Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Hey Patty, Thanks for your post on CoQ10. I have been seeing more and more on this and was wondering whether or not I should purchase it...seems perhaps I should. There are so many supplements out there it's hard to know what you should take and what you shouldn't! 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Links, however, can be made to articles on this site. > page by CGR Productions > > RFW SECOND OPINION > > October 17, 2002 > > Second Opinion > > NEGLECTING THE IMPORTANCE OF COENZYME Q10 > > Conventional Medicine Remains Blind To The Powerful Nutrient > > By Regush > > I learned many moons back in graduate school that new medical information takes a long time to get moving and grooving. Back then, medical sociologists politely referred to this lag time as the " process of disseminating information. " They spoke of opinion leaders (the know-it-alls) and the intermediaries (the lesser know-it- alls) and so on. How very civil and quaint. Even in those days, this rather kind and gentle approach to the Medical Establishment gave me gas. The very same process can be called " the protection of vested interests. " Or, it might even be called the " power of corruption. " > > One thing is certain: many doctors and scientists are blind to new ideas because: a) they have their pet theories and learn to protect them at any cost; new ideas are not where the research grant money is going (because it's going to the " network " folks who basically wink and deal with their own kind; and c) they are too ignorant to know any better. > > The case of Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10)is a terrific example of how modern medicine prevents progress. This is a nutrient that is made by the body - your body and mine. It is a vital nutrient because it helps cells to produce energy. As we age we lose much of our supply of CoQ10 - especially in the heart. Does replenishing it make any sense? > > So big deal if patients with congestive heart failure, who are given CoQ10, show signs of improvement. And double big deal if research also shows that CoQ10 helps the heart muscle to pump more efficiently and to better tolerate stress (also, by the way, leading to better recovery after heart surgery). And who gives a hoot if other research shows CoQ10 may be of value in the treatment of High Blood Pressure, Parkinson's, Huntington's, Alzheimers's, Cancer, Fibromyalgia Arthritis and other illnesses? Certainly not the Medical Establishment. > > Most cardiologists and neurologists remain blind to the potential restorative power of CoQ10. > > Let's leave aside the notion that ignorance is a factor in this blindness. Let's focus our attention on turf protection and big bucks. Those involved in CoQ10 research are acutely aware that the widespread use of " statins " or cholesterol pills (the ones shamelessly advertised ad nauseum on TV and in medical journals) are causing CoQ10 depletion in patients, particularly those with heart failure. In fact, cardiologist Langsjoen, who has conducted pioneering research on CoQ10, has voiced his concern that this cholesterol obsession has led to an epidemic in congestive heart failure. Well, hey, follow the money, to the drug companies that are making a killing on cholesterol pills, along with their cardiology lackeys. > > I've changed my mind; let's also bring up " ignorance " after all. There are more than one dozen clinical trials published that reveal that statins are depleting people of their CoQ10. Can't cardiologists read? Answer: Not when they are blinded by money. > > I guess we're in for more slow moves in the future. The combination of money and ignorance is too much to overcome quickly. > > FOR MORE INFORMATION, READ NICHOLAS REGUSH'S EXTENSIVE RFW REPORT ON COENZYME Q10 - A THOROUGH UP-TO-DATE REVIEW AND ASSESSMENT OF THE SCIENCE ON COENZYME Q10, THE CURRENT MEDICAL USES OF THE NUTRIENT, AND ITS POTENTIAL FOR USE IN A WIDE RANGE OF ILLNESSES. 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Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Hi Keli, I need to double check my 'address book' for e's current email address, as it has changed a couple of times recently. I have e Rene E-mail Address(es): e_Rene@... (there is an underscore between e_Rene! Will someone let me know if this is correctm please? Many thanks!. Martha Murdock, Director National Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters " Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices " 4416 Willow Lane Dallas, TX 75244-7537 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Keli " <AussieExplant@...> < > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:06 AM Subject: Re: CoQ10 Hey Patty, Thanks for your post on CoQ10. I have been seeing more and more on this and was wondering whether or not I should purchase it...seems perhaps I should. There are so many supplements out there it's hard to know what you should take and what you shouldn't! Cheers, Keli. > Redflagsweekly.com > > Redflagsweekly.com > printer friendly > email to a friend > > RAISING ISSUES, FACING CONTROVERSIES, EXPLORING IDEAS > In Health, Medical Science And Personal Growth > > > > > Home > Site Philosophy > Services And Products > Editor's Notes > Storm Warnings > New Frontiers > Thursday Report > Extra! > Columnists > Regush > Barbara > Mark Elliot > Altschuler > Meryl Nass, MD > Urnovitz, Ph.d > Connett, Ph.d > Marilyn Holasek Lloyd > And Tory Mead > Crowe > RFW Debate > Special Features > Scandals > Investigations > Weekly Controversy > Honors > Scream of the Week > Media Watch > Freedom > My Story > Discovery > E-Raspberry > More Red Flags > Imagination > Health Issues > Arts > Explorations > Feedback > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sign up to receive > our free newsletter. > > Email Address: > > > > > Privacy Statement > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Copyright ©2001-2002 > It is prohibited by copyright law to quote, in whole or in part, from any article on this site, without the expressed consent of the author of the article. Links, however, can be made to articles on this site. > page by CGR Productions > > RFW SECOND OPINION > > October 17, 2002 > > Second Opinion > > NEGLECTING THE IMPORTANCE OF COENZYME Q10 > > Conventional Medicine Remains Blind To The Powerful Nutrient > > By Regush > > I learned many moons back in graduate school that new medical information takes a long time to get moving and grooving. Back then, medical sociologists politely referred to this lag time as the " process of disseminating information. " They spoke of opinion leaders (the know-it-alls) and the intermediaries (the lesser know-it- alls) and so on. How very civil and quaint. Even in those days, this rather kind and gentle approach to the Medical Establishment gave me gas. The very same process can be called " the protection of vested interests. " Or, it might even be called the " power of corruption. " > > One thing is certain: many doctors and scientists are blind to new ideas because: a) they have their pet theories and learn to protect them at any cost; new ideas are not where the research grant money is going (because it's going to the " network " folks who basically wink and deal with their own kind; and c) they are too ignorant to know any better. > > The case of Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10)is a terrific example of how modern medicine prevents progress. This is a nutrient that is made by the body - your body and mine. It is a vital nutrient because it helps cells to produce energy. As we age we lose much of our supply of CoQ10 - especially in the heart. Does replenishing it make any sense? > > So big deal if patients with congestive heart failure, who are given CoQ10, show signs of improvement. And double big deal if research also shows that CoQ10 helps the heart muscle to pump more efficiently and to better tolerate stress (also, by the way, leading to better recovery after heart surgery). And who gives a hoot if other research shows CoQ10 may be of value in the treatment of High Blood Pressure, Parkinson's, Huntington's, Alzheimers's, Cancer, Fibromyalgia Arthritis and other illnesses? Certainly not the Medical Establishment. > > Most cardiologists and neurologists remain blind to the potential restorative power of CoQ10. > > Let's leave aside the notion that ignorance is a factor in this blindness. Let's focus our attention on turf protection and big bucks. Those involved in CoQ10 research are acutely aware that the widespread use of " statins " or cholesterol pills (the ones shamelessly advertised ad nauseum on TV and in medical journals) are causing CoQ10 depletion in patients, particularly those with heart failure. In fact, cardiologist Langsjoen, who has conducted pioneering research on CoQ10, has voiced his concern that this cholesterol obsession has led to an epidemic in congestive heart failure. Well, hey, follow the money, to the drug companies that are making a killing on cholesterol pills, along with their cardiology lackeys. > > I've changed my mind; let's also bring up " ignorance " after all. There are more than one dozen clinical trials published that reveal that statins are depleting people of their CoQ10. Can't cardiologists read? Answer: Not when they are blinded by money. > > I guess we're in for more slow moves in the future. The combination of money and ignorance is too much to overcome quickly. > > FOR MORE INFORMATION, READ NICHOLAS REGUSH'S EXTENSIVE RFW REPORT ON COENZYME Q10 - A THOROUGH UP-TO-DATE REVIEW AND ASSESSMENT OF THE SCIENCE ON COENZYME Q10, THE CURRENT MEDICAL USES OF THE NUTRIENT, AND ITS POTENTIAL FOR USE IN A WIDE RANGE OF ILLNESSES. 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Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Martha, My current and new email address is: justinerene1@... Sorry for all the changes, but I was just having so many problems with MSN, that they forced me to create a new email. e ----- Original Message ----- From: MARTHA Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: CoQ10 Hi Keli,I need to double check my 'address book' for e's current emailaddress, as it has changed a couple of times recently. I have e ReneE-mail Address(es): e_Rene@... (there is an underscore betweene_Rene!Will someone let me know if this is correctm please?Many thanks!.Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537----- Original Message -----From: "Keli" <AussieExplant@...>< >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:06 AMSubject: Re: CoQ10Hey Patty,Thanks for your post on CoQ10. I have been seeing more and more onthis and was wondering whether or not I should purchase it...seemsperhaps I should. There are so many supplements out there it's hardto know what you should take and what you shouldn't!Cheers,Keli.> Redflagsweekly.com>> Redflagsweekly.com> printer friendly> email to a friend>> RAISING ISSUES, FACING CONTROVERSIES, EXPLORING IDEAS> In Health, Medical Science And Personal Growth>>>>> Home> Site Philosophy> Services And Products> Editor's Notes> Storm Warnings> New Frontiers> Thursday Report> Extra!> Columnists> Regush> Barbara > Mark Elliot> Altschuler> Meryl Nass, MD> Urnovitz, Ph.d> Connett, Ph.d> Marilyn Holasek Lloyd> And Tory Mead> Crowe> RFW Debate> Special Features> Scandals> Investigations> Weekly Controversy> Honors> Scream of the Week> Media Watch> Freedom> My Story> Discovery> E-Raspberry> More Red Flags> Imagination> Health Issues> Arts> Explorations> Feedback>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------->> Sign up to receive> our free newsletter.>> Email Address:>>>>> Privacy Statement>> -------------------------------------------------------------->> Copyright ©2001-2002> It is prohibited by copyright law to quote, inwhole or in part, from any article on this site, without theexpressed consent of the author of the article. Links, however, canbe made to articles on this site.> page by CGR Productions>> RFW SECOND OPINION>> October 17, 2002>> Second Opinion>> NEGLECTING THE IMPORTANCE OF COENZYME Q10>> Conventional Medicine Remains Blind To ThePowerful Nutrient>> By Regush>> I learned many moons back in graduate school thatnew medical information takes a long time to get moving and grooving.Back then, medical sociologists politely referred to this lag time asthe "process of disseminating information." They spoke of opinionleaders (the know-it-alls) and the intermediaries (the lesser know-it-alls) and so on. How very civil and quaint. Even in those days, thisrather kind and gentle approach to the Medical Establishment gave megas. The very same process can be called "the protection of vestedinterests." Or, it might even be called the "power of corruption.">> One thing is certain: many doctors and scientistsare blind to new ideas because: a) they have their pet theories andlearn to protect them at any cost; new ideas are not where theresearch grant money is going (because it's going to the "network"folks who basically wink and deal with their own kind; and c) theyare too ignorant to know any better.>> The case of Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10)is a terrificexample of how modern medicine prevents progress. This is a nutrientthat is made by the body - your body and mine. It is a vital nutrientbecause it helps cells to produce energy. As we age we lose much ofour supply of CoQ10 - especially in the heart. Does replenishing itmake any sense?>> So big deal if patients with congestive heartfailure, who are given CoQ10, show signs of improvement. And doublebig deal if research also shows that CoQ10 helps the heart muscle topump more efficiently and to better tolerate stress (also, by theway, leading to better recovery after heart surgery). And who gives ahoot if other research shows CoQ10 may be of value in the treatmentof High Blood Pressure, Parkinson's, Huntington's, Alzheimers's,Cancer, Fibromyalgia Arthritis and other illnesses? Certainly not theMedical Establishment.>> Most cardiologists and neurologists remain blindto the potential restorative power of CoQ10.>> Let's leave aside the notion that ignorance is afactor in this blindness. Let's focus our attention on turfprotection and big bucks. Those involved in CoQ10 research areacutely aware that the widespread use of "statins" or cholesterolpills (the ones shamelessly advertised ad nauseum on TV and inmedical journals) are causing CoQ10 depletion in patients,particularly those with heart failure. In fact, cardiologist Langsjoen, who has conducted pioneering research on CoQ10, has voicedhis concern that this cholesterol obsession has led to an epidemic incongestive heart failure. Well, hey, follow the money, to the drugcompanies that are making a killing on cholesterol pills, along withtheir cardiology lackeys.>> I've changed my mind; let's also bringup "ignorance" after all. There are more than one dozen clinicaltrials published that reveal that statins are depleting people oftheir CoQ10. Can't cardiologists read? Answer: Not when they areblinded by money.>> I guess we're in for more slow moves in thefuture. The combination of money and ignorance is too much toovercome quickly.>> FOR MORE INFORMATION, READ NICHOLAS REGUSH'SEXTENSIVE RFW REPORT ON COENZYME Q10 - A THOROUGH UP-TO-DATE REVIEWAND ASSESSMENT OF THE SCIENCE ON COENZYME Q10, THE CURRENT MEDICALUSES OF THE NUTRIENT, AND ITS POTENTIAL FOR USE IN A WIDE RANGE OFILLNESSES. 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Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 You need to take more than that.. I would suggest a dosage of around 300 - 400.. possibly more depending on your condition. I have gum problems and take about 120 mg. a day of Co-enzyme Q10. BIG HELP! I'd like to take even more. The biggest problem is the cost. I'm using up the bottles I got for $1.00 each and don't know what I'll do once they're gone. I don't think you can overdose on Q10. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 make yourself some super tonic or echinacea plus and apply to your gums... also make some lemon egg or organic calcium in the files and take every day. This will help. SuziMorningGlory113@... wrote: You need to take more than that.. I would suggest a dosage of around 300 - 400.. possibly more depending on your condition.I have gum problems and take about 120 mg. a day of Co-enzyme Q10. BIG HELP! I'd like to take even more. The biggest problem is the cost. I'm using up the bottles I got for $1.00 each and don't know what I'll do once they're gone. I don't think you can overdose on Q10.Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 add some garlic and cayenne to that echinacea. SuziMorningGlory113@... wrote: make yourself some super tonic or echinacea plus and apply to your gums... also make some lemon egg or organic calcium in the files and take every day.I rub echinacea and also T & G formula on them. I have yet to make the lemon egg. I keep putting it off, but will definitely get to it this coming week! Thanks!Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 yes.MorningGlory113@... wrote: Can I use comfrey leaf? I have some growing. I have everything except for the oak bark. oak bark golden seal root garlic comfrey myrrh capsicum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 ---please tell us what the oak bark is for. Rica Oak bark is traditionally used to tighten up gums. Oak gall is better but very hard to get. (You basically have to hack it off the bark of tree with an ax!). White oak bark will do almost as well and is easier to find. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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