Re: Just out of 5 day in hospital; Appendix Burst: Now question on Anti-Biotics!

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Hey guys!

Just a lil update; it's been a week since the surgery now. I'm doing

just fine which I'm SO grateful for.

Feeling pretty well, some cramps, but HUGE improvement-- last I saw

written was right after surgery, so things are well...

For kicks; I had what seemed to be MASSIVE swelling around my stomach,

waist, abdomen, and groin area. They told me the pain, and major

bloating was just gas and constipation in spite of telling them it was

something else.

Turns out it was a very large amount of collected IV fluid around my

middle from getting saline while sitting up.

In 4 days I went from 166 lbs. coming home from hospital after surgery,

to 4 days later 142 lbs. I had 3 gallons of water retention around my

middle!!! OUCH, lol. I looked/felt like an Umpa-Lumpa off charlie and

the chocolate factory, :-P

* related; I'm still wondering about the antibiotics. I did some

research and found they have me about at the highest end of the

antibiotic spectrum there is. A dual combination novel antibiotic at

the highest prescribed dose by the company. 1,750 MG a day.

This is DEFINATELY going to have an effect on my blood work-up I

sent into Dr. G. I'm not sure what to do now...

I plan on taking Probiotics especially when this is done. I don't know

if the strains in this High Count, Multi-Strain (by 'Custom Probiotics')

product is Ok to take until my intestine is mostly replenished, then I

can start taking the mild lower dose I normally take.

Ingredients: {One capsule; 35 Billion- L. acidophilus, L. rhamnosus, L.

plantarum, B. lactis, B. bifidum.}

I don't want to make a big mistake after such a large dose of

anti-biotics. I'm also curious how long I should take this high count

for. I'll probably be taking between 75-150 Billion a day.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

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[24 year old, CA, 'jfirkins' on Dr. G chat]

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> *I have an immediate question at the end of this mess-I'd like all of

> your input>

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> It's . I'm trying to write this as clear headed as possible, so

> I'm sorry if there are some miss spellings or mistakes, I'm dizzy from

> all the meds they have me on.

> I got real sick, stomach hurting me a ton, went to the ER, had them

> check it all out... was there for several hours, they thought it was

> just bad constipation and gas after x-ray. Sent me home, laxatives,

> and some things for gas, and stool softener.

> Got home, 2 enamas (sp?), 4 coelace stool softners, 2 anal laxatives,

> soft food, many tries, then a magnesium citriate (sp?) drink/...

> didn't help.

> Went back to ER more pain, very very bad paion, in tears crying.

> Did cat scan, my appendix had ruptured a while ago they said. Bad

> infection so bad it was infected to the point of blocking off my

> intestine tract from swelling.

> Had to wait 12 hrs for surgery! No food nothing to drink for what

> totaled 4 days (at that point since I could eat the days prior

> either-and had been throwing up), didn't take psych meds for 3 1/2

> days, having withdrawl; they had me on morphine; I began to have (D)

> in my own bed <that was miserable>.

> I began to have the worst pains of my life, they had to take me to

> sugery; suddenly may pain jumped to a level haven't felt before in my

> life. Definitely a 10 on 1-10 scale, no doubt or question. I passed

> out in the chair from the pain threshold. I was screaming; I was on

> morphine during all of this; like someone with red hot firplace poker,

> shoving it in my side and underneth. Worst pain ever-

> On massive anti biotics for about 5 + days. Still unable to really go

> have a BM (now as I type). But still have a week's worth of

> antibiotics I have to take.

>

> The infection has been bad, and my whole stomach has been inflamed and

> swollen. They had to start me on antibiotics before the surgery to

> try to get a foot hold. I had about, idk, 10 maybe 12 bags of

> antibiotics, plus the pills I'm beginning to take now.

> I want to know how this works into my work? I'm on massive

> amounts of antibiotics, and I probably would have needed some anyway

> for bacterial infections; i.e.; Strep titre 413 while treating aspects

> of . (That was my blood test amount/no. for strep, 413.

>

> In a very indirect and unplanned way might this some how qualify this

> as the 'anti-biotic' spectrum of treatment when this is done? Kinda

> of 'anti-biotics, virals, anti-fungus, change in diet-planning diet

> protocol, probiotics (possibly), and maybe a antidepressant;

> protocol-- along some small tweaks here and there based upon blood

> numbers there on out?

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> That's what I'm curious about. They have me taking- Amox/K Clav

> 875MG TAB, Filled by : BRG (GENERIC FOR: AUGMENTIN 875MG TAB)

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> Might you be able to shed some light on that... I guess right now that

> is the forefront of things concerning me right now.

>

> Thank youy very much, I really appreciate this. I just wanted to

> write this then I'm off to bed again to lay down, I have staples in my

> side that still hurt with the swelling I'm sure you know.

>

>

> I need to reply to many people to let them know why they haven't heard

> from me; so I'll be doing that...

>

> But hello to group members- haven't been on reading your posts in a

> few days, just been really sick.

>

>

> Thank you! Bye for now...

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[Guest guest]

Oh interesting, with food? It seemed that all the probiotics (about

all) stress taking on empty stomach just with water.

That's interesting though. A friend recommended something that might

be a good idea I'm trying; she said to get some yogurt and take along

with probiotics; but use goat's milk yogurt just for a little while,

it out to help. I think it's probably a pretty good idea. I don't

normally drink goat's milk, but I figured it's much better than

regular dairy.

Thanks for tips!

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> > * related; I'm still wondering about the

> > antibiotics. I did some

> > research and found they have me about at the highest

> > end of the

> > antibiotic spectrum there is.

> >

> > This is DEFINATELY going to have an effect on my

> > blood work-up I

> > sent into Dr. G. I'm not sure what to do now...

>

> ***** Don't worry about it one bit. There is nothing

> that will affect treatment regarding changes to your

> labs. Any labs needing to be re-done would be redone

> at your visit or soon after anyway. What it will

> affect is how you feel right now, not over the

> long-term. I promise you need to do nothing re labs

> done prior to your illness. Besides, some time needs

> to pass for you to fully recover and get back on your

> feet before you can effectively assess where you

> stand. Relieving the stress of what impact this has

> on your future treatment will be one step towards

> getting better.

>

> >

> > I plan on taking Probiotics especially when this is

> > done. I don't know

> > if the strains in this High Count, Multi-Strain (by

> > 'Custom Probiotics')

> > product is Ok to take until my intestine is mostly

> > replenished, then I

> > can start taking the mild lower dose I normally

> > take.

> >

> > Ingredients: {One capsule; 35 Billion- L.

> > acidophilus, L. rhamnosus, L.

> > plantarum, B. lactis, B. bifidum.}

> ***** L.Rhamnosus is going to increase your anxiety

> and creepy-crawly sensations. I wouldn't take it. It

> will stimulate a chemokine related to the TH1 response

> which you don't really want to happen when OCD or

> anxiety or restless leg-type symptoms are present.

> Add that to yeast you no doubt will have for a little

> while (and that can normalize) , and you'll feel

> nasty. Won't necessarily hurt you long term, but make

> you feel rotten.

>

> >

> > I don't want to make a big mistake after such a

> > large dose of

> > anti-biotics. I'm also curious how long I should

> > take this high count

> > for. I'll probably be taking between 75-150 Billion

> > a day.

> ****** I wouldn't. I'd stick to the standard doses

> and make sure you get them 3 times a day, and eat

> foods that feed bacteria well like apples, salad,

> cultured meats like salami, easy to diget veggies like

> squash and zucchini but avoid difficult to digest like

> broccoli and cabbage. (I think kimchi and saurkraut

> would be ok though 'cause they're broken down some by

> lactic acid processes.) Bone broths (think chicken

> soup made from homemade chicken where you've boiled

> the bones a long time) would have a healing effect

> too. Gelatin is helpful for healing the gut as well,

> and a good bone broth contains gelatin - that stuff

> that makes it wiggly when it cools off. I'd recommend

> focusing on that than very high doses of probiotics,

> but don't skip them, always eat them with food, and

> take them 2 hours after antibiotics.

> >

> >

> > Any suggestions? Thanks!

> >

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> HTH-

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[Guest guest]

<question I'm curious about at the end of this>

That is a very good and clever idea Caroline. I did try some of the

goat milk. Unfortunately around or a day after I noticed that I was

getting more sick, fever, nausea, pain, headache, gut pains, feeling

of wanting to vomit; I ended up going the to the doc then ER.

They said they found a large infected abscess after the CT scan that

the antibiotics didn't get rid of- so I had to stay in the hospital

another 3 days and they had to insert a catheter into my abdomen with

a bottle at the end that I have to empty.

It hurts; and was a lil scary. The part I dislike the most is I still

have sharp pains other places and they said they hope the oral

antibiotics will take care of the other places of bacteria they found-

but if they don't they too will have to be drained. <cross fingers>

I hope things heal up, but I tried asking if this might not be someone

what do a compromised immune system.

I know this is going to have a large effect on my body, my fungi

levels, viral levels, everything; being that it has turned into such a

significant situation.

Anyone have any comments info on how that might effect the body;

whether it might cause an uprise in viruses, or autoimmune problems,

etc? That way I know what to partly expect?

Love to hear from any and all of you, thanks!!!!

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> If you don't like the " goat " yogurt, try freezing it... it deadens the

> " goat " taste and it's more palatable to those who don't love that

flavor.

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> You can fill a dixie cup with it, then insert a popsicle stick or a

plastic

> spoon and freeze. Just don't bite the spoon. You can cover the cup

with

> some saran wrap, put a slit in it for the stick or spoon handle to

pop up

> through to hold it in place until it sets.

>

> Good luck!

>

> Caroline

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