Guest guest Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Hi Thanks for your email. We have been referred for Genetic counselling and are just waiting for an appointment. I am in New Zealand so not sure bout getting into the studies you mention? But we do have good specialists here that are making sure we get tested. They have also said that nothing may come up but its worth a try. I do want to have it done just in case, as we do want to have another baby. I understand what you mean about it being genetic but not hereditary, I hope that is the case for us so that we can have another one. Did you go on to have more? Is Maureen your only child? thanks for your time. Regards Kat ________________________________ To: polymicrogyria Sent: Tue, 17 May, 2011 5:37:11 AM Subject: RE: New to Board Re: Genetic Testing. I've taken Maureen to 5 different geneticists, and so far nothing's come up on the testing. I'm curious how many people here have a syndrome diagnosis, or a " cause " for their kid's PMG? Kat, I'd recommend going to a geneticist, and having a microarray done. It may not come up with anything, but it might. If you enroll in the various studies of the doctors that people have mentioned (Dobyns, Walsh, and Sherr), they also do genetic testing. Be aware, that usually nothing comes up though. That being said, in our case, it probably is genetic, they just don't know what it is. I don't know how much you know about genetics, so forgive me if this is too simple, but even if it is genetic, that doesn't necessarily mean it's hereditary. Genetic abnormalities can arise spontaneously. In our circumstance, the doctors have agreed that they feel it probably IS genetic, even though it hasn't come up on a test, but probably not hereditary, so the the risk of it occurring again is fairly low. To: polymicrogyria From: cutekat@... Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:27:52 +0000 Subject: New to Board Hi I've replied to another post but just wanted to say hi to everyone. Our baby girl started having seizures from 11 weeks and after two weeks of extensive testing we were told she has Neural Migration Disorder. Named polymicrogria, on the left side. She suffers from daily infantile spasms and is heavily medicated. These meds help but she has daily break through spasms. At 4 months she also had a tumour removed from her cerebellem. She is now 8mths old, is yet to hold her head up on her own.. She is very vocal and with the help of an OT is now stronger on her right side. She has cortical impairment but I've been told they won't know until shes older how well she can see, but I definetly know that she can, so we are working with a visual resource teacher aswell. She is a beautiful girl and tries so hard every day. I'm interested in hearing how others are doing, especially with development. Also have other parents gone on to have more children, or had genetic testing done? Our girl is our first and we are wanting more but are scared this could happen again. Thanks for your time. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Hi Diane Thanks for your email. Is unilateral meaning its in more than one area of the brain? I am hoping genetic testing will give us some answers but I guess it may not. I've heard alot of cases of PMG they never find out why it happened. Regards Kat ________________________________ To: polymicrogyria Sent: Tue, 17 May, 2011 5:43:11 AM Subject: RE: New to Board Welcome to the group. I have 4 kids and only one with PMG. Nisha was seen by Dr. Dobyns and it was unknown cause for the PMG but said that the other kids had 5% chance of having it since it was unilateral. Diane To: polymicrogyria From: cutekat@... Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:27:52 +0000 Subject: New to Board Hi I've replied to another post but just wanted to say hi to everyone. Our baby girl started having seizures from 11 weeks and after two weeks of extensive testing we were told she has Neural Migration Disorder. Named polymicrogria, on the left side. She suffers from daily infantile spasms and is heavily medicated. These meds help but she has daily break through spasms. At 4 months she also had a tumour removed from her cerebellem. She is now 8mths old, is yet to hold her head up on her own. She is very vocal and with the help of an OT is now stronger on her right side. She has cortical impairment but I've been told they won't know until shes older how well she can see, but I definetly know that she can, so we are working with a visual resource teacher aswell. She is a beautiful girl and tries so hard every day. I'm interested in hearing how others are doing, especially with development. Also have other parents gone on to have more children, or had genetic testing done? Our girl is our first and we are wanting more but are scared this could happen again. Thanks for your time. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Hi What is ACTH? Our girl is on Epilim, Clonaz & Vigabactrim. She is 8mths and still having regular spasms. I've been told they will stop and may be replaced with other seizures as she gets older. What complex partial seizures does Ella have? Are they hard to control? Does Ella hold her head up, sit or walk? If so were these things delayed? It sounds like she is doing great at therapy. I have gotten our girl Siera into therapy and we are hoping she will gain alot of strength from it and learn to hold her head up. Do you have other children? We would like to have another one next year but are very worried this may happen again, we are on the waiting list for genetic testing but I've been told sometimes it never shows anything up. Thanks for your time. Regards Kat ________________________________ To: " polymicrogyria " <polymicrogyria > Sent: Tue, 17 May, 2011 6:45:10 AM Subject: Re: New to Board Our daughter Ella had infantile spasms too caused by PMG. She is 2 1/2 years old now, and she has been spasms-free since 6 months of age after a course of ACTH. What medications is your daughter taking? Ella went a long time without any seizures at all, but in March, she started having some complex partial seizures a few times a month that we are still trying to get under control. She goes to a full-time day treatment clinic that provides therapy on site. She graduated from PT, but is still in OT & speech. She has an increasing vocabulary, and her swallowing & self-help skills are improving all the time. She is social, charming, smart, and a handful . We are proud of her progress and hope she continues to beat the odds. Feel free to email me if you have any questions, Kat. Sincerely, -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Kat, Unilateral means the brain did not form on one side for Nisha it was her right side. This makes her motor skills weak on the left side. Nisha has about 20% of holes and smooth brain on the right edge like around her ear and frontal. It seems horrible but Nisha is developing great of course we do lots of therapy. I prefer to learn it myself and provide theraputic activities as part of our lifestyle. Nisha started with partial and partial complex seizures at 14 mos but have been controlled with meds. The doctors say that controlling seizures is the worst part of this disorder they can cause regression and learning focus problems. One thing is just do problem solving daily, ask question we are here to help. Set priorities in development and celebrate even small milestones. Most of all enjoy your baby this does not change this is your baby and you are the loving mother. Remember this is a your journey it is not a sprint! Diane New to Board Hi I've replied to another post but just wanted to say hi to everyone. Our baby girl started having seizures from 11 weeks and after two weeks of extensive testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Kat, ACTH is a hormone shot that is given over 6-8 weeks, and it's side effects are like high dose steroids. It was just approved by the FDA here in the US for use in infantile spasms recently but has been used to treat them for over 50 years with success. It was our miracle drug for Ella. After she got to a therapeutic dose, she never had another spasm, and that was almost 2 years ago now. Because of her, my husband and I have become child epilepsy advocates & are passionate about helping other parents walking a similar path. Infantile spasms can be devastating and hard to get rid of, but just because your daughter has them doesn't mean you have to accept them as the way it will always be for her. Keep looking for something that might work, and if your neurologist is unwilling to help you, get a second opinion. There are lots of options out there--ACTH, the ketogenic diet & even surgery. Dr. Chugani in Detroit is a leading expert in surgery to correct IS, and because your daughter has PMG he might be able to isolate the area that is triggering seizures (called a focus) and remove it. Ella has complex partials that cause her to lose the ability to stand on her own two feet for a short time. She falls over & and her eyes are vacant & her face is droopy. She's only had them for a couple of months, so we haven't quite found a med combo that works yet, but we will, I'm sure of it. Fortunately, they don't seem to interrupt her development at this point. Physically, Ella is walking and has met all her milestones up to that point--though she was delayed in meeting them. She only just started walking at 17 months. She had begun to roll over when her spasms began at 5 months & she lost that ability for a while. The worst part about IS is that the brain never gets a break while the hypsarrhythmia pattern of IS is present, so development is not able to happen. The IS must be eradicated to give our children the best chance to develop. About genetic testing, we never really considered it since the doctors felt like Ella's one-sided PMG was just a fluke of development (rather than bilateral which more often has a hereditary link). She is our youngest child of three right now, but I am pregnant with our forth & it is something I've been concerned about for sure. I trust God will carry us through no matter what, and I believe that all children are a blessing. Have you found the infantile spasms group on Yahoo? It's a great group of people & they share lots of info together. Also, if you're on facebook there are a couple of IS groups on there too. I'm so glad to have these online communities of support. All my best, Hi What is ACTH? Our girl is on Epilim, Clonaz & Vigabactrim. She is 8mths and still having regular spasms. I've been told they will stop and may be replaced with other seizures as she gets older. What complex partial seizures does Ella have? Are they hard to control? Does Ella hold her head up, sit or walk? If so were these things delayed? It sounds like she is doing great at therapy. I have gotten our girl Siera into therapy and we are hoping she will gain alot of strength from it and learn to hold her head up. Do you have other children? We would like to have another one next year but are very worried this may happen again, we are on the waiting list for genetic testing but I've been told sometimes it never shows anything up. Thanks for your time. Regards Kat -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hi Thanks so much for your reply. We saw the Neuro Team yesterday at Starship childrens hospital, they are very good. I mentioned the ACTH treatment and they agreed its an option and we are going to look into in this month. We have given Siera a course of steriods already back in Feb, it stopped her spams completely but as soon as she cam off them they came back. We looked into the Keto diet but she was to young for the formula mix. She has not yet started solids, we are hoping to do that this week. It sounds like Ella is doing very well, you must be very proud of her. We have booked Siera in to therapy at a clinic staring this week and she has had an OT coming to the house. We are altering her meds regulary hoping to find something that works, I am working closely with the Neuro team on this and am suggesting anything I can find or that is recommended from other parents. My partner and I are wanting to try for our next baby next year, we are of course worried but feel as along as we get regular scans and are monitored closely that its worth the risk. Our baby girl is a gift and I really want her to have a sibling. Good luck with your pregnancy, are they doing any testing for you as you get through the weeks? Keen to keep in touch to see how you are. Take care and thanks again. Kat > > Kat, > > ACTH is a hormone shot that is given over 6-8 weeks, and it's side effects are like high dose steroids. It was just approved by the FDA here in the US for use in infantile spasms recently but has been used to treat them for over 50 years with success. > > It was our miracle drug for Ella. After she got to a therapeutic dose, she never had another spasm, and that was almost 2 years ago now. > > Because of her, my husband and I have become child epilepsy advocates & are passionate about helping other parents walking a similar path. > > Infantile spasms can be devastating and hard to get rid of, but just because your daughter has them doesn't mean you have to accept them as the way it will always be for her. Keep looking for something that might work, and if your neurologist is unwilling to help you, get a second opinion. There are lots of options out there--ACTH, the ketogenic diet & even surgery. Dr. Chugani in Detroit is a leading expert in surgery to correct IS, and because your daughter has PMG he might be able to isolate the area that is triggering seizures (called a focus) and remove it. > > Ella has complex partials that cause her to lose the ability to stand on her own two feet for a short time. She falls over & and her eyes are vacant & her face is droopy. She's only had them for a couple of months, so we haven't quite found a med combo that works yet, but we will, I'm sure of it. Fortunately, they don't seem to interrupt her development at this point. > > Physically, Ella is walking and has met all her milestones up to that point--though she was delayed in meeting them. She only just started walking at 17 months. She had begun to roll over when her spasms began at 5 months & she lost that ability for a while. The worst part about IS is that the brain never gets a break while the hypsarrhythmia pattern of IS is present, so development is not able to happen. The IS must be eradicated to give our children the best chance to develop. > > About genetic testing, we never really considered it since the doctors felt like Ella's one-sided PMG was just a fluke of development (rather than bilateral which more often has a hereditary link). She is our youngest child of three right now, but I am pregnant with our forth & it is something I've been concerned about for sure. I trust God will carry us through no matter what, and I believe that all children are a blessing. > > Have you found the infantile spasms group on Yahoo? It's a great group of people & they share lots of info together. Also, if you're on facebook there are a couple of IS groups on there too. I'm so glad to have these online communities of support. > > All my best, > > > Hi > > What is ACTH? Our girl is on Epilim, Clonaz & Vigabactrim. She is 8mths and > still having regular spasms. I've been told they will stop and may be replaced > with other seizures as she gets older. What complex partial seizures does Ella > have? Are they hard to control? > > Does Ella hold her head up, sit or walk? If so were these things delayed? It > sounds like she is doing great at therapy. I have gotten our girl Siera into > therapy and we are hoping she will gain alot of strength from it and learn to > hold her head up. > > Do you have other children? We would like to have another one next year but are > very worried this may happen again, we are on the waiting list for genetic > testing but I've been told sometimes it never shows anything up. > > Thanks for your time. > > Regards > Kat > > -- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hi Diane Thanks for your email, you are very wise. I agree about enjoying our babies for what they are. My girl is a gift for sure and I treasure her so. We are hoping to try for another baby next year, I'm very worried about the whole process but I have take a leap of faith and do it. Siera had a follow up MRI two days ago, they have confirmed she has left sided PMG and irregular shaped ventricles. She starts therapy at a clinic this week but until now we have an an OT coming to the house and I also take her through her exercises several times a day. Sounds like Nisha is doing very well and that you are a dedicated Mum! Thanks for the support, look forward to keeping in touch. Cheers Kat ________________________________ To: " polymicrogyria " <polymicrogyria > Sent: Wed, 18 May, 2011 12:24:12 AM Subject: Re: New to Board Kat, Unilateral means the brain did not form on one side for Nisha it was her right side. This makes her motor skills weak on the left side. Nisha has about 20% of holes and smooth brain on the right edge like around her ear and frontal. It seems horrible but Nisha is developing great of course we do lots of therapy. I prefer to learn it myself and provide theraputic activities as part of our lifestyle. Nisha started with partial and partial complex seizures at 14 mos but have been controlled with meds. The doctors say that controlling seizures is the worst part of this disorder they can cause regression and learning focus problems. One thing is just do problem solving daily, ask question we are here to help. Set priorities in development and celebrate even small milestones. Most of all enjoy your baby this does not change this is your baby and you are the loving mother. Remember this is a your journey it is not a sprint! Diane New to Board Hi I've replied to another post but just wanted to say hi to everyone. Our baby girl started having seizures from 11 weeks and after two weeks of extensive testing ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hi Thanks for your email. We are getting the testing done but have been told it may not show up anything. I am keen to have another baby anyway, the Neuro team have told us they think its just bad luck, not genetic and the chances of it happening again are low. They said I would have a high risk pregnancy that would be monitored, so I guess extra scans etc.. How old is your girl? How is she doing overall. Do you have other children. Nice talking with you. Thanks Kat ________________________________ To: polymicrogyria Sent: Tue, 17 May, 2011 5:37:11 AM Subject: RE: New to Board Re: Genetic Testing. I've taken Maureen to 5 different geneticists, and so far nothing's come up on the testing. I'm curious how many people here have a syndrome diagnosis, or a " cause " for their kid's PMG? Kat, I'd recommend going to a geneticist, and having a microarray done. It may not come up with anything, but it might. If you enroll in the various studies of the doctors that people have mentioned (Dobyns, Walsh, and Sherr), they also do genetic testing. Be aware, that usually nothing comes up though. That being said, in our case, it probably is genetic, they just don't know what it is. I don't know how much you know about genetics, so forgive me if this is too simple, but even if it is genetic, that doesn't necessarily mean it's hereditary. Genetic abnormalities can arise spontaneously. In our circumstance, the doctors have agreed that they feel it probably IS genetic, even though it hasn't come up on a test, but probably not hereditary, so the the risk of it occurring again is fairly low. To: polymicrogyria From: cutekat@... Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:27:52 +0000 Subject: New to Board Hi I've replied to another post but just wanted to say hi to everyone. Our baby girl started having seizures from 11 weeks and after two weeks of extensive testing we were told she has Neural Migration Disorder. Named polymicrogria, on the left side. She suffers from daily infantile spasms and is heavily medicated. These meds help but she has daily break through spasms. At 4 months she also had a tumour removed from her cerebellem. She is now 8mths old, is yet to hold her head up on her own. She is very vocal and with the help of an OT is now stronger on her right side. She has cortical impairment but I've been told they won't know until shes older how well she can see, but I definetly know that she can, so we are working with a visual resource teacher aswell. She is a beautiful girl and tries so hard every day. I'm interested in hearing how others are doing, especially with development. Also have other parents gone on to have more children, or had genetic testing done? Our girl is our first and we are wanting more but are scared this could happen again. Thanks for your time. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Dear Kat, You're welcome! I hope you will have success with ACTH. I'm glad your neuro is familiar with it. If you have any trouble getting the medication, please email me directly mdaniel78 [at] gmail [dot] com. I can give you the contact information of the associate director of specialty distribution at Questcor who can probably assist you. I'm not certain how it works outside of the US, but I imagine they have dealt with that before. Best wishes, " Thank you for your email - it helped alot Posted by: " Kat Reid " cutekat@... cutekat@... Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:39 am (PDT) Hi i just wanted to thank you for sharing your info with me. You mentioned the ACTH treatment.... we saw the neuro team 3 weeks ago and I mentioned it to the lead neuro doc and she agreed to give it a go, as she has worked in USA she knew all about it and has arranged to try Siera on it starting next week. I'm not going to get my hopes up but if it helps at all I will be very happy. How is Ella doing? Cheers Kat " -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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