Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I tore my right knee meniscus some years back. I regretted having surgery for a looong time becuase it just didn't feel right after the surgery. Loose, unpredictable, locking, sore, weak etc...So I suspect at this point the surgery was about ten years ago. Not until I cleaned up my diet and stopped babying the knee did the constant reminders of the aches disappear. So my advice is to exercise and strengthen the knee and to eat foods that are right. When I eat bad and my joints swell and ache so does my knee. Other than the scars my knee is almost as good as new. Pam --------------------------------------------------- > thanks, rik > > PS: for now i keep an eye on my knee and do not over use it. i can > do just about anything with it, just not bend it to far. i guess > easy does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 hi pam, it took me about half a year to normaly walk again, with a limp after surgery. it could still feel it after 2 years. i have been working with it and not had any trouble till i tore it again. i certainly don't baby it, i just take care i don't funk it up in a bad way. this is how i hurt it the second time, i forgot about it and overstrained it again....... i hated the surgery and had a scare going to sleep on the table, i was had such a pain in my head, but wasn't able to do anything while i went out.........zzzzzzzzzz. no problems afterwards, but it surley scared me. let's see if i can make it better. toodles, rik > I tore my right knee meniscus some years back. I regretted having > surgery for a looong time becuase it just didn't feel right after > the surgery. Loose, unpredictable, locking, sore, weak etc...So I > suspect at this point the surgery was about ten years ago. Not > until I cleaned up my diet and stopped babying the knee did the > constant reminders of the aches disappear. So my advice is to > exercise and strengthen the knee and to eat foods that are right. > When I eat bad and my joints swell and ache so does my knee. Other > than the scars my knee is almost as good as new. > Pam > --------------------------------------------------- > > > thanks, rik > > > > PS: for now i keep an eye on my knee and do not over use it. i > can > > do just about anything with it, just not bend it to far. i guess > > easy does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Rik wrote: > hi, > i am feeling a bit silly about asking about this one, but here is > goes. (I must know) > about 3 years ago, i had my meniscus operated on. the doc who was > going to cut it out, noticed that it was torn on the bloodline and > decided to go for it and stappled it back together. he told me i > was a lucky guy. so i'm all happy and recovery was long but it > worked fine. this summer i ripped it again,( i think) same feeling, > same pain, same locking up of the knee. i know how to UN lock it, > but that doesn't feel too good and i hate the thought of doing this > over and over............i haven't been diagnosed what the real > dammage is, but it feels the same as before, but this time i van > still use it and run walk with it. it just feels lose in the knee > joint, when i make a certain move or when i wiggle it. you migh say, > well, don't wiggle it, but i'm a wiggly kinda guy (O; (joke)anyhoo, > i heard and read that this meniscus tissue is not living... it can > not repair itself. being on these groups, i noticed that a lot of > things can heal itself! so my question is, can it? and then, how? > i'm massaging it with deep tissue repair oil at the moment, while > i'm treating my sore back. any information would be appreciated, > thanks, rik > > PS: for now i keep an eye on my knee and do not over use it. i can > do just about anything with it, just not bend it to far. i guess > easy does it. ================================= Hi Rik, I see you have received some good advice on this one so I won't belabor you too longl ;-) Cartilage does not have a blood supply going to it. This is why they tell you it can't heal. However, they do know that it can. It takes quite some time though. Bones take quite some time to heal too but they have their own blood supply. So what you need to do is make certain that you are giving your body everything it needs to effect this healing. That means lots of fresh vegetables/vegetable juices, fresh fruits and fruit juices, Organic lemon, organic iron, super nutrition, MSM, Vitmin C. with bioflavonoids, Vitamin E, Vitmain A, B-complex, BF & C internally/externally, exercising the knee, hot/cold therapy on the knee, DMSO and DTRO or, better than DTRO, my new liniment that I am about to go public with. (Be looking for it in the files). Also glucosamine and chondroiton taken with the MSM and Vit. C would be good combination and very effective. Your body is a dynamic living thing and cartilage will repair itself given the proper nutrients. The chondroclasts will remove the dead tissue or torn tissues and the chondroblasts will lay down new tissue. This is going to take time, like I mentioned above, cartilage does not have its own blood supply. This makes healing of the tissue much slower. You are not going to want to overdo the knee and risk further damage. Do some extended juice fasting too or jump into a total body cleanse. Peace be with you Rik. -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Rik wrote: > hi knee folks! > > yes, aren't they fun (O; well, you have to tel me what all these > codes are ........DTRO... BF & C with DMSO external and BF & C > internal. it think i figured out the deep tissue repair oil..... > the rest is chinese to me. i do cleanses, eat well, walk/run ride my > bicycle every day (5 times a week) use the oil, msn and starting the > dmso, been doing hot and cold showers, but might start to do it > locally on the knee more often. i love those hot and cold showers > btw. i will get busy on that one too....... looks like the healthier > i get, the more i start falling apart (O; ha ha. i feel great > though, just a bit too much bad luck lately. thanks, rikio ======================================= Hey Rik, DTRO = Deep Tissue Repair Oil BF & C = Bone, Flesh & Cartilage (can be made into a salve or used as a poultice externally) (use in caps, tincture or tea internally) DMSO = Dimethyl sulfoxide -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I get my DMSO from http://www.jacoblab.com/ And don't worry about it being in plastic... this is pharmacutical plastic which is lighter than the DMSO and therefore will not leach into the DMSO... Dr. Stanley and his son are experts in the field of DMSO and I've talked to both.. You can call them and chat with them also if you have questions. Both are lovely people Suzi Elliott <eliz3378@...> wrote: I think I may have a meniscus problem actually. Do those of you who have this problem still run? I desperately want to run again, and dont' want surgery. My chiro says it is a pretty effective surgery, but he is a little more mainstream than I> I was acutally considering it for a moment. What is DMSO?? I obviously need to get on some MSM?? Where again do you getyours Suzi?? I guess i need to look up the Deep tisse Repai oil, and need to get on with the hot/cold showers?/ Suzi, d o you run now/? Elliotteliz3378@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik health Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 12:05 AM Subject: Re: meniscus hi pam,it took me about half a year to normaly walk again, with a limp after surgery. it could still feel it after 2 years. i have been working with it and not had any trouble till i tore it again. i certainly don't baby it, i just take care i don't funk it up in a bad way. this is how i hurt it the second time, i forgot about it and overstrained it again....... i hated the surgery and had a scare going to sleep on the table, i was had such a pain in my head, but wasn't able to do anything while i went out.........zzzzzzzzzz. no problems afterwards, but it surley scared me. let's see if i can make it better. toodles, rik> I tore my right knee meniscus some years back. I regretted having > surgery for a looong time becuase it just didn't feel right after > the surgery. Loose, unpredictable, locking, sore, weak etc...So I > suspect at this point the surgery was about ten years ago. Not > until I cleaned up my diet and stopped babying the knee did the > constant reminders of the aches disappear. So my advice is to > exercise and strengthen the knee and to eat foods that are right. > When I eat bad and my joints swell and ache so does my knee. Other > than the scars my knee is almost as good as new.> Pam> ---------------------------------------------------> > > thanks, rik> > > > PS: for now i keep an eye on my knee and do not over use it. i > can > > do just about anything with it, just not bend it to far. i guess > > easy does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I don't run per say.... but when I have to... I DO. SuziMorningGlory113@... wrote: I think I may have a meniscus problem actually. Do those of you who have this problem still run?I had a meniscus operation about 10 years ago. I've had no problems with the knee since, but the Dr. told me to avoid running on hard surfaces. I'm not a runner so that isn't a problem. But I remember him telling me that.Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 MorningGlory113@... wrote: > >> >> I think I may have a meniscus problem actually. Do those of you who >> have this problem still run? > > > > I had a meniscus operation about 10 years ago. I've had no problems > with the knee since, but the Dr. told me to avoid running on hard > surfaces. I'm not a runner so that isn't a problem. But I remember him > telling me that. > > Gloria > > ========================== A person should never run on any hard surface ever. It is too hard on the joints and bones. Running on dirt, grass or sand that has give is best to run on. Running on cement, well you might as well take a hammer and pound on your knees. There is no give to cement and very, very little give to asphalt. -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Rik wrote: > i totally agree! > > i always run on grass. when i started running again some time back, > i ran on the sidewalks and street. it is doen't feel good and my > shoes make that plopping sound,like a running duck with frozen feet > (O; ha ha. anyhoo, i usually go for a 1/2 hour bike ride to warm up > and run or walk in a park. i found this school with an athletic > track. at around 4pm no one is there, and this is where i am > planning to go in the future. the track's surface is rubber. reminds > me of my younger days.........track and feeld guy, sprinter, > polefaulter (O: ah, what fun! thanks for all the answers guys! i > love being on this great group!! have a great day! rik ========================== Thanks Rik for the duck with frozen feet scenariol. LOL I needed a good laugh and you supplied it. Thanks mi amigo. -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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