Re: Is Coproporphyrin Lead and Precoproporphyrin Mercury???

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From what I understand, mercury also can cause permanent damage IF not chelate for long time. Maybe thats why people said that the chance to recovery much bigger in younger kids. And from what I learn in my place, they said chance for recovery using chelation for kid older than 10years is only 10%.

Lead can also causing some ASD symptoms, and lead is much more abundant in our environment, but easier to remove by our body.

Cheers,

Yuliana

Re: Is Coproporphyrin Lead and Precoproporphyrin Mercury???

Okay, so if it IS lead and we chelate, his symptoms may improve?? I thought I read somewhere online last night that it wouldn't change his behaviors because the damage is permanent to the frontal lobe. I received more results this morning and the lab is saying they suspect both mercury and lead in my son.Thanks so much.gfcfmom> >> > Confused by results. My son's Copro results are VERY high but his > Precop is normal high > > range. The lab thinks this is probably lead. I know it's easier to > remove lead from the body > > BUT from what I understand the damage done by lead can not be > undone. In other words > > mercury chelation would reduce ASD symptoms but not with lead - does > this all sound > > correct?> > > > Thanks.> > > > gfcfmom> >>

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After removing heavy metals, there is the possibility of healing the damage they caused by using adjunctive therapies (with supplements) such as hyperbaric oxygen, to revitalize idling brain cells. Check out Stoller, MD's article: http://www.hbotnm.com/articles/FinalInterview.pdf

For a while I thought HBOT was just another way for rich people to "throw money" at their kids problem with autism. But we ended up buying a home HBOT chamber and it has helped our son. He's probably halfway through his chelation protocol.

Sue

Re: Is Coproporphyrin Lead and Precoproporphyrin Mercury???

Okay, so if it IS lead and we chelate, his symptoms may improve?? I thought I read somewhere online last night that it wouldn't change his behaviors because the damage is permanent to the frontal lobe. I received more results this morning and the lab is saying they suspect both mercury and lead in my son.Thanks so much.gfcfmom> >> > Confused by results. My son's Copro results are VERY high but his > Precop is normal high > > range. The lab thinks this is probably lead. I know it's easier to > remove lead from the body > > BUT from what I understand the damage done by lead can not be > undone. In other words > > mercury chelation would reduce ASD symptoms but not with lead - does > this all sound > > correct?> > > > Thanks.> > > > gfcfmom> >>

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I switched web browsers so I'm wondering if my posts will actually

appear without breaks in the sentences.

Regarding porphryns, the lastest is that the France labs controls are

not accurate yet, especially outside france. So, that means that

children in the US that are not vaccinated and do not have autism

often show up high.

So what does that mean?

It may mean that it's a lot less toxic in France, especially since

they don't have coal burning power plants.

As for me if I were to do a porphryns test I would use it if I were

chelating just to see the levels go down and to consider when to stop

chelating.

Most people seem to feel the testing methodology is worthwhile, it's

just the normal ranges that many people are criticizing right now.

As for lead and mercury.

I no specialist at this, but what I do know is that lead and mercury

often go hand in hand. Most of our kids have lead issues as well. If

you chelate, it's pretty common for lead to dump first based on

today's chelators.

So, in order to get to mercury, you have to get through some lead first.

I've seen a lot of lab results where mercury was practically zero

coming out but there was a good deal of lead. Once the lead comes

down close to the normal range (let's say below 6 on the urine

analysis) then mercury starts coming out in greater rates.

-Stan

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> > > Confused by results. My son's Copro results are VERY high

but his

> > Precop is normal high

> > > range. The lab thinks this is probably lead. I know it's

easier to

> > remove lead from the body

> > > BUT from what I understand the damage done by lead can not be

> > undone. In other words

> > > mercury chelation would reduce ASD symptoms but not with

lead - does

> > this all sound

> > > correct?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > gfcfmom

> > >

> >

>

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Wow, it's so nice to see my post come up without irregular line breaks.

If you ever see that with other posts, you can suggest the person, you

is a MAC user, to move from Safari to Firefox. Problem solved.

Stan

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> > > > Confused by results. My son's Copro results are VERY high

> but his

> > > Precop is normal high

> > > > range. The lab thinks this is probably lead. I know it's

> easier to

> > > remove lead from the body

> > > > BUT from what I understand the damage done by lead can not be

> > > undone. In other words

> > > > mercury chelation would reduce ASD symptoms but not with

> lead - does

> > > this all sound

> > > > correct?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > gfcfmom

> > > >

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> >

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I am using Sarfari and I still get those icky line breaks.

gfcfmom

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> > > > > Confused by results. My son's Copro results are VERY high

> > but his

> > > > Precop is normal high

> > > > > range. The lab thinks this is probably lead. I know it's

> > easier to

> > > > remove lead from the body

> > > > > BUT from what I understand the damage done by lead can not be

> > > > undone. In other words

> > > > > mercury chelation would reduce ASD symptoms but not with

> > lead - does

> > > > this all sound

> > > > > correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > gfcfmom

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Thanks . My son is not doing so good. Though the measles type

rash seemed to leave 90% something is still going on. He had his ASO

test and it was positive and he has started the Pen VK which is awful

tasting, another problem. But he is just in another place-the new

stims, the OCD's, and the Dr says it is the PANDAS now. I just dont

know anymore. Detox, metals, PANDAS....I dont actually have the labs

here, I really need to get a copy. The Dr did say lead was (-) back

in Oct but I dont think we were starting metals anyway until after

viruses and then we got hit w./ this possibility of PANDAS affecting

him now. I say POSSIBILITY b/c I have read some articles that it is

not " real " and and cant be helped with antibiotics and then I have

read other miracle stories. He has been on the Pen VK for about 6

days and right now we are scheduled for 1 month.

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> > > > > > > Confused by results. My son's Copro results are

VERY

> > high

> > > > but his

> > > > > > Precop is normal high

> > > > > > > range. The lab thinks this is probably lead. I know

it's

> > > > easier to

> > > > > > remove lead from the body

> > > > > > > BUT from what I understand the damage done by lead

can

> > not be

> > > > > > undone. In other words

> > > > > > > mercury chelation would reduce ASD symptoms but not

with

> > > > lead - does

> > > > > > this all sound

> > > > > > > correct?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > gfcfmom

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Whenever the professions are embarrassed  about heavy metals they order blood tests because that will only show perhaps 1/8th of the metals in faeces and very much less than often gets provoked by a chelation test.Imagine what it would be like flying;  if aircraft mechanics and engineers got paid for keeping planes sick.  If they got 80% of their income from the last 4 months of the planes life.  Rich people would go by horse and carriage rather than fly under those conditions, wouldn't they ? Hey Shanon,I'm not Stan, but I know that it is common to have blood tests come back negative on kids who have a ton of lead and mercury. It would most likely only show up in a blood test if it were recent exposure. If you have specific tests you have questions about, maybe I could help - we have been on the heavy metals road for over a year now. On another note, how is your son doing? I don't know if my son's issues from two weeks ago were healing regression, 2-3 month SCD regression or a combination of being sick, but we are much better now. We also followed Stan's advice (per Diatplay) and cut bananas (and eggs). Our Speech Therapist even told him: "It's nice to have you back."All my best, > >> > Wow, it's so nice to see my post come up without irregular line > breaks.> > > > If you ever see that with other posts, you can suggest the person, > you> > is a MAC user, to move from Safari to Firefox. Problem solved.> > > > Stan> > 

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Well my son's hair showed MERCURY and TIN - not LEAD. Blod test showed NO LEAD.

Urine test shows LEAD and MERCURY. Oy!!

gfcfmom

> > > >

> > > > Confused by results. My son's Copro results are VERY high

> but his

> > > Precop is normal high

> > > > range. The lab thinks this is probably lead. I know it's

> easier to

> > > remove lead from the body

> > > > BUT from what I understand the damage done by lead can not be

> > > undone. In other words

> > > > mercury chelation would reduce ASD symptoms but not with

> lead - does

> > > this all sound

> > > > correct?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > gfcfmom

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> Regarding porphryns, the lastest is that the France labs controls are

> not accurate yet, especially outside france. So, that means that

> children in the US that are not vaccinated and do not have autism

> often show up high.

>

> So what does that mean?

>

I think the jury is still out on this. Before I concede that any lab

is more accurate than another, I want to see a 3rd party do the

research. Each lab has their own methodologies and there isn't

sufficient explanation in the GPL report that would lead me to

believe that this isn't a case of " lab envy " (not to knock GPL, I

just think it's not entirely thorough enough to say it is or isn't

accurate). I think it's great to question it but I want to see a 3rd

party study done, not one by someone that has a vested interest.

Cheryl