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Diane-

Our son had these, and still does but fewer of them. At one point the

neuro was going to prescribe risperdal (which we didn't want to try)

but the attacks lessened. New psychopharmacologist suspects these

could be seizures (I've heard this elsewhere). Was he coming off

prednisone by any chance?

Beverly

On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:47 PM, goincrazyblue wrote:

> I was wondering if anybody has experienced these fits too. I have a 12

> yr old moderate to severe ,non verbal autistic son. He has always been

> a pretty easy going kid. Since April, he has been having

> these " attacks " out of the blue. There is no common thread that we can

> tell. It can happen at school, at home or on the bus. They come and go

> at all times of the day and night. He can be very happy one minute and

> flying off the handle the next. He starts throwing things and if we

> try to console him or hug him, he gets very violent with us too. It's

> so heartwrenching to see him go through this. I have a long history

> with panic attacks so I was wondering if that might be it. I give him

> one of my xanox pills (only half dose) when he has a bad one and

> within 15-20 minutes he's happy and laughing again.

> We have made an appt. with a child pyschiatrist on Aug. 10. but when

> this is going on day after day, that seems like ten years from now.

> Any advice or experience with this would be GREATLY appreciated.

> Thanks, Diane

>

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Hello Diane,

Have you had your son's allergies tested?

If you keep a diary of foods and other recurring things(benzene etc) you could

find he is reacting to it.The fact that he's normally easy going and these are

atypical " fits " makes me suspect allergy.

ASD kids are super sensitive.My son is on CF/CF/Soy free (also corn,

metabisulphites, dog,dust mite cause him brain fog, sleeplessness etc).

You could get Doris Rapp MD's book " Is This Your Child? " and see if the

allergic " fits " she describes sound familiar.

cheers

kerrie

goincrazyblue <goincrazyblue@...> wrote:

I was wondering if anybody has experienced these fits too. I have a 12

yr old moderate to severe ,non verbal autistic son. He has always been

a pretty easy going kid. Since April, he has been having

these " attacks " out of the blue. There is no common thread that we can

tell. It can happen at school, at home or on the bus. They come and go

at all times of the day and night. He can be very happy one minute and

flying off the handle the next. He starts throwing things and if we

try to console him or hug him, he gets very violent with us too. It's

so heartwrenching to see him go through this. I have a long history

with panic attacks so I was wondering if that might be it. I give him

one of my xanox pills (only half dose) when he has a bad one and

within 15-20 minutes he's happy and laughing again.

We have made an appt. with a child pyschiatrist on Aug. 10. but when

this is going on day after day, that seems like ten years from now.

Any advice or experience with this would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks, Diane

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Before my son (15now) was on the protocol, he had complex partial seizures that

presented as rage attacks out of the blue. He would be like a wild animal all

of a sudden. They would last for 2 to 10 minutes and sometimes he would fall

asleep or get very quiet and groggy afterward.

He was on depakote when we began seeing Dr. G that controlled them well. Once

we got his high HHV6 titers down(took 2 yrs) with valtrex and famvir, we were

able to wean him off the depakote.

I would talk with Dr. G about this or get an EEG done.

My heart goes out to you. It is difficult to watch and live with.

HTH,

Ellen

Having angry fits

I was wondering if anybody has experienced these fits too. I have a 12

yr old moderate to severe ,non verbal autistic son. He has always been

a pretty easy going kid. Since April, he has been having

these " attacks " out of the blue. There is no common thread that we can

tell. It can happen at school, at home or on the bus. They come and go

at all times of the day and night. He can be very happy one minute and

flying off the handle the next. He starts throwing things and if we

try to console him or hug him, he gets very violent with us too. It's

so heartwrenching to see him go through this. I have a long history

with panic attacks so I was wondering if that might be it. I give him

one of my xanox pills (only half dose) when he has a bad one and

within 15-20 minutes he's happy and laughing again.

We have made an appt. with a child pyschiatrist on Aug. 10. but when

this is going on day after day, that seems like ten years from now.

Any advice or experience with this would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks, Diane

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My 11yo son takes one half of one mg. of risperdal

before bedtime( we cut them in half.) His meltdowns

are few and far between. It lessens the aggression

overstimulation and big meltdowns. His are triggered

by an event or misfortune though.... He has been on it

for over two years, either that, or he is maturing and

growing out of it.

Take care and wish you the best,

Shenko

--- Beverly <bevanderson@...> wrote:

> Diane-

>

> Our son had these, and still does but fewer of them.

> At one point the

> neuro was going to prescribe risperdal (which we

> didn't want to try)

> but the attacks lessened. New psychopharmacologist

> suspects these

> could be seizures (I've heard this elsewhere). Was

> he coming off

> prednisone by any chance?

>

> Beverly

>

> On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:47 PM, goincrazyblue wrote:

>

> > I was wondering if anybody has experienced these

> fits too. I have a 12

> > yr old moderate to severe ,non verbal autistic

> son. He has always been

> > a pretty easy going kid. Since April, he has been

> having

> > these " attacks " out of the blue. There is no

> common thread that we can

> > tell. It can happen at school, at home or on the

> bus. They come and go

> > at all times of the day and night. He can be very

> happy one minute and

> > flying off the handle the next. He starts throwing

> things and if we

> > try to console him or hug him, he gets very

> violent with us too. It's

> > so heartwrenching to see him go through this. I

> have a long history

> > with panic attacks so I was wondering if that

> might be it. I give him

> > one of my xanox pills (only half dose) when he has

> a bad one and

> > within 15-20 minutes he's happy and laughing

> again.

> > We have made an appt. with a child pyschiatrist on

> Aug. 10. but when

> > this is going on day after day, that seems like

> ten years from now.

> > Any advice or experience with this would be

> GREATLY appreciated.

> > Thanks, Diane

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

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I 2nd this reply.

While medications can be necessary e a good thing in certain cases, its

still only a band aid on a gapping wound - a temporary fix. However the

underlying problem persists.

Your description of your child exactly describes mine, now 14 yrs old.

We found that these aggressive fits were directly related to his food

sensitivities and seasonal allergies. Combined with an inability to

communicate, it's a recipe for aggression.

I suggest getting a good work up which includes a blood test for

specific food sensitivities. Also, importantly, eliminating sources of

potential indoor allergies such as carpets, animal dander etc. (You can

get hypoallergenic bedding and air conditioning filters, etc - take out

that carpet from his room too). If you live in a place where seasonal

pollens and or molds are problematic, this can be a big contributor as

well - even if the food sensitivities are addressed. You need to address

the issue from all sides.

The seasonal allergies were addressed by a Chinese herbalist. While not

for everyone it dramatically reduced his seasonal allergies and

therefore his aggression which is 99% better.

Ray

Re: Having angry fits

Hello Diane,

Have you had your son's allergies tested?

If you keep a diary of foods and other recurring things(benzene etc)

you could find he is reacting to it.The fact that he's normally easy

going and these are atypical " fits " makes me suspect allergy.

ASD kids are super sensitive.My son is on CF/CF/Soy free (also corn,

metabisulphites, dog,dust mite cause him brain fog, sleeplessness etc).

You could get Doris Rapp MD's book " Is This Your Child? " and see if

the allergic " fits " she describes sound familiar.

cheers

kerrie

goincrazyblue <goincrazyblue@...> wrote:

I was wondering if anybody has experienced these fits too. I

have a 12

yr old moderate to severe ,non verbal autistic son. He has always been

a pretty easy going kid. Since April, he has been having

these " attacks " out of the blue. There is no common thread that we can

tell. It can happen at school, at home or on the bus. They come and go

at all times of the day and night. He can be very happy one minute and

flying off the handle the next. He starts throwing things and if we

try to console him or hug him, he gets very violent with us too. It's

so heartwrenching to see him go through this. I have a long history

with panic attacks so I was wondering if that might be it. I give him

one of my xanox pills (only half dose) when he has a bad one and

within 15-20 minutes he's happy and laughing again.

We have made an appt. with a child pyschiatrist on Aug. 10. but when

this is going on day after day, that seems like ten years from now.

Any advice or experience with this would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks, Diane

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I have noticed that my son HAS to get good " quality "

sleep and over 8 hours or he's totally off for the day

and very angry. You must leave him alone or walk on

egg shells.

Shenko

--- " Palmer, F " <palmerr@...> wrote:

> I 2nd this reply.

> While medications can be necessary e a good thing in

> certain cases, its

> still only a band aid on a gapping wound - a

> temporary fix. However the

> underlying problem persists.

>

> Your description of your child exactly describes

> mine, now 14 yrs old.

> We found that these aggressive fits were directly

> related to his food

> sensitivities and seasonal allergies. Combined with

> an inability to

> communicate, it's a recipe for aggression.

>

> I suggest getting a good work up which includes a

> blood test for

> specific food sensitivities. Also, importantly,

> eliminating sources of

> potential indoor allergies such as carpets, animal

> dander etc. (You can

> get hypoallergenic bedding and air conditioning

> filters, etc - take out

> that carpet from his room too). If you live in a

> place where seasonal

> pollens and or molds are problematic, this can be a

> big contributor as

> well - even if the food sensitivities are addressed.

> You need to address

> the issue from all sides.

>

> The seasonal allergies were addressed by a Chinese

> herbalist. While not

> for everyone it dramatically reduced his seasonal

> allergies and

> therefore his aggression which is 99% better.

> Ray

>

> Re: Having angry fits

>

> Hello Diane,

>

>

> Have you had your son's allergies tested?

> If you keep a diary of foods and other recurring

> things(benzene etc)

> you could find he is reacting to it.The fact that

> he's normally easy

> going and these are atypical " fits " makes me suspect

> allergy.

>

> ASD kids are super sensitive.My son is on

> CF/CF/Soy free (also corn,

> metabisulphites, dog,dust mite cause him brain fog,

> sleeplessness etc).

>

> You could get Doris Rapp MD's book " Is This Your

> Child? " and see if

> the allergic " fits " she describes sound familiar.

>

> cheers

> kerrie

>

> goincrazyblue <goincrazyblue@...> wrote:

> I was wondering if anybody has experienced

> these fits too. I

> have a 12

> yr old moderate to severe ,non verbal autistic son.

> He has always been

> a pretty easy going kid. Since April, he has been

> having

> these " attacks " out of the blue. There is no common

> thread that we can

> tell. It can happen at school, at home or on the

> bus. They come and go

> at all times of the day and night. He can be very

> happy one minute and

> flying off the handle the next. He starts throwing

> things and if we

> try to console him or hug him, he gets very violent

> with us too. It's

> so heartwrenching to see him go through this. I have

> a long history

> with panic attacks so I was wondering if that might

> be it. I give him

> one of my xanox pills (only half dose) when he has a

> bad one and

> within 15-20 minutes he's happy and laughing again.

> We have made an appt. with a child pyschiatrist on

> Aug. 10. but when

> this is going on day after day, that seems like ten

> years from now.

> Any advice or experience with this would be GREATLY

> appreciated.

> Thanks, Diane

>

>

>

>

>

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