: potty training a nonverbal child

This is how we potty trained our non-verbal son at 3yr old....

Got rid of all pull-ups except for bedtime. During the day put him in

underware with plastic pants (you can still buy these at Walmart or

Kmart). The sensation of being wet drove him to be sucessful at using

the toilet. Plus like any other child, lot of praise at sucess, and

don't make a big deal when they miss.

It took us probably about 3months to be 100% sucessful and then out

went the plastic pants and out went the night time pull-ups.

cat

Curtis and Hackler <thehacks@...> wrote:

Anybody have any great advice for beginning to potty

train a non-verbal, boy, who isn't familiar with the

PECS system yet? I can tell he's ready, because he's

starting to take his shorts & diaper off, so he is

noticing that he's wet. Any words of wisdom would be

appreciated!!

--- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> Hi Donna-

>

> Also getting the baby started on probiotics (there

> is

> a baby-probiotic made but I know nothing about it),

> and perhaps Nystatin (as Nystatin is harmless

> although

> can't swear it will be particularly helpful). She

> may

> also want to eliminate most of the wheat in her diet

> just in case baby is having a gluten intolerance as

> well - very sensitive tummys.

>

> Perhaps mom can see a lactation consultant instead

> of

> having to supplement. She should have the baby

> weighed before and after nursing to find out how

> many

> ounces of milk the baby is getting. If the baby is

> appearing to need supplementing because of a

> constant

> desire to nurse, it may not truly be hunger. It

> could

> be tummy pain and trying to nurse for comfort (hence

> the Nystatin and probiotics and immediate diet

> change), or even lactose intolerance, although

> weaning

> isn't necessarily a good idea at the moment since

> finding the proper formula could be a challenge and

> the baby could react just as badly to soy. It could

> also be poor digestion -possibly from an

> inflammatory

> reaction to the 2 mo vaccine - was a DTaP in that?

> can't remember, or to yeast (which would probably be

> there also in the even of inflammatory reaction), or

> to lack of good tummy flora (did mom have to have

> antibiotics during labor?).

>

> Bless her heart. She needs a great deal of

> assurance

> and support right now. Stress will exacerbate

> nursing

> problems, and probably even put stress hormones in

> the

> milk (not that she needs to worry about that too -

> the

> baby will survive that). She needs to KNOW that

> this

> can be stopped and reversed.

>

> She could probably stand to have somebody make meals

> for her and the family - or at the very least, give

> her a list of good foods to cook - for a few days if

> she has a good support network she can call on.

>

> Tell her over and over that Dr G can help with this

> and that to be so observant early on is a blessing

> and

> very likely to save her baby a lot of problems later

> on. Also, make sure the office is very aware that

> this is an infant in the earliest stages and see if

> they will triage her and give an earlier

> appointment.

>

>

> --- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote:

>

> > I've got another question for you all. Recently,

> I

> > was contacted by a

> > woman who is seeing signs of ASD in her

> 4-month-old

> > son. She's

> > breastfeeding him and has been supplimenting with

> > formula --

> > milk-based first, and then soy. He's not making

> eye

> > contact and

> > constantly wringing his hands. He had reactions

> to

> > his 2-month

> > vaccinations and she has not taken him for any

> more.

> > Her current

> > pediatrician told her it's " too early " to be

> > concerned about autism,

> > but he also said the same thing about her

> now-2-1/2

> > year-old daughter

> > who, it is now obvious, is clearly affected.

> >

> > She has contacted Dr. G's office, and is waiting

> for

> > an appt. for her

> > daughter, but Dr. G will not see children as young

> > as her son.

> >

> > In the meantime, I advised her to get herself on

> the

> > diet and, if

> > she needs to suppliment, to use a hypoallergenic

> > formula without

> > casein (there are two that I know of; EleCare and

> > Neocate). I also

> > told her to get herself a new pediatrician who

> will

> > let her space out

> > vaccinations.

> >

> > Is there anything else I need to tell her? And

> can

> > anyone recommend a

> > sympathetic and knowledgable pediatrician in the

> > Orange County area?

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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