Re: Need some insights -- help!

[Guest guest]

Donna,

Could there be an illness coming on? Or maybe the increase in Prozac is

just now kicking in?

Caroline

[Guest guest]

Donna,

Has something happened at school that you don't know about?

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

princesspeach

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:06 AM

Subject: Need some insights -- help!

Hi guys,

has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we don't

understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is very,

very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable to

articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be absolutely

sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

ones in alternating succession).

What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

kinds of things can cause anxiety?

I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18 hours

before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the meantime,

are welcome!!

Thanks IA,

Donna

[Guest guest]

It could be the winds. I have heard of this before when the winds come

and kick up allergies. That plus the smoke could be it. I know my son

just went through five days of odd behavior and I'm trying to figure out

what happened and the only thing I can come up with is allergies (he is

coughing and sneezing a little more) or else he is fighting something

off. The three days in school really baffled his teacher too because she

had not seen the behaviors before, not to mention what his new

classmates must have thought. It's a mystery sometimes. I had my phone

consult and Dr G is convinced it is diet but I know of nothing different

he is eating and the school insists he is not getting anything there. So

what to do? Jerri P.S. If you figure it out let us know. I hope it is

a temporary thing for you.

princesspeach wrote:

> Hi guys,

>

> has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we don't

> understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

> been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is very,

> very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable to

> articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

>

> His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be absolutely

> sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> ones in alternating succession).

>

> What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> kinds of things can cause anxiety?

>

> I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18 hours

> before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the meantime,

> are welcome!!

>

> Thanks IA,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, or the list

moderator(s).

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Caroline,

We're watching him for an illness; so far, nothing unusual, and he

says he feels okay (which doesn't always mean he's not sick, but

that's another story...). He had a pretty dramatic adjustment period

of about 5-6 days when the prozac was raised, so I'm skeptical about

it being the prozac just kicking in now. But...I'm not ruling

anything out at this point.

Donna

>

> Donna,

>

> Could there be an illness coming on? Or maybe the increase in Prozac is

> just now kicking in?

>

> Caroline

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It's possible that he's anxious about a field trip that is going to

take place tomorrow. They are taking all the kids to see " Aladdin "

(the Disney musical stage play) at the Lancaster Performing Arts

Center, which is a fairly large venue. They took the kids to the same

theatre last year to see " Cats " , and he loved it. Other than that,

from what I've been able to find out, there was nothing out of the

ordinary today. But even so, he's never really been the type of kid

that gets very upset over a change in routine (that he's been prepared

for) IF his brain is functioning well.

For that reason, and also because his cheeks are suddenly very, very

red, I'm leaning toward a medical explanation.

Donna

>

> Donna,

>

> Has something happened at school that you don't know about?

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> princesspeach

> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:06 AM

>

> Subject: Need some insights -- help!

>

>

>

> Hi guys,

>

> has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we don't

> understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

> been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is very,

> very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable to

> articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

>

> His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be absolutely

> sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> ones in alternating succession).

>

> What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> kinds of things can cause anxiety?

>

> I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18 hours

> before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the meantime,

> are welcome!!

>

> Thanks IA,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Do our kids ever get to the point where their systems aren't so *fragile*?

Where they *can* handle things like smoky air or a food infraction, without

falling apart for days?

My 4 y.o. son is just starting his 3rd respiratory illness in the last 4-5

weeks (his twin is on her 2nd). Will this ever end?

Kristy

Re: Need some insights -- help!

It could be the winds. I have heard of this before when the winds come

and kick up allergies. That plus the smoke could be it. I know my son

just went through five days of odd behavior and I'm trying to figure out

what happened and the only thing I can come up with is allergies (he is

coughing and sneezing a little more) or else he is fighting something

off. The three days in school really baffled his teacher too because she

had not seen the behaviors before, not to mention what his new

classmates must have thought. It's a mystery sometimes. I had my phone

consult and Dr G is convinced it is diet but I know of nothing different

he is eating and the school insists he is not getting anything there. So

what to do? Jerri P.S. If you figure it out let us know. I hope it is

a temporary thing for you.

princesspeach wrote:

> Hi guys,

>

> has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we don't

> understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

> been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is very,

> very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable to

> articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

>

> His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be absolutely

> sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> ones in alternating succession).

>

> What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> kinds of things can cause anxiety?

>

> I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18 hours

> before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the meantime,

> are welcome!!

>

> Thanks IA,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, or

the list moderator(s).

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kristy, you just asked the $64,000 question!

I think it was Marcia H. who told me that her son eventually was able

to handle these kinds of " insults " much better, but it took a

looooonnnng time.

Donna

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we

don't

> > understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> > with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

> > been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> > until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> > pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is

very,

> > very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> > unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> > furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> > are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> > eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> > interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been

unable to

> > articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

> >

> > His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> > there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be

absolutely

> > sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> > from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> > area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> > plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> > ones in alternating succession).

> >

> > What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> > kinds of things can cause anxiety?

> >

> > I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18

hours

> > before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> > including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the

meantime,

> > are welcome!!

> >

> > Thanks IA,

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> > opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent

Coalition, or

> the list moderator(s).

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We have had several weeks of bad haze - today in particular and behaviours

were off.this is haze from Indonesia where farmers often burn after crops

are harvested - of course these are not well controlled and the jungke can

catch fire. Our Dr here says his cases of allergy, asthma and respiratory

ailments are very high during this period. He says that with burning there

is a lot of animal and insect protein that is kicked into the air that blows

- allergens!

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jerri

Gann

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: Need some insights -- help!

It could be the winds. I have heard of this before when the winds come

and kick up allergies. That plus the smoke could be it. I know my son

just went through five days of odd behavior and I'm trying to figure out

what happened and the only thing I can come up with is allergies (he is

coughing and sneezing a little more) or else he is fighting something

off. The three days in school really baffled his teacher too because she

had not seen the behaviors before, not to mention what his new

classmates must have thought. It's a mystery sometimes. I had my phone

consult and Dr G is convinced it is diet but I know of nothing different

he is eating and the school insists he is not getting anything there. So

what to do? Jerri P.S. If you figure it out let us know. I hope it is

a temporary thing for you.

princesspeach wrote:

> Hi guys,

>

> has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we don't

> understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

> been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is very,

> very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable to

> articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

>

> His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be absolutely

> sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> ones in alternating succession).

>

> What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> kinds of things can cause anxiety?

>

> I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18 hours

> before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the meantime,

> are welcome!!

>

> Thanks IA,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, or the

list moderator(s).

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm thinking there might be something to this...we've had nearly THREE

WEEKS of smoke from this fire that, at this point, is only about 20%

contained. Some days the smoke just hovers and the smell can be

overwhelming.

Donna

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we don't

> > understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> > with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

> > been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> > until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> > pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is very,

> > very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> > unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> > furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> > are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> > eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> > interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable to

> > articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

> >

> > His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> > there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be absolutely

> > sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> > from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> > area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> > plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> > ones in alternating succession).

> >

> > What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> > kinds of things can cause anxiety?

> >

> > I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18 hours

> > before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> > including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the meantime,

> > are welcome!!

> >

> > Thanks IA,

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> > opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition,

or the

> list moderator(s).

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kristy,

They do hit the point when their systems aren't so fragile. He used to

disinigrate with the smallest amount of dairy. When that happened I would

increase the water intake and exercise. But now there isn't much that can throw

off. He eats everything other kids his age do. (Don't tell Dr. G. about

the occassional pizza) Sometimes when he has an offending food (for him ice

cream) he gets a stomach ache and the runs, but it never affects his mind

anymore. When this happens, I just ask him what he ate and remind him he needs

to limit his intake. He now knows how to regulate this himself.

Recently, I have turned the meds over to , because next year he is off to

college and I won't be there to do it. Since he was feeling invincible, a bit

cocky, and like he no longer had Autism, he took it upon himself to not take the

afternoon antiviral. I didn't realize what was going on until I saw a kid who

was acting a bit Autistic and no longer feeling okay. Dr. G sat him down and

explained to him the repercussions of doing this and it hasn't been a problem

since. He is back in full force.

I know the point where most of you are now it seems this will never happen to

your kid. I too felt my kid would never get better. I was so envious of the

kids who did well and would sell my soul for that to happen to mine. Most of

what I did was so I wouldn't have guilt, if I ever had to place him somewhere.

He used to be so weird. I'm thankful for that guilt, because without it I would

have given up a long time ago and he never would have gotten better.

It is so hard to get up every day and keep teaching them everything everyone

else just learns. But you have to hang on. We are all they have and no one

else but a parent would take this job. It is such a slow process. It is not

like you wake up and one day they are better. It is more like one day you

notice they are a little less bizarre and you have one less thing you have to

teach them. Believe it or not this kid who is applying to Stanford, is getting

almost straight " A's " in high school, drives his friends to school, aced his

ACT, is taking 4 Advanced Placement classes his senior year of high school, just

won " athlete of the meet " in cross country out of 200 kids, still has a few

issues. He hates calling friends because he is still anxious about rejection.

(I think this is left over from when we lived in Minnesota and he was the target

of a group of bullies.) I still have to remind him to wash his face, brush his

teeth and put on deodorant. It is never done. It is hard to realize when

you're in the trenches, but looking back you can see what your efforts

accomplish. If I had known then what I know now, I wouldn't have been so

neurotic about every backslide and concentrated more on the big picture. But

you don't know that until you lived it. Hang in there and Donna call Dr. G's

office and tell them you need help now. Then call me and by putting our heads

together, maybe we can come up with something to do in the mean time.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

[Guest guest]

,

That's scary!! I forget where, but I recently read about all kinds of toxins

in garbage that when burned can be seriously damaging to even the healthiest

of immune systems.

Kristy

Re: Need some insights -- help!

It could be the winds. I have heard of this before when the winds come

and kick up allergies. That plus the smoke could be it. I know my son

just went through five days of odd behavior and I'm trying to figure out

what happened and the only thing I can come up with is allergies (he is

coughing and sneezing a little more) or else he is fighting something

off. The three days in school really baffled his teacher too because she

had not seen the behaviors before, not to mention what his new

classmates must have thought. It's a mystery sometimes. I had my phone

consult and Dr G is convinced it is diet but I know of nothing different

he is eating and the school insists he is not getting anything there. So

what to do? Jerri P.S. If you figure it out let us know. I hope it is

a temporary thing for you.

princesspeach wrote:

> Hi guys,

>

> has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we don't

> understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he had

> been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is very,

> very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable to

> articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

>

> His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be absolutely

> sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> ones in alternating succession).

>

> What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> kinds of things can cause anxiety?

>

> I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18 hours

> before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the meantime,

> are welcome!!

>

> Thanks IA,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, or

the

list moderator(s).

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -

With the sudden increase in anxiety, I would STRONGLY

expect it to be bacterial related, and I would also

expect that it would be along the lines of strep,

mycoplasma, something like that.

With the red red cheeks, I wonder... does it look like

scarlet fever? (You could do a search on the internet

for a picture). The red cheeks could be a symptom of

allergy or phenol intolerance, but that's usually food

allergy and you would have already seen that a LOT in

the past - it wouldn't be a new onset right now, and I

really don't believe it would be due to inhaled

allergies due to the fire. I DO think that the fire

and allergies would put him at very high risk of

bacterial infection in the sinuses or lungs - even

throat - and that the two together would be enough of

a stress for you to witness such a regression.

Symptoms of strep usually begin 3-5 days prior to the

actual infection. If your child is highly reactive to

the strep, you MAY not get actual strep throat, but

still see the results, so you really have to get a

throat culture. A rapid test may pick it up but if not

it's worth the culture too just to be absolutely sure

- especially if it's in the early stages of infection

and the immune system is suppressing it from being a

full-blown throat infection.

I really don't think, with the timing, that it's the

Prozac, but if you rule out infection and it doesn't

go away, you may consider asking Dr G if you can back

off on that dose increase for a couple of weeks to see

if it resolves. I doubt that that's it, but it could

be. Still, more likely onset of an illness. That

said, I have in the past reached 6 week marks only to

start suspecting that my SSRI isn't going so great for

me, which is why I wouldn't rule it out completely but

still aggressively pursue the other likelihood first.

I do usually associate diminishing eye contact with

viral infection, but I do witness it in my younger son

with mycoplasma. I think the immune response to

mycoplasma can be similar somehow to that of viral

infection, like it reduces WBCs, and I wonder if

that's one reason I see the eye contact diminish

w/mycoplasma. Also, anxiety and OCD are affected by

it about 50% as strongly as w/strep in my experience.

And the longer the infection goes on, the worse the

anxiety gets.

I do not think the upcoming changes at school is

responsible for the increase in anxiety. In my

experience w/myself and both of my children, when

they are biologically affected, they handle changes

and stress poorly, but my anxiety does not match the

situation, and does match my ASO titers, and does

match mycoplasma. Absolutely.

Good luck. And hang in there, as he will hopefully

bounce back!

--- Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> wrote:

> Donna,

>

> Could there be an illness coming on? Or maybe the

> increase in Prozac is

> just now kicking in?

>

> Caroline

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Donna,

Could it be lack of sleep? Mine got grand total of two meltdowns in

math class and TKD. I suspect the very fun sleep over to be the

couplit (the kids slepted about 6 hours total). He also told me he

feels fine, do not know why he just losed it. I made sure he he slept

enough time this past weekend, he has not troubles so far this week.

We just had med change to Paxil too.

But I think it most likely be getting a cold or some virus thing. it

is typical of having more autistic behaviors when he is getting

cold or flu. He does samething, running in circles, and acting as if

he from outer space, We have been work very hard to treat the sympotm

at the first sign of trouble, and adding extra cloth as soon as

possible.

Jin

>

> Hi guys,

>

> has taken a turn for the worse in the last 24 hours and we

don't

> understand why. He has been on prozac for a total of about 6 weeks,

> with an increase about three weeks ago. After the adjustment, he

had

> been making slow, but noticable, incremental improvements every day

> until last night (Tuesday), when he started to seem a bit anxious;

> pacing, circling around and around the table, etc. Today, he is

very,

> very anxious -- almost in a state of what I would describe as panic,

> unless he is playing his Sonic the Hedgehog video games -- and is

> furiously chewing up his lips and the skin around them so that they

> are very red and sore. He is NOT spacy, but he is perseverating and

> eye contact is poor. He is having a great, great deal of trouble

> interacting with anyone outside the family, and he has been unable

to

> articulate what is wrong. He says he feels fine (i.e., healthy).

>

> His food intake has been very tightly controlled, so I don't think

> there have been any infractions, but then again, I can't be

absolutely

> sure he didn't get ahold of some " contraband " at school. The smoke

> from the huge Day Fire (we live in the Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley

> area of CA) has been a problem in our area for the last two weeks,

> plus we have had winds and extremes in weather (cool days and warm

> ones in alternating succession).

>

> What are some of your experiences with this kind of backslide? What

> kinds of things can cause anxiety?

>

> I've sent an update to Dr. G's office, but it will be a good 18

hours

> before we hear anything...any and all advice and suggestions,

> including what I can do to make him more comfortable in the

meantime,

> are welcome!!

>

> Thanks IA,

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Kristy,

If I knew the answer of how to pay for college I would share it. I am still in

hock from the first kid going to college. I don't think anyone can afford

college anymore, even if you don't have kids as expensive as ours. But isn't

that a great problem to have? My kid who the shrinks said would end up in an

instution is well enough to go to college. If he does get into Stanford, which

is a big if (I think you have to be a star athlete or have a patent), I will be

going back to work full time after leaves for college. Right now I tutor

and work with affected kids, but it is not enough. My husband flys for an

airline (not the best place to be right now) and with all the pay cuts we are

not making it without the college expenses. I keep hoping that if I ever finish

that book about , I will help people as well as help us get out of hock.

But I am the richest woman in the world, because is better and you can't

buy that with all the money in the world. It is just easier to do if you have

the funds to hire people to help you teach them. I was not in that posititon

and had to do everything using only family and one therapist I trained myself

and to help me. taught me anything is possible.

Marcia