Re: Put your thinking caps on for this one.

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.... A friend of ours tore the cushion on the bottom of the foot away from whatever it is connected to... Well, he waited 3 months before he had it checked out (pain got too much for him)... It is now infected inside.

Okie dokie..Here's a Dr. infection story that may help:

A man ran a pitchfork into his foot. He was so busy he went to work anyway. By the time he got to a doctor, his foot was so infected the doctor warned he might not even be alive another day if he didn't take care of it.

First Dr. told him to pack his foot with 5 lbs. of onions and salt as a drawing poultice for 4 hours. Then he was instructed to use comfrey and marshmallow root as a poultice. By noon the next day the swelling had completely subsided and the only soreness was where he had punctured his foot. In a case where there are no drawing herbs available, copious amounts of honey on the area will cause a drawing. You may soak the injured part in hot cayenne tea. Note: First and second year marshmallow roots are more potent than older ones.

Gloria

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I just checked my Save Your Life manual, and the verdict is in: Best infection fighting combo on the planet...Garlic and echinacea, but he's probably going to have to use a lot of it! I'd personally throw in some vitamin C, too.

Gloria

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Ok, BUT... there is no hole or opening..in the foot... the infection is literally inside.

Yeah..I realized that after I wrote that Dr. piece. I'd suggest the garlic and echinacea. Probably 3-4 droppers of each per hour and maybe soak it in the cayenne tea to get the herbs down to the foot. Or do some hot and cold therapy on the foot, too.

Gloriadsr

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wonder how using this with DMSO would work?

I don't know a thing about DMSO. I would suggest some mega doses of vitamin C, though. Preferably powder. Every hours until he gets "the runs". It's an amazing infection fighter. Dr. Schulze says garlic is the best infection fighter bar none. It kills everything! (except you!). I would crush a bunch of cloves, smoosh them up real good and put them in luke warm water and drink as much as he can. That way it will go through the whole system fast. I literally drink water heavily laden with garlic when I'm sick and it really does help.

Gloria

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Pack it with cayenne, wrap it up nice and tight and leave it on all

night? (that's what I would do if it were me).

Do you have any slippery elm? That makes a great "glue" to put over an herbal poultice.. It will harden and the herbs will adhere until you scrub them off.

Gloria

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pure cayenne powder??? That could burn the foot if wrapped up couldn't it???

I would think it might. I'd try the Dr. thing of soaking the foot in hot cayenne tea. I'm not sure about leaving dry cayenne powder on all night. Ouch! Maybe even some ginger tea mixed in with it. I saw a video of the cold sheet treatment and it consists of soaking the body in all these really potent herbs mixed into very hot water and it brings all the poisons to the surface. You might want to do a mini-cold sheet treatment on his foot only. Then smear the foot with the garlic-oil rub, put on a sock and keep it on all night.

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I'm sending him a mix of echinacea plus with some total tonic in it to start taking. The oil has to sit a day. I will add DMSO to it when I strain it tomorrow... I'm going to start there. And I think have him do some epsom salt soaks

It's all good stuff, but not sure the epsom salts will do much if there is no drainage. The infection has to get out of his foot. He can't afford to have it get into his blood stream. I'd also tell him to drink tons of water.

Gloria

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but if epsom salt baths pull the toxins out of the body............can't hurt...

Suzi

I was just reading Dr. . He says one of the best to pull toxins out is cayenne ointment. Have you ever made an ointiment? He has directions in his book. You need oil and some beeswax.

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what about adding some clays to the poultice? Especially bentonite that draws out toxins?

Then he was instructed to use comfrey and marshmallow root as a poultice.

Becky I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.

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I am sure that others will be better equiped to answer...especially about the bottom of the foot. But when I had an infection...after surgery on my pancreas...they sliced it open and just used gauze soaked with normal saline, covered in more gauze. I would think you could use that fuzzy gauze wrap to overwrap the bandaging with. Can't think what it is called. It's 4" wide and comes in long rolls.

I would try to find cotton gauze, rather than use the newer rayon blends.

Ginko, niacin (NOT niacinamide) and magnesium for the circulation to the foot and lots of zinc for healing. Would also suggest sodium ascorbate to tolerence. Work up to 10 Grams a day. He's prolly NOT a supplement taker..so start with 100 mg of niacin 3 times a day and warn him about the flush. Take it directly AFTER each meal.Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Ok gang... got a problem to solve... A friend of ours tore the cushion on the bottom of the foot away from whatever it is connected to... Well, he waited 3 months before he had it checked out (pain got too much for him)... It is now infected inside. The only way to treat it is either cut it open and clean it out... which he wasn't cool on OR take these little green antibiotics which apparently aren't doing anything except making him go green... lol

I gave him some deep tissue repair oil to use.. I did not know it was infected till now.. I need some help here... first to clear up the infection.. second to heal the cushion and relieve the pain. It does NOT swell up either.

I am thinking about super tonic, adding some dmso and having him apply it cause I'm not sure the DTRO will cure the infection.

Don't talk diet on this one cause I don't think it will happen.. the bright side of this is my DH told me to call him cause he's in alot of pain and "AUNTY EM" could help... rofl..

You know the wizard of oz and Auntie EM... Now the DH doesn't do all the herbs but he must think I can help... very cool... so let's start thinking here...

Suzi

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You just gave me an idea... make an infusion in olive oil to rub on the foot.. and then take it internally also.MorningGlory113@... wrote:

Ok, BUT... there is no hole or opening..in the foot... the infection is literally inside.Yeah..I realized that after I wrote that Dr. piece. I'd suggest the garlic and echinacea. Probably 3-4 droppers of each per hour and maybe soak it in the cayenne tea to get the herbs down to the foot. Or do some hot and cold therapy on the foot, too. Gloriadsr

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Ok, what is going to be our amount of cayenne for cayenne tea to soak the foot in?MorningGlory113@... wrote:

Ok, BUT... there is no hole or opening..in the foot... the infection is literally inside.Yeah..I realized that after I wrote that Dr. piece. I'd suggest the garlic and echinacea. Probably 3-4 droppers of each per hour and maybe soak it in the cayenne tea to get the herbs down to the foot. Or do some hot and cold therapy on the foot, too. Gloriadsr

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oop.. ONLY the powdered type works btw.

Here is a super simple 'cure' that I witnessed do wonders in the nursing home I worked at ( used on diabetics feet) and also with the Vet for infection in animals-

Soak the foot at least twice a day in a warm foot bath of Dreft baby laundry detergent. I don't know why, or how this works, but it works! You could add any other treatment to this after the food dried. :-)

Carol in IL doihavtasay@...Mom to 7 blessings including , 3 with DS and Grandma to Micah and Jonah.

" My problem isn't how I look, is how you see me." "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain." Psalm 127

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Probably not like you would imagine it to. If I can put it up

inside my nose (don't ask) stuff a cotton ball up there, tape it in

and leave it all night I'm sure putting it on severed nerves in

thick heel tissue won't be that bad.

Seriously,

Pam

> pure cayenne powder??? That could burn the foot if wrapped up

couldn't it???

>

> pam <peetee1965@h...> wrote:Pack it with cayenne, wrap it up nice

and tight and leave it on all

> night? (that's what I would do if it were me).

> Pam

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i do.. but I'm still concerned with burning the foot...

I've got olive oil soaking crushed garlic, some cayenne and a bit of super tonic in it..as we write..

I'm sending him a mix of echinacea plus with some total tonic in it to start taking. The oil has to sit a day. I will add DMSO to it when I strain it tomorrow... I'm going to start there. And I think have him do some epsom salt soaks...

SuziMorningGlory113@... wrote:

Pack it with cayenne, wrap it up nice and tight and leave it on all night? (that's what I would do if it were me).Do you have any slippery elm? That makes a great "glue" to put over an herbal poultice.. It will harden and the herbs will adhere until you scrub them off.Gloria

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yep... works on colds, etc.MorningGlory113@... wrote:

make an infusion in olive oil to rub on the footOf garlic?Gloria

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But again, there is no wound... this is all internal underneath the skin... no breaks, tears etc on the surface.doihavtasay <doihavtasay@...> wrote:

Oh.. and not to be redundant.. Emu oil is well known for healing those hard to heal wounds too.

I have only used it on one would infection here, and it did work really fast, but it wasn't anything like this man's foot.

Carol in IL doihavtasay@...Mom to 7 blessings including , 3 with DS and Grandma to Micah and Jonah.

" My problem isn't how I look, is how you see me." "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain." Psalm 127

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I believe so.. that will be tomorrow's project...

SuziMorningGlory113@... wrote:

Internal and external infection: Do you have these???3 parts chapparal3 parts echinacea1 part marshmallow root1/4 part cayenneFill "00" gelatin capsules and take 2 caps every 2 hours.

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According to Dr. R. , N.D., M.H., " School of Natural

Healing: The Reference Volume on Herbal Therapy for the Teacher,

Student or Practitioner " , 20th Anniversary Edition, pg.447-454, 1996:

" Wounds: Even with severe wounds, so deep that they may be exposed

to the bone, you can fill them with cayenne pepper (and if cayenne

is not available, black pepper) to stop the bleeding and bring quick

healing. Many people, when they see the skin reddened by the

cayenne, believe that the skin is irritated; but cayenne is a

counter-irritant; There is no itching involved with it. Cayenne

actually brings the blood to the surface to take away any toxic

poisons, or to start the healing; so the redness comes to the skin

from the blood that has rushed to the surface to carry off wastes. "

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--- In health , MorningGlory113@a...

wrote:

>

>

> > Ok, what is going to be our amount of cayenne for cayenne tea to

soak the

> > foot

> >

> > I am still checking. Ditch the cayenne powder on the foot thing.

> > says it can cause blistering on the skin if applied

directly and it's not

> > recommended. I think the tea might be ok, but not the straight

powder.

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Suzanne wrote:

> Ok gang... got a problem to solve... A friend of ours tore the cushion

> on the bottom of the foot away from whatever it is connected to...

> Well, he waited 3 months before he had it checked out (pain got too

> much for him)... It is now infected inside. The only way to treat it

> is either cut it open and clean it out... which he wasn't cool on OR

> take these little green antibiotics which apparently aren't doing

> anything except making him go green... lol

> I gave him some deep tissue repair oil to use.. I did not know it was

> infected till now.. I need some help here... first to clear up the

> infection.. second to heal the cushion and relieve the pain. It does

> NOT swell up either.

> I am thinking about super tonic, adding some dmso and having him apply

> it cause I'm not sure the DTRO will cure the infection.

> Don't talk diet on this one cause I don't think it will happen.. the

> bright side of this is my DH told me to call him cause he's in alot of

> pain and " AUNTY EM " could help... rofl..

> You know the wizard of oz and Auntie EM... Now the DH doesn't do all

> the herbs but he must think I can help... very cool... so let's start

> thinking here...

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Make a poultice out of equal parts of Red Clover, Bentonite, Slipper Elm

Bark Powder, and then 1/2 part of Chaparral, 1/4 part Poke root, 1/8

part Golden Seal root Powder and 1/4 part Activate Charcoal powder. Mix

into a paste by adding a heaping tablespoon of above mixture with a

dropperful of Tea Tree, DMSO and a teaspoon of ACV, apply and bandage.

Change twice daily. When the infection goes away switch to using BF & C

powder made into a paste or as an ointment.

Realize that the reason there is an infection, is because the WBC are

doing what they are supposed to do which is damage control. They are

removing dead tissue so that new tissue can be placed down. They clean

up the damage so that the body can properly heal itself. This is a good

thing but can get rather nerve wracking with the pain especially if one

isn't prone to staying prone for that long and dealing with the pain. He

might even try soaking in hot tea. Very strong hot black tea. A lot of

hot and cold on that foot will do wonders

Also, packing the foot in mud or just bentonite will help heal the area

after the infection is gone. Epsom salt soaks will help as will the

garlic, cayenne. All the above will assist.

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Don Quai

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and wakes in man. "

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Marshmallow root also works on infections with no opening. I have a friend with diabetes who was in danger of having her leg amputated. She started aoking it in marshmallow, and her problem has cleared up.

Terri Lynne

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From: Suzanne

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Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:32 PM

Subject: RE: Put your thinking caps on for this one.

Carol,

It pulls out the infection when there is no opening???

This is interesting.doihavtasay <doihavtasay@...> wrote:

Here is a super simple 'cure' that I witnessed do wonders in the nursing home I worked at ( used on diabetics feet) and also with the Vet for infection in animals-

Soak the foot at least twice a day in a warm foot bath of Dreft baby laundry detergent. I don't know why, or how this works, but it works! You could add any other treatment to this after the food dried. :-)

Carol in IL doihavtasay@...Mom to 7 blessings including , 3 with DS and Grandma to Micah and Jonah.

" My problem isn't how I look, is how you see me." "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain." Psalm 127

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I wouldn't lance it. Just use good drawing herbs. And what about taking golden seal orally? I had a friend with a staff infection in his bones, and the doctors were despairing of him. But golden seal worked for him.

Terri Lynne

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From: doihavtasay

health

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:09 PM

Subject: RE: Put your thinking caps on for this one.

I think he needs to have that lanced? Let the infection drain out etc and keep it open so it can heal.

Course he could lance it himself ;-)

Carol in IL doihavtasay@...Mom to 7 blessings including , 3 with DS and Grandma to Micah and Jonah.

" My problem isn't how I look, is how you see me." "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain." Psalm 127

Ok, BUT... there is no hole or opening..in the foot... the infection is literally inside.Yeah..I realized that after I wrote that Dr. piece. I'd suggest the garlic and echinacea. Probably 3-4 droppers of each per hour and maybe soak it in the cayenne tea to get the herbs down to the foot. Or do some hot and cold therapy on the foot, too. Gloriadsr

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what about adding some clays to the poultice? Especially bentonite that draws out toxins?

Get some Vit-ra-Tox. Do you ever use it? It's main ingredient is actually bentonite. I always keep a bottle on hand. Great to clean out infections. I know someone who had an ear infection, put some in her ear that night, and the infection was gone the next day. You can get it at a health food store. They say to take 2 doses a day AM and PM, one dose diluted., For infections, I take a tbsp. per hour straight, undiluted. Drink lots of water in between. It goes through your system and sucks poisons out like a magnet.

Gloria

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Get some Vit-ra-Tox. Do you ever use it?

No - haven't heard of it. I've been doing some thinking along these lines and wondered how much you could take internally of bentonite as part of a detox.

I will look into this product - thanks!

Becky I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.

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Hi all

Just one thing about Echinacea, do not use it in conjunction with Sylimarin (Milk Thistle), they work against each other. This info comes from The British Liver Trust.

Kind regards

Jeff