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Yup! After the DTaP my son got a high fever and persistent diarrhea

with mucus in it. I think that this shot is the one that did him in.

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> When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap that

he

> became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. Has

anyone

> a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc

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Yep, and I just made this connection this past week, I noticed since

the second/third dose (booster)with MMR he has had his 'whooping cough'

after each cold he has had...I know the vaccine company states is

a 'dead' virus..but I know this is what put my over the top...

now if I could just finish getting some proof together...

Anyone on the vaccine court waiting list? I mean, who has an attorney

and has filed paperwork, if you have please send me some attny info, I

am looking for specialist attny's here, especially in this area...Its

time for me to stop sitting around and contemplating and time for me to

stand up and get my voice heard and justice for my boys!

Thanks!

Angie

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> When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap that

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> a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc

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When is the first DTap supposed to be administered? My son got his

first at 3 months old, second at 5 months, third at 7 months and fourth

at 1 yr old, when he also received FIVE other shots included MMR, Hib,

Hep A, Varicella, and Pneumococcal. I can't believe he received a

total of SIX shots at 1 yr of age! We moved and switched

pediatricians, which delayed some of the shots and they did it all at 1

yr old. No one bother to tell us to space them apart... and we are mad

at ourselves that we didn't know better and let it happen.

I think my son was affected at birth from the Hep B, as he his eye

contact and social engagement wasn't great, but he was a happy, smiley

child, who hit his gross motor milestones on time. Walked at 11

months. Was babbling mama, etc. But at 13/14 months, we noticed

absolute silence. He started having sleep issues around that time,

waking up in crying fits.

How can we prove that it was the vaccines that caused this? We don't

have medical documentation as we listened to the advice nurse and gave

him Tylenol. None of his " issues " were documented as related to

vaccine injury. How can we pursue a lawsuit if we can substantiate

proof, other than just what is on his immunization record??

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> When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap that

he

> became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. Has

anyone

> a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc

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National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. It will tell you everything you need to do to file. You can file pro se-that is, by yourself without legal cousel. maurinelvtoeat2 wrote: When is the first DTap supposed to be administered? My son got his first at 3 months old, second at 5 months, third at 7 months and fourth at 1 yr old, when he also received FIVE other shots included MMR, Hib, Hep A, Varicella, and Pneumococcal. I can't believe he received a total of SIX

shots at 1 yr of age! We moved and switched pediatricians, which delayed some of the shots and they did it all at 1 yr old. No one bother to tell us to space them apart... and we are mad at ourselves that we didn't know better and let it happen.I think my son was affected at birth from the Hep B, as he his eye contact and social engagement wasn't great, but he was a happy, smiley child, who hit his gross motor milestones on time. Walked at 11 months. Was babbling mama, etc. But at 13/14 months, we noticed absolute silence. He started having sleep issues around that time, waking up in crying fits. How can we prove that it was the vaccines that caused this? We don't have medical documentation as we listened to the advice nurse and gave him Tylenol. None of his "issues" were documented as related to vaccine injury. How can we pursue a lawsuit if we can substantiate proof, other than just what is on his

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YES! My son received his DTaP, Hib, IPV and the pneumocaccol on 9-8-

03. Within 2 weeks he developed an ear infection and respiratory

infection that would not go away and kept getting worse. On 10-13 he

was hospitalized with bronchiolitis and was diagnosed with asthma.

From that point on he was chronically ill with his asthma, upper

respiratory infection, and ear infections. His first 2 years of life

were a steady stream of oral steroids, antibiotics, pulmicort and

albuteral. Kind of makes you suspicious, hmmm?

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> When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap that

he

> became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. Has

anyone

> a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc

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-OMG ! He had the diarrhea too, then he had blood in it shortly after

and the mucous, we had a colyn polyp removed.-- In

mb12 valtrex , " jenniferreif1 " wrote:

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> Yup! After the DTaP my son got a high fever and persistent diarrhea

> with mucus in it. I think that this shot is the one that did him in.

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> > became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. Has

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> > a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc

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Does the DTaP contain mercury if it is NOT the Daptacel ?(DAPTACEL

does not;my son had 4 doses and only the 4th dose was marked DAPTACEL

on the chart. I know Tetanus has mercury, isn't the " T " in DTaP -

tetanus? I think it may only be 0.3 % though...

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What are you to do if you missed the 3 year window. We have missed

it by 4 months.

That's the way it goes, I finally get my husband to believe it was

vaccine induced (well the media got him to believe) and now its too

late. :)

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What I don't get is why do you have just three years to file. This

diagnosis takes over your whole world, by the time you are able to put

two and two together the statute of limitation has ran out, which is

what happened to Mickie.

The Poling's daughter is nine! Why was she compensated this late and

other can't. Is there any way around this?

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Wow! Now that you mention it, we had the blood in his stool too. Ugh!

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Zurama, the rules may change I would still file if I were you. I

agree that it is so hard to put the info together and you have

medical folks telling you to give it another year wait etc.....

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Yeah.....I shouldn't be surprised.....

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I've been reading this thread.... my son developed Croup after DTaP. And then

when we

got to the ER, he got the typical treatment of steroids w/ nebulizer... This

was all before

we realized what was happening. He was around 18 months. He had had the 15 mos

MMR and group of shots. The flu shot and others w/ the DTaP at 18 mos In a

matter of

weeks we say language and self help skills diminish... yet he had been

developing

normally the same as the original post described...

Anyway, it is so scary to read someone else's story and remember the exact same

thing is

happening to so many other people..

The reason I posted was we filed w/ the vaccine court just this fall. You have

three years

from the ONSET of symptoms. If you have any trip to the doc in which you

question

development after the shot, that can be a starting point. Do you have anything?

How old

is your child? Mine is now 4.5 and first " recorded " problem (that is on paper

w/ doc's

office) was at 24 months when doc sent us to local child find for evaluation

(county

service through the school system)

I hope this is helpful. Since i don't know where you are on the timeline. If

you haven't

gone to doc to document, and it is still w/in three years of the vaccination,

you can at

least file.... we are using an attorney.

Good luck, and God Bless!

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Our son had 2 DTaP shots by accident at 9 months old along with his other shots. We left the practice shortly after. His med.record had no record of my 3 phone calls that day.. about how he cried for 4 hours. Our whole family realized withing a month he was a totally different child, but we did not have any physical symptoms. By a year he was very far behind when at 9 months he was ahead in so many milestones.

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I've been reading this thread.... my son developed Croup after DTaP. And then when we got to the ER, he got the typical treatment of steroids w/ nebulizer... This was all before we realized what was happening. He was around 18 months. He had had the 15 mos MMR and group of shots. The flu shot and others w/ the DTaP at 18 mos In a matter of weeks we say language and self help skills diminish... yet he had been developing normally the same as the original post described...Anyway, it is so scary to read someone else's story and remember the exact same thing is happening to so many other people..The reason I posted was we filed w/ the vaccine court just this fall. You have three years from the ONSET of symptoms. If you have any trip to the doc in which you question development after the shot, that can be a starting point. Do you have anything? How old is your child? Mine is now 4.5 and first "recorded"

problem (that is on paper w/ doc's office) was at 24 months when doc sent us to local child find for evaluation (county service through the school system)I hope this is helpful. Since i don't know where you are on the timeline. If you haven't gone to doc to document, and it is still w/in three years of the vaccination, you can at least file.... we are using an attorney.Good luck, and God Bless!> > > > > >> > > > > > When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap > > > > that > > > > > he > > > > > > became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. > > > Has > > > > > anyone > > > > > > a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> >

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- That really really stinks. I'm suspect of vaccines too, but don't have a smoking gun like you do. Wow.

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I've been reading this thread.... my son developed Croup after DTaP. And then when we got to the ER, he got the typical treatment of steroids w/ nebulizer... This was all before we realized what was happening. He was around 18 months. He had had the 15 mos MMR and group of shots. The flu shot and others w/ the DTaP at 18 mos In a matter of weeks we say language and self help skills diminish... yet he had been developing normally the same as the original post described...Anyway, it is so scary to read someone else's story and remember the exact same thing is happening to so many other people..The reason I posted was we filed w/ the vaccine court just this fall. You have three years from the ONSET of symptoms. If you have any trip to the doc in which you question development after the shot, that can be a starting point. Do you have anything? How old is your child? Mine is now 4.5 and first "recorded" problem (that is on paper w/ doc's office) was at 24 months when doc sent us to local child find for evaluation (county service through the school system)I hope this is helpful. Since i don't know where you are on the timeline. If you haven't gone to doc to document, and it is still w/in three years of the vaccination, you can at least file.... we are using an attorney.Good luck, and God Bless!> > > > > >> > > > > > When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap > > > > that > > > > > he > > > > > > became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. > > > Has > > > > > anyone > > > > > > a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now.> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.>

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I still believe that it is unfair and deeply dishonest to demand of the parent that they "Realise or become convinced" that vaccines had become a major factor in the child's illness.Going as far as suspecting is OK.  Then, in a logical and literate society, ruled by law:  it becomes reasonable to find one of the 50 or 100 doctors in the whole country who are beginning to understand the issue;  ask for advice from 3 of those doctors, if it does not break the bank 3 times:  including careful testing.  You probably have not done that yet, so the window has not yet opened and you should have 3 years to go. Or something;  depending on other sets of limitations...?Most of it depends upon sharpening the nib of your quill:  dotting i's & crossing t's precisely.  Interesting game; although it is not a game at all.  Don't the law firms that help negotiations with schools help with this, too ?  If they worked with 50 or 100 applications together it should be economical ?  Or doesn't it work that way...?You may want to ask yourself 'when did I first realize/become convinced[realy 2 separate ?] that vaccines had been a major factor in my child's illness?' If you are within the 'window' with your answer, you may want to file. > > >> > > When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap > that > > he > > > became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. Has > > anyone > > > a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc> > >> > 

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Sometimes lawyers mention that the courts require proof, or absolute proof.  That is a misrepresentation as close to a lie as they dare tell.The courts require evidence:  then they, in their great wisdom, decide if the weight of evidence amounts to reasonable proof.  If you had proof already you would not need to go to court and the whole system would go out of business.So set about writing up, or videoing and photographing all your evidence.  Get it verified as far as is reasonable.How do the rest of us see that problem.  You must have guessed that I'm not a lawyer.National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.  It will tell you everything you need to do to file. You can file pro se-that is, by yourself without legal cousel. maurinelvtoeat2 <lvtoeat2> wrote:When is the first DTap supposed to be administered? My son got his first at 3 months old, second at 5 months, third at 7 months and fourth at 1 yr old, when he also received FIVE other shots included MMR, Hib, Hep A, Varicella, and Pneumococcal. I can't believe he received a total of SIX shots at 1 yr of age! We moved and switched pediatricians, which delayed some of the shots and they did it all at 1 yr old. No one bother to tell us to space them apart... and we are mad at ourselves that we didn't know better and let it happen.I think my son was affected at birth from the Hep B, as he his eye contact and social engagement wasn't great, but he was a happy, smiley child, who hit his gross motor milestones on time. Walked at 11 months. Was babbling mama, etc. But at 13/14 months, we noticed absolute silence. He started having sleep issues around that time, waking up in crying fits. How can we prove that it was the vaccines that caused this? We don't have medical documentation as we listened to the advice nurse and gave him Tylenol. None of his "issues" were documented as related to vaccine injury. How can we pursue a lawsuit if we can substantiate proof, other than just what is on his immunization record??>> When i look at my sons med records, it was right fter the DTap that he > became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and it never ended. Has anyone > a similar experience? High white count, meds, antibiotics, etc>

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If you believe your pediatrician, you don't notice anything...It is all so vague that it is hardly law at all.  Perhaps that is why it is so easy to apply;  you are being invited to make mistakes ?according to the courts-it's when you noticed the first symptoms(but of course that can be subject to interpretation) of a disorder that was later diagnosed as autism.  Realizing something about vaccines doesn't factor into it.Maurinembrookh <mbrookh> wrote:You may want to ask yourself 'when did I first realize/become convinced[realy 2 separate ?] that vaccines had been a major factor in my child's illness?' If you are within the 'window' with your answer, you may want to file. > >> > National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. It will tell you > everything you need to do to file. You can file pro se-that is, by > yourself without legal cousel.> > > > maurine> > 

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to file you dont need an attorney and all the Short

Form asks for is the date of the vaccine you allege is

the problem (or various dates I guess).

The Statute of Limitation issue comes up when the

Gov't tries to get your claim dismissed.

Whether your case meets or doesn't meet it depends on

what is in your documentation.

--- Wade wrote:

> I still believe that it is unfair and deeply

> dishonest to demand of

> the parent that they " Realise or become convinced "

> that vaccines had

> become a major factor in the child's illness.

>

> Going as far as suspecting is OK. Then, in a

> logical and literate

> society, ruled by law: it becomes reasonable to

> find one of the 50

> or 100 doctors in the whole country who are

> beginning to understand

> the issue; ask for advice from 3 of those doctors,

> if it does not

> break the bank 3 times: including careful testing.

> You probably

> have not done that yet, so the window has not yet

> opened and you

> should have 3 years to go. Or something; depending

> on other sets of

> limitations...?

>

> Most of it depends upon sharpening the nib of your

> quill: dotting

> i's & crossing t's precisely. Interesting game;

> although it is not a

> game at all. Don't the law firms that help

> negotiations with schools

> help with this, too ? If they worked with 50 or 100

> applications

> together it should be economical ? Or doesn't it

> work that way...?

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> > You may want to ask yourself 'when did I first

> realize/become

> > convinced[realy 2 separate ?] that vaccines had

> been a major factor

> > in my child's illness?' If you are within the

> 'window' with your

> > answer, you may want to file.

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> > > > > When i look at my sons med records, it was

> right fter the DTap

> > > that

> > > > he

> > > > > became ill-coughing, congestion, asthma, and

> it never ended.

> > Has

> > > > anyone

> > > > > a similar experience? High white count,

> meds, antibiotics, etc

> > > > >

> > > >

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article about statute oflimitation from attys'

http://www.shoemakerassociates.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=\

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& Itemid=29

article has a link to a case that was recently

decided, and considers whether the SOL was based on

symptoms, or date of autism diagnosis

--- Wade wrote:

> If you believe your pediatrician, you don't notice

> anything...

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> It is all so vague that it is hardly law at all.

> Perhaps that is why

> it is so easy to apply; you are being invited to

> make mistakes ?

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> > according to the courts-it's when you noticed the

> first symptoms

> > (but of course that can be subject to

> interpretation) of a disorder

> > that was later diagnosed as autism. Realizing

> something about

> > vaccines doesn't factor into it.

> > Maurine

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> > mbrookh wrote:

> > You may want to ask yourself 'when did I first

> realize/become

> > convinced[realy 2 separate ?] that vaccines had

> been a major factor

> > in my child's illness?' If you are within the

> 'window' with your

> > answer, you may want to file.

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

> It will tell you

> > > everything you need to do to file. You can file

> pro se-that is, by

> > > yourself without legal cousel.

> > > >

> > > > maurine

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With damage from vaccines, you cannot file 3 years from date of discovery....it is three years from date of injury.I too was 4 months too late. My son wasn't diagnosed until 3 1/2 yrs old.I told Judd Gregg (senator of nh) years ago that I don't want to sue anybody. What I want is for the government to pay for every treatment, therapy, medical bill, vitamin and food my son has to take for the rest of his life.

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"...we hold that 'the first symptom or manifestation of onset,' for the purposes of 300aa-16(a)(2), is the first event objectively recognizable as a sign of a vaccine injury by the medical profession at large."The concept is not what the chile or the parents thought, but the first event recognisable ....  by the medical profession at large;  if I read it rightly.Does not seem to depend on what a specialist might have thought ?  It seems to be the point at which a GP or Ped would have referred the child to a specialist, or when the specialist gave an opinion.  Hindsight does not seem to be a requirement.  Shoemaker seem to have their heads firmly on their shoulders.What do they charge.  Do they take cases on speculation ?  I don't believe that American parents should be deciding when the window opens or closes:  they should be going to firms like Shoemaker and talking it over, or emailing as a preliminary.  Is at least the first 30 minutes free ?  What reputation do Shoemaker and other firms have ?  Ahh, they helped the Polings.They do explain how to go about it,  but most of us don't have experience here.I diagnosed myself with the ARI check sheet 4 years ago.  If I lived in the States I don't think the window would have opened yet:  first I'd need to go to CARD and ask for an assessment.  If the registered psych pronounced me Asperger's, that would be the time at which the window would open for me.  Of course I might be too old or some other nonsense.  But I wouldn't decide all that for myself:  I'd email Shoemaker and ask them for their opinion:  Oh !  They seem to be referring us on to lists of lawyers who are taking new cases...  Ah well...article about statute oflimitation from attys'http://www.shoemakerassociates.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=68:information-for-someone-who-thinks-their-child-developed-autism-from-vaccines & Itemid=29article has a link to a case that was recentlydecided, and considers whether the SOL was based onsymptoms, or date of autism diagnosis --- Wade <georgewadeshaw (DOT) ca> wrote:> If you believe your pediatrician, you don't notice> anything...> > It is all so vague that it is hardly law at all. > Perhaps that is why > it is so easy to apply; you are being invited to> make mistakes ?> > > > > > > > >> > according to the courts-it's when you noticed the> first symptoms > > (but of course that can be subject to> interpretation) of a disorder > > that was later diagnosed as autism. Realizing> something about > > vaccines doesn't factor into it.> > Maurine> >> > mbrookh <mbrookh> wrote:> > You may want to ask yourself 'when did I first> realize/become> > convinced[realy 2 separate ?] that vaccines had> been a major factor> > in my child's illness?' If you are within the> 'window' with your> > answer, you may want to file. > >> > > > >> > > What are you to do if you missed the 3 year> window. We have> > missed> > > it by 4 months.> > >

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