Re: Benefit of antiviral without diet

[Guest guest]

This is my understanding, limited though it may be and I could be

completely off:

Valtrex will be beneficial against the viruses no matter what foods

are eaten. *But* if the diet isn't followed, you are still

triggering an immune response which is not helpful to the overall

protocol since the goal is to heal the immune system. So yes,

valtrex will still work but valtrex alone doesn't heal the immune

system.

cheryl

On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:07 PM, TRACY METHE wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I'm an infrequent poster from the Denver area. My son has Aspergers

> and had

> his SPECT scans and bloodwork done last November, after which his

> psychiatrist (who works remotely with Dr. Goldberg and also reads

> the scans

> at Denver's Brain Matters) put him on Valtrex and the diet. I was

> wondering if anyone knows if the antiviral can be beneficial if the

> diet

> isn't followed.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -

Cheryl is correct - the diet is actually very

important to the big picture. The antivirals are a

huge piece in suppressing some of the big players, but

the diet is critical for healing the gut. Dairy and

the other no-no's are significant players, and

any history of allergy and immune dysfunction or

autoimmunity needs diet restrictions.

Also, our kids have had significant gut damage during

their illness due to immune-mediated reactions, and

the diet is essential for reducing triggers.

To understand the importance, there are two important

things to know. All of our neurochemicals in the

brain are also present in our guts, and they

cross-talk. Gives new meaning to " You are what you

eat " . Also, the intestines are the largest part of

our immune system. Everything taking place in our

bodies are taking place in our gut. When we refer to

a strong feeling, we call it our " gut reactions " for a

reason. So our intestines may be as much a part

of our brain as the brain itself.

If your child has Asperger's, then he has problems

with foods.

Please discuss your reluctance to the diet, and

perhaps we can help. How old is your son? Is he of

an age where he can firmly refuse it? We can help you

with that too. Is it the overwhelming difficulty of

making the changes? I can definitely understand that,

and may be able to offer ways to help. I wish I had

had an instruction booklet, and maybe one day I'll

write one lol.

Perhaps a better motivator will be to find out what

the labs show. Ask what your son's eosiniphil levels

were on a CBC w/differential (I assume that was done).

They need to be below 1.5%, but that can still be

misleading if they ARE under - they still need the

diet anyway. My boys were usually under 1% yet still

highly reactive.

When you get the diet under control, after a year or

so the sensitivity may ease up and you get a bit more

freedom. The reward in seeing the brightness come

into your child's eyes or the dark circles go away ...

or the fog lift, or the connectedness start coming

back, or the body language relaxing, or the tantrums

reducing, or the laughs becoming more natural... the

rewards to getting the diet under control just can't

be measured. I'm not swearing that all that would

happen, but it can. My children aren't even all that

reactive, so I tend to get lax on the diet, not see a

negative right away, and start forgetting, and then I

see all those wonderful gains start slipping. I've

been at this years enough to know better, but I still

do sometimes. And each time, when I tighten it back

up, I see what it did.

I would be glad to help. I hate to say it's so

important but truly, it is. That being said, Dr G's

diet is soooooo much easier than any other diet you

will ever come across (for most people - I know about

you poor moms who have practically nothing to feed

your kids - and I wanna talk to you again about this

list I found...).

--- Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote:

> This is my understanding, limited though it may be

> and I could be

> completely off:

>

> Valtrex will be beneficial against the viruses no

> matter what foods

> are eaten. *But* if the diet isn't followed, you

> are still

> triggering an immune response which is not helpful

> to the overall

> protocol since the goal is to heal the immune

> system. So yes,

> valtrex will still work but valtrex alone doesn't

> heal the immune

> system.

>

> cheryl

>

> On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:07 PM, TRACY METHE wrote:

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I'm an infrequent poster from the Denver area. My

> son has Aspergers

> > and had

> > his SPECT scans and bloodwork done last November,

> after which his

> > psychiatrist (who works remotely with Dr. Goldberg

> and also reads

> > the scans

> > at Denver's Brain Matters) put him on Valtrex and

> the diet. I was

> > wondering if anyone knows if the antiviral can be

> beneficial if the

> > diet

> > isn't followed.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

Thanks for your responses. I don't have any reservations about the diet, and my

son has actually been very open to trying it. The problem is that we have

enrolled him in a boarding school and the school really isn't able to cater to

his dietary needs like we can at home. Given the situation, I was wondering if

it was still worthwhile continuing with the Valtrex. It sounds like it is, and

we recently bumped up his dose to 5 mg/2x day. During his leaves from school,

we will follow the diet as well.

Regards,

Re: Benefit of antiviral without diet

Hi -

Cheryl is correct - the diet is actually very

important to the big picture. The antivirals are a

huge piece in suppressing some of the big players, but

the diet is critical for healing the gut. Dairy and

the other no-no's are significant players, and

any history of allergy and immune dysfunction or

autoimmunity needs diet restrictions.

Also, our kids have had significant gut damage during

their illness due to immune-mediated reactions, and

the diet is essential for reducing triggers.

To understand the importance, there are two important

things to know. All of our neurochemicals in the

brain are also present in our guts, and they

cross-talk. Gives new meaning to " You are what you

eat " . Also, the intestines are the largest part of

our immune system. Everything taking place in our

bodies are taking place in our gut. When we refer to

a strong feeling, we call it our " gut reactions " for a

reason. So our intestines may be as much a part

of our brain as the brain itself.

If your child has Asperger's, then he has problems

with foods.

Please discuss your reluctance to the diet, and

perhaps we can help. How old is your son? Is he of

an age where he can firmly refuse it? We can help you

with that too. Is it the overwhelming difficulty of

making the changes? I can definitely understand that,

and may be able to offer ways to help. I wish I had

had an instruction booklet, and maybe one day I'll

write one lol.

Perhaps a better motivator will be to find out what

the labs show. Ask what your son's eosiniphil levels

were on a CBC w/differential (I assume that was done).

They need to be below 1.5%, but that can still be

misleading if they ARE under - they still need the

diet anyway. My boys were usually under 1% yet still

highly reactive.

When you get the diet under control, after a year or

so the sensitivity may ease up and you get a bit more

freedom. The reward in seeing the brightness come

into your child's eyes or the dark circles go away ...

or the fog lift, or the connectedness start coming

back, or the body language relaxing, or the tantrums

reducing, or the laughs becoming more natural... the

rewards to getting the diet under control just can't

be measured. I'm not swearing that all that would

happen, but it can. My children aren't even all that

reactive, so I tend to get lax on the diet, not see a

negative right away, and start forgetting, and then I

see all those wonderful gains start slipping. I've

been at this years enough to know better, but I still

do sometimes. And each time, when I tighten it back

up, I see what it did.

I would be glad to help. I hate to say it's so

important but truly, it is. That being said, Dr G's

diet is soooooo much easier than any other diet you

will ever come across (for most people - I know about

you poor moms who have practically nothing to feed

your kids - and I wanna talk to you again about this

list I found...).

--- Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...<mailto:c.lowrance%40ca.rr.com>>

wrote:

> This is my understanding, limited though it may be

> and I could be

> completely off:

>

> Valtrex will be beneficial against the viruses no

> matter what foods

> are eaten. *But* if the diet isn't followed, you

> are still

> triggering an immune response which is not helpful

> to the overall

> protocol since the goal is to heal the immune

> system. So yes,

> valtrex will still work but valtrex alone doesn't

> heal the immune

> system.

>

> cheryl

>

> On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:07 PM, TRACY METHE wrote:

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I'm an infrequent poster from the Denver area. My

> son has Aspergers

> > and had

> > his SPECT scans and bloodwork done last November,

> after which his

> > psychiatrist (who works remotely with Dr. Goldberg

> and also reads

> > the scans

> > at Denver's Brain Matters) put him on Valtrex and

> the diet. I was

> > wondering if anyone knows if the antiviral can be

> beneficial if the

> > diet

> > isn't followed.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

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