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Typical school was never an option for us... is in a small special

education program... not mainstreamed... and it was the best thing we ever did.

He gets therapy there daily....and so much more...but we have IEP battles too.

Sorry things are so difficult for Micah.... by the way.....if regular school

is not working....the school system HAS TO send Micah to an outplacement that is

best suited. There are options... be tough....

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To: PMG support group <polymicrogyria >

Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 11:17:21 PM

Subject: Public Schools

Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I had

to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've had

countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to, " physically

see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and that's

completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a lot

of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that they

were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

gone through this??

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Yes. Contact the department of education. Call or email me privately.

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> Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I had

to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've had

countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to, " physically

see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and that's

completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a lot

of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that they

were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

gone through this??

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Hi,

Where do you live may I ask? Some states/counties/specific schools have better

programs and facilitators for following the IEP and cooperating and

collaborating with parents to help our unique kids find where and how they

blossom socially and educationally.

We had a horrible time in Rural West Sonoma County California but now in Santa

Cruz county, it is the best yet! We had to apply and have a hearing for an

inner-district transfer out of our last school because we just didn't have the

same educational and social principals for our son. Basically they were

practically stuck in the stone age! I had to stay focused on what i knew may

work for him, where and how he could bloom. Josh is 9, 3rd grade.

It's amazing to think that about a generation ago, most parents were encouraged

to institutionalize their kids like ours, and there most often was no public

special ed. We've come along way but the road is still long ahead, lots of work

for all of us. Stay focused, stay strong!

Best,

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Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I had

to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've had

countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to, " physically

see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and that's

completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a lot

of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that they

were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

gone through this??

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I was told that I could take Micah wherever I want. BUT, he would still have to

go to our local school for services (OT, PT, SLP and Early Intervention). Thanks

for the email! I'll look into that more.

-allison

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Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I had

to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've had

countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to, " physically

see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and that's

completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a lot

of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that they

were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

gone through this??

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That is SO true. We've lived in 5 states / 6 districts. Ohio is the only one

I've had a problem with.

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> Hi,

> Where do you live may I ask? Some states/counties/specific schools have better

programs and facilitators for following the IEP and cooperating and

collaborating with parents to help our unique kids find where and how they

blossom socially and educationally.

> We had a horrible time in Rural West Sonoma County California but now in Santa

Cruz county, it is the best yet! We had to apply and have a hearing for an

inner-district transfer out of our last school because we just didn't have the

same educational and social principals for our son. Basically they were

practically stuck in the stone age! I had to stay focused on what i knew may

work for him, where and how he could bloom. Josh is 9, 3rd grade.

> It's amazing to think that about a generation ago, most parents were

encouraged to institutionalize their kids like ours, and there most often was no

public special ed. We've come along way but the road is still long ahead, lots

of work for all of us. Stay focused, stay strong!

> Best,

>

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

>

> Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I had

to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've had

countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to, " physically

see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and that's

completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a lot

of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that they

were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

gone through this??

>

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I don't THINK that's true. We've had therapy at home, and I know that some of

the public school therapists go to after school programs (day cares and such) as

well as private schools. But, I'm not totally sure that it's required. For

summer we take Mysha to them for therapy.

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> ,

>

> I was told that I could take Micah wherever I want. BUT, he would still have

to go to our local school for services (OT, PT, SLP and Early Intervention).

Thanks for the email! I'll look into that more.

> -allison

> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

> Public Schools

>

> Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

> husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I

had

> to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've

had

> countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

> since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

> According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to,

" physically

> see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and

that's

> completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

> doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a

lot

> of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that

they

> were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

> gone through this??

>

>

> -

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That's what I was told through MRDD, Help Me Grow, and his school when we had

our transition meeting. I'm not to worried about him getting it at school

anymore since he has private OT, PT, and SLP. I would like him to have Early

Intervention still. I still have your number, so I'll be giving you a call.

Thanks.

-

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Public Schools

>

> Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

> husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I

had

> to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've

had

> countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

> since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

> According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to,

" physically

> see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and

that's

> completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

> doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a

lot

> of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that

they

> were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

> gone through this??

>

>

> -

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Hello ~

Our Son is 11 years old and has PMG the public schools (Regular Ed or Special

Ed) didn't work for him. We live in Sonoma County, CA. The School system is

paying for our son to go to a private school that is meeting his needs. Our son

was not learning at all, he did a lot of coloring and watching TV before going

to the school he is in now.. Now that he has been going to the private school

he has learned to right his name (first and last), he can sight read over 75+

words, he is slowing learning phonics, He is adding numbers.. It has taken him

almost 4 years to get what he has but we are very thankful.

Hope you find what works for your son..

Kami

" The Lord bless you and keep you;

The Lord make His face shine upon

you, And be gracious to you;

The Lord lift up His countenance upon

you, And give you peace. "

numbers 6:24

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To: PMG support group <polymicrogyria >

Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 8:17:21 PM

Subject: Public Schools

Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I had

to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've had

countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to, " physically

see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and that's

completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of his

doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a lot

of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that they

were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

gone through this??

-

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We have had issues with both our pmg and other child when it comes to school

services.

The most important thing is to document and followup every meeting with a letter

summarizing the meeting to go into the file. This way the school has to be

accountable and there is less incorrect info.

I know parents that have gone to the extent of having the letters sent via

certified mail so they would have proof the school got it. Also email can be

used this way if you can have an email sent back to you when theirs has been

opened.

slaw.com and MI Alliance has IEP information and sample letters.

We ended up enrolling our daughter in a virtual charter school so she still gets

services but it is done at home as well as her schooling. It is working for her

so far but we are still dealing with IEP situations when it comes to services

but she is learning much more through their program and it works around our

appointments.

Best of luck, it is never easy getting what is necessary for our kiddos

unfortunately.

>

> > ,

> >

> > I was told that I could take Micah wherever I want. BUT, he would still have

to go to our local school for services (OT, PT, SLP and Early Intervention).

Thanks for the email! I'll look into that more.

> > -allison

> > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

> >

> > Public Schools

> >

> > Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

> > husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I

had

> > to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've

had

> > countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2

weeks

> > since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

> > According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to,

" physically

> > see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and

that's

> > completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of

his

> > doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a

lot

> > of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that

they

> > were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

> > gone through this??

> >

> >

> > -

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Hi Everyone!  The wrightslaw.com website is an awesome resource.  Even better

are some of their books.  Here are two I got off their website:

All About IEP's

From Emotions to Advocacy, The Special Education Survival Guide

Another good book is:

Special Needs Advocacy Resource Book by Rich Weinfeld and

All these books have a lot of information about your legal rights and the

process of IEP's. 

Many states offer programs that have professional advocates accompany you to IEP

meetings to make sure the school districts are messing around.  Here in

Washington it is called PAVE.  Some universities have special ed teacher that

will also help.  If your town/county doesn't have that support, then you may be

able to hire someone.  The wrightslaw.com website has information about

professional advocates. 

It is a difficult and scary process and the school districts just don't want to

have to fork over the money for our kids with all their special requirements. 

But they have to and we have to make sure they do it.  Good luck!

Stacey

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To: polymicrogyria

Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:11:45 PM

Subject: Re: Public Schools

 

We have had issues with both our pmg and other child when it comes to school

services.

The most important thing is to document and followup every meeting with a letter

summarizing the meeting to go into the file. This way the school has to be

accountable and there is less incorrect info.

I know parents that have gone to the extent of having the letters sent via

certified mail so they would have proof the school got it. Also email can be

used this way if you can have an email sent back to you when theirs has been

opened.

slaw.com and MI Alliance has IEP information and sample letters.

We ended up enrolling our daughter in a virtual charter school so she still gets

services but it is done at home as well as her schooling. It is working for her

so far but we are still dealing with IEP situations when it comes to services

but she is learning much more through their program and it works around our

appointments.

Best of luck, it is never easy getting what is necessary for our kiddos

unfortunately.

>

> > ,

> >

> > I was told that I could take Micah wherever I want. BUT, he would still have

>to go to our local school for services (OT, PT, SLP and Early Intervention).

>Thanks for the email! I'll look into that more.

> > -allison

> > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

> >

> > Public Schools

> >

> > Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

> > husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I

>had

>

> > to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've

>had

>

> > countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

> > since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

> > According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to,

> " physically

>

> > see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and

>that's

>

> > completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of

his

>

> > doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a

>lot

>

> > of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that

>they

>

> > were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

> > gone through this??

> >

> >

> > -

> > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

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Thank you everyone for all of your replies. I did print off a packets worth of

rights from s Law. There is so much more information about IEP's, and our

rights in general, than the packet I had received from our local school

district! I'm still in the process of getting Micah's ERT form fixed and should

hear back from his school tomorrow. Thanks so much again, and good luck to you

all who are having the same difficulty as we are!

-

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Public Schools

> >

> > Has anyone ever had trouble when it came to your PMG child and school? My

> > husband and I decided to pull our son out (Micah BPP). It was so bad that I

>had

>

> > to stay with him everyday because he was getting treated differently (We've

>had

>

> > countless meetings about that issue and nothing got fixed). Its been 2 weeks

> > since we took him out and its STILL a constant battle. His IEP is all wrong.

> > According to them he knows nothing pretty much because they have to,

> " physically

>

> > see him acheive his goals " . I got his ERT form that goes with his IEP and

>that's

>

> > completely wrong too! They noted that we pulled him out because of all of

his

>

> > doctors appts. When I sopke to his EI Specialist, I told her he does have a

>lot

>

> > of appts but the school was also wasting our time. She will not state that

>they

>

> > were wasting our time because it will, " make them look bad " . Has anyone ever

> > gone through this??

> >

> >

> > -

> > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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  • 3 weeks later...

although my daughter Rowan is almost 4, (bilateral PMG) she has nursing care and

the nurse goes to preschool with her. She is in a special ed class and very high

functioning so they are going to put her in a mainstream four year old class

next year. Without the nurse there I know she wouldn't get the attention or care

she needs even though the district is great. The communication is a big factor

and when something goes wrong with her equipment it would have been simply shut

off and not dealt with.

 

I say, fight and do what you have to do to get your child what they need. I have

had so many fights with the district over IEP with my older asperger's child and

now we homeschool and he is thriving, if a bit bored at times. It isn't an

option for anyone but I'd rather have less in personal resources and a happy

child than a miserable child and stressed out parent.

 

I know that if Rowan has issues in public school I will not hesitate to

homeschool her as well. Kids learn so much, and there are so many options out

there. Don't let anyone make you accept no for an answer. Trailblazers didn't

get where we are today by laying down and saying " well, ok " . Take a stand and

good job parents for sticking up for your kids!

 

I, too, am sickened by how much kids were institutionalized years ago. My own

child would not even have survived or thrived and now she is testing years ahead

of her age level. The fights we have to do to get them the services they need

are mind boggling as well. Do not be afraid to contact your government reps as

well! That is their job, to help make sure the districts are doing theirs! The

squeaky wheel and all that. Yes, it does depend on the county. My county and

school district are marvelous. I will not move anywhere else just based on the

care my daughter is getting now. It's wonderful!!! good luck moms and dads!

 

Kesa, Rowan bilateral PMG, other issues but high functioning, and Drew aspergers

and both the loves of my life!

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