Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 wow....gobsmacked would be right And as for her attitude with the....'I wasn't like you' I wouldn't have been able to hold my tongue I'm sitting here wondering what would possess a surgeon to band A person who isnt at all overweight In fact I'm a bit speechless And well done on your loss Christy Leeanne -- Gobsmacked! Bizare experience on thursday. I went for a check up and was talking to a lady who was thinking of having the surgery. This other lady arrived and weighed in and made an off the cuff remark about not losing anything and "I only had a small cake and skim milk!". She looked fantastic! I couldn't help myself and asked "how much have you lost?" This very attractive average sized middle aged lady told me that she wasn't like me, but rather asked to have the band put on because she wanted it, but didn't need it. She said she was at the lowest limit of weight chart and had lost 5kg, but put 3kg back on when she went overseas. She then said that it was "harder to lose weight when you had so little to lose". I was gobsmacked! Apparently she had to pay $15k for her surgery because she didn't need it and was choosing to have it done (which makes me feel a little bette about it). I can't tell you how many mixed feelings I have about this. And it was all I could do not to harrangue my doctors (Dr T. happened to swan in soon after) about it. I mean who chooses this when there much less invasive procedures available that can do the same thing! To be honest, I was also feeling a little smug with myself, having lost 18kg and I quickly told the newbie that for someone like me, who has had the disease of obesity since childhood, the surgery was well worth it and the best thing I had ever done. Tootsie piped in that she chose to have the surgery so she didn't get "the disease"! Huh? [insert expletives here]!!! Christy ------------------------------------ PLEASE NOTE: If you experience any problems with any surgeons, doctors or other health professionals and their Code Of Conduct at any stage of your band journey, the arena you need to discuss this will be within the privacy of their surgery or rooms, with them not us. This is not a forum to air any grievances or defame a professional persons' reputation in any way, even if they have upset you immensely. Some Doctors are members of this group and may well read what you have said about them, and anything defamatory you say could lead to legal action being taken against you by the professional discussed. This is also not a forum to defame or slander any member on this site. We are individuals with different opinions and need to respect each other and each other's opinion. This journey is about support for all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Leanne took the words right out of my mouth... Why would anyone want the surgery if they didn't need it? More importantly how many are getting this done who don't need it?And a very big woo hoo to you for losing the 18kg To: SydBand Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2008 7:25:41 PMSubject: Re: Gobsmacked! wow....gobsmacked would be right And as for her attitude with the....'I wasn't like you' I wouldn't have been able to hold my tongue I'm sitting here wondering what would possess a surgeon to band A person who isnt at all overweight In fact I'm a bit speechless And well done on your loss Christy Leeanne -- Gobsmacked! Bizare experience on thursday. I went for a check up and was talking to a lady who was thinking of having the surgery. This other lady arrived and weighed in and made an off the cuff remark about not losing anything and "I only had a small cake and skim milk!". She looked fantastic! I couldn't help myself and asked "how much have you lost?" This very attractive average sized middle aged lady told me that she wasn't like me, but rather asked to have the band put on because she wanted it, but didn't need it. She said she was at the lowest limit of weight chart and had lost 5kg, but put 3kg back on when she went overseas. She then said that it was "harder to lose weight when you had so little to lose". I was gobsmacked! Apparently she had to pay $15k for her surgery because she didn't need it and was choosing to have it done (which makes me feel a little bette about it). I can't tell you how many mixed feelings I have about this. And it was all I could do not to harrangue my doctors (Dr T. happened to swan in soon after) about it. I mean who chooses this when there much less invasive procedures available that can do the same thing! To be honest, I was also feeling a little smug with myself, having lost 18kg and I quickly told the newbie that for someone like me, who has had the disease of obesity since childhood, the surgery was well worth it and the best thing I had ever done. Tootsie piped in that she chose to have the surgery so she didn't get "the disease"! Huh? [insert expletives here]!!! Christy ------------ --------- --------- ------ PLEASE NOTE: If you experience any problems with any surgeons, doctors or other health professionals and their Code Of Conduct at any stage of your band journey, the arena you need to discuss this will be within the privacy of their surgery or rooms, with them not us. This is not a forum to air any grievances or defame a professional persons' reputation in any way, even if they have upset you immensely. Some Doctors are members of this group and may well read what you have said about them, and anything defamatory you say could lead to legal action being taken against you by the professional discussed. This is also not a forum to defame or slander any member on this site. We are individuals with different opinions and need to respect each other and each other's opinion. This journey is about support for all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Hi Girls, Usually I'm only reading the daily digest - I'm a bit short on time lately :-) ....but I can't help adding my 5 cents worth about the surgeon: If it's the same one I heard about (Dr C. T.) then he's the only surgeon doing lap banding who's driving a red FERRARI ! I can imagine that one has to work hard (and can't be too choosy) to show off :-) Cheers, > > Leanne took the words right out of my mouth... Why would anyone want the surgery if they didn't need it? More importantly how many are getting this done who don't need it? > > And a very big woo hoo to you for losing the 18kg > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: SydBand > Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2008 7:25:41 PM > Subject: Re: Gobsmacked! > > > > wow....gobsmacked would be right > > And as for her attitude with the....'I wasn't like you' > I wouldn't have been able to hold my tongue > > I'm sitting here wondering what would possess a surgeon to band > A person who isnt at all overweight > > In fact I'm a bit speechless > > And well done on your loss Christy > > Leeanne > > -- Gobsmacked! > > Bizare experience on thursday. I went for a check up and was talking > to a lady who was thinking of having the surgery. This other lady > arrived and weighed in and made an off the cuff remark about not > losing anything and " I only had a small cake and skim milk! " . She > looked fantastic! I couldn't help myself and asked " how much have > you lost? " > > This very attractive average sized middle aged lady told me that she > wasn't like me, but rather asked to have the band put on because she > wanted it, but didn't need it. She said she was at the lowest limit > of weight chart and had lost 5kg, but put 3kg back on when she went > overseas. She then said that it was " harder to lose weight when you > had so little to lose " . > > I was gobsmacked! Apparently she had to pay $15k for her surgery > because she didn't need it and was choosing to have it done (which > makes me feel a little bette about it). > > I can't tell you how many mixed feelings I have about this. And it > was all I could do not to harrangue my doctors (Dr T. happened to > swan in soon after) about it. I mean who chooses this when there > much less invasive procedures available that can do the same thing! > > To be honest, I was also feeling a little smug with myself, having > lost 18kg and I quickly told the newbie that for someone like me, who > has had the disease of obesity since childhood, the surgery was well > worth it and the best thing I had ever done. Tootsie piped in that > she chose to have the surgery so she didn't get " the disease " ! > > Huh? [insert expletives here]!!! > > Christy > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > PLEASE NOTE: If you experience any problems with any surgeons, doctors or other health professionals and their Code Of Conduct at any stage of your band journey, the arena you need to discuss this will be within the privacy of their surgery or rooms, with them not us. > > This is not a forum to air any grievances or defame a professional persons' reputation in any way, even if they have upset you immensely. Some Doctors are members of this group and may well read what you have said about them, and anything defamatory you say could lead to legal action being taken against you by the professional discussed. > > This is also not a forum to defame or slander any member on this site. We are individuals with different opinions and need to respect each other and each other's opinion. This journey is about support for all of us. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 > > > > Bizare experience on thursday. I went for a check up and was talking > > to a lady who was thinking of having the surgery. This other lady > > arrived and weighed in and made an off the cuff remark about not > > losing anything and " I only had a small cake and skim milk! " . She > > looked fantastic! I couldn't help myself and asked " how much have > > you lost? " > > > > This very attractive average sized middle aged lady told me that she > > wasn't like me, but rather asked to have the band put on because she > > wanted it, but didn't need it. She said she was at the lowest limit > > of weight chart and had lost 5kg, but put 3kg back on when she went > > overseas. She then said that it was " harder to lose weight when you > > had so little to lose " . > > > > I was gobsmacked! Apparently she had to pay $15k for her surgery > > because she didn't need it and was choosing to have it done (which > > makes me feel a little bette about it). > > > > I can't tell you how many mixed feelings I have about this. And it > > was all I could do not to harrangue my doctors (Dr T. happened to > > swan in soon after) about it. I mean who chooses this when there > > much less invasive procedures available that can do the same thing! > > > > To be honest, I was also feeling a little smug with myself, having > > lost 18kg and I quickly told the newbie that for someone like me, who > > has had the disease of obesity since childhood, the surgery was well > > worth it and the best thing I had ever done. Tootsie piped in that > > she chose to have the surgery so she didn't get " the disease " ! > > > > Huh? [insert expletives here]!!! > > > > Christy > > > Beth, That is where I go and he is also my surgeon. But I too have to add my 5cents worth...well, its more like 50cent worth. Why on earth would you have surgery if you don't need it for health reasons. Ive been banded for 5 weeks this coming week and have lost 18kgs since I started optifast 2 weeks preop. Ive been a big girl my entire life and it took me 2yrs of research and courage to have the surgery and I am sooooo thankful that this was an option available to me. It makes me mad when someone pays that much for an operation that is not actually needed when there are people who can not scrape the money together to have it done who actually need it. It also makes me wonder where her mental state is at? Christy...congrats on the weight loss its fantastic. Kylie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I alos wouldnt have been able to hold my tongue OR facial expression!!! last week i went for fill 3 and felt ok with my small but still ok loos so far of 15 kilos but that day i got overweight remarks and innuendos from everyone for soem reason it can be hard to stay postive. > > > wow....gobsmacked would be right > > And as for her attitude with the....'I wasn't like you' > I wouldn't have been able to hold my tongue > > I'm sitting here wondering what would possess a surgeon to band > A person who isnt at all overweight > > In fact I'm a bit speechless > > And well done on your loss Christy > > Leeanne > > -- Gobsmacked! > > Bizare experience on thursday. I went for a check up and was talking > to a lady who was thinking of having the surgery. This other lady > arrived and weighed in and made an off the cuff remark about not > losing anything and " I only had a small cake and skim milk! " . She > looked fantastic! I couldn't help myself and asked " how much have > you lost? " > > This very attractive average sized middle aged lady told me that she > wasn't like me, but rather asked to have the band put on because she > wanted it, but didn't need it. She said she was at the lowest limit > of weight chart and had lost 5kg, but put 3kg back on when she went > overseas. She then said that it was " harder to lose weight when you > had so little to lose " . > > I was gobsmacked! Apparently she had to pay $15k for her surgery > because she didn't need it and was choosing to have it done (which > makes me feel a little bette about it). > > I can't tell you how many mixed feelings I have about this. And it > was all I could do not to harrangue my doctors (Dr T. happened to > swan in soon after) about it. I mean who chooses this when there > much less invasive procedures available that can do the same thing! > > To be honest, I was also feeling a little smug with myself, having > lost 18kg and I quickly told the newbie that for someone like me, who > has had the disease of obesity since childhood, the surgery was well > worth it and the best thing I had ever done. Tootsie piped in that > she chose to have the surgery so she didn't get " the disease " ! > > Huh? [insert expletives here]!!! > > Christy > > > ------------------------------------ > > PLEASE NOTE: If you experience any problems with any surgeons, doctors or > other health professionals and their Code Of Conduct at any stage of your > band journey, the arena you need to discuss this will be within the privacy > of their surgery or rooms, with them not us. > > This is not a forum to air any grievances or defame a professional persons' > reputation in any way, even if they have upset you immensely. Some Doctors > are members of this group and may well read what you have said about them, > and anything defamatory you say could lead to legal action being taken > against you by the professional discussed. > > This is also not a forum to defame or slander any member on this site. We > are individuals with different opinions and need to respect each other and > each other's opinion. This journey is about support for all of us. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Glad to hear it wasn't CT at Ashfield. He seems too on the ball to even consider people not really in need of the operation. And when you do the maths why would you bother 1. financially with lapbanding let alone 2. the fact that it isn't an easy or quick fix. > No the dr isn't CT at ashfield, but Dr MT at St ! I wouldn't have > thought he would do this as he seems like such an ethical man. > > I think you're point that she considered it a cosmetic procedure > seems to make sense. Maybe she's one of those surgery junkies. Not sure. > > I'm glad to know I'm not the only one feeling so engraged by it. > I'm also reminded that the literature suggests that the band will only > help you lose 60-70% of your excess weight - so really 2kg from 5kg > excess weight is about that - sucked in tootsie!!!! ROFL > > > Christy ;-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Christy I can't see MT doing it either, I wouldn't be surprised if he inherited the patient from another doctor. He is way to ethical to do it. He even said to me when I initially went that my BMI at the time might be too high for him to do it successfully and safely. To: SydBand Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 3:05:17 PMSubject: Re: Gobsmacked! No the dr isn't CT at ashfield, but Dr MT at St ! I wouldn't have thought he would do this as he seems like such an ethical man. I think you're point that she considered it a cosmetic procedure seems to make sense. Maybe she's one of those surgery junkies. Not sure.I'm glad to know I'm not the only one feeling so engraged by it. I'm also reminded that the literature suggests that the band will only help you lose 60-70% of your excess weight - so really 2kg from 5kg excess weight is about that - sucked in tootsie!!!! ROFLChristy ;-) Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Hi all, It has been a very long time since I have chimed in, and I know alot of you won't necessarily know me, but I feel the need to jump in here quickly. Firstly, we don't know the full story about this woman (with the low BMI), she said that she was on the " border " of being able to have surgery, this could mean that she is just under the BMI rate, however, she could suffer some serioius co-morbidities which pushes her eligibility up, this information we don't readily have. As for the money that she spent, she could have seriously meant that she had to pay more money because she wanted it now and didn't have the appropriate health cover, which would put her in the sum of around $15,000. We really need to have all our information very acurate before we start talking about surgeons and their morals, I know that only initials have been used, however, we, all in the banded world know who we are talking about. Now please don't get me wrong, because at times it all seems hard and unfair, and it seems that there are people out there that are purely cosmetic about this whole thing, but please let's all be careful when we are talking about people/surgeons, and their practices. Thanks for listening, and I hope that you all understand where I am coming from. Luv Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Fair Comment Andi I wasn't too happy with the maligned comment my surgeon received by one respondent. As you say we don't know the woman who caused the gobsmack story only the reaction she caused from one of our own. And that reaction is still valid. We all feel vulnerable when the issue of our weight and losses are confronted by people we feel don't perhaps take the seriousness of this lifechanging procedure as seriously. Despite your own comments, obviously it was the tone our writer was confronted with that caused them to write in the first place.>> Hi all,> > It has been a very long time since I have chimed in, and I know alot > of you won't necessarily know me, but I feel the need to jump in here > quickly.> > Firstly, we don't know the full story about this woman (with the low > BMI), she said that she was on the "border" of being able to have > surgery, this could mean that she is just under the BMI rate, > however, she could suffer some serioius co-morbidities which pushes > her eligibility up, this information we don't readily have.> > As for the money that she spent, she could have seriously meant that > she had to pay more money because she wanted it now and didn't have > the appropriate health cover, which would put her in the sum of > around $15,000.> > We really need to have all our information very acurate before we > start talking about surgeons and their morals, I know that only > initials have been used, however, we, all in the banded world know > who we are talking about. > > Now please don't get me wrong, because at times it all seems hard and > unfair, and it seems that there are people out there that are purely > cosmetic about this whole thing, but please let's all be careful when > we are talking about people/surgeons, and their practices.> > Thanks for listening, and I hope that you all understand where I am > coming from.> > Luv Andi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Hi Andi You know your right to remind us we don't have the facts I'm always judging people who judge people....groan And I have jumped in and done just that For all we know the lady may have medical issues or family members with obesity etc etc I wish her success Hugs Leeanne -- Re: Gobsmacked! Hi all, It has been a very long time since I have chimed in, and I know alot of you won't necessarily know me, but I feel the need to jump in here quickly. Firstly, we don't know the full story about this woman (with the low BMI), she said that she was on the "border" of being able to have surgery, this could mean that she is just under the BMI rate, however, she could suffer some serioius co-morbidities which pushes her eligibility up, this information we don't readily have. As for the money that she spent, she could have seriously meant that she had to pay more money because she wanted it now and didn't have the appropriate health cover, which would put her in the sum of around $15,000. We really need to have all our information very acurate before we start talking about surgeons and their morals, I know that only initials have been used, however, we, all in the banded world know who we are talking about. Now please don't get me wrong, because at times it all seems hard and unfair, and it seems that there are people out there that are purely cosmetic about this whole thing, but please let's all be careful when we are talking about people/surgeons, and their practices. Thanks for listening, and I hope that you all understand where I am coming from. Luv Andi ------------------------------------ PLEASE NOTE: If you experience any problems with any surgeons, doctors or other health professionals and their Code Of Conduct at any stage of your band journey, the arena you need to discuss this will be within the privacy of their surgery or rooms, with them not us. This is not a forum to air any grievances or defame a professional persons' reputation in any way, even if they have upset you immensely. Some Doctors are members of this group and may well read what you have said about them, and anything defamatory you say could lead to legal action being taken against you by the professional discussed. This is also not a forum to defame or slander any member on this site. We are individuals with different opinions and need to respect each other and each other's opinion. This journey is about support for all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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