What a treasure!..Thanks Di... for sharing...Read OFTEN

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Thanks, Di.. from Sue,

I remember my mom once

was visiting from out of town when my son --now 27 yrs.-- was about 5 years old --and we were trying to put him to bed one night

....AND SHE was praying that the Lord would take him that night.

I felt the stab.........and wanted to sob.

He is adopted... and she was trying to protect

our marriage...because he was so aggressive

and it turned out he was hospitalized twice in a Psych

hospital...at 10 & 13 with talk of institutionalizing him.

due to his aggression from his Bipolar, Static Hydrocephelus, mild tic, mild cerbral palsy,

ADHD, severe LD's and earlier DX of /borderline autism/PDD.

(His birth Mom used cocaine twice during his pregnacy --so she said..)

Everyone laughs at that becasue they know it was probably much more.

Anyway... many people told us we should give him back to the adoption

agency... and I know of others who did in similar situtations.

But the Lord is GOOD and answers prayer...

My Husband bought Love, Medicine, and Miracles

for me by Bernie Siegel MD. ..

just when I was at my darkest hour...

and that book gave me the HOPE

to turn our lives around.

Positive thinking & God' guidance is powerful...

and instead of saying I don't know if I can make it.

I told everyone I knew including my SON...

that we ARE GOING to find something

to HELP you.....and we did.... over and over and over.

Now he is 27.. and a caring & loving beautiful person....

Has a part time job as a porter at a bowling center...

Where people love him & his many challenges

Section 8 housing Apt.

Me --as his IHSS worker..paid by the county to help him 3 afternoons per week.

Other support staff from ALTA regional STEP services

A paid roommate... who wants him to be BEST man at his wedding in April.

3 meds that stabilize him

And God standing by his side giving him hope.

Never give up hope..and always encourage and love one another

with God at the Helm.

Thanks for your descriptive and therapeutic

story below.,

Love, Sue

Re: Stan...no takers? No time....but we owe you, so here are answer

Posted by: "April Hornung" ape0522@... ape0522

Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:22 pm (PST)

Wow! I needed to hear this. We are at the beginning of our journey with autism. I am overwhelmed, overworked and ready to say forget this. What you said makes sense. It could not have come at a better time.ThanksAprildiatplay <diatplay> wrote:#1 - My husband was not very overtly involved in the months immediately following Matt's ASD diagnosis. The news sort of paralyzed him and he became a workaholic. Matt is now 2.5 and has just begun talking, echolalia and some spontaneous language...like "daddy". He runs through the house looking for his dad, calling out to him to come and play ball. He has met his one year goals in under four months. This from near catatonic at times, drooling on himself constantly, and just shreiking all the time to communicate. He was also VERY stimmy with tics and behaviors that were so bad or odd we were sent to a neurologist to see if he had a seizure disorder. That is all gone now. Diet changes, valtrex and antifungals, supps and vits, and therapies have all helped. Keeping our family intact has definitely helped him too...consider saving your marriage as important an intervention strategy - perhaps one of the most important - as any of the others. It is all hard work, but keeping the marriage and family together is actually the hardest part.The only thing that worked in terms of getting my husband more involved initially...was to tell myself that he WAS involved, just as he was, whatever he did or didn't do, over and over again, so I wouldn't kill him for his response - or lack thereof to Matt's diagnosis. Looking back I realize, by virtue of just not abandoning his family or becoming so unfocused and unnerved by the diagnosis that he lost his job, he was contributing. He did the best he could until the shock and horror of it kind of wore off...he is doing more all the time. He will never do as much as me...but what he does do is DIFFERENT from my role and of equal value. Thre is such a thing as guy stuff, and in this house a guy is doing it all Thank God.Matt and the rest of us would be in a very bad place if our family broke up - I simply tell myself that every day, and then carry on. Warren's bigest contribution at first was just holding his own at work and keeping his job, and any man who does that needs credit for it...giving credit and thanks constantly is the only thing that holds the rage and disappointment at bay until your guy gets up to speed with helping you out in the ways that are most meaningful/helpful to you. There is a big learning curve for all of us with this illness, injury, condition - whatever it is. We fought in the first few months bc fighting gave us such a release and escape. Once I realized the underlying reason we were both so motivated to pick those fights or continue them, I decided we would fight less, period. IF you are using quarrels to escape the autism chores...it is all still there when the dust settles and everything is made worse by the arguing. It is human nature though. Can't worry about the autism kid right NOW, bc we are in a big huge fight....and so on. More helpful will follow when less injured and traumatized becomes a reality. I think an apparent lack of involvement IS IN DIRECT proportion to the degree of trauma that the diagnosis creates. If you remember that shock is REAL, helps you cope with what looks like indifference. The kid in the room with autism has FEELINGS and responses, and so do our shattered men. I know it is not easy, and there will probably be fights. There must not be divorce, under any circumstances with any excuses accepted though...stay together.Especially when it is a son, I think this diagnosis wounds fathers in a place they can't explain. It is rough on the whole family of course, but it really most paralyzes. If women understood that the paralysis is usually a temporary state of affairs perhaps they could cope with the first roughest months better. I didn't realize how typical it was for the men to become instant workaholics and unavailable. I didn't understand why he would not make a decision about drugs, diet, any of it in the first few months....It would be easier for my husband to forgive me a judgement error than it would be to forgive him...and I think that is the dynamic in many homes and marriages. I know I was PISSED at him for not being able to fix this thing and save us all from the terrible difficult autism....totally irrational, I know, but those were the feelings. His feelings were just pure terror - first for Matt, next for our marriage and the other kids, and add to that all the financial worries...it is rough. Men also do not get connected as quickly or as effectively as women do. Most do not have time in their workdays to pour over research or even chat rooms for support....I had to REMIND MYSELF, constantly, that he was doing the best he could.......Because LOVE IS NOT MEASURED ALWAYS IN FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND ACTIONS WHEN SOMEONE IS HURT AND HURTING. I have a friend whose son is almost completely recovered and she told me that once he was old enough and well enough to express things to her he told her, "You know how you used to call me over and over again when I was sick? I always came the very first time, Mom, even though it didn't look like it cause I didn't turn to you or move from my seat." And so it is with our men, frozen at their desks and crying in their cars....or not crying as was the case with my husband because if he started he would never stop, and what good would that do? So if you want to perserve your marriage for THE KIDS' sakes if for no other reason...since no wife wants to preserve their marriage in the first few horrible months of this thing...everyone hates their spouse it seems during this crisis period...circle the wagons around your promises and your marriage ANYWAY...by giving Big Points for not walking out the door, Points for trusting enough to support and bankroll (as is usually the case) all attempts at getting our kids back, Points, for everything little thing they do,say, or try....and it gets better.This is how I turned it around, marriage wise, in our house. 1. In the beginning things were BAD. I focused on how BAD and hopeless was Matt's diagnosis and how USELESS Warren, my husband, was in this crisis...and what you believe and self talk constantly definitely affects your perceptions AS WELL AS your outcome/results. A gestalt shift in my own thinking about what constitutes contributing was necessary to make Warren useful and helpful and concerned. I simply redefined everything until he WAS contributing to Matt beating his autism by doing exactly what he did, being who he was, no changes up front. I also stopped focusing on what I WISHED he would do...since deep down it really amounted to the irrational desire for him to just MAKE IT ALL BETTER, NO MORE AUTISM. Who can do that? We all secretly long for that from our men, and I think they suss it, and run from such impossible expectations...they seem to guess (often correctly) that they are capable of forgiving us for judgement errors and mistakes in treatment strategies more graciously than we could forgive them if they were to screw up...that is the dynamic in iur house anyway. It isn't fair; just true.I also did Pivotal Response Training/ABA type stuff on him and was surprised at how well it worked. You know how we accept any vocalization as if the word has been produced in fact, and we measure success in diet interventions by the tsp..same idea. Every little move in a direction of the kind of help I wanted got big praise or just changes around the house I knew he would appreciate. At the end of a long work day I have learned to limit our talk of treatments and autism related stuff with him to about 30 minutes max. Tomorrow is another day. We get up a bit earlier if there is more to share or resolve. Every hour of sleep before 10pm is worth four after midnight - medical fact. Buy a hourglass if you need to...2. Fighting did not work. Nagging was useless. Telling him, making lists for him, anything and everything failed except being nice, being patient, and being sympathetic when Matt's autism got overwhelming. NOTHING works except loving conduct and lots of encouragement and sincere gratitude for every gain in each area of how to get better at fighting this thing together....and constant reassurance that Matt was his son for a reason and nobody could pull him out of his autism fog like daddy could...which has come to pass. We are far from out of the woods, but the bond between those two grows stronger every day despite the fact that I do most of the "stuff". Matt just LOVES his daddy - amen. As Warren's confidence grows and the shock and anger and fear diminish, he is more involved and everything he does just gets more bang for the buck than if I do it...it is a dad/son thing, though perhaps a daddy's girl would present the same phenomena. Whatever - Matt is gaining, slow and steady, and we are thrilled.SEX: In this area I really had to just suck it up and treat my husband's needs like any other unpleasant chore on the list...not as bad as giving a shot, but not over as fast either unfortunately...and I was TIRED all the time and stressed, esp. in the very beginning, but a promise is a promise...and to cherish is a PHYSICAL ACT as well as a mental excercise. It is a personal choice - to MAKE love - make it where it doesn't exist anymore and from scratch with someone who you would prefer to scratch, smack, and kick for not responding in a crisis the same way you do. If your child is worth all the effort it takes to recover them, then you marriage warrants some sacrifices up front too to keep dad in the home - even in the periphery in the home - and yes, even if he remains less involved than you would like him to be...it is a MAJOR intervention on your kid's behalf and like all the others no without its cost. Choose to cherish and choose it constantly...it gets easier and eventually it even becomes enjoyable again. Eventually it also gets reciprocated...it really does. On a more practical note - In our house we needed to get rid of television bc we both used it to escape at the end of the day. GET RID OF TV and Tivo - the withdrawal was not as bad as we assumed it would be. You will be amazed at how this decision/sacrifice speeds recovery - everyone's - and from tastes and habits you didn't even know were so unproductive. We would watch so much news and junk at the end of the day for escape...and then it would be too late for sex and we would be tired the next day bc we stayed up too late watching tv!!! We do not even miss it anymore and we are no longer as anxious to get the kiddos to bed so we can have "grown up time/shows". Did you know the Indian government has a special program that provides free tv and cable for many poor families. They consider it an inexpensive populations control strategy? We learned of it on our honeymoon there - a very effective program as it turns out.The other thing that helped improve our relationship, our sex life, our marriage, and our family life was hiring some help to CLEAN and help with the kids 3 days a week. This was HUGE. Not going out on date nights and eliminating some other things made this possible. BRINGING IN help with childcare and chores definitely made me less resentful,less tired, and made enjoyable less chore-like sex possible once again. It also shortened the list of eveything that I wished my husband would help with...I had the help, finally, so the resentment just naturally diminished as more things got accomplished. Much cheaper than a divorce.The other thing that improved OUR LIVES, immensely, was the decision that the whole family would eat the foods and follow the strategies that were designed to recover Matt. Wow. Who knew that c carbs, starches, sugars, and grains had SUCH an enormously adverse affect on libido, attention span, mood, and overall energy levels? I always thought chocolate cravings were emotional or a "girly" thing - nope - it's a YEASTY thing. My husband gave up ALL sugar and broke out in an itchy red rash over most of his torso and back, upper legs and buttocks. The rash went away and so did some of his apathy (or what looked like apathy)and inertia over Matt's situation. The oddest strategy that I found to help save my sanity during the first roughest months was having a richer fantasy life to compensate for the fact that I had ( and still have ) almost NO life beyond care of my child with autism and the rest of my family. Fantasy helped me connect with reality and kept my sexual connection and committment alive during the roughest first months post diagnosis. If you are in a crisis place in terms of sex right NOW in your marriage, you can get through the roughest days by pretending you are a single mom. I did. That's what I mean by having a fantasy life. I had to pretend Warren was not Warren for awhile in order to cope with his "absence" and in my case it helped immensely. The game I played to keep myself sane was that my husband was just a nice neighbor stranger who helped out my family. I was a widow or divorcee in this fantasy world of mine - and eveything Warren did was a bonus that way. Otherwise I would have left him or KILLED him. " Oh hey, so sweet of you to care, nice unobligated guy with the cute smile...sure you can unload the car, THANKS!" When I went to bed it was lights off and eyes closed. I know that sounds nuts, but it WORKED like a charm when nothing else did and we were fighting all the time. My single mom fantasy saved our marriage and made our sex life possible when I was my angriest. It sounds funny when I write it, and we do laugh about it now, 8 months into this scary adventure...but that is what worked for me. Seriously, I didn't feel like sleeping with my husband in the first few months of this crisis - who does? By pretending he isn't your husband you will start to really notice all the things he does every single day that nobody except your husband would do for you and your kids-especially your kid with autism. Try it. It works. You cannot be grateful for contributions you don't acknowledge or cannot SEE. Sort of tuning him out and not giving him anything to do...made me finally see all he actually did do for us, unasked, and despite not getting any credit...If you have a husband willing to stay with you and the kids on this journey extend yourself physically to him, no matter what and even when, especially when, you do not feel like it bc it could be YEARS before you feel like it again...and your child needs a confident caring dad NOW. He needs someone who want to take care of him/her, mom, and the family. Do it for your kids...within a few months you will be doing it for him, for yourself, and for each other again. Until the feelings come back, fake it. Love (with actions) the one you are with...and save the family. I never feel like giving meds and supps, I do it anyway, every day bc I have a big picture plan with Matt. I put out with and for my husband for the same reasons and with the same determination...horny? What is THAT? My kid has autism. My husband has a kid with autism...and therefore needs sexual comfort and reassurance 100 x more than every other dad out there with only the normal stresses of life. If you wait until you are not tired, your child is healed, or you FEEL like it/want it...forget it. Your family will shatter. My goal with W is at LEAST once a week. TALK LESS HUG MORE. Love your husband the way you hope someone will love your injured child someday-unconditionally, and when and how and where they need to be loved. Your kid's chances are so much greater in an intact family. ---------------------------------Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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Re: Stan...no takers? No time....but we owe you, so here are answe

Posted by: "Kim" delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk

Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:46 pm (PST)

This was a really awesome response with alot ofgreat, practical info. Thanks for taking thetime to do this.--- diatplay <diatplay> wrote:> #1 - My husband was not very overtly involved> in the months > immediately following Matt's ASD diagnosis. > The news sort of > paralyzed him and he became a workaholic. Matt> is now 2.5 and has > just begun talking, echolalia and some> spontaneous > language...like "daddy". He runs through the> house looking for his > dad, calling out to him to come and play ball.> He has met his one > year goals in under four months. This from> near catatonic at times, > drooling on himself constantly, and just> shreiking all the time to > communicate. He was also VERY stimmy with tics> and behaviors that > were so bad or odd we were sent to a> neurologist to see if he had a > seizure disorder. That is all gone now. Diet> changes, valtrex and > antifungals, supps and vits, and therapies have> all helped. Keeping > our family intact has definitely helped him> too...consider saving > your marriage as important an intervention> strategy - perhaps one of > the most important - as any of the others. It> is all hard work, but > keeping the marriage and family together is> actually the hardest part.> > The only thing that worked in terms of getting> my husband more > involved initially...was to tell myself that he> WAS involved, just as > he was, whatever he did or didn't do, over and> over again, so I > wouldn't kill him for his response - or lack> thereof to Matt's > diagnosis. > > Looking back I realize, by virtue of just not> abandoning his family > or becoming so unfocused and unnerved by the> diagnosis that he lost > his job, he was contributing. He did the best> he could until the > shock and horror of it kind of wore off...he is> doing more all the > time. He will never do as much as me...but> what he does do is > DIFFERENT from my role and of equal value. > Thre is such a thing as > guy stuff, and in this house a guy is doing it> all Thank God.> > Matt and the rest of us would be in a very bad> place if our family > broke up - I simply tell myself that every day,> and then carry on. > > Warren's bigest contribution at first was just> holding his own at > work and keeping his job, and any man who does> that needs credit for > it...giving credit and thanks constantly is the> only thing that holds > the rage and disappointment at bay until your> guy gets up to speed > with helping you out in the ways that are most> meaningful/helpful to > you. There is a big learning curve for all of> us with this illness, > injury, condition - whatever it is. > > We fought in the first few months bc fighting> gave us such a release > and escape. Once I realized the underlying> reason we were both so > motivated to pick those fights or continue> them, I decided we would > fight less, period. IF you are using quarrels> to escape the autism > chores...it is all still there when the dust> settles and everything > is made worse by the arguing. It is human> nature though. Can't > worry about the autism kid right NOW, bc we are> in a big huge > fight....and so on. More helpful will follow> when less injured and > traumatized becomes a reality. > > I think an apparent lack of involvement IS IN> DIRECT proportion to > the degree of trauma that the diagnosis> creates. If you remember that > shock is REAL, helps you cope with what looks> like indifference. The > kid in the room with autism has FEELINGS and> responses, and so do our > shattered men. I know it is not easy, and> there will probably be > fights. There must not be divorce, under any> circumstances with any > excuses accepted though...stay together.> > Especially when it is a son, I think this> diagnosis wounds fathers in > a place they can't explain. It is rough on the> whole family of > course, but it really most paralyzes. If women> understood that the > paralysis is usually a temporary state of> affairs perhaps they could > cope with the first roughest months better. I> didn't realize how > typical it was for the men to become instant> workaholics and > unavailable. I didn't understand why he would> not make a decision > about drugs, diet, any of it in the first few> months....> > It would be easier for my husband to forgive me> a judgement error > than it would be to forgive him...and I think> that is the dynamic in > many homes and marriages. I know I was PISSED> at him for not being > able to fix this thing and save us all from the> terrible difficult > autism....totally irrational, I know, but those> were the feelings. > His feelings were just pure terror - first for> Matt, next for our > marriage and the other kids, and add to that> all the financial > worries...it is rough. Men also do not get> connected as quickly or > as effectively as women do. Most do not have> time in their workdays > to pour over research or even chat rooms for> support....I had to > REMIND MYSELF, constantly, that he was doing> the best he could...> > ...Because LOVE IS NOT MEASURED ALWAYS IN> FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND > ACTIONS WHEN SOMEONE IS HURT AND HURTING. I> have a friend whose son > is almost completely recovered and she told me> that once he was old > enough and well enough to express things to her> he told her, "You > know how you used to call me over and over> again when I was sick? I > always came the very first time, Mom, even> though it didn't look like > it cause I didn't turn to you or move from my> seat." > > And so it is with our men, frozen at their> desks and crying in their > cars....or not crying as was the case with my> husband because if he > started he would never stop, and what good> would that do? So if you > want to perserve your marriage for THE KIDS'> sakes if for no other > reason...since no wife wants to preserve their> marriage in the first > few horrible months of this thing...everyone> hates their spouse it > seems during this crisis period...circle the> wagons around your > promises and your marriage ANYWAY...by giving> Big Points for not > walking out the door, Points for trusting> enough to support and > bankroll (as is usually the case) all attempts> at getting our kids > back, Points, for everything little thing they> do,say, or try....and > it gets better.> > > > This is how I turned it around, marriage wise,> in our house. > > 1. In the beginning things were BAD. I> focused on how BAD and > hopeless was Matt's diagnosis and how USELESS> Warren, my husband, was > in this crisis...and what you believe and self> talk constantly > definitely affects your perceptions AS WELL AS> your outcome/results. > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: Pee accidents--Any ideas??

Posted by: " Owens" lwo@... susancostenowens

Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:15 pm (PST)

Celinda,Very frequently, when someone has symptoms like a UTI but is culture negative, the issue is oxalates irritating the urethra. We first heard about this from the Vulvar Pain Foundation, but we are seeing the same thing in other populations using the LOD diet including autism. Sometimes this starts getting worse where the child is having to pee every few minutes, and sometimes these trips to the bathroom yield a dry run, but they still feel they have to go. This is something that can clear up on the low oxalate diet. Please check out the parental stories of this sort at Trying_Low_Oxalates .You might also take a look at the food lists at the bottom of the page at www.lowoxalate.info/recipes to see if your son has been eating high oxalate foods.I hope this helps.At 01:40 PM 2/9/2008, you wrote:>Good morning, all...>>My 6 y.o. kiddo has had several pee accidents this week. Teacher tells>me that when he gets off the bus at school, he has to scramble to the>bathroom w/ great urgency. And at least once more during the day, he>rushes to the bathroom--he's had two full-fledged accidents where he>just didn't make it on time, and three "dribbling" accidents. This is>over the past 5 days or so. At home, I noticed increased urgency a>couple of times a day, and one accident two days ago. This is totally>out of character for him.>>Took him to his ped. to check for UTI, and it's negative, so now I turn>to you all for help-->>He's on day 38 of Valtrex w/ ketokonazole started 2 wks prior. We've>seen nice things--more awareness, language, better focus at school,>more appropriate play...>>Any ideas?? Thanks so much!>Celinda>>----------Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 12:00 AM

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Answers / study / LW Yage Glutathione Booster patches

Posted by: "jsthorpe" jsthorpe@... thorpe_sue

Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:11 pm (PST)

Hi Maurine from Sue,To get to the study on this LW GSH booter patch... Go to www.lifewave.com/fundingASDresearch .1. Click on the left item = "IN the NEWS 2. Scroll down to the bottom where it says "View dozens of pictures........etc." and CLICK on that.3. Scroll down past all the athletes using the patches..and then it comes to magazines... and stop at the LAST magazine.4. Click on that magazine called Hippocrates..Vol. 28 1.It has a review in there. To get the other article below you asked for... simply put the title I listed below in a search engine on Internet Explorer.It has many more listed as well.Hope that helps,Sue:).... PS... I also sent a request to Dr. Halitwanger to get a copy sent to my email... It may take awhile since he is often doing seminars etc... 7b. Re: Why LW Yage Glutathione Booster patches are more effective than Posted by: "Maurine Meleck" maurine_meleck maurine_meleck Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:08 am (PST) Sue,while I respect your opinion on this-I would like to read the actual studies that you talk about here. Can you please direct me or give me the links to these studies both on the patches and the IV glutathione. Thanks,Maurinejsthorpe <jsthorpesurewest (DOT) net> wrote:HI from Sue,Several of you listed GSH sources so I wanted to share this...Dr. Haltiwanger (MD,CNN) has explained belowwhy LW Yage Glutathione booster patches are more effective than IV glutathione.( And... as most of you know --oral Glutathione is not readily absorbed but will be eliminated by the liver before reaching the blood stream. Cystine is not well absorbed when taken orally.)INJECTABLE types are degraded by the time it gets to the cell and much cannot effectively pass through the cell membrane.( Injected Glutathione has an extremely short half-life; this leads to a reduced efficacy; a study entitled "The level and half-life of glutathione in human plasma" (available on the internet) states: "In a single self-experiment we investigated the fate of INTRAVENEOUSLY injected glutathione in man. Fig.1shows that a single dose of 100 mg GSH is rapidly eliminated from plasma. We observe a distributionphase within the first 2 min and a clearance in the following 10 min. From the se~og~ith~ca~y plotted clearance phase an apparent half-life of 1.6 min is calculated. Extrapolation of this straight line to zero timeshows that the tripeptide distributed completely into the extracellular space: if we assess the interstitial plus plasma volume with 21% of the subjects body weight (= 13 liters) we expected without clearance anequilibrium concentration of 25 wolfi. It seems that a considerable proportion of the administered glutathione has been oxidized to GSSG, although we cannot exclude that this GSSG might have been releasedfrom the ~trace~ular space. Using the borohyd~de reduction method [ 171, no mixed-disulfides could be detected. In vitro controls with the subject's whole blood or plasma indicated that neither GSH or GSSGare si~i~c~tly metabolized within 20 min at 25 ~mol/l.)Since IV injections have a short half life as described above--- We have chosen the LW NON transdermal Yage Glutathione boosters found at www.lifewave.com/fundingASDresearch ( a non profit website --in honor of my son--that donates proceeds to the Autism Research Institute) .--- ( OR at this time...PREFERABLY on www.lifewave.com/jhennings = who is a MB12 group mom with 6 children /some with ASD and fibromyalgia and I am helping her with this site...==PAY it FORWARD concept.)The Double Blind studies for the Glutathione boosters. show that Glutathione in blood levels INCREASED for all individuals tested-- an average of over 300% within a 24 hour period while wearing the Non-transdermal patch over the correct meridian. Also the detoxification of heavy metals, etc. of 30-100% occurred within 24-72 hours of wearing the LW Glutathione Booster .We have been extremely impressed by the results of wearing these patches...Here's just a FEW of the reason's..My husband's early stage of Shingles ( Herpe's virus) was halted within 2 days of wearing them --so he did not have to use the meds prescribed to him.I notice the detox in my skin as... brown spots are fading, wrinkles disappearing, & in kids the skin is smoother.Our IMMUNE systems have never been better than any other time in our lives... !Note: Glutathione levels have gone from 550 to 700 on several people using these patches after several months time...Other ASD children have smoother skin,and better immunity while wearing these patches and gains in behavior and in school.Hope that helps,Sue---------------------------------Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post

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13.

Acai / Yeast/ low sugar

Posted by: "jsthorpe" jsthorpe@... thorpe_sue

Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:12 pm (PST)

Hi Michele from Sue,I've had Diabetics test their blood sugar in my living room beforeand after they try Monavie juice and it goes DOWN after drinking it.You wondered if Monavie juice would cause a problem with yeast.Not likely... since the number of grams per 1 oz serving is 4g. And even if you had a 2 oz serving which is also recommendedthat would be 8 grams.... which is equivalent to 1 SERVING of RAW CARROTS.The ORAC value =(antioxidant level) of one serving of carrots is 171...and the Acai berry is 1027 ---so 2 oz. would be twice that... =2,054 divided by 171 = about 12 servings of carrots in antioxidant levels..yet the SAME in sugar grams... It's great to be able to get the equivalent of 12 servings of fruitsper day in nutrients and only consume 4-8 grams of sugar =NO MORE THAN ONE SERVING OF CARROTS...in sugar=8.grams.The Acai berry is VERY BITTER by itself and is the main ingredient of Monavie juice. EVEN When ADDING the 18 other fruits... the # of grams per serving is still less than carrots...The LOW sugar content of the ACAI berry offsets the other 18 fruits so the total is very low.I'm including a chart..( that might not come up very well)..but hopefully will show you the the stats on carrot nutrients... I'm BIG on whole foods since they have sooo many nutrients we cannotduplicate all in one pill that is as bioavailable.The trace nutrients in whole foods gives the synergy that neededfor good BALANCE increasing the effectiveness of absorption.Just imagine the amt. of nutrients of all 19 foods together... in Monavie.That's why top researchers came up with the ultimate mix that Monavie has.And the Acai berry itself LOSES nutrient value rapidly after harvested... that's why the freeze dried process =OPTI Acai tm --that Dr. Schauss has worked on for10 years..is so important. As the study shows.. all other processes are seven or more times LESS effective.. the Fresh berries transported LOSEtremendous amts of ORAC value..since it degrades within hours of picking.The OptiAcai process is done RIGHT IN BRAZIL within a short time of harvesting.Therefore it captures more antioxidants than any other berries transported or processed.See below the sugar content of carrots as well as the high number of nutrients typical of whole foods.Hope that helps,Sue:)Carrots, rawIn-depth nutrient analysis:Carrots, raw(Note: "--" indicates data is unavailable) amount 1.00 cup total weight 122.00 g Basic Components nutrient amount %DV calories 52.46 2.91 calories from fat 2.09 calories from saturated fat 0.33 protein 1.26 g 2.52 carbohydrates 12.37 g 4.12 dietary fiber 3.66 g 14.64 soluble fiber 1.54 g insoluble fiber 2.12 g sugar - total 8.05 g monosaccharides 2.44 g disaccharides 4.39 g other carbs 0.66 g fat - total 0.23 g 0.35 saturated fat 0.04 g 0.20 mono fat 0.01 g 0.04 poly fat 0.09 g 0.38 trans fatty acids 0.00 g cholesterol 0.00 mg 0.00 water 107.10 g ash 1.06 g Vitamins nutrient amount %DV vitamin A IU 34317.40 IU 686.35 vitamin A RE 3431.86 RE A - carotenoid 3431.86 RE 45.76 A - retinol 0.00 RE A - beta carotene 16678.60 mcg thiamin - B1 0.12 mg 8.00 riboflavin - B2 0.07 mg 4.12 niacin - B3 1.13 mg 5.65 niacin equiv 1.36 mg vitamin B6 0.18 mg 9.00 vitamin B12 0.00 mcg 0.00 biotin 6.10 mcg 2.03 vitamin C 11.35 mg 18.92 vitamin D IU 0.00 IU 0.00 vitamin D mcg 0.00 mcg vitamin E alpha equiv 0.56 mg 2.80 vitamin E IU 0.84 IU vitamin E mg 0.73 mg folate 17.08 mcg 4.27 vitamin K 16.10 mcg 20.13 pantothenic acid 0.24 mg 2.40 Minerals nutrient amount %DV boron 0.38 mcg calcium 32.94 mg 3.29 chloride -- mg chromium -- mcg -- copper 0.06 mg 3.00 fluoride -- mg -- iodine -- mcg -- iron 0.61 mg 3.39 magnesium 18.30 mg 4.58 manganese 0.17 mg 8.50 molybdenum 6.10 mcg 8.13 phosphorus 53.68 mg 5.37 potassium 394.06 mg selenium 1.34 mcg 1.91 sodium 42.70 mg zinc 0.24 mg 1.60 Saturated Fats nutrient amount %DV 4:0 butyric 0.00 g 6:0 caproic 0.00 g 8:0 caprylic 0.00 g 10:0 capric 0.00 g 12:0 lauric 0.00 g 14:0 myristic 0.00 g 15:0 pentadecanoic 0.00 g 16:0 palmitic 0.00 g 17:0 margaric 0.00 g 18:0 stearic 0.00 g 20:0 arachidic 0.00 g 22:0 behenate 0.00 g 24:0 lignoceric 0.00 g Mono Fats nutrient amount %DV 14:1 myristol 0.00 g 15:1 pentadecenoic 0.00 g 16:1 palmitol 0.00 g 17:1 heptadecenoic 0.00 g 18:1 oleic 0.01 g 20:1 eicosen 0.00 g 22:1 erucic 0.00 g 24:1 nervonic 0.00 g Poly Fats nutrient amount %DV 18:2 linoleic 0.08 g 18:3 linolenic 0.01 g 18:4 stearidon 0.00 g 20:3 eicosatrienoic 0.00 g 20:4 arachidon 0.00 g 20:5 EPA 0.00 g 22:5 DPA 0.00 g 22:6 DHA 0.00 g Other Fats nutrient amount %DV omega 3 fatty acids 0.01 g 0.42 omega 6 fatty acids 0.08 g Amino Acids nutrient amount %DV alanine 0.07 g arginine 0.05 g aspartate 0.17 g cystine 0.01 g 2.44 glutamate 0.25 g glycine 0.04 g histidine 0.02 g 1.55 isoleucine 0.05 g 4.35 leucine 0.05 g 1.98 lysine 0.05 g 2.13 methionine 0.01 g 1.35 phenylalanine 0.04 g 3.36 proline 0.04 g serine 0.04 g threonine 0.05 g 4.03 tryptophan 0.01 g 3.13 tyrosine 0.02 g 2.06 valine 0.05 g 3.40 Other nutrient amount %DV alcohol 0.00 g caffeine 0.00 mg artif sweetener total -- mg aspartame -- mg saccharin -- mg sugar alcohol -- g glycerol -- g inositol -- g mannitol -- g sorbitol -- g xylitol -- g organic acids -- mg acetic acid -- mg citric acid -- mg lactic acid -- mg malic acid -- mg choline -- mg -- taurine -- mg Note: The nutrient profiles provided in this website are derived from Food Processor for Windows, Version 7.60, by ESHA Research in Salem, Oregon, USA. Of the 21,629 food records contained in the ESHA foods database, most of them - including those of the World's Healthiest Foods - lacked information for specific nutrients. The designation "--" was chosen to represent those nutrients for which there was no measurement included in the ESHA foods database.

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Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:14 pm (PST)

Hi Tina and others from Sue,I've been noticing that the success of most treatmentsdepends upon several factors... 1. Dosage and duration seem to be foremost.. With Monavie... it is recommended to be consistentwith 1/4 cup twice daily for 3 months to see maximumeffectiveness... One bottle should last one person one week...So buying 2 -3 cases at a time is more cost effective and beneficial for a good trial.(If interested in discount info..email me at stsurewest (DOT) net .0Often times people will buy only one bottle and string out the servings for several weeks... and wonder whythere is no change. To give the best trial.. one bottle PER WEEK needs to be consumedfor 3 months is the norm... and being consistent is important."Shoot for 212 degree's " analogy--- by that I mean..that is the pointwhen water turns into steam.... Imagine yourself heating water on the stove... it takes time and different things effect it.If it's water by itself... it goes very quickly... then all of a sudden when enough heat is absorbed..it turns to steam...There a very fine line ONLY ONE DEGREE ...to get to steam.Many times... people give up before they get to steamon their supplements or treatments...2. Another factor is if we add things to the water..it slows down the process... In other words..sometimesdoing many supplements and treatments all at oncethrows the body off balance...and one CAN"T EXPERINCEthe good of each as they might interfere with each other.3. It's interesting that the best feedback I get from those who use both MonaVie juice and LW patches..are the families who are only doing one thing at a time.Then they can see the true benefits.of each.Hope that helps,SueRe: More on ACAI and 7 ASD recoveries /stories Posted by: "Tina" jtlgartrellverizon (DOT) net mysonlukej Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:24 pm (PST) I bought 2 bottles of MonaVie active a year ago for my 5 year old. He drank both of them. We didn't see any changes good or bad. For me MonaVie was one of those expensive supps that I'm glad I tried but wouldn't buy again. Glad it works for some folks. > > > >> > > > Ok, My son Ethan, 4.5yrs old, has been> regressing> > > the last 2 > > > > days...and its on and off throughout the> > > day...pretty weird, hope I > > > > can explain this...> > > > > > > > When Ethan gets a high fever, his eyes get> pretty> > > weird, his pupils > > > > get darker, and it seems like HE isnt> > > 'there'....however, for the > > > > first time 2 weeks ago (a week or so after we> > > stopped Nystatin by > > > > accident) He wasnt feeling well, complaining> of a> > > head > > > > ache...however, he had the scary blank eyes,> > > WITHOUT the > > > > fever...first time this ever happened, and he> was> > > listless just > > > like > > > > a fever...so we gave him tylenol (we use> > > supossitories (he hasnt > > > > taken anything orally unless it is hidden in> his> > > juice, and when he > > > > feels sick, he only drinks little by little> and I> > > wanted this to > > > work > > > > fast...anyway he hasnt taken anything orally> > > without jucie since a > > > > long stay 1.5 years ago at Childrens hosipital> for> > > a partially > > > > collapsed lung with pneumonia (sp?)....> > > > > > > > And about 10 minutes after the meds, he was up> and> > > playing with > > > > normal eyes, when it wore off that day, back> to> > > feeling listless > > > and > > > > scary eyes...so we gave meds that whole day> every> > > 4 hours....This > > > > lasted just one day and he was just fine the> next> > > day....> > > > > > > > Fastforward last week, suddenly his hyperness> has> > > been out of > > > > control, and I kind of figured it was due to> the> > > addition of TMG, > > > so > > > > I added more folinic acid (I plan to add> carnitine> > > after reading > > > > online the last few days about helping with> > > hyperness)....> > > > > > > > Then 2 days ago, he had the scary eyes again,> and> > > it was like one > > > > hour with scary eyes, then 3 without, and when> he> > > was hyper and > > > > almost out of control, he usually always had> the> > > weird scary eyes...> > > > (not that he 'acts' scary, his eyes are scary> to> > > look at for me > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

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