Re: [Rifeforum] Other Rife Topics - Lose Weight with Rife!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

if you read my message on loosing fat properly, you will find the

section you quoted was from an April Fool's joke I originally posted

on April 1, 2003 which I then resolved the following day as a joke.

So in this case I agree that this section is nonsense and should not

be taken seriously. I am not proud of this joke as I can see that it

has led to some confusion at later dates. I have not made any more

such jokes before or after this one.

The orignal April Fool's joke was posted on the Rife Forum here:

http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263

It was echoed onto this group here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/message/5624

I posted the retraction here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/message/5637

In all subsequent messages relating to this particular post, I have

made it clear it was originally a joke.

Since then, some people have reported it really is possible to loose

weight with frequencies, something I did not know about back in 2003.

This was discussed mainly on the Rife Forum and I put together a

serious post where I suggested we could try this out.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/message/23094

It was then mwmicron who then reposted my old joke and I added a

comment at the bottom of that message that he had quoted from the

April fool's joke.

Until now, no further comments have been posted here.

In Germany, a group of practitioners are testing these frequencies

(the serious ones, the joke did not give any frequencies) and this

was discussed at the Rife Congress a couple of weeks ago.

I was a little surprised that virtually nobody here responded to the

serios idea of testing these frequencies collectively. Maybe you guys

are all slim and I am the only one who could loose a few pounds...

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Now we have resolved that one, lets move onto your comments about the

Ergonom.

> Odd that your worried about its 'suppression', yet the

> fraudulent 'Ergonom' is completely safe, which in my opinion is a

> greater threat, than a weight loss machine, competing with the

Atkin's

> diet.

I am sorry but calling the Ergonom " fraudulent " or a " scam " is just

not acceptable. We have over 30 thousand high resolution images and

hundreds of hours of video footage on file which confirm the

abilities of the Ergonom. The microscope is available for you and/or

your sceptical colleages to test for themselves. As you are in the

UK, there are plenty of cheap flights to Germany (furt) so this

can hardly be the issue. You have since admitted your knowledge of

microscopes is limited and I considered the issue resolved (no pun

intended).

You recently posted:

> I apologise if I am in the wrong. This information is conflicting

> with alot of what I am being taught at med school. I will hold you

> to your word, , and will come and see you and the

> microscope when the next rife conference is held in Germany, I

> believe a year from now.

What is it about the Ergonom that is conflicting with your medical

training, the resolution abilities or the fact that the Ergonom can

confirm pleomorphism, which I agree does conflict with medical dogma.

Conventional optical microscopes cannot resolve well enough to

confirm pleomorphism and scaning electron microscopes only view dead

matter. The Ergonom can show the entire process in living unstained

samples in vitro and I suspect this is your problen as it is contary

to established medical training.

There are several types of high power optical microscopes that can

resolve enough to show pleomorphism (e.g. Bradford, Naessons, Rife,

, Ergonom) and ALL the makers of these microscopes have

independantly confirmed pleomorphism. Is this your issue?

We have released a film on the subject both online and on DVD:

http://www.grayfieldoptical.com/symbiosis_or_parasitism.html

There is an excellent German language book on the subject that is

unfortunately out of print, but I know that there are now plans to

rerelease this book, possibly in an English translation.

Pleomorphismus

Blutsymbionten, Blutparasiten, Blutpilze

Dr. med.Jost Dumrese / Bruno Haefeli, Published by Haug Verlag

ISBN 3-7760-1521-7

I have a copy of this book here and it features many images from the

Ergonom microscope. An excerpt can be downloaded here:

http://www.grayfieldoptical.com/files/olbrich-all.pdf

A translation of Kurt Olbrich's exact measurements of the pleomorphic

phases of the cancer causing pathogen can be found here:

http://www.grayfieldoptical.com/files/sanguinogramm.pdf

So please let us move this into a serious discussion on where your

medical training conflicts with your ability to accept the Ergonom.

Regards

>

> 'The exact frequencies have been determined that will selectivly

> destroy fat cells, which then get flushed out of your body via

> urination.'

>

> I'm sceptical of such claims, how exactly, scientifically can fat

cell

> pass the Renal Capsule? How does fat 'get flushed out of yout body

via

> urination'. This is complete quackery, a College Biology student

can

> see through this nonsense. Why not support such claims with a

> scientific theory, since evidence is too difficult to produce.

>

>

> 'a loss of weight as high as 400 gram/day.'

>

> My, my, If this were the case, you would be the next

> multi-millionaire, every single American and self-concious women

are

> going to want one of these machines, its easily, quick

> at '400gram/day', why bother with a gym membership or moving a

muscle?

>

> Odd that your worried about its 'suppression', yet the

> fraudulent 'Ergonom' is completely safe, which in my opinion is a

> greater threat, than a weight loss machine, competing with the

Atkin's

> diet.

>

> Sorry for the sceptical tone guys, or wake-up call, stop being so

> credulous, just because the story of Rife technology was a

conspiracy,

> which I agree with; We should not fall to such quackery, even Dr.

Rife

> had a theory of how the pathogens devitalised, by 'Resonant

> Frequencies' confirmed by Physics.

>

[Guest guest]

Well , you claim on that video on grayfield optics, that

the Ergonom microscopes are in use by certain labs, may I ask which

one's? Further, has this microscope been independantly, third party

tested to confirm your extraordinary claims of 100nm resolution, and

25,000x Magnification.

GrayField Optics is the strangest company on Earth, you have to go

to the place yourself to verify the claims? this is absurd.

It seems very selfish for such an alleged invention which can

advance computer science/microchip technology development and

Medicine, is kept from the scientific community, yet the only

audience you are aiming this at are Maverick Rife Researchers, who

I'm guessing cannot afford such an expensive microscope, this can

easily be purchased by Hosptials, clinics everywhere, if what you

say be true, that Cancer can be detected 2 years prior to its

occurance, this microscope at the price, will be selling like hot

cakes, especially in Germany whereby alternative medicine is popular

and thriving, and in the clinics in Mexico.

Do you selectively choose who can purchase such a microscope? or can

anyone with the funds purchase this?, if the later, than why the

lack of 3rd party verification, publications in peer-reviewed

jorunals ect.

Your stance, is contradictory, and illogical. All the hormarks of a

fraudalent campaign/company.

[Guest guest]

Well in order to prevent confusion for people looking through archived

data, you should have deleted this 'joke', it certainly caused

confusion on my part, and I imagine anyone who visits this group.

Why did you not state on that specific thread that it was a 'joke'?

[Guest guest]

>

> Well in order to prevent confusion for people looking through

archived

> data, you should have deleted this 'joke', it certainly caused

> confusion on my part, and I imagine anyone who visits this group.

>

> Why did you not state on that specific thread that it was a 'joke'?

>

As can be seen on the message, it was simply echoed here from the

original thread on the Rife Forum.

http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263

The retraction was made in the same thread there, but due to technical

reasons, this Yahoogroup did not recognise the reply was from the same

thread. I have no control over the way Yahoogroups recognises threads

and Yahoogroups are primarily designed as just one long list of

messages.

You are the first person to have reported being confused by this.

When " mwmicron " replied to my original joke message recently, I added a

suitable comment at the end:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/message/23097

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NOTE FROM MODERATOR: The quoted text is the original April Fool's

post and should not be taken seriously, as written.

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Deleting the original message would cause confusion from those wanting

to read an intact archive. Either way is not a perfect solution so I

decided to leave it as it is.

By now, the last person here will have understood the backgroud of this

very old post.

Regards

Moderator