YELLOW TEETH problems caused by oxalate foods

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Hi from Sue,

Someone talked about their child having yellow teeth..lately..

so I found Owens old post on that ..Here it is..

( I hope it's ok to use your post again:)

Subject: Teeth problems caused by oxalate foods

Re: teeth looking bad quickly- HELP

Posted by: " Owens" lwo@... susancostenowens

Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:45 am (PST)

Bonita,We have found that some of the kids on a high oxalate version of SCD have had decalcification. I have one picture in our photo section an orthodontist sent me of a little girl who ate chocolate four times a day who developed big holes in her teeth.Are you on our oxalate list? I would suggest you join and then read the archives on teeth, so you can compare to what the other parents have said. The good news is that some kids do get their white teeth back after being on LOD for awhile.Oxalate can cause a "foreign matter" reaction that causes the immune system to get involved sometimes, and that can lead to gum problems and degeneration of the roots of the teeth that can be so bad that the teeth get loose and fall out. They've noticed this in the genetic hyperoxalurias.I don't know if the vitamin K is involved or not. This article perhaps suggests it might. Nephrocalcinosis can be caused by excess oxalates, but also other reasons.Am J Med Genet. 1985 Feb;20(2):233-43.LinksSyndrome of amelogenesis imperfecta, nephrocalcinosis, impaired renal concentration, and possible abnormality of calcium metabolism.<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Lubinsky%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1>Lubinsky M, <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Angle%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1>Angle C, <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Marsh%20PW%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1>Marsh PW, <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Witkop%20CJ%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1>Witkop CJ Jr.We describe a brother and sister with amelogenesis imperfecta, nephrocalcinosis and impaired renal concentrating ability. This is the second sibship reported, further substantiating autosomal recessive inheritance of this condition. There is lack of enamel, lifelong nocturnal enuresis, progressive punctate nephrocalcinosis, and decreased calcium and phosphate excretion over 24 hours and after an acute load. Increased serum osteocalcin and decreased urine delta-carboxyglutamic acid suggest involvement of vitamin K-dependent calcium binding proteins, although this may represent a secondary finding. No other evidence of abnormal calcium metabolism was found. Renal function is stable in the early teens, but the previously reported patients went on to renal failure.PMID: 3872071 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]At 09:19 AM 2/21/2008, you wrote:>I'm sending this to see if anyone has any ideas about my son's mouth. I'm >desperate to figure this out. I've got to somehow.>>I noticed about 2-3 weeks ago that my son's 2 lower front teeth had some >darker white/yellowish around the gumline on the teeth. One spot looked >like it is a whole or cavity type spot. Since then I've noticed that it >is spreading. He has this on several of his lower teeth. About 5 days >later, I noticed his back lower molar were gray around the gumline on the >teeth. In the last 3 weeks it has spread to all his lower molars. I'm >not sure about his upper as they are so much harder to see. His gumline >on one of his lower front teeth is way down now. I don't think I see root >yet though, but it is 1/4 to 1/2 inch lower than his gumline on his other >teeth. I also noticed all his teeth, even the gray ones (gray all over by >now) are clearish, dirty white looking all around the base of the whole >tooth. I'm wondering if they are decalcifying or something. Is he >severely short in certain vitamins/minerals? What is causing this? What >is the solution? I started him on the vit k protocol since this started >but he's not up to even 1 drop every day yet. I assumed this will help >some, hopefully. However, these changes are happening so >rapidly. Something is desperately wrong and I've got to find a solution quick.>>Bonita>>