Gruner Circuit

April 13, 2008

Do I have this straight.

1 Variable Hartley RF oscillator, which is set to produce

the difference freqency MOR between itself and the fixed

RF Hartley oscillator.

2 Fixed approximate 1300HZ oscillator which impulse excites the

fixed Hartley, to produce an impulsed excited damped RF carrier.

This then produces the MOR approximately 1300 times a second.

From mainstream science the only biological effect of the damping

portion of a wave is to produce heat.

If we assume that this is correct then it is the impulse or first

part of the gating wave that is important.

From the current historical evedience the #4 only produced one

frequency at a time unless the pathogen needed two.

From the Gruner circuit it might be assumed that the #4 also

used fixed gating/impulse excited damped RF, of the MOR.

The essence of what this boils down to is a high power variable Rf

frequency, tube type Oscilloclast. Rife took the Oscilloclast whether

tube or Hoffman/Abrams dead beat oscillator a few steps

further.

One question I would have about the Gruner circiut is the

60 Hz ripple left in or filtered out.

Old Mike

April 14, 2008

Hello Mike,

>Do I have this straight.

>1 Variable Hartley RF oscillator, which is set to produce

>the difference freqency MOR between itself and the fixed

>RF Hartley oscillator.

Yes. 4.68MHz & 3.076MHz will give you a heterodyne frequency of

1.604MHz

>2 Fixed approximate 1300HZ oscillator which impulse excites the

>fixed Hartley, to produce an impulsed excited damped RF carrier.

>This then produces the MOR approximately 1300 times a second.

Yes. The output frequency is modulated with the 1330 hertz damped

wave (minus the ring oscillations of a true damped wave) to produce a

damped shaped wave MOR frequency. I might add that we believe this is

very important to have this type of waveform because of the high

potential voltage rise on the leading edge. Jim s has read the

power level of the peak and believes it is close to 500 watts.

>From mainstream science the only biological effect of the damping

>portion of a wave is to produce heat.

>If we assume that this is correct then it is the impulse or first

>part of the gating wave that is important.

I cannot say it any better that what Crane said when he narrated

Dr. Rife's lab film.

Crane: " Now the spikes that you see on the frequencies are the lethal

part that kill and devitalize the virus. They are the resonant peaks

of the frequencies which increase the voltage to a very high

potential which the cells of the virus wall cannot tolerate and they

break up into many pieces and are destroyed. " (Dr. Rife's Lab Film

Narrated by Crane in the 1970s)

>From the current historical evidence the #4 only produced one

>frequency at a time unless the pathogen needed two.

>From the Gruner circuit it might be assumed that the #4 also

>used fixed gating/impulse excited damped RF, of the MOR.

This is what Dr. Rife's lab film seems to indicate.

>The essence of what this boils down to is a high power variable Rf

>frequency, tube type Oscilloclast. Rife took the Oscilloclast whether

>tube or Hoffman/Abrams dead beat oscillator a few steps

>further.

>One question I would have about the Gruner circiut is the

>60 Hz ripple left in or filtered out.

>Old Mike

Many of the early electrotherapy devices used damped waves. I do not

know how much Rife was influence by these devices but he had to be

aware of the benefit of the damped waveforms they produced. The

unique method used in the Beam Rays instrument to produce this wave

form is what surprised us when the circuit was rebuilt. Anyone

looking at this circuit would believe that it would produce a sine

wave audio frequency. This is why Jim s said you have to build

the circuit. As for the 60 cycle ripple it is still in these

instruments. It appears that they were not concerned about filtering

it out.

Jeff Garff

April 14, 2008

Thanks Jeff;

If they left in the 60Hz ripple then it is a feature and not

an oversite, this will also modulate the shape of the output.

Mike

>

> Hello Mike,

>

> >Do I have this straight.

> >1 Variable Hartley RF oscillator, which is set to produce

> >the difference freqency MOR between itself and the fixed

> >RF Hartley oscillator.

>

> Yes. 4.68MHz & 3.076MHz will give you a heterodyne frequency of

> 1.604MHz

>

> >2 Fixed approximate 1300HZ oscillator which impulse excites the

> >fixed Hartley, to produce an impulsed excited damped RF carrier.

> >This then produces the MOR approximately 1300 times a second.

>

> Yes. The output frequency is modulated with the 1330 hertz damped

> wave (minus the ring oscillations of a true damped wave) to produce

a

> damped shaped wave MOR frequency. I might add that we believe this

is

> very important to have this type of waveform because of the high

> potential voltage rise on the leading edge. Jim s has read the

> power level of the peak and believes it is close to 500 watts.

>

> >From mainstream science the only biological effect of the damping

> >portion of a wave is to produce heat.

> >If we assume that this is correct then it is the impulse or first

> >part of the gating wave that is important.

>

> I cannot say it any better that what Crane said when he

narrated

> Dr. Rife's lab film.

>

> Crane: " Now the spikes that you see on the frequencies are the

lethal

> part that kill and devitalize the virus. They are the resonant

peaks

> of the frequencies which increase the voltage to a very high

> potential which the cells of the virus wall cannot tolerate and

they

> break up into many pieces and are destroyed. " (Dr. Rife's Lab Film

> Narrated by Crane in the 1970s)

>

> >From the current historical evidence the #4 only produced one

> >frequency at a time unless the pathogen needed two.

> >From the Gruner circuit it might be assumed that the #4 also

> >used fixed gating/impulse excited damped RF, of the MOR.

>

> This is what Dr. Rife's lab film seems to indicate.

>

> >The essence of what this boils down to is a high power variable Rf

> >frequency, tube type Oscilloclast. Rife took the Oscilloclast

whether

> >tube or Hoffman/Abrams dead beat oscillator a few steps

> >further.

> >One question I would have about the Gruner circiut is the

> >60 Hz ripple left in or filtered out.

> >Old Mike

>

> Many of the early electrotherapy devices used damped waves. I do

not

> know how much Rife was influence by these devices but he had to be

> aware of the benefit of the damped waveforms they produced. The

> unique method used in the Beam Rays instrument to produce this wave

> form is what surprised us when the circuit was rebuilt. Anyone

> looking at this circuit would believe that it would produce a sine

> wave audio frequency. This is why Jim s said you have to build

> the circuit. As for the 60 cycle ripple it is still in these

> instruments. It appears that they were not concerned about

filtering

> it out.

>

> Jeff Garff

>

April 14, 2008

The combination of waveforms Jeff describes may be related to what is

termed a " moderately damped " wave. This consists of both damped and

continuous wave components. It was developed by Dr. Bovie back in the

mid 1920's for electrosurgery. Rife would likey have been aware of

its existence.

Prior to this, all electrotherapy devices applied a highly damped

wave. CW only became viable with DeForest's invention of the vacuum

tube oscillator. Perhaps this is what inspired Rife to improve upon

Albert Abram's Radio Oscilloclast. The first triodes were called

" audiotrons " , a term that appears repeatedly in Rife's lab reports.

The Bovie is a " bloodless " surgical scalpel that cuts and cauterizes

with radio frequency. The continuous part of the wave cuts tissue,

while the damped wave component has homeostatic and desiccative

properties related to heating. The latter is the basis of medical

diathermy. Both of these effects together produced the optimal

result. It would be interesting to see how this translates into a plasma tube.

This equipment is still produced today in Florida by Bovie

Electromedical. Current models have a fixed frequency of 490KHz, and

are capable of 300W into 300 Ohms. They do come up occasionally on

the secondhand market. Conversion to variable frequency over the MOR

range may be possible.

Nielsen

April 14, 2008

Hi : Yes you are quite correct. The Papas site has some good

history on Rife/damped waves,electrosurgery.

I happen to have a spark gap electrosurgical unit, it is of very

simple construction. I stopped messing around with it years ago

ever since I connected it to a hot dog, which then proceeded to

glow,smoke and catch on fire.

Old Mike

>

> The combination of waveforms Jeff describes may be related to what

is

> termed a " moderately damped " wave. This consists of both damped and

> continuous wave components. It was developed by Dr. Bovie back in

the

> mid 1920's for electrosurgery. Rife would likey have been aware of

> its existence.

>

> Prior to this, all electrotherapy devices applied a highly damped

> wave. CW only became viable with DeForest's invention of the vacuum

> tube oscillator. Perhaps this is what inspired Rife to improve upon

> Albert Abram's Radio Oscilloclast. The first triodes were called

> " audiotrons " , a term that appears repeatedly in Rife's lab reports.

>

> The Bovie is a " bloodless " surgical scalpel that cuts and

cauterizes

> with radio frequency. The continuous part of the wave cuts tissue,

> while the damped wave component has homeostatic and desiccative

> properties related to heating. The latter is the basis of medical

> diathermy. Both of these effects together produced the optimal

> result. It would be interesting to see how this translates into a

plasma tube.

>

> This equipment is still produced today in Florida by Bovie

> Electromedical. Current models have a fixed frequency of 490KHz,

and

> are capable of 300W into 300 Ohms. They do come up occasionally on

> the secondhand market. Conversion to variable frequency over the

MOR

> range may be possible.

>

> Nielsen

>

April 14, 2008

Hi Jeff: If you are interested here is the Oscilloclast circuit

and how it works.

This of course is a single RF frequency device of low power as

opposed to a high power variable RF as in the #4. But the essence

is the same, impulse excited RF at a fixed rate, with 60Hz ripple

left in.

I would also assume that in the Gruner circuit that the RF carrier

only transmits on the positive half cycle of the 1300 Hz audio

generator which gives it an actual on frequency of about 650 Hz,

is this correct.

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT2545087