Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 I do not know much about homeopathy but I do know this much, anytime anyone tries to tell you that the only way to do something is their way, you should run the other direction. And this is regardless of whether they are right in what they can do. If you don't run (which isn't always necessary, of course), you should always keep this in mind: There is no "one way" to do anything. Antivirals do no push the viruses back into cells, it inhibits the replication of viruses. No, it doesn't kill viruses directly so in that respect, the homeopath is right. But he's wrong on what it does do at the best of my current knowledge.I know there are several people on this board that have had great success with homeopathy so I don't discount it. Just don't ever let yourself get trapped into a narrow tunnel of thinking. *You* have to do your own research and decide for yourself if something is worth trying or not or if you believe something has merit or not. Alternative medicine isn't easy to navigate. It's especially hard when all the different modes are fighting against each other. I would suggest you tell that homeopath to open his mind up a bit and *learn* about what he obviously doesn't understand before spewing rhetoric of his own methods teachings. It's a method he isn't at all familiar enough with to be saying anything like that and that's what scares me the most about people like that. Instead of just saying he doesn't know anything about it or enough about it, he just immediately dismisses it. It sounds pretty familiar when you look at it in terms of how many traditional medicine MD's say the same thing about DAN, NIDS, Yasko and yes, homeopathy. Everyone else is wrong and they are right. I would have more respect from someone like this if I knew that they had done a lot of research and understood the drugs they were talking about and *then* made their decision. To me, it doesn't seem like this person did because what I've learned of antivirals and viruses is *not* the same thing as what he's telling you. Viruses are cell invaders. They're already in cells. You can't push them in any further than they already are. They are parasites, that's how they work, they invade a healthy host cell, take over it's reproductive machinery and replicate themselves creating mutations to become drug resistant. Exactly how much more "into the cells" does he think they can go? That's really the most ridiculous explanation that I've ever heard since they start in the cells to begin with.He's just one homeopath. Not all homeopaths are like that at all. Dr. West is a homeopath and she uses both traditional, DAN, Yasko and Homeopathic approaches. Seriously, there are more open minded homeopaths out there than this one. CherylHello Everyone I am new on this list. My son is 5.5yo and has been doing OLE for a ~6months among other supplements. Apparently there were slow gains in expressive speech which I didnt attribute to OLE. I had to stop his supplements for a week to do some tests. I am adding back supplements one at a time at this point and the one remaining still is OLE. I notice his expressive speech has reduced significantly now. He is still speaking, but not as much as he was before stopping the OLE. Of course I am adding the OLE back next. Question is what impact stopping OLE has on virus.1) Does virus multiply like crazy when OLE is dropped?2) Do I have to start from square one ie. add 1 drop OLE at a time or can I start where I left off (3caps/day). I also plan to start Valtrex soon.3) Are there any issues with starting Valtrex while on OLE?4) the Homeopaths say that Valtrex suppresses the virus and "pushes it into the cells" and does not "kill" the virus. Only the homeopathic vaccine remedies "pull the virus out of the cells" and truly "kills" the virus. Sounds vague, but I just want to get info from everywhere and keep an open mind. Any evidence that this homeopathic "explanation" is true? Has Stan studied homeopathic remedies as anti viral treatments / opinions? ThanksShanthi Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Dr de Bono has written a whole book entitled "I Am Right: You Are Wrong" about this crippled, feudal approach to what I believe is control centred thinking.He has also written "Parallel Thinking" & "Six Hat Thinking:" which are more productive and positive: without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Critical Thinking is retained as a means of not spending too much time or money on impractical; illegal or immoral ventures. It is best used to recycle mistaken thinking so that anything of value is retained while tossing out the mistaken portions.I do not know much about homeopathy but I do know this much, anytime anyone tries to tell you that the only way to do something is their way, you should run the other direction. And this is regardless of whether they are right in what they can do. If you don't run (which isn't always necessary, of course), you should always keep this in mind: There is no "one way" to do anything..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 There are probably communication issues at play here. All homeopaths think allopathic drugs are suppressive and I agree with that thought. Extrapolating it to say that the virus gets pushed into cells, unsure. Again homeopathy will not " kill " a virus as I understand it, nothing ever kills a virus - but yes you can enable a body to fight it off. As per Yasko you can see it leave the body by virtue of dark urines provided you have adequate methylation support going to achieve that. I think there are semantics at play here rather than an issue with the system of medicine. Gayatri > > > > > Hello Everyone > > > > I am new on this list. My son is 5.5yo and has been doing OLE for a > > ~6months among other supplements. Apparently there were slow gains > > in expressive speech which I didnt attribute to OLE. > > > > I had to stop his supplements for a week to do some tests. I am > > adding back supplements one at a time at this point and the one > > remaining still is OLE. I notice his expressive speech has reduced > > significantly now. He is still speaking, but not as much as he was > > before stopping the OLE. > > > > Of course I am adding the OLE back next. > > > > Question is what impact stopping OLE has on virus. > > 1) Does virus multiply like crazy when OLE is dropped? > > 2) Do I have to start from square one ie. add 1 drop OLE at a time > > or can I start where I left off (3caps/day). > > > > I also plan to start Valtrex soon. > > 3) Are there any issues with starting Valtrex while on OLE? > > 4) the Homeopaths say that Valtrex suppresses the virus and " pushes > > it into the cells " and does not " kill " the virus. Only the > > homeopathic vaccine remedies " pull the virus out of the cells " and > > truly " kills " the virus. Sounds vague, but I just want to get info > > from everywhere and keep an open mind. Any evidence that this > > homeopathic " explanation " is true? Has Stan studied homeopathic > > remedies as anti viral treatments / opinions? > > > > Thanks > > Shanthi > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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